Re: Re: papillary cancer

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Hi allI feel like I've failed and now I don't know where to go next. I was diagnosed in Dec 09 with pap cancer but wanted to avoid the TT and so went down a more natural route to try and strengthen my body using the iodine protocol and another other anti cancer protocol. I have seen a doctor who suggested I start the Erfa because my thyroid was becoming sluggish seen from blood test results and I have been doing great since except for 8 weeks ago when i developed a cough and now a very hoarse voice. Water is difficult to drink as it goes down the "wrong" way - following a visit to the endo today, it appears that either the cancer cells are invading the voicebox (the left vocal chord isn't working properly) or the

lump is squashing the chord and making it inflamed. Obviously the latter is the better of the two scenarios and I am due for an MRI scan soon. All the endo said was "I told you I had reservations and now you can see that what you were doing has not worked" - at the moment i feel that that's true and I'm scared. Can anyone offer any thoughts? Anyone had any similar experiences?

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Can you post the following information:

1. What supplements were you taking & for how long.

2. How much ERFA were you on?

3. What were your lab values like (TSH, Free T3 and Free T4)

4. Any dietary changes you made?

5. Do you have amalgam fillings or root canals in your teeth?

Buist, ND HC

Re: Re: papillary cancer

Hi allI feel like I've failed and now I don't know where to go next. I was diagnosed in Dec 09 with pap cancer but wanted to avoid the TT and so went down a more natural route to try and strengthen my body using the iodine protocol and another other anti cancer protocol. I have seen a doctor who suggested I start the Erfa because my thyroid was becoming sluggish seen from blood test results and I have been doing great since except for 8 weeks ago when i developed a cough and now a very hoarse voice. Water is difficult to drink as it goes down the "wrong" way - following a visit to the endo today, it appears that either the cancer cells are invading the voicebox (the left vocal chord isn't working properly) or the lump is squashing the chord and making it inflamed. Obviously the latter is the better of the two scenarios and I am due for an MRI scan soon. All the endo said was "I told you I had reservations and now you can see that what you were doing has not worked" - at the moment i feel that that's true and I'm scared. Can anyone offer any thoughts? Anyone had any similar experiences?

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I am new here and don't really have any advice but please know I am praying for you during these days and months ahead as you seek treatment and answer on where to go and what to do to get to that place of renewed health. Blessings and try to have a good Christmas and take a moment at a time and do yourself a huge favor and don't look so far ahead about what is going to happen and live one day at a time. I have been sent home to die twice and I am still here by God's mercy and grace. Many hugs are going your way. Hugs from Rae in NY state. Sent from my iPOn Dec 23, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Kuziw <akuziw@...> wrote:

Hi allI feel like I've failed and now I don't know where to go next. I was diagnosed in Dec 09 with pap cancer but wanted to avoid the TT and so went down a more natural route to try and strengthen my body using the iodine protocol and another other anti cancer protocol. I have seen a doctor who suggested I start the Erfa because my thyroid was becoming sluggish seen from blood test results and I have been doing great since except for 8 weeks ago when i developed a cough and now a very hoarse voice. Water is difficult to drink as it goes down the "wrong" way - following a visit to the endo today, it appears that either the cancer cells are invading the voicebox (the left vocal chord isn't working properly) or the

lump is squashing the chord and making it inflamed. Obviously the latter is the better of the two scenarios and I am due for an MRI scan soon. All the endo said was "I told you I had reservations and now you can see that what you were doing has not worked" - at the moment i feel that that's true and I'm scared. Can anyone offer any thoughts? Anyone had any similar experiences?

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Supplements:Co-enzyme Q10 100mg x 1vit D 3 x 1 (5,000 iu)

Seagreens wild seaweed sup x 2

Beta Glucan x 4

Selenium x 1 (200 mcg)

Multivit drops x 15 drops/day

Methylcobalamin x 1

Oleander capsules x 4

Probiotics when I have them in

NAC when I have it inCeltic salt - not a regular thing, but take it when i think about it. Use liberally on food

Folic acid (5 mcg) x 1

Vit B12 monthly x 1Have taken these for quite a while

- most for the two years and they get tweaked from time to time by my naturopath contact.2. 2g Erfa for about 5 months now3. Last labs were from September: Thyroid function

test

Serum free T4 level 12.0 pmol/L (11.0-22.0)

SR

Serum TSH level LO 0.02 mU/L (0.10-4.00) SR

Serum free T3 5.5 pmol/L (3.5-6.5)

SR4. Dietary changes - very little meat, some fish, lots of veg either steamed or raw, juices and smoothies - mainly veg rather than fruit. Salads when I can. Was doing at least two juices/smoothies a day but sometimes I can't manage it due to work so end up only doing one juice (it is a good pint and a half though. try to do gluten free as much as poss. 5. Had all amalgams out last year and replaced properly and have one root canal at the front to look at in the new year

(Affordability)Thankanna From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...> iodine Sent: Friday, 23

December 2011, 15:25 Subject: Re: Re: papillary cancer

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Can you post the following information:

1. What supplements were you taking & for how long.

2. How much ERFA were you on?

3. What were your lab values like (TSH, Free T3 and Free T4)

4. Any dietary changes you made?

5. Do you have amalgam fillings or root canals in your teeth?

Buist, ND HC

Re: Re: papillary cancer

Hi allI feel like I've failed and now I don't know where to go next. I was diagnosed in Dec 09 with pap cancer but wanted to avoid the TT and so went down a more natural route to try and strengthen my body using the iodine protocol and another other anti cancer protocol. I have seen a doctor who suggested I start the Erfa because my thyroid was becoming sluggish seen from blood test results and I have been doing great since except for 8 weeks ago when i developed a cough and now a very hoarse voice. Water is difficult to drink as it goes down the "wrong" way - following a visit to the endo today, it appears that either the cancer cells are invading the voicebox (the left vocal chord isn't working properly) or the lump is squashing the chord and making it inflamed. Obviously the latter is the better of the two scenarios and I am due for an MRI scan soon. All the endo said was "I told you I had reservations and now you can see that what you were doing has not worked" - at the moment i feel that that's true and I'm scared. Can anyone offer any thoughts? Anyone had any similar experiences?

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Ok, here is what I see from the perspective of what I did to fight thyroid cancer. My thyroid was gone but I believe the same principles apply.

I don't see Iodine on your list. Unless you forgot to mention it - that IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING in beating this cancer. If you are planning on your seagreens doing the job you have not understood what we teach here. You need MILLIGRAM dosages not Microgram as would be found in a supplement such as this. According to the research you need to deliberately take dosages of 50 mgs or more. Many of the "Iodine doctors" are recommending 200 - 300 mgs / day for their cancer patients.

I see a smaller dose of Selenium. If it were me I would increase to 400 mcg.

I also don't see any magnesium. You need that when fighting cancer. I would do 400 mgs and it is what I did.

I also don't see Vit C. Yes you get it from the whole foods but again - deliberately with a known amount is what you need when fighting cancer. You also need it for proper NIS functionality.

Unrefined salt - make sure you get it in. Your symporters that pull in iodine into the cells are called (N)sodium (I)odine (S)ymporters or NIS. Without enough sodium in your body you will not have symporters that function well. This also ties in with the Vit C as it can heal symporter defects. The salt also helps in detoxing halides.

Since most cancer patients have the MTHFR gene defect, taking a folic acid supplement is not enough. You will need to look at taking the 5-Tetra form of Folic acid. The other one cannot be broken down and methylized by those of us w/ the defect. If works even if you do not have the defect as well so it is a win win.

B12 one time a month? I took 1,000 mgs via injections (self administered) daily when fighting cancer.

What are your vitamin D levels? This is very important that you maintain a level of 50-70. Vit D is very anti cancer.

If this is a clear picture of what you have been doing then it is no surprise to me that you have not made progress and in fact seem to have gotten worse. I am not trying to be mean to you - just emphasize how important it is to do what we outline here. It works.

I hope this helps!

Buist, ND HC

Re: Re: papillary cancer

Hi allI feel like I've failed and now I don't know where to go next. I was diagnosed in Dec 09 with pap cancer but wanted to avoid the TT and so went down a more natural route to try and strengthen my body using the iodine protocol and another other anti cancer protocol. I have seen a doctor who suggested I start the Erfa because my thyroid was becoming sluggish seen from blood test results and I have been doing great since except for 8 weeks ago when i developed a cough and now a very hoarse voice. Water is difficult to drink as it goes down the "wrong" way - following a visit to the endo today, it appears that either the cancer cells are invading the voicebox (the left vocal chord isn't working properly) or the lump is squashing the chord and making it inflamed. Obviously the latter is the better of the two scenarios and I am due for an MRI scan soon. All the endo said was "I told you I had reservations and now you can see that what you were doing has not worked" - at the moment i feel that that's true and I'm scared. Can anyone offer any thoughts? Anyone had any similar experiences?

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My head is obviously mushy as I do take lugols iodine - currently 200mgs am onlyVit C = I have been doing at least 3g a day but I obviously see that that needs to increaseWhere can I get the 5-tetra form of folic acid as have never heard of this?I can increase the B12 injection to at least once a week until i can get the doc to prescribe more as i can't just get it over the counter hereMy last vit D level was 123.8 ug/lI use a magnesium spray at night but I suppose that isn't as regulated as taking 400mgs orallyIt does help thanks - I need to up my focus. From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...> iodine Sent: Friday, 23 December 2011, 17:20 Subject: Re: Re: papillary cancer



Ok, here is what I see from the perspective of what I did to fight thyroid cancer. My thyroid was gone but I believe the same principles apply.

I don't see Iodine on your list. Unless you forgot to mention it - that IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING in beating this cancer. If you are planning on your seagreens doing the job you have not understood what we teach here. You need MILLIGRAM dosages not Microgram as would be found in a supplement such as this. According to the research you need to deliberately take dosages of 50 mgs or more. Many of the "Iodine doctors" are recommending 200 - 300 mgs / day for their cancer patients.

I see a smaller dose of Selenium. If it were me I would increase to 400 mcg.

I also don't see any magnesium. You need that when fighting cancer. I would do 400 mgs and it is what I did.

I also don't see Vit C. Yes you get it from the whole foods but again - deliberately with a known amount is what you need when fighting cancer. You also need it for proper NIS functionality.

Unrefined salt - make sure you get it in. Your symporters that pull in iodine into the cells are called (N)sodium (I)odine (S)ymporters or NIS. Without enough sodium in your body you will not have symporters that function well. This also ties in with the Vit C as it can heal symporter defects. The salt also helps in detoxing halides.

Since most cancer patients have the MTHFR gene defect, taking a folic acid supplement is not enough. You will need to look at taking the 5-Tetra form of Folic acid. The other one cannot be broken down and methylized by those of us w/ the defect. If works even if you do not have the defect as well so it is a win win.

B12 one time a month? I took 1,000 mgs via injections (self administered) daily when fighting cancer.

What are your vitamin D levels? This is very important that you maintain a level of 50-70. Vit D is very anti cancer.

If this is a clear picture of what you have been doing then it is no surprise to me that you have not made progress and in fact seem to have gotten worse. I am not trying to be mean to you - just emphasize how important it is to do what we outline here. It works.

I hope this helps!

Buist, ND HC

Re: Re: papillary cancer

Hi allI feel like I've failed and now I don't know where to go next. I was diagnosed in Dec 09 with pap cancer but wanted to avoid the TT and so went down a more natural route to try and strengthen my body using the iodine protocol and another other anti cancer protocol. I have seen a doctor who suggested I start the Erfa because my thyroid was becoming sluggish seen from blood test results and I have been doing great since except for 8 weeks ago when i developed a cough and now a very hoarse voice. Water is difficult to drink as it goes down the "wrong" way - following a visit to the endo today, it appears that either the cancer cells are invading the voicebox (the left vocal chord isn't working properly) or the lump is squashing the chord and making it inflamed. Obviously the latter is the better of the two scenarios and I am due for an MRI scan soon. All the endo said was "I told you I had reservations and now you can see that what you were doing has not worked" - at the moment i feel that that's true and I'm scared. Can anyone offer any thoughts? Anyone had any similar experiences?