Guest guest Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Would someone please explain to me about the procedure for investigating lumps in the thyroid that involves putting radiactive iodine in to the body? I know it's not a good thing to get done but wanted some more information, plus alternative options, to pass on to someone who is getting it done. She has a lump 4cm by 3cm in her thyroid which sounds huge so I'm wondering if it's more likely to be mm, or does the cm measurement sound right? Also, they cannot be around children or pregnant women for 24 hours after the procedure??? Do you emit radiation from your body for a period of time afterwards?Thank-you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 If I were you , I would google to find the answers. Our Iodine Group here is about using natural iodine such as Lugol's in solution form or Iodoral tablets. Kind regards, Kathleen radioactive iodine Would someone please explain to me about the procedure for investigating lumps in the thyroid that involves putting radiactive iodine in to the body? I know it's not a good thing to get done but wanted some more information, plus alternative options, to pass on to someone who is getting it done. She has a lump 4cm by 3cm in her thyroid which sounds huge so I'm wondering if it's more likely to be mm, or does the cm measurement sound right? Also, they cannot be around children or pregnant women for 24 hours after the procedure??? Do you emit radiation from your body for a period of time afterwards? Thank-you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 There isn't much to it. You ingest a small amount of I-123 (sometimes I-131) and then 24 hrs later they bring you in and scan your neck looking for "uptake" into the thyroid. The test depends on the person being iodine deficient because if you were fully saturated with non-radioactive form of iodine as you should be (thyroid holds 50 mgs of inorganic non-radioactive iodine) the test wouldn't show any uptake at all. The radioactive iodine enters the cells of the thyroid and they are able to tell if nodules are hot (high in blood flow - potentially cancerous) or cold (low in blood flow or no blood flow - benign). I had this test done when my son was 4 mos old. I wasn't given many instructions other than I had to pump and dump breast milk for 36 hours as the I-123 has a 1/2 life of 36 hrs. I was not told I couldn't be by my child and he slept on my shoulder that day after being given the pill. He is hypothyroid (age 12 and on 2 1/4 gr Nature-throid). There isn't a day I don't wonder if I damaged his thyroid by exposing him to 4 scans and 3 RAI ablations. My daughter is also hypothyroid (9 yrs and on 2 grs) and my husband has hashimotos. Most doctors tell you there is no risk with a scanning dose. I disagree. Buist, ND HC radioactive iodine Would someone please explain to me about the procedure for investigating lumps in the thyroid that involves putting radiactive iodine in to the body? I know it's not a good thing to get done but wanted some more information, plus alternative options, to pass on to someone who is getting it done. She has a lump 4cm by 3cm in her thyroid which sounds huge so I'm wondering if it's more likely to be mm, or does the cm measurement sound right? Also, they cannot be around children or pregnant women for 24 hours after the procedure??? Do you emit radiation from your body for a period of time afterwards? Thank-you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 It sounds like your friend is having a RadioActive iodine uptake test to test her thyroid function. This is done with RadioActive iodine 123 as opposed to 131 (which they use to kill of the thyroid and any thyroid cells) Depending on the absorbtion is whether a person has thyroiditis or Graves disease. Usually a biopsy is used to identify a thyroid lump and/or the need for surgery. RadioActive iodine in any form is toxic please have your friend read up on it. http://atomicwomen.org/ If this were me I would refuse it. The side effects are not worth it. Yes, you are radioactive after treatment. Another good group for thyroid questions is thyroidless > > Would someone please explain to me about the procedure for investigating > lumps in the thyroid that involves putting radiactive iodine in to the > body? > > I know it's not a good thing to get done but wanted some more information, > plus alternative options, to pass on to someone who is getting it done. > She has a lump 4cm by 3cm in her thyroid which sounds huge so I'm wondering > if it's more likely to be mm, or does the cm measurement sound right? > > Also, they cannot be around children or pregnant women for 24 hours after > the procedure??? Do you emit radiation from your body for a period of > time afterwards? > > Thank-you, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Hi Steph,Thanks for this. How awful that you were not warned. I've read a little bit of the mainstream literature and some of it says no more than two hours close contact for 11 days. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:29 AM, ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...> wrote: There isn't much to it. You ingest a small amount of I-123 (sometimes I-131) and then 24 hrs later they bring you in and scan your neck looking for " uptake " into the thyroid. The test depends on the person being iodine deficient because if you were fully saturated with non-radioactive form of iodine as you should be (thyroid holds 50 mgs of inorganic non-radioactive iodine) the test wouldn't show any uptake at all. The radioactive iodine enters the cells of the thyroid and they are able to tell if nodules are hot (high in blood flow - potentially cancerous) or cold (low in blood flow or no blood flow - benign). I had this test done when my son was 4 mos old. I wasn't given many instructions other than I had to pump and dump breast milk for 36 hours as the I-123 has a 1/2 life of 36 hrs. I was not told I couldn't be by my child and he slept on my shoulder that day after being given the pill. He is hypothyroid (age 12 and on 2 1/4 gr Nature-throid). There isn't a day I don't wonder if I damaged his thyroid by exposing him to 4 scans and 3 RAI ablations. My daughter is also hypothyroid (9 yrs and on 2 grs) and my husband has hashimotos. Most doctors tell you there is no risk with a scanning dose. I disagree. Buist, ND HC radioactive iodine Would someone please explain to me about the procedure for investigating lumps in the thyroid that involves putting radiactive iodine in to the body? I know it's not a good thing to get done but wanted some more information, plus alternative options, to pass on to someone who is getting it done. She has a lump 4cm by 3cm in her thyroid which sounds huge so I'm wondering if it's more likely to be mm, or does the cm measurement sound right? Also, they cannot be around children or pregnant women for 24 hours after the procedure??? Do you emit radiation from your body for a period of time afterwards? Thank-you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 That warning is for I-131 which is the ablation radioactive iodine. It has a 1/2 life of 8 days. I-123 which is used for scanning has a 1/2 life of 36 hrs (1 1/2 days). Buist, ND HC radioactive iodine Would someone please explain to me about the procedure for investigating lumps in the thyroid that involves putting radiactive iodine in to the body? I know it's not a good thing to get done but wanted some more information, plus alternative options, to pass on to someone who is getting it done. She has a lump 4cm by 3cm in her thyroid which sounds huge so I'm wondering if it's more likely to be mm, or does the cm measurement sound right? Also, they cannot be around children or pregnant women for 24 hours after the procedure??? Do you emit radiation from your body for a period of time afterwards? Thank-you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 If there wasn't a risk, then why would they tell you to stay away from others after having it done. i know when my daughter as an infant had isotopes for kidney scans, they took her diaper to dispose of it in an appropriate manner. if it isn't risky, then why worry about how the diaper would be thrown away? with that little bit of isotopes... my daughter is 25 now but she has issues of not feeling well, and stomach issues. i don't know. i wonder if i did right or wrong. diane, near philly, pa On Dec 1, 2011, at 7:29 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote: There isn't much to it. You ingest a small amount of I-123 (sometimes I-131) and then 24 hrs later they bring you in and scan your neck looking for "uptake" into the thyroid. The test depends on the person being iodine deficient because if you were fully saturated with non-radioactive form of iodine as you should be (thyroid holds 50 mgs of inorganic non-radioactive iodine) the test wouldn't show any uptake at all. The radioactive iodine enters the cells of the thyroid and they are able to tell if nodules are hot (high in blood flow - potentially cancerous) or cold (low in blood flow or no blood flow - benign). I had this test done when my son was 4 mos old. I wasn't given many instructions other than I had to pump and dump breast milk for 36 hours as the I-123 has a 1/2 life of 36 hrs. I was not told I couldn't be by my child and he slept on my shoulder that day after being given the pill. He is hypothyroid (age 12 and on 2 1/4 gr Nature-throid). There isn't a day I don't wonder if I damaged his thyroid by exposing him to 4 scans and 3 RAI ablations. My daughter is also hypothyroid (9 yrs and on 2 grs) and my husband has hashimotos. Most doctors tell you there is no risk with a scanning dose. I disagree. Buist, ND HC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 It is risky. Just I131 is worse than I123. Buist, ND HC Re: radioactive iodine If there wasn't a risk, then why would they tell you to stay away from others after having it done. i know when my daughter as an infant had isotopes for kidney scans, they took her diaper to dispose of it in an appropriate manner. if it isn't risky, then why worry about how the diaper would be thrown away? with that little bit of isotopes... my daughter is 25 now but she has issues of not feeling well, and stomach issues. i don't know. i wonder if i did right or wrong. diane, near philly, pa On Dec 1, 2011, at 7:29 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote: There isn't much to it. You ingest a small amount of I-123 (sometimes I-131) and then 24 hrs later they bring you in and scan your neck looking for "uptake" into the thyroid. The test depends on the person being iodine deficient because if you were fully saturated with non-radioactive form of iodine as you should be (thyroid holds 50 mgs of inorganic non-radioactive iodine) the test wouldn't show any uptake at all. The radioactive iodine enters the cells of the thyroid and they are able to tell if nodules are hot (high in blood flow - potentially cancerous) or cold (low in blood flow or no blood flow - benign). I had this test done when my son was 4 mos old. I wasn't given many instructions other than I had to pump and dump breast milk for 36 hours as the I-123 has a 1/2 life of 36 hrs. I was not told I couldn't be by my child and he slept on my shoulder that day after being given the pill. He is hypothyroid (age 12 and on 2 1/4 gr Nature-throid). There isn't a day I don't wonder if I damaged his thyroid by exposing him to 4 scans and 3 RAI ablations. My daughter is also hypothyroid (9 yrs and on 2 grs) and my husband has hashimotos. Most doctors tell you th! ere is no risk with a scanning dose. I disagree. Buist, ND HC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Plus, thermography can determine if an area is hot (blood vessel development and therefore malignant) or cold (benign)-- that's how it works. But typical Western medicine, expensive poison must be better than noninvasive lowcost. wrong. -- On 1 Dec 2011 at 22:01, ladybugsandbees wrote: > > > > It is risky. Just I131 is worse than I123. > > Buist, ND HC > > > Re: radioactive iodine > > > If there wasn't a risk, then why would they tell you to stay away from > others after having it done. i know when my daughter as an infant had > isotopes for kidney scans, they took her diaper to dispose of it in an > appropriate manner. if it isn't risky, then why worry about how the > diaper would be thrown away? with that little bit of isotopes... my > daughter is 25 now but she has issues of not feeling well, and stomach > issues. i don't know. i wonder if i did right or wrong. diane, near > philly, pa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 1, 2011, at 7:29 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote: > > > > There isn't much to it. You ingest a small amount of I-123 (sometimes > I-131) and then 24 hrs later they bring you in and scan your neck > looking for " uptake " into the thyroid. The test depends on the person > being iodine deficient because if you were fully saturated with > non-radioactive form of iodine as you should be (thyroid holds 50 mgs > of inorganic non-radioactive iodine) the test wouldn't show any uptake > at all. The radioactive iodine enters the cells of the thyroid and > they are able to tell if nodules are hot (high in blood flow - > potentially cancerous) or cold (low in blood flow or no blood flow - > benign). > > I had this test done when my son was 4 mos old. I wasn't given many > instructions other than I had to pump and dump breast milk for 36 > hours as the I-123 has a 1/2 life of 36 hrs. I was not told I couldn't > be by my child and he slept on my shoulder that day after being given > the pill. He is hypothyroid (age 12 and on 2 1/4 gr Nature-throid). > There isn't a day I don't wonder if I damaged his thyroid by exposing > him to 4 scans and 3 RAI ablations. My daughter is also hypothyroid (9 > yrs and on 2 grs) and my husband has hashimotos. Most doctors tell you > th! ere is no risk with a scanning dose. I disagree. > > Buist, ND HC > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 She was told that the only other option was a biopsy but that biopsy's are not accurate because they only tell you something about the piece that is extracted e.g. even if it is benign some of the rest of the lump might be malignant. Which sounded strange to me - I thought either a lump would all test malignant or all test benign, but then I don't know. Thanks very much for all the information.On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Baker <vbaker@...> wrote: Plus, thermography can determine if an area is hot (blood vessel development and therefore malignant) or cold (benign)-- that's how it works. But typical Western medicine, expensive poison must be better than noninvasive lowcost. wrong. -- On 1 Dec 2011 at 22:01, ladybugsandbees wrote: > > > > It is risky. Just I131 is worse than I123. > > Buist, ND HC > > > Re: radioactive iodine > > > If there wasn't a risk, then why would they tell you to stay away from > others after having it done. i know when my daughter as an infant had > isotopes for kidney scans, they took her diaper to dispose of it in an > appropriate manner. if it isn't risky, then why worry about how the > diaper would be thrown away? with that little bit of isotopes... my > daughter is 25 now but she has issues of not feeling well, and stomach > issues. i don't know. i wonder if i did right or wrong. diane, near > philly, pa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 1, 2011, at 7:29 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote: > > > > There isn't much to it. You ingest a small amount of I-123 (sometimes > I-131) and then 24 hrs later they bring you in and scan your neck > looking for " uptake " into the thyroid. The test depends on the person > being iodine deficient because if you were fully saturated with > non-radioactive form of iodine as you should be (thyroid holds 50 mgs > of inorganic non-radioactive iodine) the test wouldn't show any uptake > at all. The radioactive iodine enters the cells of the thyroid and > they are able to tell if nodules are hot (high in blood flow - > potentially cancerous) or cold (low in blood flow or no blood flow - > benign). > > I had this test done when my son was 4 mos old. I wasn't given many > instructions other than I had to pump and dump breast milk for 36 > hours as the I-123 has a 1/2 life of 36 hrs. I was not told I couldn't > be by my child and he slept on my shoulder that day after being given > the pill. He is hypothyroid (age 12 and on 2 1/4 gr Nature-throid). > There isn't a day I don't wonder if I damaged his thyroid by exposing > him to 4 scans and 3 RAI ablations. My daughter is also hypothyroid (9 > yrs and on 2 grs) and my husband has hashimotos. Most doctors tell you > th! ere is no risk with a scanning dose. I disagree. > > Buist, ND HC > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 I had a fine needle aspiration and my results were "Abnormal Follicular Cells" - but not cancer. When they went in for surgery to remove 1/2 "Just to be sure" they found out that it was "Papillary Thyroid Cancer" which are two different dx. So yes it is possible to have a negative dx and still have cancer. Buist ND HC Re: radioactive iodine> > > If there wasn't a risk, then why would they tell you to stay away from> others after having it done. i know when my daughter as an infant had> isotopes for kidney scans, they took her diaper to dispose of it in an> appropriate manner. if it isn't risky, then why worry about how the> diaper would be thrown away? with that little bit of isotopes... my> daughter is 25 now but she has issues of not feeling well, and stomach> issues. i don't know. i wonder if i did right or wrong. diane, near> philly, pa> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 1, 2011, at 7:29 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote:> > > > There isn't much to it. You ingest a small amount of I-123 (sometimes> I-131) and then 24 hrs later they bring you in and scan your neck> looking for "uptake" into the thyroid. The test depends on the person> being iodine deficient because if you were fully saturated with> non-radioactive form of iodine as you should be (thyroid holds 50 mgs> of inorganic non-radioactive iodine) the test wouldn't show any uptake> at all. The radioactive iodine enters the cells of the thyroid and> they are able to tell if nodules are hot (high in blood flow -> potentially cancerous) or cold (low in blood flow or no blood flow -> benign). > > I had this test done when my son was 4 mos old. I wasn't given many> instructions other than I had to pump and dump breast milk for 36> hours as the I-123 has a 1/2 life of 36 hrs. I was not told I couldn't> be by my child and he slept on my shoulder that day after being given> the pill. He is hypothyroid (age 12 and on 2 1/4 gr Nature-throid).> There isn't a day I don't wonder if I damaged his thyroid by exposing> him to 4 scans and 3 RAI ablations. My daughter is also hypothyroid (9> yrs and on 2 grs) and my husband has hashimotos. Most doctors tell you> th! ere is no risk with a scanning dose. I disagree.> > Buist, ND HC> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 insurance companies sometimes don't cover thermography.. it is a racket. diane, near philly, pa On Dec 1, 2011, at 11:22 PM, Baker wrote: Plus, thermography can determine if an area is hot (blood vessel development and therefore malignant) or cold (benign)-- that's how it works. But typical Western medicine, expensive poison must be better than noninvasive lowcost. wrong. -- On 1 Dec 2011 at 22:01, ladybugsandbees wrote: > > > > It is risky. Just I131 is worse than I123. > > Buist, ND HC > > > Re: radioactive iodine > > > If there wasn't a risk, then why would they tell you to stay away from > others after having it done. i know when my daughter as an infant had > isotopes for kidney scans, they took her diaper to dispose of it in an > appropriate manner. if it isn't risky, then why worry about how the > diaper would be thrown away? with that little bit of isotopes... my > daughter is 25 now but she has issues of not feeling well, and stomach > issues. i don't know. i wonder if i did right or wrong. diane, near > philly, pa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 1, 2011, at 7:29 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote: > > > > There isn't much to it. You ingest a small amount of I-123 (sometimes > I-131) and then 24 hrs later they bring you in and scan your neck > looking for "uptake" into the thyroid. The test depends on the person > being iodine deficient because if you were fully saturated with > non-radioactive form of iodine as you should be (thyroid holds 50 mgs > of inorganic non-radioactive iodine) the test wouldn't show any uptake > at all. The radioactive iodine enters the cells of the thyroid and > they are able to tell if nodules are hot (high in blood flow - > potentially cancerous) or cold (low in blood flow or no blood flow - > benign). > > I had this test done when my son was 4 mos old. I wasn't given many > instructions other than I had to pump and dump breast milk for 36 > hours as the I-123 has a 1/2 life of 36 hrs. I was not told I couldn't > be by my child and he slept on my shoulder that day after being given > the pill. He is hypothyroid (age 12 and on 2 1/4 gr Nature-throid). > There isn't a day I don't wonder if I damaged his thyroid by exposing > him to 4 scans and 3 RAI ablations. My daughter is also hypothyroid (9 > yrs and on 2 grs) and my husband has hashimotos. Most doctors tell you > th! ere is no risk with a scanning dose. I disagree. > > Buist, ND HC > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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