Re: Got thrown for a loop

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GOOD FOR YOU FOR WALKING OUT!

My only advice? Look for a functional med doctor.. Imagine going thru life as

a DR who doesn't want to learn any more? HMMM?

>

> Hi everyone,

> I don't post here often, but I have an update for anyone interested.

> I've been a subscriber almost 4 years. I've tried so many things to

> ditch the fatigue since breast cancer treatments in 05 that I doubt I

> could list them all. I'd say I finally got on board with the protocol,

> done properly most of the time with all the companion nutrients, since

> July 2009. Two loading tests have shown lousy iodine absorption and one

> bromide test clocked in at 32.

>

> I'm still sluggish and want so much to ramp up to full throttle. My

> detox symptoms mainly are fatigue, fairly stinky armpits just hours

> after bathing. I haven't been to a doctor since 2008. I've cleaned up

> my diet, take a slew of supplements to the point where I needed some

> labs to see where I'm at.

>

> I ordered a bunch of tests from directlabs in August. The only three

> things out of range were TSH at 5.9 (.45 to 4.5), LDL 142 (0-99), total

> cholesterol 228 (100-199) with a ratio of total/hdl at 3.3. My free T3

> and free T4 were smack dab in the middle. TPO antibodies 8 (0-34),

> Antithyroglobulin Ab less than 20 (0-40).

>

> I want SO much to coax my thyroid into gear without a scrip, but being 6

> years out from treatment now, I am SO tired of being tired that I

> decided to try a doctor one more time. I decided a scrip for

> naturethroid is the next thing I'd like to try. This time I picked an

> osteopath.

>

> In the past, I've never been formally dx'd as hypothyroid (thanks for

> nothing during those 2 years, my former MD's). So today I went in with

> my recent lab printouts, my cancer treatment medical records, and five

> different books that give lists of hypothyroid symptoms. ...and a

> shopping bag full of all the supplements I take.

>

> All that preparation to do battle over a hypothyroid dx, and he was

> agreeable on that front right away. That was great, but I was

> unprepared for what came next. First thing he offers is synthroid. I

> expressed interest in naturethroid. He said Armour is the only other

> thyroid med he's familiar with. I said I'd prefer naturethroid. He

> said he isn't comfortable prescribing it because he doesn't know

> anything about it. I suggested that he has the option of changing

> that. He said he's comfortable with what he already does and he's not

> comfortable in prescribing naturethroid. So I said I'm not comfortable

> in accepting what he has to offer.

>

> At that point I wavered. I could get a scrip for armour from this man.

> But I knew this was someone I'm not likely to ever visit again. And I'm

> stubborn. I didn't want to settle for less. But refusing to settle

> means walking away with nothing instead of something, and I really

> wonder about my brain function when I look back in hindsight. I asked

> if I would be charged for the visit if I decline what he has to offer,

> and he said I could walk out with no charge. So that's what I did.

> This is not the first time I've encountered medical professionals who

> literally admit to being unfamiliar with something in their own field

> and then making it crystal clear that they plan on sticking with what is

> already familiar.

>

> To wrap up and make this rambling on topic, I'm wondering if I would

> benefit from taking even more iodine. Most of the time I take 100

> mg/day. The iodine protocol is one thing I've stuck with for a long

> time while a slew of supplements have come and gone over the years. I

> also drink simple herb infusions every day: nettles, oatstraw and red

> clover on a rotation. I credit some stellar labs to doing a whole bunch

> of things consistently over time. I just really thought I'd have this

> sluggishness kicked to the curb by now and I don't. I feel like I'm on

> the right path, but dang, life is finite on this planet and I need to

> get more out of my days. I'm open to suggestions.

> Jana in south Texas

>

[Guest guest]

I take Naturethroid myself. It is simply one of the generics for Armour. I prefer it over Armour, mainly because it is so dirt cheap. One suggestion I have is maybe you could call every pharmacy and ask them which doctors in the area are prescribing natural thyroid. Then call those doctors offices and ask if the doctor is willing to prescribe Naturethroid. I had to educate my doctor a little bit and I had to get the local pharmacy to order it. It may be helpful for you to go to the Naturethroid, Westhroid (that's another generic made by the same company) website. I think the company name is RLC Labs. They list all the dosages they manufacture and how to translate milligrams of Synthroid into grains of natural porcine thyroid. I can't remember if they have a way for you to

find their list of doctors or not. I think that's why lots of doctors don't want to prescribe the natural. They are not familiar with grains and it makes them feel stupid. My doctor is Dr. Albert Friday at the Van Horn Rural Health Clinic in Van Horn, Texas 79855 (432-283-1020). Taking thyroid replacement is not the same as blood pressure medicine and other medicines. To me, it seems more like a supplement because it is something you are deficient in. Having been treated for breast cancer, your thyroid and adrenals probably took a real beating. Good luck and feel free to contact me directly if I can be of more help. Blessings, Norine From: Jana <paintbrushcc@...> iodine Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 4:15 PM Subject: Got thrown for a loop

Hi everyone,

I don't post here often, but I have an update for anyone interested.

I've been a subscriber almost 4 years. I've tried so many things to

ditch the fatigue since breast cancer treatments in 05 that I doubt I

could list them all. I'd say I finally got on board with the protocol,

done properly most of the time with all the companion nutrients, since

July 2009. Two loading tests have shown lousy iodine absorption and one

bromide test clocked in at 32.

I'm still sluggish and want so much to ramp up to full throttle. My

detox symptoms mainly are fatigue, fairly stinky armpits just hours

after bathing. I haven't been to a doctor since 2008. I've cleaned up

my diet, take a slew of supplements to the point where I needed some

labs to see where I'm at.

I ordered a bunch of tests from directlabs in August. The only three

things out of range were TSH at 5.9 (.45 to 4.5), LDL 142 (0-99), total

cholesterol 228 (100-199) with a ratio of total/hdl at 3.3. My free T3

and free T4 were smack dab in the middle. TPO antibodies 8 (0-34),

Antithyroglobulin Ab less than 20 (0-40).

I want SO much to coax my thyroid into gear without a scrip, but being 6

years out from treatment now, I am SO tired of being tired that I

decided to try a doctor one more time. I decided a scrip for

naturethroid is the next thing I'd like to try. This time I picked an

osteopath.

In the past, I've never been formally dx'd as hypothyroid (thanks for

nothing during those 2 years, my former MD's). So today I went in with

my recent lab printouts, my cancer treatment medical records, and five

different books that give lists of hypothyroid symptoms. ...and a

shopping bag full of all the supplements I take.

All that preparation to do battle over a hypothyroid dx, and he was

agreeable on that front right away. That was great, but I was

unprepared for what came next. First thing he offers is synthroid. I

expressed interest in naturethroid. He said Armour is the only other

thyroid med he's familiar with. I said I'd prefer naturethroid. He

said he isn't comfortable prescribing it because he doesn't know

anything about it. I suggested that he has the option of changing

that. He said he's comfortable with what he already does and he's not

comfortable in prescribing naturethroid. So I said I'm not comfortable

in accepting what he has to offer.

At that point I wavered. I could get a scrip for armour from this man.

But I knew this was someone I'm not likely to ever visit again. And I'm

stubborn. I didn't want to settle for less. But refusing to settle

means walking away with nothing instead of something, and I really

wonder about my brain function when I look back in hindsight. I asked

if I would be charged for the visit if I decline what he has to offer,

and he said I could walk out with no charge. So that's what I did.

This is not the first time I've encountered medical professionals who

literally admit to being unfamiliar with something in their own field

and then making it crystal clear that they plan on sticking with what is

already familiar.

To wrap up and make this rambling on topic, I'm wondering if I would

benefit from taking even more iodine. Most of the time I take 100

mg/day. The iodine protocol is one thing I've stuck with for a long

time while a slew of supplements have come and gone over the years. I

also drink simple herb infusions every day: nettles, oatstraw and red

clover on a rotation. I credit some stellar labs to doing a whole bunch

of things consistently over time. I just really thought I'd have this

sluggishness kicked to the curb by now and I don't. I feel like I'm on

the right path, but dang, life is finite on this planet and I need to

get more out of my days. I'm open to suggestions.

Jana in south Texas

[Guest guest]



Just for the record, Naturethroid is not a generic form of Armour. Naturethroid is its own brand and is not considered generic.

Kind regards,

Kathleen

moderator

Got thrown for a loop

Hi everyone,I don't post here often, but I have an update for anyone interested. I've been a subscriber almost 4 years. I've tried so many things to ditch the fatigue since breast cancer treatments in 05 that I doubt I could list them all. I'd say I finally got on board with the protocol, done properly most of the time with all the companion nutrients, since July 2009. Two loading tests have shown lousy iodine absorption and one bromide test clocked in at 32.I'm still sluggish and want so much to ramp up to full throttle. My detox symptoms mainly are fatigue, fairly stinky armpits just hours after bathing. I haven't been to a doctor since 2008. I've cleaned up my diet, take a slew of supplements to the point where I needed some labs to see where I'm at.I ordered a bunch of tests from directlabs in August. The only three things out of range were TSH at 5.9 (.45 to 4.5), LDL 142 (0-99), total cholesterol 228 (100-199) with a ratio of total/hdl at 3.3. My free T3 and free T4 were smack dab in the middle. TPO antibodies 8 (0-34), Antithyroglobulin Ab less than 20 (0-40).I want SO much to coax my thyroid into gear without a scrip, but being 6 years out from treatment now, I am SO tired of being tired that I decided to try a doctor one more time. I decided a scrip for naturethroid is the next thing I'd like to try. This time I picked an osteopath.In the past, I've never been formally dx'd as hypothyroid (thanks for nothing during those 2 years, my former MD's). So today I went in with my recent lab printouts, my cancer treatment medical records, and five different books that give lists of hypothyroid symptoms. ...and a shopping bag full of all the supplements I take.All that preparation to do battle over a hypothyroid dx, and he was agreeable on that front right away. That was great, but I was unprepared for what came next. First thing he offers is synthroid. I expressed interest in naturethroid. He said Armour is the only other thyroid med he's familiar with. I said I'd prefer naturethroid. He said he isn't comfortable prescribing it because he doesn't know anything about it. I suggested that he has the option of changing that. He said he's comfortable with what he already does and he's not comfortable in prescribing naturethroid. So I said I'm not comfortable in accepting what he has to offer.At that point I wavered. I could get a scrip for armour from this man. But I knew this was someone I'm not likely to ever visit again. And I'm stubborn. I didn't want to settle for less. But refusing to settle means walking away with nothing instead of something, and I really wonder about my brain function when I look back in hindsight. I asked if I would be charged for the visit if I decline what he has to offer, and he said I could walk out with no charge. So that's what I did. This is not the first time I've encountered medical professionals who literally admit to being unfamiliar with something in their own field and then making it crystal clear that they plan on sticking with what is already familiar.To wrap up and make this rambling on topic, I'm wondering if I would benefit from taking even more iodine. Most of the time I take 100 mg/day. The iodine protocol is one thing I've stuck with for a long time while a slew of supplements have come and gone over the years. I also drink simple herb infusions every day: nettles, oatstraw and red clover on a rotation. I credit some stellar labs to doing a whole bunch of things consistently over time. I just really thought I'd have this sluggishness kicked to the curb by now and I don't. I feel like I'm on the right path, but dang, life is finite on this planet and I need to get more out of my days. I'm open to suggestions.Jana in south Texas

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi everyone,

> I don't post here often, but I have an update for anyone interested.

> I've been a subscriber almost 4 years. I've tried so many things to

> ditch the fatigue since breast cancer treatments in 05 that I doubt I

> could list them all. I'd say I finally got on board with the protocol,

> done properly most of the time with all the companion nutrients, since

> July 2009. Two loading tests have shown lousy iodine absorption and one

> bromide test clocked in at 32.

>

> I'm still sluggish and want so much to ramp up to full throttle. My

> detox symptoms mainly are fatigue, fairly stinky armpits just hours

> after bathing. I haven't been to a doctor since 2008. I've cleaned up

> my diet, take a slew of supplements to the point where I needed some

> labs to see where I'm at.

>

> I ordered a bunch of tests from directlabs in August. The only three

> things out of range were TSH at 5.9 (.45 to 4.5), LDL 142 (0-99), total

> cholesterol 228 (100-199) with a ratio of total/hdl at 3.3. My free T3

> and free T4 were smack dab in the middle. TPO antibodies 8 (0-34),

> Antithyroglobulin Ab less than 20 (0-40).

>

> I want SO much to coax my thyroid into gear without a scrip, but being 6

> years out from treatment now, I am SO tired of being tired that I

> decided to try a doctor one more time. I decided a scrip for

> naturethroid is the next thing I'd like to try. This time I picked an

> osteopath.

>

> In the past, I've never been formally dx'd as hypothyroid (thanks for

> nothing during those 2 years, my former MD's). So today I went in with

> my recent lab printouts, my cancer treatment medical records, and five

> different books that give lists of hypothyroid symptoms. ...and a

> shopping bag full of all the supplements I take.

>

> All that preparation to do battle over a hypothyroid dx, and he was

> agreeable on that front right away. That was great, but I was

> unprepared for what came next. First thing he offers is synthroid. I

> expressed interest in naturethroid. He said Armour is the only other

> thyroid med he's familiar with. I said I'd prefer naturethroid. He

> said he isn't comfortable prescribing it because he doesn't know

> anything about it. I suggested that he has the option of changing

> that. He said he's comfortable with what he already does and he's not

> comfortable in prescribing naturethroid. So I said I'm not comfortable

> in accepting what he has to offer.

>

> At that point I wavered. I could get a scrip for armour from this man.

> But I knew this was someone I'm not likely to ever visit again. And I'm

> stubborn. I didn't want to settle for less. But refusing to settle

> means walking away with nothing instead of something, and I really

> wonder about my brain function when I look back in hindsight. I asked

> if I would be charged for the visit if I decline what he has to offer,

> and he said I could walk out with no charge. So that's what I did.

> This is not the first time I've encountered medical professionals who

> literally admit to being unfamiliar with something in their own field

> and then making it crystal clear that they plan on sticking with what is

> already familiar.

>

> To wrap up and make this rambling on topic, I'm wondering if I would

> benefit from taking even more iodine. Most of the time I take 100

> mg/day. The iodine protocol is one thing I've stuck with for a long

> time while a slew of supplements have come and gone over the years. I

> also drink simple herb infusions every day: nettles, oatstraw and red

> clover on a rotation. I credit some stellar labs to doing a whole bunch

> of things consistently over time. I just really thought I'd have this

> sluggishness kicked to the curb by now and I don't. I feel like I'm on

> the right path, but dang, life is finite on this planet and I need to

> get more out of my days. I'm open to suggestions.

> Jana in south Texas

>

reply:

Jana, follow your stars. If you feel Nature-throid is what you need contact the

company and let them advise you. They have a toll-free number.

I wouldn't have any problem doing up to 300mg of iodine on a temporary basis if

I thought it would help me.

Life goes in cycles. We are not always at our peak or where we would like to be.

To have a positive attitude and to make the best of our situation is usually all

we can hope for.

Northern Nevada

[Guest guest]



Nature-throid IS NOT GENERIC for Armour. It is a Brand Name medication. There are no generic desiccated thyroid products on the market. There are several brand name:

Armour Thyroid - Forest Pharmaceutical

Nature-Throid - RLC Labs ( www.rlclabs.com - Westhroid is the veterinarian product (also NOT generic) but was subbed for Naturethroid during a shortage - it is the same product )

Thyroid NP - Acella

Thyroid - ERFA (Canada pharmacies only but will ship to US)

Buist, ND HC

Got thrown for a loop

Hi everyone,I don't post here often, but I have an update for anyone interested. I've been a subscriber almost 4 years. I've tried so many things to ditch the fatigue since breast cancer treatments in 05 that I doubt I could list them all. I'd say I finally got on board with the protocol, done properly most of the time with all the companion nutrients, since July 2009. Two loading tests have shown lousy iodine absorption and one bromide test clocked in at 32.I'm still sluggish and want so much to ramp up to full throttle. My detox symptoms mainly are fatigue, fairly stinky armpits just hours after bathing. I haven't been to a doctor since 2008. I've cleaned up my diet, take a slew of supplements to the point where I needed some labs to see where I'm at.I ordered a bunch of tests from directlabs in August. The only three things out of range were TSH at 5.9 (.45 to 4.5), LDL 142 (0-99), total cholesterol 228 (100-199) with a ratio of total/hdl at 3.3. My free T3 and free T4 were smack dab in the middle. TPO antibodies 8 (0-34), Antithyroglobulin Ab less than 20 (0-40).I want SO much to coax my thyroid into gear without a scrip, but being 6 years out from treatment now, I am SO tired of being tired that I decided to try a doctor one more time. I decided a scrip for naturethroid is the next thing I'd like to try. This time I picked an osteopath.In the past, I've never been formally dx'd as hypothyroid (thanks for nothing during those 2 years, my former MD's). So today I went in with my recent lab printouts, my cancer treatment medical records, and five different books that give lists of hypothyroid symptoms. ...and a shopping bag full of all the supplements I take.All that preparation to do battle over a hypothyroid dx, and he was agreeable on that front right away. That was great, but I was unprepared for what came next. First thing he offers is synthroid. I expressed interest in naturethroid. He said Armour is the only other thyroid med he's familiar with. I said I'd prefer naturethroid. He said he isn't comfortable prescribing it because he doesn't know anything about it. I suggested that he has the option of changing that. He said he's comfortable with what he already does and he's not comfortable in prescribing naturethroid. So I said I'm not comfortable in accepting what he has to offer.At that point I wavered. I could get a scrip for armour from this man. But I knew this was someone I'm not likely to ever visit again. And I'm stubborn. I didn't want to settle for less. But refusing to settle means walking away with nothing instead of something, and I really wonder about my brain function when I look back in hindsight. I asked if I would be charged for the visit if I decline what he has to offer, and he said I could walk out with no charge. So that's what I did. This is not the first time I've encountered medical professionals who literally admit to being unfamiliar with something in their own field and then making it crystal clear that they plan on sticking with what is already familiar.To wrap up and make this rambling on topic, I'm wondering if I would benefit from taking even more iodine. Most of the time I take 100 mg/day. The iodine protocol is one thing I've stuck with for a long time while a slew of supplements have come and gone over the years. I also drink simple herb infusions every day: nettles, oatstraw and red clover on a rotation. I credit some stellar labs to doing a whole bunch of things consistently over time. I just really thought I'd have this sluggishness kicked to the curb by now and I don't. I feel like I'm on the right path, but dang, life is finite on this planet and I need to get more out of my days. I'm open to suggestions.Jana in south Texas

[Guest guest]

Hi Jana,

I am about to start taking Ubiquinol. As it fuels the mitochondria I am hoping it will help my chronic fatigue.

Got thrown for a loop

Hi everyone,I don't post here often, but I have an update for anyone interested. I've been a subscriber almost 4 years. I've tried so many things to ditch the fatigue since breast cancer treatments in 05 that I doubt I could list them all. I'd say I finally got on board with the protocol, done properly most of the time with all the companion nutrients, since July 2009. Two loading tests have shown lousy iodine absorption and one bromide test clocked in at 32.I'm still sluggish and want so much to ramp up to full throttle. My detox symptoms mainly are fatigue, fairly stinky armpits just hours after bathing. I haven't been to a doctor since 2008. I've cleaned up my diet, take a slew of supplements to the point where I needed some labs to see where I'm at.I ordered a bunch of tests from directlabs in August. The only three things out of range were TSH at 5.9 (.45 to 4.5), LDL 142 (0-99), total cholesterol 228 (100-199) with a ratio of total/hdl at 3.3. My free T3 and free T4 were smack dab in the middle. TPO antibodies 8 (0-34), Antithyroglobulin Ab less than 20 (0-40).I want SO much to coax my thyroid into gear without a scrip, but being 6 years out from treatment now, I am SO tired of being tired that I decided to try a doctor one more time. I decided a scrip for naturethroid is the next thing I'd like to try. This time I picked an osteopath.In the past, I've never been formally dx'd as hypothyroid (thanks for nothing during those 2 years, my former MD's). So today I went in with my recent lab printouts, my cancer treatment medical records, and five different books that give lists of hypothyroid symptoms. ...and a shopping bag full of all the supplements I take.All that preparation to do battle over a hypothyroid dx, and he was agreeable on that front right away. That was great, but I was unprepared for what came next. First thing he offers is synthroid. I expressed interest in naturethroid. He said Armour is the only other thyroid med he's familiar with. I said I'd prefer naturethroid. He said he isn't comfortable prescribing it because he doesn't know anything about it. I suggested that he has the option of changing that. He said he's comfortable with what he already does and he's not comfortable in prescribing naturethroid. So I said I'm not comfortable in accepting what he has to offer.At that point I wavered. I could get a scrip for armour from this man. But I knew this was someone I'm not likely to ever visit again. And I'm stubborn. I didn't want to settle for less. But refusing to settle means walking away with nothing instead of something, and I really wonder about my brain function when I look back in hindsight. I asked if I would be charged for the visit if I decline what he has to offer, and he said I could walk out with no charge. So that's what I did. This is not the first time I've encountered medical professionals who literally admit to being unfamiliar with something in their own field and then making it crystal clear that they plan on sticking with what is already familiar.To wrap up and make this rambling on topic, I'm wondering if I would benefit from taking even more iodine. Most of the time I take 100 mg/day. The iodine protocol is one thing I've stuck with for a long time while a slew of supplements have come and gone over the years. I also drink simple herb infusions every day: nettles, oatstraw and red clover on a rotation. I credit some stellar labs to doing a whole bunch of things consistently over time. I just really thought I'd have this sluggishness kicked to the curb by now and I don't. I feel like I'm on the right path, but dang, life is finite on this planet and I need to get more out of my days. I'm open to suggestions.Jana in south Texas

[Guest guest]

Norine, there's only two compounding pharmacies in my city (which I

sometimes call the end of the earth even though it's nearly 300,000

population).  Both pharmacies did not know what naturethroid is, and

there's NO ONE locally I'm able to find that already prescribes it. 

I confirmed this today with by calling RLC labs directly.  The

nearest prescriber is in Harlingen, 100 miles away. 

Karey, thanks for the moral support.  I've tried looking for a

functional med doc.  They're not around here either that I can

find. 

fwiw, I do know that nutri-meds over the counter thyroid supplements

are helpful.  I take a higher dose than the package states.  I ran

out for three weeks last month and was tanking without them.  Got my

new supply this week and started feeling better right away. 

As I told the osteopath today, the supplements float my boat part of

the way, and I'd really like to know if naturethroid would float my

boat all the way.  It is so frustrating to not only have

non-iodine-literate doctors nearby, but to have doctors who flat out

refuse to learn something new, well, I'd have to start cursing to

express myself. 

Jana

On 12/7/2011 4:51 PM, Norine Donnelly wrote:

I take Naturethroid myself.  It is simply one of the

generics for Armour.  I prefer it over Armour, mainly

because it is so dirt cheap.  One suggestion I have is maybe

you could call every pharmacy and ask them which doctors in

the area are prescribing natural thyroid.  Then call those

doctors offices and ask if the doctor is willing to

prescribe Naturethroid.  I had to educate my doctor a little

bit and I had to get the local pharmacy to order it.  It may

be helpful for you to go to the Naturethroid, Westhroid

(that's another generic made by the same company) website.

 I think the company name is RLC Labs.  They list all the

dosages they manufacture and how to translate milligrams of

Synthroid into grains of natural porcine thyroid. I can't

remember if they have a way for you to find their list of

doctors or not.   I think that's why lots of doctors don't

want to prescribe the natural.  They are not familiar with

grains and it makes them feel stupid.  My doctor is Dr.

Albert Friday at the Van Horn Rural Health Clinic in Van

Horn, Texas 79855 (432-283-1020).  Taking thyroid

replacement is not the same as blood pressure medicine and

other medicines.  To me, it seems more like a supplement

because it is something you are deficient in.  Having been

treated for breast cancer, your thyroid and adrenals

probably took a real beating.  Good luck and feel free to

contact me directly if I can be of more help.  Blessings,

Norine

From:

Jana <paintbrushcc@...>

To:

iodine

Sent:

Wednesday, December 7, 2011 4:15 PM

Subject:

Got thrown for a loop

 

Hi everyone,

I don't post here often, but I have an update for

anyone interested.

I've been a subscriber almost 4 years. I've tried so

many things to

ditch the fatigue since breast cancer treatments in

05 that I doubt I

could list them all. I'd say I finally got on board

with the protocol,

done properly most of the time with all the

companion nutrients, since

July 2009. Two loading tests have shown lousy iodine

absorption and one

bromide test clocked in at 32.

I'm still sluggish and want so much to ramp up to

full throttle. My

detox symptoms mainly are fatigue, fairly stinky

armpits just hours

after bathing. I haven't been to a doctor since

2008. I've cleaned up

my diet, take a slew of supplements to the point

where I needed some

labs to see where I'm at.

I ordered a bunch of tests from directlabs in

August. The only three

things out of range were TSH at 5.9 (.45 to 4.5),

LDL 142 (0-99), total

cholesterol 228 (100-199) with a ratio of total/hdl

at 3.3. My free T3

and free T4 were smack dab in the middle. TPO

antibodies 8 (0-34),

Antithyroglobulin Ab less than 20 (0-40).

I want SO much to coax my thyroid into gear without

a scrip, but being 6

years out from treatment now, I am SO tired of being

tired that I

decided to try a doctor one more time. I decided a

scrip for

naturethroid is the next thing I'd like to try. This

time I picked an

osteopath.

In the past, I've never been formally dx'd as

hypothyroid (thanks for

nothing during those 2 years, my former MD's). So

today I went in with

my recent lab printouts, my cancer treatment medical

records, and five

different books that give lists of hypothyroid

symptoms. ...and a

shopping bag full of all the supplements I take.

All that preparation to do battle over a hypothyroid

dx, and he was

agreeable on that front right away. That was great,

but I was

unprepared for what came next. First thing he offers

is synthroid. I

expressed interest in naturethroid. He said Armour

is the only other

thyroid med he's familiar with. I said I'd prefer

naturethroid. He

said he isn't comfortable prescribing it because he

doesn't know

anything about it. I suggested that he has the

option of changing

that. He said he's comfortable with what he already

does and he's not

comfortable in prescribing naturethroid. So I said

I'm not comfortable

in accepting what he has to offer.

At that point I wavered. I could get a scrip for

armour from this man.

But I knew this was someone I'm not likely to ever

visit again. And I'm

stubborn. I didn't want to settle for less. But

refusing to settle

means walking away with nothing instead of

something, and I really

wonder about my brain function when I look back in

hindsight. I asked

if I would be charged for the visit if I decline

what he has to offer,

and he said I could walk out with no charge. So

that's what I did.

This is not the first time I've encountered medical

professionals who

literally admit to being unfamiliar with something

in their own field

and then making it crystal clear that they plan on

sticking with what is

already familiar.

To wrap up and make this rambling on topic, I'm

wondering if I would

benefit from taking even more iodine. Most of the

time I take 100

mg/day. The iodine protocol is one thing I've stuck

with for a long

time while a slew of supplements have come and gone

over the years. I

also drink simple herb infusions every day: nettles,

oatstraw and red

clover on a rotation. I credit some stellar labs to

doing a whole bunch

of things consistently over time. I just really

thought I'd have this

sluggishness kicked to the curb by now and I don't.

I feel like I'm on

the right path, but dang, life is finite on this

planet and I need to

get more out of my days. I'm open to suggestions.

Jana in south Texas

[Guest guest]

I agree you definitely need to get on some replacement thyroid. I am not sure more iodine will help any. While you are working on finding someone to prescribe the naturethroid (I am having a difficult time with it also) NutriMeds has desiccated porcine thyroid that you get without prescription and it may help you to feel better. Lora Price NDGot thrown for a loop Posted by: " Jana " paintbrushcc@... caryota2001 Wed Dec 7, 2011 2:15 pm (PST) Hi everyone,I don't post here often, but I have an update for anyone interested. I've been a subscriber almost 4 years. I've tried so many things to ditch the fatigue since breast cancer treatments in 05 that I doubt I could list them all. I'd say I finally got on board with the protocol, done properly most of the time with all the companion nutrients, since July 2009. Two loading tests have shown lousy iodine absorption and one bromide test clocked in at 32.I'm still sluggish and want so much to ramp up to full throttle. My detox symptoms mainly are fatigue, fairly stinky armpits just hours after bathing. I haven't been to a doctor since 2008. I've cleaned up my diet, take a slew of supplements to the point where I needed some labs to see where I'm at.I ordered a bunch of tests from directlabs in August. The only three things out of range were TSH at 5.9 (.45 to 4.5), LDL 142 (0-99), total cholesterol 228 (100-199) with a ratio of total/hdl at 3.3. My free T3 and free T4 were smack dab in the middle. TPO antibodies 8 (0-34), Antithyroglobulin Ab less than 20 (0-40).I want SO much to coax my thyroid into gear without a scrip, but being 6 years out from treatment now, I am SO tired of being tired that I decided to try a doctor one more time. I decided a scrip for naturethroid is the next thing I'd like to try. This time I picked an osteopath.In the past, I've never been formally dx'd as hypothyroid (thanks for nothing during those 2 years, my former MD's). So today I went in with my recent lab printouts, my cancer treatment medical records, and five different books that give lists of hypothyroid symptoms. ...and a shopping bag full of all the supplements I take.All that preparation to do battle over a hypothyroid dx, and he was agreeable on that front right away. That was great, but I was unprepared for what came next. First thing he offers is synthroid. I expressed interest in naturethroid. He said Armour is the only other thyroid med he's familiar with. I said I'd prefer naturethroid. He said he isn't comfortable prescribing it because he doesn't know anything about it. I suggested that he has the option of changing that. He said he's comfortable with what he already does and he's not comfortable in prescribing naturethroid. So I said I'm not comfortable in accepting what he has to offer.At that point I wavered. I could get a scrip for armour from this man. But I knew this was someone I'm not likely to ever visit again. And I'm stubborn. I didn't want to settle for less. But refusing to settle means walking away with nothing instead of something, and I really wonder about my brain function when I look back in hindsight. I asked if I would be charged for the visit if I decline what he has to offer, and he said I could walk out with no charge. So that's what I did. This is not the first time I've encountered medical professionals who literally admit to being unfamiliar with something in their own field and then making it crystal clear that they plan on sticking with what is already familiar.To wrap up and make this rambling on topic, I'm wondering if I would benefit from taking even more iodine. Most of the time I take 100 mg/day. The iodine protocol is one thing I've stuck with for a long time while a slew of supplements have come and gone over the years. I also drink simple herb infusions every day: nettles, oatstraw and red clover on a rotation. I credit some stellar labs to doing a whole bunch of things consistently over time. I just really thought I'd have this sluggishness kicked to the curb by now and I don't. I feel like I'm on the right path, but dang, life is finite on this planet and I need to get more out of my days. I'm open to suggestions.Jana in south Texas

[Guest guest]

The company that compounds my dessicated thyroid calls it armour. But, it doesn't have all the junk in it. DebbieFrom: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>Subject: Re: Got thrown for a loopiodine Date: Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 5:52 PM



Nature-throid IS NOT GENERIC for Armour. It is a Brand Name medication. There are no generic desiccated thyroid products on the market. There are several brand name:

Armour Thyroid - Forest Pharmaceutical

Nature-Throid - RLC Labs ( www.rlclabs.com - Westhroid is the veterinarian product (also NOT generic) but was subbed for Naturethroid during a shortage - it is the same product )

Thyroid NP - Acella

Thyroid - ERFA (Canada pharmacies only but will ship to US)

Buist, ND HC

Got thrown for a loop

Hi everyone,I don't post here often, but I have an update for anyone interested. I've been a subscriber almost 4 years. I've tried so many things to ditch the fatigue since breast cancer treatments in 05 that I doubt I could list them all. I'd say I finally got on board with the protocol, done properly most of the time with all the companion nutrients, since July 2009. Two loading tests have shown lousy iodine absorption and one bromide test clocked in at 32.I'm still sluggish and want so much to ramp up to full throttle. My detox symptoms mainly are fatigue, fairly stinky armpits just hours after bathing. I haven't been to a doctor since 2008. I've cleaned up my diet, take a slew of supplements to the point where I needed some labs to see where I'm at.I ordered a bunch of tests from directlabs in August. The only three things out of range were TSH at 5.9 (.45 to 4.5), LDL 142 (0-99), total cholesterol 228 (100-199) with a ratio of total/hdl at 3.3. My free T3 and free T4 were smack dab in the middle. TPO antibodies 8 (0-34), Antithyroglobulin Ab less than 20 (0-40).I want SO much to coax my thyroid into gear without a scrip, but being 6 years out from treatment now, I am SO tired of being tired that I decided to try a doctor one more time. I decided a scrip for naturethroid is the next thing I'd like to try. This time I picked an osteopath.In the past, I've never been formally dx'd as hypothyroid (thanks for nothing during those 2 years, my former MD's). So today I went in with my recent lab printouts, my cancer treatment medical records, and five different books that give lists of hypothyroid symptoms. ...and a shopping bag full of all the supplements I take.All that preparation to do battle over a hypothyroid dx, and he was agreeable on that front right away. That was great, but I was unprepared for what came next. First thing he offers is synthroid. I expressed interest in naturethroid. He said Armour is the only other thyroid med he's familiar with. I said I'd prefer naturethroid. He said he isn't comfortable prescribing it because he doesn't know anything about it. I suggested that he has the option of changing that. He said he's comfortable with what he already does and he's not comfortable in prescribing naturethroid. So I said I'm not comfortable in accepting what he has to offer.At that point I wavered. I could get a scrip for armour from this man. But I knew this was someone I'm not likely to ever visit again. And I'm stubborn. I didn't want to settle for less. But refusing to settle means walking away with nothing instead of something, and I really wonder about my brain function when I look back in hindsight. I asked if I would be charged for the visit if I decline what he has to offer, and he said I could walk out with no charge. So that's what I did. This is not the first time I've encountered medical professionals who literally admit to being unfamiliar with something in their own field and then making it crystal clear that they plan on sticking with what is already familiar.To wrap up and make this rambling on topic, I'm wondering if I would benefit from taking even more iodine. Most of the time I take 100 mg/day. The iodine protocol is one thing I've stuck with for a long time while a slew of supplements have come and gone over the years. I also drink simple herb infusions every day: nettles, oatstraw and red clover on a rotation. I credit some stellar labs to doing a whole bunch of things consistently over time. I just really thought I'd have this sluggishness kicked to the curb by now and I don't. I feel like I'm on the right path, but dang, life is finite on this planet and I need to get more out of my days. I'm open to suggestions.Jana in south Texas

[Guest guest]

Norine (and Jana),

To find a iodine-friendly doctor near your Zip Code, go to one of these two

professional medical groups and take advantage of their doctor referral search

engine:

http://www.acamnet.org/site/apps/kb/cs/contactsearch.asp?c=ltJWJ4MPIwE & b=6182915\

& raw=

http://www.aaemonline.org/find.php

It appears to me from your Zip Code that you reside in a remote area. Therefore,

you will probably need to commute to a larger city or metropolitan area. These

two groups of doctors have been educated regarding iodine therapy at medical

conferneces, but not all of them will have experience with it. Therefore, it

will be necessary for you to screen the offices by asking questions of the

receptionist before booking your first appointment.

>

> I take Naturethroid myself.  It is simply one of the generics for Armour.  I

prefer it over Armour, mainly because it is so dirt cheap.  One suggestion I

have is maybe you could call every pharmacy and ask them which doctors in the

area are prescribing natural thyroid.  Then call those doctors offices and ask

if the doctor is willing to prescribe Naturethroid.  I had to educate my doctor

a little bit and I had to get the local pharmacy to order it.  It may be

helpful for you to go to the Naturethroid, Westhroid (that's another generic

made by the same company) website.  I think the company name is RLC Labs.

 They list all the dosages they manufacture and how to translate milligrams of

Synthroid into grains of natural porcine thyroid. I can't remember if they have

a way for you to find their list of doctors or not.   I think that's why lots

of doctors don't want to prescribe the natural.  They are not familiar with

grains and it makes them feel

> stupid.  My doctor is Dr. Albert Friday at the Van Horn Rural Health Clinic

in Van Horn, Texas 79855 (432-283-1020).  Taking thyroid replacement is not the

same as blood pressure medicine and other medicines.  To me, it seems more like

a supplement because it is something you are deficient in.  Having been treated

for breast cancer, your thyroid and adrenals probably took a real beating.

 Good luck and feel free to contact me directly if I can be of more help.

 Blessings, Norine

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Jana <paintbrushcc@...>

> iodine

> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 4:15 PM

> Subject: Got thrown for a loop

>

>

>  

> Hi everyone,

> I don't post here often, but I have an update for anyone interested.

> I've been a subscriber almost 4 years. I've tried so many things to

> ditch the fatigue since breast cancer treatments in 05 that I doubt I

> could list them all. I'd say I finally got on board with the protocol,

> done properly most of the time with all the companion nutrients, since

> July 2009. Two loading tests have shown lousy iodine absorption and one

> bromide test clocked in at 32.

>

> I'm still sluggish and want so much to ramp up to full throttle. My

> detox symptoms mainly are fatigue, fairly stinky armpits just hours

> after bathing. I haven't been to a doctor since 2008. I've cleaned up

> my diet, take a slew of supplements to the point where I needed some

> labs to see where I'm at.

>

> I ordered a bunch of tests from directlabs in August. The only three

> things out of range were TSH at 5.9 (.45 to 4.5), LDL 142 (0-99), total

> cholesterol 228 (100-199) with a ratio of total/hdl at 3.3. My free T3

> and free T4 were smack dab in the middle. TPO antibodies 8 (0-34),

> Antithyroglobulin Ab less than 20 (0-40).

>

> I want SO much to coax my thyroid into gear without a scrip, but being 6

> years out from treatment now, I am SO tired of being tired that I

> decided to try a doctor one more time. I decided a scrip for

> naturethroid is the next thing I'd like to try. This time I picked an

> osteopath.

>

> In the past, I've never been formally dx'd as hypothyroid (thanks for

> nothing during those 2 years, my former MD's). So today I went in with

> my recent lab printouts, my cancer treatment medical records, and five

> different books that give lists of hypothyroid symptoms. ...and a

> shopping bag full of all the supplements I take.

>

> All that preparation to do battle over a hypothyroid dx, and he was

> agreeable on that front right away. That was great, but I was

> unprepared for what came next. First thing he offers is synthroid. I

> expressed interest in naturethroid. He said Armour is the only other

> thyroid med he's familiar with. I said I'd prefer naturethroid. He

> said he isn't comfortable prescribing it because he doesn't know

> anything about it. I suggested that he has the option of changing

> that. He said he's comfortable with what he already does and he's not

> comfortable in prescribing naturethroid. So I said I'm not comfortable

> in accepting what he has to offer.

>

> At that point I wavered. I could get a scrip for armour from this man.

> But I knew this was someone I'm not likely to ever visit again. And I'm

> stubborn. I didn't want to settle for less. But refusing to settle

> means walking away with nothing instead of something, and I really

> wonder about my brain function when I look back in hindsight. I asked

> if I would be charged for the visit if I decline what he has to offer,

> and he said I could walk out with no charge. So that's what I did.

> This is not the first time I've encountered medical professionals who

> literally admit to being unfamiliar with something in their own field

> and then making it crystal clear that they plan on sticking with what is

> already familiar.

>

> To wrap up and make this rambling on topic, I'm wondering if I would

> benefit from taking even more iodine. Most of the time I take 100

> mg/day. The iodine protocol is one thing I've stuck with for a long

> time while a slew of supplements have come and gone over the years. I

> also drink simple herb infusions every day: nettles, oatstraw and red

> clover on a rotation. I credit some stellar labs to doing a whole bunch

> of things consistently over time. I just really thought I'd have this

> sluggishness kicked to the curb by now and I don't. I feel like I'm on

> the right path, but dang, life is finite on this planet and I need to

> get more out of my days. I'm open to suggestions.

> Jana in south Texas

>

[Guest guest]

Jana -I am no expert, but I have been reading a lot about the GAPS diet and I think it is something you might want to look into. I know . . . it's hard to think about doing one more thing. But what I read fascinates me and I am thinking you might want to take a look. Just google GAPS diet and you can read all night!-Kim From: Jana <paintbrushcc@...> iodine Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 4:15 PM Subject: Got thrown for a loop

Hi everyone,

I don't post here often, but I have an update for anyone interested.

I've been a subscriber almost 4 years. I've tried so many things to

ditch the fatigue since breast cancer treatments in 05 that I doubt I

could list them all. I'd say I finally got on board with the protocol,

done properly most of the time with all the companion nutrients, since

July 2009. Two loading tests have shown lousy iodine absorption and one

bromide test clocked in at 32.

I'm still sluggish and want so much to ramp up to full throttle. My

detox symptoms mainly are fatigue, fairly stinky armpits just hours

after bathing. I haven't been to a doctor since 2008. I've cleaned up

my diet, take a slew of supplements to the point where I needed some

labs to see where I'm at.

I ordered a bunch of tests from directlabs in August. The only three

things out of range were TSH at 5.9 (.45 to 4.5), LDL 142 (0-99), total

cholesterol 228 (100-199) with a ratio of total/hdl at 3.3. My free T3

and free T4 were smack dab in the middle. TPO antibodies 8 (0-34),

Antithyroglobulin Ab less than 20 (0-40).

I want SO much to coax my thyroid into gear without a scrip, but being 6

years out from treatment now, I am SO tired of being tired that I

decided to try a doctor one more time. I decided a scrip for

naturethroid is the next thing I'd like to try. This time I picked an

osteopath.

In the past, I've never been formally dx'd as hypothyroid (thanks for

nothing during those 2 years, my former MD's). So today I went in with

my recent lab printouts, my cancer treatment medical records, and five

different books that give lists of hypothyroid symptoms. ...and a

shopping bag full of all the supplements I take.

All that preparation to do battle over a hypothyroid dx, and he was

agreeable on that front right away. That was great, but I was

unprepared for what came next. First thing he offers is synthroid. I

expressed interest in naturethroid. He said Armour is the only other

thyroid med he's familiar with. I said I'd prefer naturethroid. He

said he isn't comfortable prescribing it because he doesn't know

anything about it. I suggested that he has the option of changing

that. He said he's comfortable with what he already does and he's not

comfortable in prescribing naturethroid. So I said I'm not comfortable

in accepting what he has to offer.

At that point I wavered. I could get a scrip for armour from this man.

But I knew this was someone I'm not likely to ever visit again. And I'm

stubborn. I didn't want to settle for less. But refusing to settle

means walking away with nothing instead of something, and I really

wonder about my brain function when I look back in hindsight. I asked

if I would be charged for the visit if I decline what he has to offer,

and he said I could walk out with no charge. So that's what I did.

This is not the first time I've encountered medical professionals who

literally admit to being unfamiliar with something in their own field

and then making it crystal clear that they plan on sticking with what is

already familiar.

To wrap up and make this rambling on topic, I'm wondering if I would

benefit from taking even more iodine. Most of the time I take 100

mg/day. The iodine protocol is one thing I've stuck with for a long

time while a slew of supplements have come and gone over the years. I

also drink simple herb infusions every day: nettles, oatstraw and red

clover on a rotation. I credit some stellar labs to doing a whole bunch

of things consistently over time. I just really thought I'd have this

sluggishness kicked to the curb by now and I don't. I feel like I'm on

the right path, but dang, life is finite on this planet and I need to

get more out of my days. I'm open to suggestions.

Jana in south Texas

[Guest guest]

It doesn't matter that you can't get NatureThroid locally-- you can get it from

e's Pharmacy in Arizona-- google or bing it. The MD has to fax the

prescription, that's all. They are great, very helpful, very organized.

As far as should you take thyroid replacement hormone or not, I think this idea

that

people should deprive themselves of thyroid hormone is harmful. By the time the

thyroid stops working, a person has been sick for a very long time. The thyroid

is

the engine of the metabolism, so when you don't have thyroid function, you don't

have metabolism, and if you don't have metabolism, you can't heal, you can't

fully

utilize supplements or drugs. So this idea that we are helping ourselves by

depriving our thyroid of hormones is counterproductive.

Once your thyroid has the hormones it needs, you'll start to feel better.

You've

been through cancer and whatever else-- keeping your metabolism depressed is

not helping you on any level.

I wound up taking MORE thyroid hormone after I started the iodine protocol. I'm

just happy I'm in balance, have my life back, and have my energy back. None of

us has perfect health once we're past 18 years old, so the perfectionist idea

that we

can is self-defeating. Optimal health is what is possible, and what I strive

for.

--

On 7 Dec 2011 at 18:40, Jana wrote:

>

>

>

> Norine, there's only two compounding pharmacies in my city (which I

> sometimes call the end of the earth even though it's nearly 300,000

> population). Both pharmacies did not know what naturethroid is, and

> there's NO ONE locally I'm able to find that already prescribes it. I

> confirmed this today with by calling RLC labs directly. The nearest

> prescriber is in Harlingen, 100 miles away.

>

> Karey, thanks for the moral support. I've tried looking for a

> functional med doc. They're not around here either that I can find.

>

> fwiw, I do know that nutri-meds over the counter thyroid supplements

> are helpful. I take a higher dose than the package states. I ran out

> for three weeks last month and was tanking without them. Got my new

> supply this week and started feeling better right away.

>

> As I told the osteopath today, the supplements float my boat part of

> the way, and I'd really like to know if naturethroid would float my

> boat all the way. It is so frustrating to not only have non-

> iodine-literate doctors nearby, but to have doctors who flat out

> refuse to learn something new, well, I'd have to start cursing to

> express myself. Jana

>

>

> On 12/7/2011 4:51 PM, Norine Donnelly wrote:

> I take Naturethroid myself. It is simply one of the generics for

> Armour. I prefer it over Armour, mainly because it is so dirt

> cheap. One suggestion I have is maybe you could call every

> pharmacy and ask them which doctors in the area are prescribing

> natural thyroid. Then call those doctors offices and ask if the

> doctor is willing to prescribe Naturethroid. I had to educate my

> doctor a little bit and I had to get the local pharmacy to order

> it. It may be helpful for you to go to the Naturethroid, Westhroid

> (that's another generic made by the same company) website. I think

> the company name is RLC Labs. They list all the dosages they

> manufacture and how to translate milligrams of Synthroid into

> grains of natural porcine thyroid. I can't remember if they have a

> way for you to find their list of doctors or not. I think that's

> why lots of doctors don't want to prescribe the natural. They are

> not familiar with grains and it makes them feel stupid. My doctor

> is Dr. Albert Friday at the Van Horn Rural Health Clinic in Van

> Horn, Texas 79855 (432-283-1020). Taking thyroid replacement is

> not the same as blood pressure medicine and other medicines. To

> me, it seems more like a supplement because it is something you

> are deficient in. Having been treated for breast cancer, your

> thyroid and adrenals probably took a real beating. Good luck and

> feel free to contact me directly if I can be of more help.

> Blessings, Norine

>

>

> From: Jana <paintbrushcc@...>

> iodine

> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 4:15 PM

> Subject: Got thrown for a loop

>

>

> Hi everyone,

> I don't post here often, but I have an update for anyone interested.

> I've been a subscriber almost 4 years. I've tried so many things to

> ditch the fatigue since breast cancer treatments in 05 that I doubt I

> could list them all. I'd say I finally got on board with the protocol,

> done properly most of the time with all the companion nutrients, since

> July 2009. Two loading tests have shown lousy iodine absorption and

> one bromide test clocked in at 32.

>

> I'm still sluggish and want so much to ramp up to full throttle. My

> detox symptoms mainly are fatigue, fairly stinky armpits just hours

> after bathing. I haven't been to a doctor since 2008. I've cleaned up

> my diet, take a slew of supplements to the point where I needed some

> labs to see where I'm at.

>

> I ordered a bunch of tests from directlabs in August. The only three

> things out of range were TSH at 5.9 (.45 to 4.5), LDL 142 (0-99),

> total cholesterol 228 (100-199) with a ratio of total/hdl at 3.3. My

> free T3 and free T4 were smack dab in the middle. TPO antibodies 8

> (0-34), Antithyroglobulin Ab less than 20 (0-40).

>

> I want SO much to coax my thyroid into gear without a scrip, but being

> 6 years out from treatment now, I am SO tired of being tired that I

> decided to try a doctor one more time. I decided a scrip for

> naturethroid is the next thing I'd like to try. This time I picked an

> osteopath.

>

> In the past, I've never been formally dx'd as hypothyroid (thanks for

> nothing during those 2 years, my former MD's). So today I went in with

> my recent lab printouts, my cancer treatment medical records, and five

> different books that give lists of hypothyroid symptoms. ...and a

> shopping bag full of all the supplements I take.

>

> All that preparation to do battle over a hypothyroid dx, and he was

> agreeable on that front right away. That was great, but I was

> unprepared for what came next. First thing he offers is synthroid. I

> expressed interest in naturethroid. He said Armour is the only other

> thyroid med he's familiar with. I said I'd prefer naturethroid. He

> said he isn't comfortable prescribing it because he doesn't know

> anything about it. I suggested that he has the option of changing

> that. He said he's comfortable with what he already does and he's not

> comfortable in prescribing naturethroid. So I said I'm not comfortable

> in accepting what he has to offer.

>

> At that point I wavered. I could get a scrip for armour from this man.

> But I knew this was someone I'm not likely to ever visit again. And

> I'm stubborn. I didn't want to settle for less. But refusing to settle

> means walking away with nothing instead of something, and I really

> wonder about my brain function when I look back in hindsight. I asked

> if I would be charged for the visit if I decline what he has to offer,

> and he said I could walk out with no charge. So that's what I did.

> This is not the first time I've encountered medical professionals who

> literally admit to being unfamiliar with something in their own field

> and then making it crystal clear that they plan on sticking with what

> is already familiar.

>

> To wrap up and make this rambling on topic, I'm wondering if I would

> benefit from taking even more iodine. Most of the time I take 100

> mg/day. The iodine protocol is one thing I've stuck with for a long

> time while a slew of supplements have come and gone over the years. I

> also drink simple herb infusions every day: nettles, oatstraw and red

> clover on a rotation. I credit some stellar labs to doing a whole

> bunch of things consistently over time. I just really thought I'd have

> this sluggishness kicked to the curb by now and I don't. I feel like

> I'm on the right path, but dang, life is finite on this planet and I

> need to get more out of my days. I'm open to suggestions. Jana in

> south Texas

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, thank you for the acamnet.org site. It came back with a

nurse practitioner in my area. NP's can write prescriptions in TX.

, If I ever manage to get a scrip for naturethroid, I'll

remember your pharmacy suggestion. I suppose I could've taken the scrip

for armour this week from that osteopath. But it's not what I wanted,

and I'm just so offended by physicians who confess to being uninformed

on a topic and insist on remaining that way. sheesh. They can be that

way if they want, but they're not going to have me seeking their

advice. I'd really prefer so much to restore myself to full throttle

without a prescription. Gluten-free is something I haven't tried yet

that potentially could do that for me. I just got a craving for pizza

thinking about it.

Weighing my options, I've decided to visit the NP next week and hope she

will give me a scrip for naturethroid. I contacted the naturethroid

toll-free number on Wednesday and they're sending information. I was so

unprepared to encounter the osteopath's insistence that synthroid and

armour would be the only scrips he would write for hypothryoidism.

Wish me better luck next time everyone! Thank you to everyone who

helped me this week. I want to feel great at some point in the future,

and I " m not sure I'd see that as an achievable goal without this list.

Jana

On 12/8/2011 8:29 PM, Baker wrote:

> It doesn't matter that you can't get NatureThroid locally-- you can get it

from

> e's Pharmacy in Arizona-- google or bing it. The MD has to fax the

> prescription, that's all. They are great, very helpful, very organized.

>

> As far as should you take thyroid replacement hormone or not, I think this

idea that

> people should deprive themselves of thyroid hormone is harmful. By the time

the

> thyroid stops working, a person has been sick for a very long time. The

thyroid is

> the engine of the metabolism, so when you don't have thyroid function, you

don't

> have metabolism, and if you don't have metabolism, you can't heal, you can't

fully

> utilize supplements or drugs. So this idea that we are helping ourselves by

> depriving our thyroid of hormones is counterproductive.

>

> Once your thyroid has the hormones it needs, you'll start to feel better.

You've

> been through cancer and whatever else-- keeping your metabolism depressed is

> not helping you on any level.

>

> I wound up taking MORE thyroid hormone after I started the iodine protocol.

I'm

> just happy I'm in balance, have my life back, and have my energy back. None

of

> us has perfect health once we're past 18 years old, so the perfectionist idea

that we

> can is self-defeating. Optimal health is what is possible, and what I strive

for.

>

> --

>

>

> On 7 Dec 2011 at 18:40, Jana wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Norine, there's only two compounding pharmacies in my city (which I

>> sometimes call the end of the earth even though it's nearly 300,000

>> population). Both pharmacies did not know what naturethroid is, and

>> there's NO ONE locally I'm able to find that already prescribes it. I

>> confirmed this today with by calling RLC labs directly. The nearest

>> prescriber is in Harlingen, 100 miles away.

>>

>> Karey, thanks for the moral support. I've tried looking for a

>> functional med doc. They're not around here either that I can find.

>>

>> fwiw, I do know that nutri-meds over the counter thyroid supplements

>> are helpful. I take a higher dose than the package states. I ran out

>> for three weeks last month and was tanking without them. Got my new

>> supply this week and started feeling better right away.

>>

>> As I told the osteopath today, the supplements float my boat part of

>> the way, and I'd really like to know if naturethroid would float my

>> boat all the way. It is so frustrating to not only have non-

>> iodine-literate doctors nearby, but to have doctors who flat out

>> refuse to learn something new, well, I'd have to start cursing to

>> express myself. Jana

>>

>>

>> On 12/7/2011 4:51 PM, Norine Donnelly wrote:

>> I take Naturethroid myself. It is simply one of the generics for

>> Armour. I prefer it over Armour, mainly because it is so dirt

>> cheap. One suggestion I have is maybe you could call every

>> pharmacy and ask them which doctors in the area are prescribing

>> natural thyroid. Then call those doctors offices and ask if the

>> doctor is willing to prescribe Naturethroid. I had to educate my

>> doctor a little bit and I had to get the local pharmacy to order

>> it. It may be helpful for you to go to the Naturethroid, Westhroid

>> (that's another generic made by the same company) website. I think

>> the company name is RLC Labs. They list all the dosages they

>> manufacture and how to translate milligrams of Synthroid into

>> grains of natural porcine thyroid. I can't remember if they have a

>> way for you to find their list of doctors or not. I think that's

>> why lots of doctors don't want to prescribe the natural. They are

>> not familiar with grains and it makes them feel stupid. My doctor

>> is Dr. Albert Friday at the Van Horn Rural Health Clinic in Van

>> Horn, Texas 79855 (432-283-1020). Taking thyroid replacement is

>> not the same as blood pressure medicine and other medicines. To

>> me, it seems more like a supplement because it is something you

>> are deficient in. Having been treated for breast cancer, your

>> thyroid and adrenals probably took a real beating. Good luck and

>> feel free to contact me directly if I can be of more help.

>> Blessings, Norine

>>

>>

>> From: Jana<paintbrushcc@...>

>> iodine

>> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 4:15 PM

>> Subject: Got thrown for a loop

>>

>>

>> Hi everyone,

>> I don't post here often, but I have an update for anyone interested.

>> I've been a subscriber almost 4 years. I've tried so many things to

>> ditch the fatigue since breast cancer treatments in 05 that I doubt I

>> could list them all. I'd say I finally got on board with the protocol,

>> done properly most of the time with all the companion nutrients, since

>> July 2009. Two loading tests have shown lousy iodine absorption and

>> one bromide test clocked in at 32.

>>

>> I'm still sluggish and want so much to ramp up to full throttle. My

>> detox symptoms mainly are fatigue, fairly stinky armpits just hours

>> after bathing. I haven't been to a doctor since 2008. I've cleaned up

>> my diet, take a slew of supplements to the point where I needed some

>> labs to see where I'm at.

>>

>> I ordered a bunch of tests from directlabs in August. The only three

>> things out of range were TSH at 5.9 (.45 to 4.5), LDL 142 (0-99),

>> total cholesterol 228 (100-199) with a ratio of total/hdl at 3.3. My

>> free T3 and free T4 were smack dab in the middle. TPO antibodies 8

>> (0-34), Antithyroglobulin Ab less than 20 (0-40).

>>

>> I want SO much to coax my thyroid into gear without a scrip, but being

>> 6 years out from treatment now, I am SO tired of being tired that I

>> decided to try a doctor one more time. I decided a scrip for

>> naturethroid is the next thing I'd like to try. This time I picked an

>> osteopath.

>>

>> In the past, I've never been formally dx'd as hypothyroid (thanks for

>> nothing during those 2 years, my former MD's). So today I went in with

>> my recent lab printouts, my cancer treatment medical records, and five

>> different books that give lists of hypothyroid symptoms. ...and a

>> shopping bag full of all the supplements I take.

>>

>> All that preparation to do battle over a hypothyroid dx, and he was

>> agreeable on that front right away. That was great, but I was

>> unprepared for what came next. First thing he offers is synthroid. I

>> expressed interest in naturethroid. He said Armour is the only other

>> thyroid med he's familiar with. I said I'd prefer naturethroid. He

>> said he isn't comfortable prescribing it because he doesn't know

>> anything about it. I suggested that he has the option of changing

>> that. He said he's comfortable with what he already does and he's not

>> comfortable in prescribing naturethroid. So I said I'm not comfortable

>> in accepting what he has to offer.

>>

>> At that point I wavered. I could get a scrip for armour from this man.

>> But I knew this was someone I'm not likely to ever visit again. And

>> I'm stubborn. I didn't want to settle for less. But refusing to settle

>> means walking away with nothing instead of something, and I really

>> wonder about my brain function when I look back in hindsight. I asked

>> if I would be charged for the visit if I decline what he has to offer,

>> and he said I could walk out with no charge. So that's what I did.

>> This is not the first time I've encountered medical professionals who

>> literally admit to being unfamiliar with something in their own field

>> and then making it crystal clear that they plan on sticking with what

>> is already familiar.

>>

>> To wrap up and make this rambling on topic, I'm wondering if I would

>> benefit from taking even more iodine. Most of the time I take 100

>> mg/day. The iodine protocol is one thing I've stuck with for a long

>> time while a slew of supplements have come and gone over the years. I

>> also drink simple herb infusions every day: nettles, oatstraw and red

>> clover on a rotation. I credit some stellar labs to doing a whole

>> bunch of things consistently over time. I just really thought I'd have

>> this sluggishness kicked to the curb by now and I don't. I feel like

>> I'm on the right path, but dang, life is finite on this planet and I

>> need to get more out of my days. I'm open to suggestions. Jana in

>> south Texas

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