Guest guest Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Wow! this is what the general public is reading on the American Thyroid Associations Website: Surgery for hyperthyroidism Your hyperthyroidism can be permanently cured by surgical removal of most of your thyroid gland. This procedure is best performed by a surgeon who has much experience in thyroid surgery. An operation could be risky unless your hyperthyroidism is first controlled by an antithyroid drug (see above) or a beta-blocking drug (see below). Usually for some days before surgery, your surgeon may want you to take drops of nonradioactive iodine—either Lugol's iodine or supersaturated potassium iodide (SSKI). This extra iodine reduces the blood supply to the thyroid gland and thus makes the surgery easier and safer. (emphasis added) Radioactive iodine Another way to treat hyperthyroidism is to damage or destroy the thyroid cells that make thyroid hormone. Because these cells need iodine to make thyroid hormone, they will take up any form of iodine in your blood stream, whether it is radioactive or not. The radioactive iodine used in this treatment is administered by mouth, usually in a small capsule that is taken just once. Once swallowed, the radioactive iodine gets into your blood stream and quickly is taken up by the overactive thyroid cells. The radioactive iodine that is not taken up by the thyroid cells disappears from the body within days. Over a period of several weeks to several months (during which time drug treatment may be used to control hyperthyroid symptoms), radioactive iodine destroys the cells that have taken it up. The result is that the thyroid or thyroid nodules shrink in size, and the level of thyroid hormone in the blood returns to normal. Sometimes patients will remain hyperthyroid, but usually to a lesser degree than before. For them, a second radioiodine treatment can be given if needed. More often, hypothyroidism (an underactive thyroid) occurs after a few months and lasts lifelong, requiring treatment. In fact, when patients have Graves' disease, a dose of radioactive iodine is chosen with the goal of making the patient hypothyroid so that the hyperthyroidism does not return in the future. Hypothyroidism can easily be treated with a thyroid hormone supplement taken once a day (see Hypothyroidism brochure). Radioactive iodine has been used to treat patients for hyperthyroidism for over 60 years and has been shown to be generally safe. Importantly, there has been no clear increase in cancer in hyperthyroid patients that have been treated with radioactive iodine. As a result, in the United States more than 70% of adults who develop hyperthyroidism are treated with radioactive iodine. More and more children over the age of 5 are also being safely treated with radioiodine. (emphasis added) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 The ATA is one of the worst group of doctors. So much damaging advice given to patients. My comments below: Buist, ND Re: More info from the Amer.Thyroid Assoc Wow! this is what the general public is reading on the American Thyroid Associations Website:Surgery for hyperthyroidismYour hyperthyroidism can be permanently cured by surgical removal of most of your thyroid gland. This procedure is best performed by a surgeon who has much experience in thyroid surgery. An operation could be risky unless your hyperthyroidism is first controlled by an antithyroid drug (see above) or a beta-blocking drug (see below). Usually for some days before surgery, your surgeon may want you to take drops of nonradioactive iodine—either Lugol's iodine or supersaturated potassium iodide (SSKI). This extra iodine reduces the blood supply to the thyroid gland and thus makes the surgery easier and safer. (emphasis added)Blood flows through the thyroid regardless of iodine. The thyroid cells have receptors on them (NIS) that are looking for iodine in the blood stream. As the blood passes through the thyroid gland the cells attempt to "capture" any circulating iodine within the blood. If iodine could reduce the level of blood then it would be limiting the blood flow through the entire body as it "passes THROUGH" the gland. The blood supply also picks up thyroid hormones that are being created in the gland and distribute it to tissues throughout the body. So when you think about it, mechanically it doesn't make sense. Radioactive iodineAnother way to treat hyperthyroidism is to damage or destroy the thyroid cells that make thyroid hormone. Because these cells need iodine to make thyroid hormone, they will take up any form of iodine in your blood stream, whether it is radioactive or not. The radioactive iodine used in this treatment is administered by mouth, usually in a small capsule that is taken just once. Once swallowed, the radioactive iodine gets into your blood stream and quickly is taken up by the overactive thyroid cells. The radioactive iodine that is not taken up by the thyroid cells disappears from the body within days. Over a period of several weeks to several months (during which time drug treatment may be used to control hyperthyroid symptoms), radioactive iodine destroys the cells that have taken it up. The result is that the thyroid or thyroid nodules shrink in size, and the level of thyroid hormone in the blood returns to normal. Sometimes patients will remain hyperthyroid, but usually to a lesser degree than before. For them, a second radioiodine treatment can be given if needed. More often, hypothyroidism (an underactive thyroid) occurs after a few months and lasts lifelong, requiring treatment. In fact, when patients have Graves' disease, a dose of radioactive iodine is chosen with the goal of making the patient hypothyroid so that the hyperthyroidism does not return in the future. Hypothyroidism can easily be treated with a thyroid hormone supplement taken once a day (see Hypothyroidism brochure). Radioactive iodine has been used to treat patients for hyperthyroidism for over 60 years and has been shown to be generally safe. Importantly, there has been no clear increase in cancer in hyperthyroid patients that have been treated with radioactive iodine. As a result, in the United States more than 70% of adults who develop hyperthyroidism are treated with radioactive iodine. More and more children over the age of 5 are also being safely treated with radioiodine. (emphasis added) When they look for "damage" they do not look to other endocrine glands, link to breast cancers, and hypothyroidism that occurs in offspring of the treated patient. I looked into this extensively after being treated 3 times to know what I was "in for" and why risk was to my children. It is hard data to find and honestly I don't think they have made an effort to look at it very hard as they have been using it for 60 years and what would happen if they all of the sudden had to come out and say "oops - it really wasn't that safe". Check out the Atomic Women group who are hyperthyroid patients suffering after RAI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Something I noticed... How is it that excess radioactive iodine " disappears from the body within days " , presumably harmlessly, and yet taking Lugol's will cause all sorts of horrible things to happen, if you talk to most docs? Perhaps they're looking at it in a dose-dependent way, but still, it seems a double standard, especially considering what the radioactive iodine is put in there to do! The Canadian Thyroid Foundation site has a few howlers too. Jaye > > The ATA is one of the worst group of doctors. So much damaging advice given to patients. My comments below: > > Buist, ND > > > Re: More info from the Amer.Thyroid Assoc > > > > Wow! this is what the general public is reading on the American Thyroid Associations Website: > > > Surgery for hyperthyroidism > Your hyperthyroidism can be permanently cured by surgical removal of most of your thyroid gland. This procedure is best performed by a surgeon who has much experience in thyroid surgery. An operation could be risky unless your hyperthyroidism is first controlled by an antithyroid drug (see above) or a beta-blocking drug (see below). Usually for some days before surgery, your surgeon may want you to take drops of nonradioactive iodine-either Lugol's iodine or supersaturated potassium iodide (SSKI). This extra iodine reduces the blood supply to the thyroid gland and thus makes the surgery easier and safer. (emphasis added) > Blood flows through the thyroid regardless of iodine. The thyroid cells have receptors on them (NIS) that are looking for iodine in the blood stream. As the blood passes through the thyroid gland the cells attempt to " capture " any circulating iodine within the blood. If iodine could reduce the level of blood then it would be limiting the blood flow through the entire body as it " passes THROUGH " the gland. The blood supply also picks up thyroid hormones that are being created in the gland and distribute it to tissues throughout the body. So when you think about it, mechanically it doesn't make sense. > > > > Radioactive iodine > Another way to treat hyperthyroidism is to damage or destroy the thyroid cells that make thyroid hormone. Because these cells need iodine to make thyroid hormone, they will take up any form of iodine in your blood stream, whether it is radioactive or not. The radioactive iodine used in this treatment is administered by mouth, usually in a small capsule that is taken just once. Once swallowed, the radioactive iodine gets into your blood stream and quickly is taken up by the overactive thyroid cells. The radioactive iodine that is not taken up by the thyroid cells disappears from the body within days. Over a period of several weeks to several months (during which time drug treatment may be used to control hyperthyroid symptoms), radioactive iodine destroys the cells that have taken it up. The result is that the thyroid or thyroid nodules shrink in size, and the level of thyroid hormone in the blood returns to normal. Sometimes patients will remain hyperthyroid, but usually to a lesser degree than before. For them, a second radioiodine treatment can be given if needed. More often, hypothyroidism (an underactive thyroid) occurs after a few months and lasts lifelong, requiring treatment. In fact, when patients have Graves' disease, a dose of radioactive iodine is chosen with the goal of making the patient hypothyroid so that the hyperthyroidism does not return in the future. Hypothyroidism can easily be treated with a thyroid hormone supplement taken once a day (see Hypothyroidism brochure). > > Radioactive iodine has been used to treat patients for hyperthyroidism for over 60 years and has been shown to be generally safe. Importantly, there has been no clear increase in cancer in hyperthyroid patients that have been treated with radioactive iodine. As a result, in the United States more than 70% of adults who develop hyperthyroidism are treated with radioactive iodine. More and more children over the age of 5 are also being safely treated with radioiodine. (emphasis added) > > > When they look for " damage " they do not look to other endocrine glands, link to breast cancers, and hypothyroidism that occurs in offspring of the treated patient. I looked into this extensively after being treated 3 times to know what I was " in for " and why risk was to my children. It is hard data to find and honestly I don't think they have made an effort to look at it very hard as they have been using it for 60 years and what would happen if they all of the sudden had to come out and say " oops - it really wasn't that safe " . Check out the Atomic Women group who are hyperthyroid patients suffering after RAI. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 The amount of iodine in the treatment is VERY small. We know that when preparing for the Loading test we avoid taking iodine for 48 hours to avoid circulating iodine. Since most doctors believe that iodine is only for the thyroid and not for the entire body then you can see why they would believe that it would leave quickly. The thyroid has been removed or is ablated so there is no longer any need for hormone creation - hence no need for iodine. I can't tell you how many people tell me that their doctor tells them they don't need iodine now that they don't have a thyroid. It drives me nuts. You can see the "benefits" of this logic when many thyroid cancer patients go on to get breast cancer or visa versa. The other measurement they are looking at is the 1/2 life of RAI I-131 which is 8 days. It is assumed that all of the iodine has left by this time too since they can no longer measure it. Stupid logic. Buist, ND HC Re: More info from the Amer.Thyroid Assoc> > > > Wow! this is what the general public is reading on the American Thyroid Associations Website:> > > Surgery for hyperthyroidism> Your hyperthyroidism can be permanently cured by surgical removal of most of your thyroid gland. This procedure is best performed by a surgeon who has much experience in thyroid surgery. An operation could be risky unless your hyperthyroidism is first controlled by an antithyroid drug (see above) or a beta-blocking drug (see below). Usually for some days before surgery, your surgeon may want you to take drops of nonradioactive iodine-either Lugol's iodine or supersaturated potassium iodide (SSKI). This extra iodine reduces the blood supply to the thyroid gland and thus makes the surgery easier and safer. (emphasis added)> Blood flows through the thyroid regardless of iodine. The thyroid cells have receptors on them (NIS) that are looking for iodine in the blood stream. As the blood passes through the thyroid gland the cells attempt to "capture" any circulating iodine within the blood. If iodine could reduce the level of blood then it would be limiting the blood flow through the entire body as it "passes THROUGH" the gland. The blood supply also picks up thyroid hormones that are being created in the gland and distribute it to tissues throughout the body. So when you think about it, mechanically it doesn't make sense.> > > > Radioactive iodine> Another way to treat hyperthyroidism is to damage or destroy the thyroid cells that make thyroid hormone. Because these cells need iodine to make thyroid hormone, they will take up any form of iodine in your blood stream, whether it is radioactive or not. The radioactive iodine used in this treatment is administered by mouth, usually in a small capsule that is taken just once. Once swallowed, the radioactive iodine gets into your blood stream and quickly is taken up by the overactive thyroid cells. The radioactive iodine that is not taken up by the thyroid cells disappears from the body within days. Over a period of several weeks to several months (during which time drug treatment may be used to control hyperthyroid symptoms), radioactive iodine destroys the cells that have taken it up. The result is that the thyroid or thyroid nodules shrink in size, and the level of thyroid hormone in the blood returns to normal. Sometimes patients will remain hyperthyroid, but usually to a lesser degree than before. For them, a second radioiodine treatment can be given if needed. More often, hypothyroidism (an underactive thyroid) occurs after a few months and lasts lifelong, requiring treatment. In fact, when patients have Graves' disease, a dose of radioactive iodine is chosen with the goal of making the patient hypothyroid so that the hyperthyroidism does not return in the future. Hypothyroidism can easily be treated with a thyroid hormone supplement taken once a day (see Hypothyroidism brochure).> > Radioactive iodine has been used to treat patients for hyperthyroidism for over 60 years and has been shown to be generally safe. Importantly, there has been no clear increase in cancer in hyperthyroid patients that have been treated with radioactive iodine. As a result, in the United States more than 70% of adults who develop hyperthyroidism are treated with radioactive iodine. More and more children over the age of 5 are also being safely treated with radioiodine. (emphasis added)> > > When they look for "damage" they do not look to other endocrine glands, link to breast cancers, and hypothyroidism that occurs in offspring of the treated patient. I looked into this extensively after being treated 3 times to know what I was "in for" and why risk was to my children. It is hard data to find and honestly I don't think they have made an effort to look at it very hard as they have been using it for 60 years and what would happen if they all of the sudden had to come out and say "oops - it really wasn't that safe". Check out the Atomic Women group who are hyperthyroid patients suffering after RAI.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Thank you so much for doing this Iodine Group.There is just so much bad information and out right lies put out by the medical community, ATA, AMA, FDA and even The American Cancer Society.How can a doctor take The Hippocratic Oath to do no harm,and than do all the treatments that the regular medical association's recommend.Radiation to KILL your thyroid or just cut it out, or the Cut, Poison, and Burn to treat most cancers, and HOPE the treatment doesn't kill you or permanently damage you body.It is amazing to find out what you have been through, and than becoming a ND and doing this group.You are helping so many people, Thank You So MuchkmkFrom: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>Subject: Re: More info from the Amer.Thyroid Associodine Date: Tuesday, December 27, 2011, 2:16 PM The ATA is one of the worst group of doctors. So much damaging advice given to patients. My comments below: Buist, ND Re: More info from the Amer.Thyroid Assoc Wow! this is what the general public is reading on the American Thyroid Associations Website:Surgery for hyperthyroidismYour hyperthyroidism can be permanently cured by surgical removal of most of your thyroid gland. This procedure is best performed by a surgeon who has much experience in thyroid surgery. An operation could be risky unless your hyperthyroidism is first controlled by an antithyroid drug (see above) or a beta-blocking drug (see below). Usually for some days before surgery, your surgeon may want you to take drops of nonradioactive iodine—either Lugol's iodine or supersaturated potassium iodide (SSKI). This extra iodine reduces the blood supply to the thyroid gland and thus makes the surgery easier and safer. (emphasis added)Blood flows through the thyroid regardless of iodine. The thyroid cells have receptors on them (NIS) that are looking for iodine in the blood stream. As the blood passes through the thyroid gland the cells attempt to "capture" any circulating iodine within the blood. If iodine could reduce the level of blood then it would be limiting the blood flow through the entire body as it "passes THROUGH" the gland. The blood supply also picks up thyroid hormones that are being created in the gland and distribute it to tissues throughout the body. So when you think about it, mechanically it doesn't make sense. Radioactive iodineAnother way to treat hyperthyroidism is to damage or destroy the thyroid cells that make thyroid hormone. Because these cells need iodine to make thyroid hormone, they will take up any form of iodine in your blood stream, whether it is radioactive or not. The radioactive iodine used in this treatment is administered by mouth, usually in a small capsule that is taken just once. Once swallowed, the radioactive iodine gets into your blood stream and quickly is taken up by the overactive thyroid cells. The radioactive iodine that is not taken up by the thyroid cells disappears from the body within days. Over a period of several weeks to several months (during which time drug treatment may be used to control hyperthyroid symptoms), radioactive iodine destroys the cells that have taken it up. The result is that the thyroid or thyroid nodules shrink in size, and the level of thyroid hormone in the blood returns to normal. Sometimes patients will remain hyperthyroid, but usually to a lesser degree than before. For them, a second radioiodine treatment can be given if needed. More often, hypothyroidism (an underactive thyroid) occurs after a few months and lasts lifelong, requiring treatment. In fact, when patients have Graves' disease, a dose of radioactive iodine is chosen with the goal of making the patient hypothyroid so that the hyperthyroidism does not return in the future. Hypothyroidism can easily be treated with a thyroid hormone supplement taken once a day (see Hypothyroidism brochure). Radioactive iodine has been used to treat patients for hyperthyroidism for over 60 years and has been shown to be generally safe. Importantly, there has been no clear increase in cancer in hyperthyroid patients that have been treated with radioactive iodine. As a result, in the United States more than 70% of adults who develop hyperthyroidism are treated with radioactive iodine. More and more children over the age of 5 are also being safely treated with radioiodine. (emphasis added) When they look for "damage" they do not look to other endocrine glands, link to breast cancers, and hypothyroidism that occurs in offspring of the treated patient. I looked into this extensively after being treated 3 times to know what I was "in for" and why risk was to my children. It is hard data to find and honestly I don't think they have made an effort to look at it very hard as they have been using it for 60 years and what would happen if they all of the sudden had to come out and say "oops - it really wasn't that safe". Check out the Atomic Women group who are hyperthyroid patients suffering after RAI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011  You are very welcome! The more I learn the angrier (is that word ) I get. I am bound and determined that some will learn the truth. I got several "truth about cancer" DVD's for Christmas. "Cancer - The Forbidden Cures" It was a great DVD for getting someone's feet wet that there are other things out there that work and are not toxic. That your body can actually heal if given the tools. I am blessed each time one of you are blessed by what I am able to share through my pain and suffering. It makes it worth it to know that it wasn't for nothing. Buist, ND HC Re: More info from the Amer.Thyroid Assoc Wow! this is what the general public is reading on the American Thyroid Associations Website:Surgery for hyperthyroidismYour hyperthyroidism can be permanently cured by surgical removal of most of your thyroid gland. This procedure is best performed by a surgeon who has much experience in thyroid surgery. An operation could be risky unless your hyperthyroidism is first controlled by an antithyroid drug (see above) or a beta-blocking drug (see below). Usually for some days before surgery, your surgeon may want you to take drops of nonradioactive iodine—either Lugol's iodine or supersaturated potassium iodide (SSKI). This extra iodine reduces the blood supply to the thyroid gland and thus makes the surgery easier and safer. (emphasis added)Blood flows through the thyroid regardless of iodine. The thyroid cells have receptors on them (NIS) that are looking for iodine in the blood stream. As the blood passes through the thyroid gland the cells attempt to "capture" any circulating iodine within the blood. If iodine could reduce the level of blood then it would be limiting the blood flow through the entire body as it "passes THROUGH" the gland. The blood supply also picks up thyroid hormones that are being created in the gland and distribute it to tissues throughout the body. So when you think about it, mechanically it doesn't make sense. Radioactive iodineAnother way to treat hyperthyroidism is to damage or destroy the thyroid cells that make thyroid hormone. Because these cells need iodine to make thyroid hormone, they will take up any form of iodine in your blood stream, whether it is radioactive or not. The radioactive iodine used in this treatment is administered by mouth, usually in a small capsule that is taken just once. Once swallowed, the radioactive iodine gets into your blood stream and quickly is taken up by the overactive thyroid cells. The radioactive iodine that is not taken up by the thyroid cells disappears from the body within days. Over a period of several weeks to several months (during which time drug treatment may be used to control hyperthyroid symptoms), radioactive iodine destroys the cells that have taken it up. The result is that the thyroid or thyroid nodules shrink in size, and the level of thyroid hormone in the blood returns to normal. Sometimes patients will remain hyperthyroid, but usually to a lesser degree than before. For them, a second radioiodine treatment can be given if needed. More often, hypothyroidism (an underactive thyroid) occurs after a few months and lasts lifelong, requiring treatment. In fact, when patients have Graves' disease, a dose of radioactive iodine is chosen with the goal of making the patient hypothyroid so that the hyperthyroidism does not return in the future. Hypothyroidism can easily be treated with a thyroid hormone supplement taken once a day (see Hypothyroidism brochure). Radioactive iodine has been used to treat patients for hyperthyroidism for over 60 years and has been shown to be generally safe. Importantly, there has been no clear increase in cancer in hyperthyroid patients that have been treated with radioactive iodine. As a result, in the United States more than 70% of adults who develop hyperthyroidism are treated with radioactive iodine. More and more children over the age of 5 are also being safely treated with radioiodine. (emphasis added) When they look for "damage" they do not look to other endocrine glands, link to breast cancers, and hypothyroidism that occurs in offspring of the treated patient. I looked into this extensively after being treated 3 times to know what I was "in for" and why risk was to my children. It is hard data to find and honestly I don't think they have made an effort to look at it very hard as they have been using it for 60 years and what would happen if they all of the sudden had to come out and say "oops - it really wasn't that safe". Check out the Atomic Women group who are hyperthyroid patients suffering after RAI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 I was watching a program on PBN about the first female president of Harvard. She is an interesting woman and then it was mentioned that she had breast cancer and then later thyroid cancer. OMG I imagine she is on a T4 only med too. Gracia The amount of iodine in the treatment is VERY small. We know that when preparing for the Loading test we avoid taking iodine for 48 hours to avoid circulating iodine. Since most doctors believe that iodine is only for the thyroid and not for the entire body then you can see why they would believe that it would leave quickly. The thyroid has been removed or is ablated so there is no longer any need for hormone creation - hence no need for iodine. I can't tell you how many people tell me that their doctor tells them they don't need iodine now that they don't have a thyroid. It drives me nuts. You can see the "benefits" of this logic when many thyroid cancer patients go on to get breast cancer or visa versa. The other measurement they are looking at is the 1/2 life of RAI I-131 which is 8 days. It is assumed that all of the iodine has left by this time too since they can no longer measure it. Stupid logic. Buist, ND HC ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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