Don't know what to do next

[Guest guest]

I was diagnosed with an hypothyroidism (autoimmune) over 3 yrs ago. I've tried

all doses of levothyroxine between 0 and 100mcg (which turned me hyper) and I'm

not feeling at well and have recently been feeling terrible. I've booked a

consultation with dr Peatfield but that isn't until march. I also see a local

private consultant whom I've just persuaded to test my free t3, free t4 and tsh

levels but the results won't be back for a week. I'm wondering if anyone can

offer any advice on what to do whilst I'm waiting.

I've been to A & E twice in the last two weeks. The first established that I had

become hyper and the second trip identified a likely gallbladder issue or

stomach ulcer. I'm currently waiting on a referral for that.

I've ordered a 24 hr saliva adrenal test which I will do tomorrow. I also have

had a series of blood tests that rule out female hormonal problems and blood

tests for vitamin deficiencies. Low vit d and ferritin were highlighted and

I've purchased high doses of those to remedy the problems.

Can anyone suggest anything else that I should or could be doing whilst trying

to get through the next week until I see my consultant again? The main problem

I'm having is feeling incredibly sick and anxious to the point of a near

permanent panic attack. The anxiety initially calmed down after my hyper

diagnosis when my levothyroxine dose was reduced but now it is back. My hair

loss seems to have stopped since lowering the dose and the racing heart problems

have abated but the palpitations remain.

Any advice would be gratefully received.

[Guest guest]

Look at the www.stopthethyroidmadness.com and read the section about adrenals. Sounds like you might find something to help you there.

If you have a digestive problem of the stomach you might like to google the Iodine Protocol. I have Hashis and this protocol has done me a lot of good. I know that many people who use this protocol have complained of having a stomach problem and gall bladder issues. I do not have these two problems, so I am not speaking from experience, but I read many of the posts on the forum for this protocol and they are two problems which are often mentioned. The Iodine Protocol has probably helped me get my auto-immune antibodies down.

Be careful about your gall bladder. Surgeons are very quick to whip them out from what I have observed! It doesn't always improve quality of life because you can swap one lot of problems for another.

MacG.

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[Guest guest]

It's difficult to tell anybody what to do pigpen (what is your

name?) as we are not medically qualified and we don't know what the results of

your thyroid function tests are yet. Did they test to see whether you have

thyroid antibodies, i.e. TPO and TgAb? Do other members of your family have a thyroid

or autoimmune disease?

Why did you go to A & E twice and how did they establish

that you had become hyperthyroid - was this because of the results of thyroid

function tests or because of specific symptoms you were suffering, and signs

you were showing? Have they arranged for any testing to be done to check out

your gallbladder or stomach ulcer?

Can you let us have the results of the blood tests you had done,

because doctors have a habit of telling patients they don't have a problem

because their blood results were normal. We need a reference range for each of

the tests done.

I would buy some unrefined salt as soon as possible. You can

make a mixture called 'Sole' and you take a teaspoon of this every morning, and

more during the day if you feel the need. You get a glass jug, and pour in a

good couple of tablespoons of unrefined salt (I use pink Himalayan) and then

pour in about a pint of boiling water. Let that go cold, and if all the salt

has been absorbed then add another tablespoon full of salt. You add more salt

until you have a complete saturation, which you can tell because there will be

a residue left at the bottom of the job. This is now ready. Put it into a

bottle with a screw lid, and keep it handy so you remember to take this every

morning.

It does sound as if you are suffering with low adrenal reserve,

and taking this unrefined salt will help until you get back your results and we

can then see what is really happening. You could also take high doses of

vitamin C, 3/4000mcgs and 200mcgs Selenium and a good brand of B-complex.

Once all your results are to hand, post them on the forum with

the reference ranges for each test done and we can take it from there. Also, is

there any chance you can get ALL the specific vitamins and minerals we mention

tested i.e. iron, transferrin saturation, vitamin B12,

magnesium, folate, copper and zinc as well as your ferritin and vitamin D

levels?

Luv - Sheila

Can anyone suggest anything else that I should or could be doing whilst trying

to get through the next week until I see my consultant again? The main problem

I'm having is feeling incredibly sick and anxious to the point of a near

permanent panic attack. The anxiety initially calmed down after my hyper

diagnosis when my levothyroxine dose was reduced but now it is back. My hair

loss seems to have stopped since lowering the dose and the racing heart

problems have abated but the palpitations remain.

Any advice would be gratefully received.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for taking the time to reply, it is hugely appreciated.

My name is le but I'm ok with pigpen too!

I havent had my TPA checked since 2008 but at that time it was 217 which I

understand provided a positive result for Hashimotos.

The most recent blood test results were from the Accident & Emergency dept.

This was 0.29 and free t4 was 20. I felt awful, racing heart, adrenalin surges,

palpitations, couldn't control my body temperature, shaking etc. My thyroxine

dose hadn't changed since early July and standard blood test results were ok in

September (although of course free t3 wasn't tested). I haven't been doing

anything different, no new supplements, no eating different foods, no taking

supplements near to taking thyroxine etc.

My serum ferritin level is 26 ug/l (10-420)

Vit D is 38 nmol (insufficient)

folate > 20 ug/l (2.6 - 17.3)

I've had cholesterol tests which were fine and liver function tests which were

fine (excepting bilirubin levels but the doctor thinks I have a genetic reason

why that is high).

What will the salt water do? I thought I needed to keep away from salt because

of the iodine? Is seasalt more natural and not fortified with iodine? I

haven't had a test to determine iodine levels so perhaps this is something I

should do?

Thanks again so much.

>

> It's difficult to tell anybody what to do pigpen (what is your name?) as we

> are not medically qualified and we don't know what the results of your

> thyroid function tests are yet. Did they

[Guest guest]

Gall bladder issues and stomach issues are very much part and parcel of hypothyroid symptoms.

The gall bladder issue is likely to be associated with a chronic inflammation in your body; have recently you had an ESR and or CRP blood test done? These both test the blood for signs of inflammation . Reduce inflammation causing foods to start with and also foods which cause problems for the gall bladder and stomach. So Tamatoes, Bell peppers, Aubergines and Potatoes are some of the deadly nightshade plant fruits which cause an inflammatory response in the body. Then also lower your intake of omega 6 and much meat is now high in omega 6 due to cattle being fed an unnatural diet of cereal and soy. ETC.

I would suggest you could think of taking both HCL Betaine and pancreatic digestive enzymes to help you. These ensure the nutrients in your food are absorbed. Follw all the instructions for HCL supplements and if you experience burning or a warm sensation then you should stop them. However, I have found very few people suffer these effects on low doses.

So far as the panic stuff is concerned that is associated with your adrenal dysfunction which as we know is strongly associated with thyroid dysfunction.

All symptoms sound as though you are not on the right thyroid support or the dose is wrong.

Until you support your adrenals well you may find your thyroid dose will cause odd responses, such as palpatations etc. Start with a magnesium supplement taken at night although it can be taken throughout the day, but it does tend to give some relaxation to your body.....take a multi mineral because you are taking a one of single mineral supplement.....

Best of luck. I have much more info but too long for here, you can either contact me directly, but i do suggest looking in the FILES for adrenal info too.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reply.

I begged my consultant to carry out an adrenal function test and under duress he

did agree. he carried out a blood test and the result came back as being ok ( I

will ask for specific figures when I see him next week). I know that the blood

test isnt the most accurate one which is why I've ordered the 24 hr saliva test

from red apple. I can't believe that I don't have adrenal issues!

I am booked in for more blood tests with my GP to cover other sources of

inflammation but the next available blood test appointment isn't until 6

December - shocking!

>

> Gall bladder issues and stomach issues are very much part and parcel of

hypothyroid symptoms.

>  

[Guest guest]

,

are you being paid a commission to promote STTM above TPA? *grin*. All such

information is readily available here in our Files section, you don't have to

send our members elsewhere.

Luv

- Sheila

Look at the www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

and read the section about adrenals. Sounds like you might find something

to help you there.

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[Guest guest]

Hi le

Definitely a

TPO antibody level of 217 is high enough to know the cause of your

hypothyroidism is Hashimoto's disease. However, treatment is usually the same,

whatever the cause..

You really must get a full thyroid function test done now, because a free T4 of

20 (we really need to know the reference ranges for each test done when you

post results) is way too high in the range. This is an indication that the

thyroxine is lying in the blood with nowhere to go because it should have

converted into the active thyroid hormone T3. It is T3 that every cell in your

body and brain need to make them function. If the Thyroxine (T4) is lying in

the blood, this will be what is causing your symptoms of toxicity. Your GP must

ask the hospital laboratory to test your level of free T3 because if T4 is not

converting into T3, your free T3 level will show low, and you will need a

prescription for T3, either in combination with T3, T3 on it's own or natural

thyroid extract. Insist that your doctor ensures that the laboratory DOES do

this test, because with trying to save money, the laboratory try to tell

doctors that such a test is unnecessary. This is absolutely wrong, it IS

necessary.

You do however,

need to take certain supplements with your thyroxine and these are 200mcgs Selenium

(this helps with conversion and helps decrease the number of antibodies), high

dose Vitamin C (in your case, 3/4000mgs daily because of your very low ferritin

level) 15mgs zinc and a\ good brand Vitamin B-Complex.

If my level

of ferritin was so low, I would be supplementing with 200mgs Ferrous Fumerate

or Ferrous Glutamate twice daily to start with and then when the level starts

to rise, drop this to 200mgs once daily and take it with food. I would also be

taking a high dose Vitamin C to help the iron absorb and to stop possible

constipation. Nobody should take iron anywhere near to thyroxine, i.e.

take it four hours away. I would also be supplementing my low vitamin D with

4000ug Vitamin D3 daily.

When the adrenal glands are fatigued,

they fail to produce adequate amounts of several hormones, including

adrenaline, cortisol and aldosterone. Lack of aldosterone can disrupt the

sodium balance at a cellular level. This can actually increase your needs for

natural sodium and helps explain the salt cravings many people with adrenal

fatigue experience.

How to Heal the Adrenals with Sea Salt

First and foremost, choose a high-quality brand of unrefined sea salt. Table

salt can't offer a fraction of the benefits of sea salt, which contains sodium

in a more usable state in addition to vital trace minerals that will facilitate

adrenal healing.

Read more about the differences between conventional salt and genuine sea salt

here:

http://www.naturalnews.com/026938_s...

Once you have a good quality salt, you should always salt your food to taste.

Someone with adrenal fatigue will naturally enjoy more salt on his/her food;

whereas, someone with healthy adrenals will generally prefer less.

Many people with adrenal fatigue also benefit from taking an additional 1/8 to

1/4 teaspoon of salt with a glass of water in the morning and evening, and

throughout the day as needed. The salt can be mixed with the water or taken

straight on the tongue and then chased with a glass of water.

It's important to allow your body to dictate how much natural salt you use in

your diet. Most people with adrenal fatigue tend to like the taste of added

salt to their food, and won't mind the taste of the salt-water mixture or even

putting sea salt straight on their tongues. If you are working on healing your

adrenals, as time passes you may notice that the salty taste is less appealing.

Excess salt may even make you nauseous. This is typically a signal that your

sodium needs are decreasing and that you should cut back on your intake.

For most people with adrenal health, sea salt therapy is highly beneficial and

has few side effects. However, there are a few exceptions: those with heart

disease, hypertension or kidney disease should consult with a professional

first as salt may be contraindicated.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/029165_adrenals_sea_salt.html#ixzz1fAvzkUAX

What will the salt water do? I thought I needed to keep away from salt because

of the iodine? Is seasalt more natural and not fortified with iodine? I haven't

had a test to determine iodine levels so perhaps this is something I should do?

Thanks again so much.

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[Guest guest]

Had you ordered fro Genova Diagnostics, you would have got a

great discount being a member of TPA. This information is in our FILES SECTION

of this forum under the folder entitled 'Discounts on Tests and Supplements'.

Remember that if your results show your adrenals are low and need supplementing

you can get 33% discount on thyroid and adrenal supplements from Nutri Ltd

(details in our Files section) again for being a member of TPA. You need to TPA

reference range to quote.

Once you get all your results, do post them here on the forum

and we will help with their interpretation. You will need to post the reference

range for each of the tests done.

Luv - Sheila

I begged my consultant to carry out an adrenal function test and under duress

he did agree. he carried out a blood test and the result came back as being ok

( I will ask for specific figures when I see him next week). I know that the

blood test isnt the most accurate one which is why I've ordered the 24 hr

saliva test from red apple. I can't believe that I don't have adrenal issues!

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