distilled water

July 20, 2000

Is deer park water distilled water?

I know i must sound pretty stupid but what is distilled water?

Jill

July 20, 2000

Jill,

Distilled water is water that has been evaporated by boiling and

then has been recondensed to liquid. When this is done properly, the

vast majority of impurities in the form of dissolved solids stay

behind, and the water is closer to being pure H2O. I say " closer, "

because it is impossible in practice to remove absolutely all the

impurities. If you use a technique with a low enough detection

limit, you will always find impurities. As chemists sometimes say,

" There is at least a little bit of everything in everything. "

Natural waters have much higher concentrations of dissolved solids

than distilled water. Some of these impurities are minerals that

are essential to the human body, such as calcium, magnesium,

sodium, and potassium. One that I think is particularly important in

CFS and FM is magnesium. Many PWCs benefit from taking supplementary

magnesium. If you drink only distilled water, or even many of the

bottled waters that are not distilled, you can get significantly less

magnesium than you would from the average well water. Other

significant sources of magnesium are green leafy vegetables, seeds,

nuts, and whole grains.

Rich

> Is deer park water distilled water?

> I know i must sound pretty stupid but what is distilled water?

> Jill

July 20, 2000

Rich, Thanks for the info. and thank you for taking the time to explain it to

me.

Thanks Jill

July 20, 2000

on 7/20/00 1:39 PM, krhess@... at krhess@...

wrote:

> Regarding drinking distilled water on a regular basis, I had never been

> clear as to whether this was really good or not. Dr. Mercola had a very

> good article on a recent health newsletter www.mercola.com recently

> saying we should not drink it on a regular basis because it DOES leach

> out minerals and because it is acidic.

Hope,

From the research I've done, the distilled vs. non-distilled water debate

has to be one of the most controversial health issues in existence. It's a

HOT topic! That said, my observation is that there are scientists, doctors,

etc. with lots of credentials on both sides of the debate. However, it

seems to me that the weight of credentials and credibility is higher on the

pro distilled water side. That is, I think that a better 'argument by

authority' is given in favour of distilled water.

Here are some well reputed people giving their opinion:

> *Dr. Mayo* of the Mayo Clinic

>

> " Water hardness (inorganic minerals in solution) is the underlying cause of

> many, if not all, of the diseases resulting from poisons in the intestinal

> tract. These (hard minerals) pass from the intestinal walls and get into the

> lymphatic system, which delivers all of its products to the blood, which in

> turn, distributes to all parts of the body. This is the cause of much human

> disease. "

> * C. Bragg, N.D., Ph.D.*

>

> " Again, let me state empathetically that, in my opinion, the misery of

> arthritis is caused by hard water saturated with inorganic minerals and an

> unbalanced diet, forming acid crystals in the moveable joints, plus

> inactivity of the body in general. "

> *Dr. E. Banik, M.D.*, who spent much of his life researching the effects

> of water on the human body reported the following in his publication The

> Choice Is Clear:

>

> " The only minerals that the body can utilize are the organic minerals. All

> other types of minerals are foreign substances to the body and must be

> eliminated. Distilled water is the only water that can be taken into the

> body without damage to the tissues. "

> *The American Medical Association* reported that, " The body's need for

> minerals is largely met through foods, not drinking water. "

> *Dr. Bragg, N.D., Ph.D.*

>

> " The greatest damage done by inorganic minerals - plus waxy cholesterol and

> salt - is to the small arteries and other blood vessels of the brain (75%

> water). Hardening of the arteries and calcification of blood vessels starts

> on the day you start taking inorganic chemicals and minerals from the tap

> water into your bodies. " The Shocking Truth About Water

> * F. Balch, M.D. & Phyllis A. Balch, C.N.C.*

>

> " Distillation involves the process of vaporizing water by boiling it. The

> steam rises, leaving behind most bacteria, viruses, chemicals, minerals, and

> pollutants from the water. The steam is then moved into a condensing chamber

> where it is cooled and condensed to become distilled water . . . We believe

> that only steam-distilled water should be consumed. " Prescription for

> Nutritional Healing

> * A. Lodewick, M.D.*

>

> " The only type of water that seems to be fit for consumption is distilled

> water, which is water that is absolutely free of any minerals or chemicals.

> Distilled water is made pure by first being heated to the point of

> vaporization, so that all of the 'impurities' are left behind. Then, the

> water vapor is condensed. The process results in water that is in its purest

> form. Distillation is the single most effective method of water

> purification. " A Diabetic Doctor Looks at Diabetes

>

July 21, 2000

Is it just me, or does this whole distilled water thing simply not

make sense?

Maybe distilled water can be helpful for people who are seriously ill,

but

much of what I've been reading from the 'professionals' seems to apply

to all human beings, e.g. Lynea's quote: " distilled water removes

inorganic

mineral substances that are incompatible with our cells and would

otherwise

accumulate as debris in our bodies " . Apparently these inorganic

mineral

substances come from 'regular' water. My question is: how come, after

thousands

of years, it is not suitable for homo sapiens to drink ordinary water?

Not sure whether I'm being coherent here -- having a bad day!

All the best

Chris

Coventry, UK

July 21, 2000

Ok, I'm coming out of the woodwork briefly on this one....

Given a choice between Clean Spring / Filtered (non-hard) Well Water and

Distilled Water, I would go for the first

Given a choice between double or tripled " City water " (with both mineral and

organics (activated charcoal)) and Distilled Water, I would go for the

filtered...

Given a choice between Bottled Spring in Plastic and distilled water in

glass: I would go for water in glass...

The base reason is that 'truly natural water' is what our systems can handle

best - water polluated by:

plastic off-gassing

chlorine, florine

high mineral concentrations (hard water)

residue chemicals

devoid of any minerals and aeration (distilled water)

are not easy on the body.....

Using the top end of Pur (or equivalent) filters on a suitable water source

is where we are at. Our water source is our own 300' deep well that is feed from

the Olympic mountains (Pacific West Coast) - the water is a little hard, so we

soften it and then filter it.

I know that I've added some additional factors with this email (like - is the

water in plastic?)

M Lassesen, M.S.

ex " Dr.Gui (MSDN) " , " Dr. VB "

cv: http://www.folkarts.com/kenl/ KenL@...

Phone: 360 297.4717 Cell: 360 509.8970 Fax 520 832.6836

RE: Re: Distilled Water

Is it just me, or does this whole distilled water thing simply not

make sense?

Maybe distilled water can be helpful for people who are seriously ill,

but

much of what I've been reading from the 'professionals' seems to apply

to all human beings, e.g. Lynea's quote: " distilled water removes

inorganic

mineral substances that are incompatible with our cells and would

otherwise

accumulate as debris in our bodies " . Apparently these inorganic

mineral

substances come from 'regular' water. My question is: how come, after

thousands

of years, it is not suitable for homo sapiens to drink ordinary water?

Not sure whether I'm being coherent here -- having a bad day!

All the best

Chris

Coventry, UK

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July 21, 2000

I have no problem with people drinking distilled water, so long as

they are making sure they are getting enough of the the essential

minerals, such as by taking a product such as Sparx

(www.krysalis-sparx.com). (I am not financially involved with this

product, but I do take it, and I think it has a good set of

minerals, as well as vitamins and other beneficial nutrients. I

would especially emphasize magnesium selenium, and zinc in CFS, but

we all need all the essential minerals.

Rich

> Ok, I'm coming out of the woodwork briefly on this one....

> Given a choice between Clean Spring / Filtered (non-hard) Well

Water and Distilled Water, I would go for the first

> Given a choice between double or tripled " City water " (with

both

mineral and organics (activated charcoal)) and Distilled Water, I

would go for the filtered...

> Given a choice between Bottled Spring in Plastic and distilled

water in glass: I would go for water in glass...

>

> The base reason is that 'truly natural water' is what our systems

can handle best - water polluated by:

> plastic off-gassing

> chlorine, florine

> high mineral concentrations (hard water)

> residue chemicals

> devoid of any minerals and aeration (distilled water)

> are not easy on the body.....

> Using the top end of Pur (or equivalent) filters on a suitable

water source is where we are at. Our water source is our own 300'

deep

well that is feed from the Olympic mountains (Pacific West Coast) -

the water is a little hard, so we soften it and then filter it.

> I know that I've added some additional factors with this email

(like

- is the water in plastic?)

>

> M Lassesen, M.S.

> ex " Dr.Gui (MSDN) " , " Dr. VB "

> cv: http://www.folkarts.com/kenl/ KenL@e...

> Phone: 360 297.4717 Cell: 360 509.8970 Fax 520 832.6836

> RE: Re: Distilled Water

>

> Is it just me, or does this whole distilled water thing simply not

> make sense?

> Maybe distilled water can be helpful for people who are seriously

ill,

> but

> much of what I've been reading from the 'professionals' seems to

apply

> to all human beings, e.g. Lynea's quote: " distilled water removes

> inorganic

> mineral substances that are incompatible with our cells and would

> otherwise

> accumulate as debris in our bodies " . Apparently these inorganic

> mineral

> substances come from 'regular' water. My question is: how come,

after

> thousands

> of years, it is not suitable for homo sapiens to drink ordinary

water?

>

> Not sure whether I'm being coherent here -- having a bad day!

>

> All the best

>

> Chris

> Coventry, UK

>

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July 22, 2000

on 7/21/00 5:54 AM, Rowbury at chris.rowbury@... wrote:

>My question is: how come, after thousands of years, it is not suitable for

> homo sapiens to drink ordinary water? Not sure whether I'm being coherent here

> -- having a bad day!

Hi

My answer to your question:

It's not suitable for homo sapines to drink ordinary water for the same

reason it's not suitable for us to store our meat/perishables anywhere but

the fridge. IOW people survived for millions of years without refrigerators

but now that we know it's beneficial to health to store perishables in the

refrigerator, it has become standard practice. The same holds true for air

purifiers and eyeglasses. We lived for millenia without them, but we're

better off with them.

Hud

September 20, 2000

I use either distilled or purified water. Steve B.

Distilled Water

>

> Some on this list have said Dr Cheney recommends distilled water for

> mixing whey protein. I've read both positive and negative things about

> distilled water. Some have said is is quite acid and will pull minerals

> out of your body plus contribute to an acidic tissue pH. Others have

> said it will only pull out inorganic minerals and thus works as a form

> of chelation. I don't know what to think. I was wondering if someels

> more knowledgable on this list could comment.

>

> Phil

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

June 22, 2004

Distilled takes out all the minerals that are in the water that boiling doesn't

remove. HTH!

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which thinks for you, but the one

which makes you think.

distilled water

I was asked what the difference would be when using distilled water

or regular tap (boiling both to kill bacteria first) to make lotion?

I did not know the answer. So why do we use distilled?

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June 23, 2004

I was asked what the difference would be when using distilled water

> or regular tap (boiling both to kill bacteria first) to make

lotion? I did not know the answer. So why do we use distilled?

> Charmaine

The difference is that there are minerals and metal ions in the tap

water, as well as chlorine if city water, which can react with other

ingredients in soap base or toiletry bases causing a chemical

reaction that is not desireable.

Distilled water, has all the minerals and metal ions extracted from

the water so there is no adverse reaction when making products.

hth

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September 6, 2004

Hi Debbie,

Some folks claim Distilled Water is the only water they will use for Kombucha others say it isn't as good.

Guess it is your call:-))

Peace, Love and Harmony,

Bev

September 6, 2004

Well, it'd save me from lots of boiling so I may give it a try.

Thanks

Debbie K.

-----Original Message-----From: *~ OM ~* [mailto:OM@...] Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 10:49 AMkombucha tea Subject: re: Distilled Water

September 6, 2004

> Hi Debbie,

>

> Some folks claim Distilled Water is the only water they will use for

> Kombucha others say it isn't as good.

>

> Guess it is your call:-))

>

> Peace, Love and Harmony,

> Bev

I always use distilled water

November 16, 2004

Distilled water versus say muddy water.

Define the function of water in our body.

Drink distilled water. Goes into the stomach. Yes, Leeches valuable minerals

from the stomach and carries those minerals into the cells. [if those

minerals don't catch a ride out of the stomach they go out through the stool

as waste]. Distilled water now heavily laded with freshly leeched minerals

goes into our system. Homeostasis. Exchange those minerals for cellular

waste products. Distilled water leeches again!. Yes. This is the purpose.

Cellular waste product have to be eliminated. Expelled normally through the

urine and stool. When weaken those waste products are expelled through the

skin as sweat and gases. When those waste products are not expelled they

become trapped in the body and become what is called cancers.

These medical rocket scientist do not have a problem (no warnings) on

drinking tap water! What is tap water but distilled water that has been

laden with a bunch of stuff. That stuff means more water will be required to

carry the same amount of stuff in/out of the body. BTW, there are no health

requirements for bottled water. Mold will grow in standing water.

Recent studies (JAMA) have found that chlorine (tap water) may react with

prescription drugs into deadly compounds.

Ask your doctor which glass of water is he going to wash his pills down with

?

hint: if he grabs the tap water get another doctor.

Distilled water for kombucha. Why?

less likely to combine and form something unknown

reduced risk of toxins and pesticides

greater capacity for the kombucha to utilize / metabolize those nutrients

(tea and sugar)

greater dispersion of nutrients to the kombucha.

more room for the kombucha to grow...

antibiotics work by dehydrating the intestinal flora. The kill-off is by the

billions. Luckily, or so the theory goes, we have more of the good guys than

there are of the bad guys. Who's left standing (hopefully) are the good

guys. So when you have an infection and you take the full course of

antibiotics the infection is gone. If you get a stomachache or end up with

digestive problems, heartburn etc., hey the doctor did his job - infection

gone. Now may be a good idea to " leech " all those dead bad guys away and

replace with some wholesome new flora. Like those provided by fermented

foods.

Its like breathing.... Good air in ... bad air out.

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist

Acupuncture is a jab well done

www.HappyHerbalist.com

November 16, 2004

I don't want to get into a debate over distilled water, but when I see the kind

of statements made here, I have to object, as they are simply unfounded, and

assumptions are made here that are totally unnecessary to make.......like that

our only choice is " distilled water or muddy water " . See my comments below,

marked with ~~~

Distilled water versus say muddy water.

~~~Why muddy? I don't drink distilled water OR muddy water.

Define the function of water in our body.

Drink distilled water. Goes into the stomach. Yes, Leeches valuable minerals

from the stomach and carries those minerals into the cells. [if those

minerals don't catch a ride out of the stomach they go out through the stool

as waste].

~~~Very untrue. I don't drink distilled water and I absorb those minerals from

my stomach very well. That is what our body is designed to do!

Distilled water now heavily laded with freshly leeched minerals

goes into our system. Homeostasis. Exchange those minerals for cellular

waste products.

~~~What proof do you have that distilled water performs such a feat?

Distilled water leeches again!. Yes. This is the purpose.

Cellular waste product have to be eliminated. Expelled normally through the

urine and stool. When weaken those waste products are expelled through the

skin as sweat and gases. When those waste products are not expelled they

become trapped in the body and become what is called cancers.

~~~Let's see some proof that distilled water does all this.

These medical rocket scientist do not have a problem (no warnings) on

drinking tap water!

~~~Again, not true. I just posted an article from the Mercola site yesterday,

and he is VERY against tap water AND distilled water!

What is tap water but distilled water that has been

laden with a bunch of stuff.

~~~Also not true. For heaven's sake. You act like distilled water is what our

water is before they treat it. It is not. Distilled water is not the natural

water that comes from aquifers, wells, springs or mountain streams AT ALL! The

water out of my tap is from an aquifer with no chemicals added, not even

chlorine, and full of minerals, totally unlike distilled water. It is routinely

tested and has always been safe to drink and full of minerals.

That stuff means more water will be required to

carry the same amount of stuff in/out of the body. BTW, there are no health

requirements for bottled water. Mold will grow in standing water.

~~~I don't drink bottled water or standing water. There are plenty of

alternatives to those. If I didn't have good mineral-rich tap water where I

lived, I could/would buy water filtered by reverse osmosis at the health food

store for 29 cents a gallon. (I provide the jugs and fill them myself.)

Recent studies (JAMA) have found that chlorine (tap water) may react with

prescription drugs into deadly compounds.

Ask your doctor which glass of water is he going to wash his pills down with

?

~~~Why assume tap water is the only alternative to distilled water? There are

better choices over both, if ones tap water contains chemicals.

hint: if he grabs the tap water get another doctor.

~~~I wouldn't advise asking the typical mainstream doctor about water.

Distilled water for kombucha. Why?

less likely to combine and form something unknown

reduced risk of toxins and pesticides

greater capacity for the kombucha to utilize / metabolize those nutrients

(tea and sugar)

greater dispersion of nutrients to the kombucha.

more room for the kombucha to grow...

~~~I simply do not believe that distilled water disperses anything. Again -

proof please. This reminds me of the people who claim pasteurized milk is

better than raw milk because there is less chance of contamination. Or that

Kombucha is not fit to drink because of contamination. What is wrong with

natural water, natural milk, natural fermentation? Distilled water is just

another instance of man fooling around with the natural. It goes through a

process, you know, to become distilled water. It's not at all natural.