Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Might I add that, maybe, you're going for " Overkill " I've been brewing for about 18 months now, with normal kitchen methods more or less as seen on " Instructibles " (Sp?) Youtube and the only *one* mo(u)ld attack I ever had was the time when I got distracted and expected a brew to develop without adding either starter *or* SCOBY. :¬)) I do vinegar rinse my paws before handling one and that's about it . From: LaGrand <deniselagrand@...> kombucha tea Sent: Thursday, 18 December, 2008 21:33:08 Subject: Re: What Should I Do? i agree with Bev, but will also add that i don't think you need to throw out your KT. in general, unless it has mold or tastes bad, i consider it safe to drink. it is normal for your KT consumption to vary with your body needs. dl ________________________________ From: lawrencetenzer <ltenzer@...> kombucha tea Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:08:36 PM Subject: What Should I Do? I have a situation and do not know what to do. This is what happened: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Might I add that, maybe, you're going for " Overkill " I've been brewing for about 18 months now, with normal kitchen methods more or less as seen on " Instructibles " (Sp?) Youtube and the only *one* mo(u)ld attack I ever had was the time when I got distracted and expected a brew to develop without adding either starter *or* SCOBY. :¬)) I do vinegar rinse my paws before handling one and that's about it . From: LaGrand <deniselagrand@...> kombucha tea Sent: Thursday, 18 December, 2008 21:33:08 Subject: Re: What Should I Do? i agree with Bev, but will also add that i don't think you need to throw out your KT. in general, unless it has mold or tastes bad, i consider it safe to drink. it is normal for your KT consumption to vary with your body needs. dl ________________________________ From: lawrencetenzer <ltenzer@...> kombucha tea Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:08:36 PM Subject: What Should I Do? I have a situation and do not know what to do. This is what happened: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 I'm not even that careful. -Patty > > Might I add that, maybe, you're going for " Overkill " > I do vinegar rinse my paws before handling one and that's about it > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 I'm not even that careful. -Patty > > Might I add that, maybe, you're going for " Overkill " > I do vinegar rinse my paws before handling one and that's about it > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Same here. Kombucha is forgiving. Do you think the original kt makers disinfected everything with vinegar? :-) Rodrick Re: What Should I Do? I'm not even that careful. -Patty > > Might I add that, maybe, you're going for " Overkill " > I do vinegar rinse my paws before handling one and that's about it > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Same here. Kombucha is forgiving. Do you think the original kt makers disinfected everything with vinegar? :-) Rodrick Re: What Should I Do? I'm not even that careful. -Patty > > Might I add that, maybe, you're going for " Overkill " > I do vinegar rinse my paws before handling one and that's about it > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 You and I and all of us are absolutely legally bout to report suspected child abuse such as this case to the local police department who will perform an initial investigation and subsequently turn the case over to the Department of Human Services Child Welfare Department for further investigation. Failure to report puts you at risk Joan not the reverse as this is serious business a child's life may be at risk. Lastly it matters not that the child nor the custodial parent are patients you must report this situation immediately! You and this child will be in my prayers, Please let me know if I can help further, Vern SAboe What should I do? I am aware that a child of a patient (very small 6 years old) may be being abused by the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent is my patient and brought this child in when coming for a visit. I am NOT the physician for this child or for the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent states that the custodial parent does not love the child and is using this child to "get" at my patient. This custodial parent appears to have arranged for "accidents" to happen to this child. Most recently a 30 inch TV fell on the child hurting the neck. I am told the judge in the case is on the side of the custodial parent and things will not change. Do I have either a responsibility here or a reasonable option to take action and it so, what? I also feel it's important for me to not risk my license in this process. Joan Schultze, DC (503) 636-6186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 You and I and all of us are absolutely legally bout to report suspected child abuse such as this case to the local police department who will perform an initial investigation and subsequently turn the case over to the Department of Human Services Child Welfare Department for further investigation. Failure to report puts you at risk Joan not the reverse as this is serious business a child's life may be at risk. Lastly it matters not that the child nor the custodial parent are patients you must report this situation immediately! You and this child will be in my prayers, Please let me know if I can help further, Vern SAboe What should I do? I am aware that a child of a patient (very small 6 years old) may be being abused by the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent is my patient and brought this child in when coming for a visit. I am NOT the physician for this child or for the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent states that the custodial parent does not love the child and is using this child to "get" at my patient. This custodial parent appears to have arranged for "accidents" to happen to this child. Most recently a 30 inch TV fell on the child hurting the neck. I am told the judge in the case is on the side of the custodial parent and things will not change. Do I have either a responsibility here or a reasonable option to take action and it so, what? I also feel it's important for me to not risk my license in this process. Joan Schultze, DC (503) 636-6186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Joan, you're required by law to report to the local police. Do your best to remain neutral and think of yourself as the child's advocate. Best to you. It's a difficult situation. Minga Guerrero DC In a message dated 1/7/2010 7:34:50 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, joanschultze@... writes: I am aware that a child of a patient (very small 6 years old) may be being abused by the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent is my patient and brought this child in when coming for a visit. I am NOT the physician for this child or for the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent states that the custodial parent does not love the child and is using this child to "get" at my patient. This custodial parent appears to have arranged for "accidents" to happen to this child. Most recently a 30 inch TV fell on the child hurting the neck. I am told the judge in the case is on the side of the custodial parent and things will not change. Do I have either a responsibility here or a reasonable option to take action and it so, what? I also feel it's important for me to not risk my license in this process. Joan Schultze, DC (503) 636-6186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Might be a bad guy to the parents but a hero for the child! (if it is founded… which is law enforcements job)IMHO DR. CHARLES A CAUGHLIN DC CAC 155 NW 1ST JOHN DAY, OR 97845 541-575-1063 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of rongrice01 Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:14 PM Subject: What should I do? Joan. If I were you, I would be very careful about taking sides in this issue. While you should contact the police department and let them know what was told to you, I would be careful about taking every comment that your patient stated as " fact " . It sounds, at least from what you have posted, that the patient may be trying to sway you onto his/her side. You are a sympathetic ear, and EVERYONE ELSE is against your patient, even the judge. Be careful of getting into the middle of two parents trying to tear each other apart, using the child as the battering ram. You will be left in the dust. I have contacted the police in the past with a situation like this. What the police stated was we, as providers, are protected from being sued if we report this type of behavior. Just be ready to be the bad gal/guy. Grice, DC Albany, OR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Joan, Must report. Sad but true. It also helps the rest of us hold ourselves to this standard. When we learn of suspected or real abuse, the law is rarely this clear. Do not judge. Report. Assume that the authorities will do the right thing with the information. You’ll be wrong, sometimes. My prayers are also with the child and parents in this situation. E. Abrahamson, D.C. Chiropractic physician Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic 315 Second Street Lake Oswego, OR 97034 503-635-6246 Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com From: Joan Schultze <joanschultze@...> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:34:48 -0800 < > Subject: What should I do? I am aware that a child of a patient (very small 6 years old) may be being abused by the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent is my patient and brought this child in when coming for a visit. I am NOT the physician for this child or for the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent states that the custodial parent does not love the child and is using this child to " get " at my patient. This custodial parent appears to have arranged for " accidents " to happen to this child. Most recently a 30 inch TV fell on the child hurting the neck. I am told the judge in the case is on the side of the custodial parent and things will not change. Do I have either a responsibility here or a reasonable option to take action and it so, what? I also feel it's important for me to not risk my license in this process. Joan Schultze, DC (503) 636-6186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Joan, Must report. Sad but true. It also helps the rest of us hold ourselves to this standard. When we learn of suspected or real abuse, the law is rarely this clear. Do not judge. Report. Assume that the authorities will do the right thing with the information. You’ll be wrong, sometimes. My prayers are also with the child and parents in this situation. E. Abrahamson, D.C. Chiropractic physician Lake Oswego Chiropractic Clinic 315 Second Street Lake Oswego, OR 97034 503-635-6246 Website: http://www.lakeoswegochiro.com From: Joan Schultze <joanschultze@...> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:34:48 -0800 < > Subject: What should I do? I am aware that a child of a patient (very small 6 years old) may be being abused by the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent is my patient and brought this child in when coming for a visit. I am NOT the physician for this child or for the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent states that the custodial parent does not love the child and is using this child to " get " at my patient. This custodial parent appears to have arranged for " accidents " to happen to this child. Most recently a 30 inch TV fell on the child hurting the neck. I am told the judge in the case is on the side of the custodial parent and things will not change. Do I have either a responsibility here or a reasonable option to take action and it so, what? I also feel it's important for me to not risk my license in this process. Joan Schultze, DC (503) 636-6186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Besides the legal obligation, especially now that you have reported this on this list BUT you have a moral obligation to yourself to God to do what is right for his child... You should step in without any concern what so ever and report this to social services and anyone else to make the point that this needed immediate attention. These people need to be hung along with the judge if he does nothing after you reporting it. Matter of fact if he does nothing I would begin to write letter about his non action to this situation. I had the same thing, but I did not take it laying down. I went beyond this judge with my own attorney to the supreme court, now there is a new law and the judge was removed from his position. There are people that hate this type of judge that turns his head away and will take action... It takes you do make it happen though. NOT ONE MORE DAY OF ABUSE THIS CHILD NEEDS TO BE REMOVED AND PUT INTO SAFETY WITH LOVE AROUND THEM. Everyday this child experiences abuse he becomes a damaged product that will grow up and possible hurt other themselves. STOP IT NOW AND STOP WORRYING ABOUT YOURSELF. Sorry that I feel so strong and have to say this to you, but this should not have even been a question for you. Dr.Wiese D.C From: Joan Schultze <joanschultze@...>Subject: What should I do? Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 7:34 AM I am aware that a child of a patient (very small 6 years old) may be being abused by the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent is my patient and brought this child in when coming for a visit. I am NOT the physician for this child or for the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent states that the custodial parent does not love the child and is using this child to "get" at my patient. This custodial parent appears to have arranged for "accidents" to happen to this child. Most recently a 30 inch TV fell on the child hurting the neck. I am told the judge in the case is on the side of the custodial parent and things will not change. Do I have either a responsibility here or a reasonable option to take action and it so, what? I also feel it's important for me to not risk my license in this process. Joan Schultze, DC (503) 636-6186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Besides the legal obligation, especially now that you have reported this on this list BUT you have a moral obligation to yourself to God to do what is right for his child... You should step in without any concern what so ever and report this to social services and anyone else to make the point that this needed immediate attention. These people need to be hung along with the judge if he does nothing after you reporting it. Matter of fact if he does nothing I would begin to write letter about his non action to this situation. I had the same thing, but I did not take it laying down. I went beyond this judge with my own attorney to the supreme court, now there is a new law and the judge was removed from his position. There are people that hate this type of judge that turns his head away and will take action... It takes you do make it happen though. NOT ONE MORE DAY OF ABUSE THIS CHILD NEEDS TO BE REMOVED AND PUT INTO SAFETY WITH LOVE AROUND THEM. Everyday this child experiences abuse he becomes a damaged product that will grow up and possible hurt other themselves. STOP IT NOW AND STOP WORRYING ABOUT YOURSELF. Sorry that I feel so strong and have to say this to you, but this should not have even been a question for you. Dr.Wiese D.C From: Joan Schultze <joanschultze@...>Subject: What should I do? Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 7:34 AM I am aware that a child of a patient (very small 6 years old) may be being abused by the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent is my patient and brought this child in when coming for a visit. I am NOT the physician for this child or for the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent states that the custodial parent does not love the child and is using this child to "get" at my patient. This custodial parent appears to have arranged for "accidents" to happen to this child. Most recently a 30 inch TV fell on the child hurting the neck. I am told the judge in the case is on the side of the custodial parent and things will not change. Do I have either a responsibility here or a reasonable option to take action and it so, what? I also feel it's important for me to not risk my license in this process. Joan Schultze, DC (503) 636-6186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010  Thanks for your information, and for all who took the time to reply. It is so appreciated. Joan Schultze, DC What should I do? I am aware that a child of a patient (very small 6 years old) may be being abused by the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent is my patient and brought this child in when coming for a visit. I am NOT the physician for this child or for the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent states that the custodial parent does not love the child and is using this child to "get" at my patient. This custodial parent appears to have arranged for "accidents" to happen to this child. Most recently a 30 inch TV fell on the child hurting the neck. I am told the judge in the case is on the side of the custodial parent and things will not change. Do I have either a responsibility here or a reasonable option to take action and it so, what? I also feel it's important for me to not risk my license in this process. Joan Schultze, DC (503) 636-6186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010  Thanks for your information, and for all who took the time to reply. It is so appreciated. Joan Schultze, DC What should I do? I am aware that a child of a patient (very small 6 years old) may be being abused by the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent is my patient and brought this child in when coming for a visit. I am NOT the physician for this child or for the custodial parent. The non-custodial parent states that the custodial parent does not love the child and is using this child to "get" at my patient. This custodial parent appears to have arranged for "accidents" to happen to this child. Most recently a 30 inch TV fell on the child hurting the neck. I am told the judge in the case is on the side of the custodial parent and things will not change. Do I have either a responsibility here or a reasonable option to take action and it so, what? I also feel it's important for me to not risk my license in this process. Joan Schultze, DC (503) 636-6186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 I've had a seven year journey through the maze of incompetence that is the NHS. I've been in the care of our local endos for two years now. In nine visits I have seen seven different doctors, despite insisting each time on seeing the Clinical Director only, and it is only on the two occasions I have seen him that I have made any progress at all. I've also seen a haematologist who doesn't know the difference between haemoglobin and ferritin and considered my symptoms to be caused by work related stress instead of chronically low ferritin! I've been told by the Clinical Director that if I can find someone I trust to inject me I can get my own iron injections, but I can't get a prescription for the iron because of the risks. This consultant has now put it in writing that he thinks I need iron therapy, but says that it is not available at this hospital, which is absolutely not true. I have been on T3 for 12 months now and am perhaps 80% well, but have real problems with weight gain and hair loss. I have struggled with dosage all along, possibly because of the low iron issue. I have been in correspondence with the Clinical Director, but he has not engaged with any of the issues I have raised with him regarding the iron therapy that he says I need and the difficulty in getting appointments . Furthermore, he is backing his registrar and insisting that I need to take my T3 before my next blood test so that I do now show a falsely low result. I am considering whether I can face making a formal complaint, which I suspect will make no difference to the way I am treated or whether to simply self treat and try Erfa. My daughter is getting married next September and it is important to me that by then I have a full head of hair and am not a size 18 instead of the 12 I was when I started T3 in December 2010. D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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