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>So the question I have is how

> do you get it taken out. Do I have to organize some great political

> campaign or will a petition do??

>>If you contact Yiamouyiannis he can give advise. He does many court

cases.

He runs Health Action Press, I did have his contact details somewhere--it

was 6439 Taggart Rd, Delaware, Ohio 43015. Tel 614 548 5340 Fax ----0388.

<<

Can he help me out in Ontario, Canada though??

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Re: Fluoride

> >So the question I have is how

> > do you get it taken out. Do I have to organize some great political

> > campaign or will a petition do??

>

> >>If you contact Yiamouyiannis he can give advise. He does many court

> cases.

> He runs Health Action Press, I did have his contact details somewhere--it

> was 6439 Taggart Rd, Delaware, Ohio 43015. Tel 614 548 5340 Fax ----0388.

>

> <<

>

> Can he help me out in Ontario, Canada though??

>

>

>

He came over here, UK, and appeared in court to get fluoride taken out of

some districts water. The main anti-fluoride man. Travels all over the

world speaking against fluoride, so I would say he would be useful, although

I did see he has/had colon cancer recently.

john

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> He came over here, UK, and appeared in court to get fluoride taken

out of

> some districts water. The main anti-fluoride man. Travels all over

the

> world speaking against fluoride, so I would say he would be useful,

although

> I did see he has/had colon cancer recently.

>

> john

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<Duh, because fluoride is 30 times more toxic than lead?

Aren't there enough websites that can give you more reasons? How much is

enough to convince you?>

,

DUH, I'm a newbie to this list. Duh. I didn't KNOW about fluoride and its

toxicity and that's why I asked the question because DUH, I knew this list

would have knowledge and would help me.

As a parent of kids with disabilities, I don't have time just to surf the

web, and sometimes I don't think of how to find information because I'm so

tired. So sorry to have inconvenienced you, . Be nice to me.

Karla in Indiana

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In a message dated 8/10/00 8:58:46 AM Central Daylight Time,

selahdream@... writes:

<< So sorry to have inconvenienced you, . Be nice to me.

Karla in Indiana

>>

Amen, Karla. For some of us, the sarcasm is enough to delete posts rather

spend precious moments sorting through them. I don't get on the puter to

" play " . I have very little time, and many many things to research (including

my son's disability).

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In a message dated 8/9/00 10:14:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

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Okay, do I let my kids have the weekly school fluoride treatment or not? >>

they do that in schools? I wonder if it is done here in ohio. That is

terrible.

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--- selahdream@... wrote:

> <Duh, because fluoride is 30 times more toxic than

> lead?

> Aren't there enough websites that can give you more

> reasons? How much is

> enough to convince you?>

> ,

> DUH, I'm a newbie to this list. Duh. I didn't KNOW

> about fluoride and its

> toxicity and that's why I asked the question because

> DUH, I knew this list

> would have knowledge and would help me.

> As a parent of kids with disabilities, I don't have

> time just to surf the

> web, and sometimes I don't think of how to find

> information because I'm so

> tired. So sorry to have inconvenienced you, .

> Be nice to me.

> Karla in Indiana

>

>

No kidding!!! I thought that was quite rude too!

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Karla - Awesome response! I found myself feeling serious empathy for you

when I read that incredibly sarcastic response - as someone else fairly

new to this list, I say that no one should be made to feel dumb for

seeking answers. Keep asking questions!!! Namaste, Gretchen

On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 09:57:43 EDT selahdream@... writes:

> <Duh, because fluoride is 30 times more toxic than lead?

> Aren't there enough websites that can give you more reasons? How

> much is

> enough to convince you?>

> ,

> DUH, I'm a newbie to this list. Duh. I didn't KNOW about fluoride

> and its

> toxicity and that's why I asked the question because DUH, I knew

> this list

> would have knowledge and would help me.

> As a parent of kids with disabilities, I don't have time just to

> surf the

> web, and sometimes I don't think of how to find information because

> I'm so

> tired. So sorry to have inconvenienced you, . Be nice to me.

> Karla in Indiana

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I know it's supposed to be bad if it's swallowed, but even to brush with?? >>

It will initially protect the teeth,but in the long term it weakens them.

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I know it's supposed to be bad if it's swallowed, but even to brush with?? >>

It will initially protect the teeth,but in the long term it weakens them.

Sara

MY anthro doctor says it only hardens the outside but they are not strong

inside. you need other stuff for that and its a poison.

kim

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I know it's supposed to be bad if it's swallowed, but even to brush with??

Kay

Fluoride

Morning-MistDo a search on " fluoride " on this list, I know there was some

discussion awhile back. I don't have any links off-hand, I'm sure someone does,

but fluoride is a poison. I don't use it and wouldn't use it. No fluoride

toothpaste or topical applications.

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At 01:02 PM 01/15/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>Morning-MistDo a search on " fluoride " on this list, I know there was some

discussion awhile back. I don't have any links off-hand, I'm sure someone

does, but fluoride is a poison. I don't use it and wouldn't use it. No

fluoride toothpaste or topical applications.

>

>

>

>

>

See my webpages

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/fluoride.htm

>

>

>

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At 01:27 PM 01/15/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>I know it's supposed to be bad if it's swallowed, but even to brush with??

Yes, you absorb SO much through your mucus membranes of your mouth -

homeopathic remedies are just given under the tongue to be absorbed there.

In countries with contaminated water, just brushing with it can harm you.

>

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I don't want anyone in my family to have it. I buy Tom's of Maine Fluoride free

toothpaste and we do not have it in our water which is very good. I'm getting

ready to purchase The Fluoride Deception has anyone read this. The sad thing is

that Fluoride is in so many of our foods.

Beth

Siah's Mommy <dasilvakat@...> wrote:

how does this group feel about fluoride being given to infants? i'd

love to know you're opinion on this matter.

kat

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Yes, they can find cavities if they take the time to look and use their

instruments. Much easier to radiate people though!

And to keep this on topic (thanks for the reminder, Sue) ; ) .... what we

consider " fine " these days really usually isn't. And the exposure to toxins

when we were kids is nothing compared to what today's generation of kids are

exposed to. Not only the exploded number of vaccines, but also the toxins

in the air, food, water, etc. Drugs and medical procedures are much more

commonplace and overused now, than when we were growing up.

We accept so many things as being " normal " in our health today when actually

our bodies may be giving us subtle hints for decades that something is

wrong. As time goes on, if those " hints " are ignored or suppressed, more

than likely we will pay the consequences later with more severe symptoms

getting our attention.

Before I started with homeopathy I accepted things like sleepless/restless

nights of sleep as being " normal. " I didn't realize how poorly I was

sleeping until I started sleeping sooo much better in the past couple of

years after starting treatment. And sleep is a HUGE indicator of our well

being.

Read a Materia Medica sometime and see how many things resonate as being

true in your own life/health. It's quite the eye opener! : )

Kay

Re: fluoride

> wow, they found the cavity without xrays? how did they do that?

>

> one more thing i'm gonna have to research...who knew parenting was so

> complicated...well i had an idea...but i didn't realize how much

> stuff there is out there that just works against raising a healthy

> kid.

>

> it's just amazing, my parents did all these things that we feel

> is " wrong " and so far...i'm fine....hmmmm...it's just so crazy.

>

> kat

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Its funny I'm a Dental Assistant & I would never say anything about the whole

Fluoride issue because they would think I'm crazy. They are always saying how

great it is. I just can't believe how people just take something and don't

really know what it is. Sometimes I think people are like sheep, they don't

think for themselves.

Kathleen Da Silva <dasilvakat@...> wrote: i have not read the

book, but the book that i am reading...holistic

pediatrics for parents by randall n....he mentions the book you

purchased as a good read regarding fluoride toxicity.

kat

> how does this group feel about fluoride being given to

infants? i'd love to know you're opinion on this matter.

>

> kat

>

> Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are but princesses that are

waiting to see us act just once with beauty and courage. Perhaps

everything terrible is in its deepest essence, something helpless

that needs our love.

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and to respond to the mention below of exposure to toxics - I bet many of us

live in neighborhoods where lawn chemicals are going to be applied - toxic

herbicides and insecticides!!

NOT ON MY LAWN!

Sandy (who thinks dandelions are BEAUTIFUL!)

(For more info visit www.pesticidefreelawns.org )

Re: fluoride

> wow, they found the cavity without xrays? how did they do that?

>

> one more thing i'm gonna have to research...who knew parenting was so

> complicated...well i had an idea...but i didn't realize how much

> stuff there is out there that just works against raising a healthy

> kid.

>

> it's just amazing, my parents did all these things that we feel

> is " wrong " and so far...i'm fine....hmmmm...it's just so crazy.

>

> kat

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I think people are like that w/ vaccines too. they don't know the

ingredients. they don't know what they're for. they don't know the

diseases. they're afraid of the Childhood diseases. they're afraid it'll

interrupt their life.

I remember getting the fluoride treatments in school as a child.. less

than 6th grade.. it's been around for so long and touted as a dental

thing for good, strong teeth.. soon enough lies become truth.. you

believe it as true and if it was or wasn't is long lost.

Venita

Motherhood is my career. 13, Jon 12, 9, 7, 5,

Christian (RIP: 7/16/03 to 8/22/04), and 1 now!

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Brita and pur do not remove fluoride. We have Brita also. There are

filters that do but they’re costly and I haven’t had the money yet to

buy one. Do a search for fluoride filters. I don’t like RO b/c it wastes

water and since there is a draught.. I’m not willing to have any water

wasted

Pur has a disgusting blurb on their package: leaves beneficial fluoride

in the water…. Ha! That answered that question didn’t it?! So I put

them back. The next best thing is to assemble some research and send it

to your water company in the hopes of getting fluoride OUT of the water

system but the belief is so pervasive about its benefits.. it’s much

like vaccines. The average joe only knows what has been taught since

forever ago and that is: vaccines protect your health and fluoride

protects your teeth.

The only thing I have found to be true about the last statement is

directly applied fluoride, right to the teeth.. but in drinking water?

Useless.

But I’m skeptical and I won’t even do applied right to the teeth.. I

don’t trust the stuff.

Nita, yes my hands are full, but not my heart: 14, Jon 13,

10, 8, 6, Christian (RIP: 7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2,

and due 2/08

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Thanks. I wonder if the water they sell by the gallon at Whole Foods

is flouride free. Even if it is, it would be stored in plastic

containers, so really you would only be trading one evil for another.

My husband and I switched to all natural flouride free toothpaste

many months back and I like it a lot better, even got rid of my

husband's tooth sensitivity. My sister also recently switched, but

cannot get her husband to even try it. He thinks it's gross, in

fact, won't try anything that is all natural and refuses to drink raw

milk, cause again, thinks it is gross. I guess this is the mentality

of most people.

>

> Brita and pur do not remove fluoride. We have Brita also. There are

> filters that do but they're costly and I haven't had the money yet

to

> buy one. Do a search for fluoride filters. I don't like RO b/c it

wastes

> water and since there is a draught.. I'm not willing to have any

water

> wasted

>

>

>

> Pur has a disgusting blurb on their package: leaves beneficial

fluoride

> in the water…. Ha! That answered that question didn't it?! So I put

> them back. The next best thing is to assemble some research and

send it

> to your water company in the hopes of getting fluoride OUT of the

water

> system but the belief is so pervasive about its benefits.. it's much

> like vaccines. The average joe only knows what has been taught since

> forever ago and that is: vaccines protect your health and fluoride

> protects your teeth.

>

>

>

> The only thing I have found to be true about the last statement is

> directly applied fluoride, right to the teeth.. but in drinking

water?

> Useless.

>

>

>

> But I'm skeptical and I won't even do applied right to the teeth.. I

> don't trust the stuff.

>

>

>

> Nita, yes my hands are full, but not my heart: 14, Jon 13,

> 10, 8, 6, Christian (RIP: 7/16/03 to 8/22/04),

2,

> and due 2/08

> Some minds are like concrete:

> Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.

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>

>

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The water that I order for our water machine is Fluoride free, I called to see

and she asked If I wanted the water with Fluoride in it. NO THANKS I told her.

Vida Khan <vidamarino@...> wrote: Thanks. I wonder if the water

they sell by the gallon at Whole Foods

is flouride free. Even if it is, it would be stored in plastic

containers, so really you would only be trading one evil for another.

My husband and I switched to all natural flouride free toothpaste

many months back and I like it a lot better, even got rid of my

husband's tooth sensitivity. My sister also recently switched, but

cannot get her husband to even try it. He thinks it's gross, in

fact, won't try anything that is all natural and refuses to drink raw

milk, cause again, thinks it is gross. I guess this is the mentality

of most people.

>

> Brita and pur do not remove fluoride. We have Brita also. There are

> filters that do but they're costly and I haven't had the money yet

to

> buy one. Do a search for fluoride filters. I don't like RO b/c it

wastes

> water and since there is a draught.. I'm not willing to have any

water

> wasted

>

>

>

> Pur has a disgusting blurb on their package: leaves beneficial

fluoride

> in the water…. Ha! That answered that question didn't it?! So I put

> them back. The next best thing is to assemble some research and

send it

> to your water company in the hopes of getting fluoride OUT of the

water

> system but the belief is so pervasive about its benefits.. it's much

> like vaccines. The average joe only knows what has been taught since

> forever ago and that is: vaccines protect your health and fluoride

> protects your teeth.

>

>

>

> The only thing I have found to be true about the last statement is

> directly applied fluoride, right to the teeth.. but in drinking

water?

> Useless.

>

>

>

> But I'm skeptical and I won't even do applied right to the teeth.. I

> don't trust the stuff.

>

>

>

> Nita, yes my hands are full, but not my heart: 14, Jon 13,

> 10, 8, 6, Christian (RIP: 7/16/03 to 8/22/04),

2,

> and due 2/08

> Some minds are like concrete:

> Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.

>

>

>

>

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what about the fact that in countries that do not have flouride in the water,

the people have horrible problems with their teeth...rotten, yellow teeth. that

is the arguement that is thrown at me when i try to persuade my husband to not

use flouride products or water. i am just starting to research flouride, so i

am at a loss with trying to convince him.

Vida Khan <vidamarino@...> wrote: Thanks. I wonder if the water

they sell by the gallon at Whole Foods

is flouride free. Even if it is, it would be stored in plastic

containers, so really you would only be trading one evil for another.

My husband and I switched to all natural flouride free toothpaste

many months back and I like it a lot better, even got rid of my

husband's tooth sensitivity. My sister also recently switched, but

cannot get her husband to even try it. He thinks it's gross, in

fact, won't try anything that is all natural and refuses to drink raw

milk, cause again, thinks it is gross. I guess this is the mentality

of most people.

>

> Brita and pur do not remove fluoride. We have Brita also. There are

> filters that do but they're costly and I haven't had the money yet

to

> buy one. Do a search for fluoride filters. I don't like RO b/c it

wastes

> water and since there is a draught.. I'm not willing to have any

water

> wasted

>

>

>

> Pur has a disgusting blurb on their package: leaves beneficial

fluoride

> in the water…. Ha! That answered that question didn't it?! So I put

> them back. The next best thing is to assemble some research and

send it

> to your water company in the hopes of getting fluoride OUT of the

water

> system but the belief is so pervasive about its benefits.. it's much

> like vaccines. The average joe only knows what has been taught since

> forever ago and that is: vaccines protect your health and fluoride

> protects your teeth.

>

>

>

> The only thing I have found to be true about the last statement is

> directly applied fluoride, right to the teeth.. but in drinking

water?

> Useless.

>

>

>

> But I'm skeptical and I won't even do applied right to the teeth.. I

> don't trust the stuff.

>

>

>

> Nita, yes my hands are full, but not my heart: 14, Jon 13,

> 10, 8, 6, Christian (RIP: 7/16/03 to 8/22/04),

2,

> and due 2/08

> Some minds are like concrete:

> Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.

>

>

>

>

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I would look at their diet, not their water and certainly not their

fluoride levels!

Besides, you can’t change your dh. You can only change YOU….so if you

are concerned, you can buy fluoride free toothpaste and use it and he

can have his own. You can get a filter for it and drink that. You’re

still going to ingest it though b/c many commercial products that are

made with water will probably have fluoride in the food

Nita, yes my hands are full, but not my heart: 14, Jon 13,

10, 8, 6, Christian (RIP: 7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 2,

and due 2/08

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Hi --

I have never used fluoride (although in my very early years we had

fluoridated water - which I wouldn't drink). I've only had 3 or 4 cavities

in my life (I'm 48). As a child, teen and adult I never told my parents I

didn't use toothpaste, but I didn't. I couldn't stand how it made my mouth

feel. Eventually I started using Tom's of Maine without fluoride, and then

Shaklee's Organic Dentifrice, again no fluoride.

When I switched dentists, the new guy tried giving me a fluoride treatment,

I couldn't do it, I had to spit it into the sink. So I'm not convinced that

fluoride is the miracle we've been led to believe -- if that were true, I

should have a mouth full of cavities. I also don't do yearly x-rays -

usually I do every 2 - 2 1/2 years.

IMHO I think cavities are caused by poor maternal diet, poor personal diet

and poor oral hygiene.

Health & blessings,

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On Dec 6, 2007 10:03 AM, carrie ferlazzo <carriesuzanne1@...> wrote:

> what about the fact that in countries that do not have flouride in the

> water, the people have horrible problems with their teeth...rotten, yellow

> teeth. that is the arguement that is thrown at me when i try to persuade my

> husband to not use flouride products or water. i am just starting to

> research flouride, so i am at a loss with trying to convince him.

>

> Vida Khan <vidamarino@...> wrote: Thanks. I wonder if the

> water they sell by the gallon at Whole Foods

> is flouride free. Even if it is, it would be stored in plastic

> containers, so really you would only be trading one evil for another.

>

> My husband and I switched to all natural flouride free toothpaste

> many months back and I like it a lot better, even got rid of my

> husband's tooth sensitivity. My sister also recently switched, but

> cannot get her husband to even try it. He thinks it's gross, in

> fact, won't try anything that is all natural and refuses to drink raw

> milk, cause again, thinks it is gross. I guess this is the mentality

> of most people.

>

>

> >

> > Brita and pur do not remove fluoride. We have Brita also. There are

> > filters that do but they're costly and I haven't had the money yet

> to

> > buy one. Do a search for fluoride filters. I don't like RO b/c it

> wastes

> > water and since there is a draught.. I'm not willing to have any

> water

> > wasted

> >

> >

> >

> > Pur has a disgusting blurb on their package: leaves beneficial

> fluoride

> > in the water…. Ha! That answered that question didn't it?! So I put

> > them back. The next best thing is to assemble some research and

> send it

> > to your water company in the hopes of getting fluoride OUT of the

> water

> > system but the belief is so pervasive about its benefits.. it's much

> > like vaccines. The average joe only knows what has been taught since

> > forever ago and that is: vaccines protect your health and fluoride

> > protects your teeth.

> >

> >

> >

> > The only thing I have found to be true about the last statement is

> > directly applied fluoride, right to the teeth.. but in drinking

> water?

> > Useless.

> >

> >

> >

> > But I'm skeptical and I won't even do applied right to the teeth.. I

> > don't trust the stuff.

> >

> >

> >

> > Nita, yes my hands are full, but not my heart: 14, Jon 13,

>

> > 10, 8, 6, Christian (RIP: 7/16/03 to 8/22/04),

> 2,

> > and due 2/08

> > Some minds are like concrete:

> > Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.

> >

> >

> >

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The only way to do that is to get a whole house filter....my chiropractor rents

one for less than $100/mo. I don't have any more info than that.

Laurie

does anyone know where to get a bath tub filter to remove fluoride?

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