Guest guest Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Jane, The reference ranges show what something like 95% of the population have. However most of the population would be towards the middle of the range not at the bottom end of it.... Your ferritin is scraping the bottom end and experience shows that people actually feel better when it's over 80, the same with B12, you need to be towards the top of the range..... The zinc is below range and that will mess up the copper. What copper does, is it allows you to use the iron which is in the blood..... No good having iron available if you can't use it.... Zinc tablets are easy to buy..... take one and if you're short it will taste of nothing, just chalky. when you have enough zinc in your body, the zinc tablets taste disgusting..... so.... you need Iron, B12 and zinc.... I take it that your main complaint is fatigue? x > > Hi All, > > Although doc says test results all ok, save zinc slightly low, I`ve lost faith in their reference ranges being ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I have highlighted the results that are showing a problem Jane, Vitamin B12 348 ng/L (130-800) - Vitamin B12 should be right at the top of the reference range, whatever your GP tries to tell you. You need to start taking sublingual vitamin B12 1000mcgs, preferably twice a day to start with and when your B12 starts to get boosted, drop this to 1000mcgs daily. Ferritin 20 ug/L (12-250) = This is terrible. Your level of ferritin should be over 90 at least. How can your GP ignore this. You need to supplement with some form of elemental iron such as Ferrous Fumerate or Ferrous Glutamate i.e. 200mgs 3 times daily with food to start with, and drop this slowly as your ferritin level increases. This should be taken with H IGH doses of vitamin C - i…e. 3/4000mgs daily, and more if possible, to bowel tolerance. Zinc 9.6 umol/L (11.0 - 24.0) - You already know about this and treating it. Iron could not be tested because it is a very expensive test and they only do it if Ferritin is low anyway. Write a letter to your GP and tell her that your health is worth a million pounds to you and that you are not prepared to sacrifice your health because her practise cannot afford the cost of an iron test. Low iron/ferritin: Iron deficiency is shown to significantly reduce T4 to T3 conversion, increase reverse T3 levels, and block the thermogenic (metabolism boosting) properties of thyroid hormone (1-4). Thus, iron deficiency, as indicated by an iron saturation below 25 or a ferritin below 70, will result in diminished intracellular T3 levels. Additionally, T4 should not be considered adequate thyroid replacement if iron deficiency is present (1-4)). 1. Dillman E, Gale C, Green W, et al. Hypothermia in iron deficiency due to altered triiodithyroidine metabolism. Regulatory, Integrative and Comparative Physiology 1980;239(5):377-R381. 2. SM, PE, Lukaski HC. In vitro hepatic thyroid hormone deiodination in iron-deficient rats: effect of dietary fat. Life Sci 1993;53(8):603-9. 3. Zimmermann MB, Köhrle J. The Impact of Iron and Selenium Deficiencies on Iodine and Thyroid Metabolism: Biochemistry and Relevance to Public Health. Thyroid 2002;12(10): 867-78. 4. Beard J, tobin B, Green W. Evidence for Thyroid Hormone Deficiency in Iron-Deficient Anemic Rats. J. Nutr. 1989;119:772-778. Your Ferritin level is appallingly low and if she refuses to test your iron level because she believes it is not, I would be inclined to take this matter further. Luv - Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Thank you Sheila and - such helpful replies from both of you and I`ll get those supplements. Yes, its fatigue, aching muscles/joints, eye probs, weight gain etc.. usual hypothyroid stuff. Its Hashis, but am beginning to feel slightly better since being on T4 tho` still not that good. Have seen a big improvement in motivation in last couple of days since starting 5-HTP. Have always suffered with low dopamine levels and after watching Dr. , the Dallas Thyroid doctor, he said low dopamine = low serotonin = haywire sugar levels = messed up thyroid. This struck a chord with me. Fingers crossed anyway. Love, Jane > > Jane, > > > so.... you need Iron, B12 and zinc.... > > I take it that your main complaint is fatigue? > > x > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Hi Jane: You Ferritin levels should be OVER 100...I would shoot for 110. You will start to feel good again about 70-90 but you levels need to be much higher than that.... Cheers, JOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 ok Jot, thanks, Jane > > > > Hi Jane: > > You Ferritin levels should be OVER 100...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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