Re: My latest results after birth

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, I think you need to look into whether you are suffering

with low adrenal reserve, as the symptoms you are suffering could be down to

that. Is there any way you can get the 24 hour salivary adrenal profile done to

see whether this is the cause. Especially going through your pregnancy

and now the birth of little Stella (who I hope is being good).

Also, a free T4 level of 22 shows that it probably is not

converting to the active thyroid hormone T3 - do you have a result for free T3

and exactly how much T4 and T3 are you now taking?

Luv - Sheila

Hi I should get my t3 results this afternoon

but I'm starting to feel very emotional and snappy, I've started a number of

vitamins. I've started on omega 3 I've felt like this could this be the cause.

The midwife yet again said I should not take omega 3 without taking omega 6. Is

this correct ?

My t4 result Is 22 range 10 to 26

Any help would be so much help

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Hi Sheila

Stella is doing great she had her hypo test done and she is fine. She is

perfectly healthy.

Pre pregnancy I was on 162 if t4 and 30 if t3 but during pregnancy I increased

t4 to 175 and I decreasedmy t3 to 25 as it went very high. Since giving birth

I've decreased my t4 back to my prepregnancy dose of 162 of t4 but I've kept my

t3 a 25.

My iron has also risen from 26 to 50 as I rake solgars gental iron. I so have

vit b12 injections so this all helps my thyroid. Do you think maybe I could be

on too much t4

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> adrenal reserve, as the symptoms you are suffering could be down to that.

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[Guest guest]

hello rachel

omega 3 and omega 6 probably need to be in a ratio of 1:1 ...however these days

the ratio is skewed to pretty high omega 6 and pretty low omega 3. omega 3 fats

are used by the body to produce series 1 and 3 prostaglandins that are

ANTI-inflammatory hormone like molecules. series 2 prostaglandins are

PRO-inflammatory molecules produced from fats such as omega 6 fats. i think the

reason omega 3 can help with depression (amongst other thigs) may well be due to

their ANTI-inflammatory effect.

omega 6 is found in polyunsaturated fats ...vegetables oils for example

(sunflower oil, canola oil...oils that are liquid even at low tempertures).

unless the midwife knows the precise detail of your diet, i would say her

comment about not taking omega 3 without taking omega 6 is pretty

unhelpful/uneducated/useless.

as far as i am concerned an exceptionally healthy oil to use would be olive oil

(preferably organic)... that is a mono-unsaturated oil and contains oleiac acid

which is omega 9. (the only caution with it that i know of might be in relation

to gall bladder problems)

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-oleic-acid.htm

if your diet has a good amount of omega 3 and omega 6 then the body can

synthesise a certain amount of omega 9 anyway (which is why omega 9 is not

called an *essential* fatty acid.

it might be helpful for you to take something like evening primrose oil or

borage/starflower oil (both omega 6) as well as your omega 3 supplement ...my

own preference for omega 3 is to take krill oil because it is so low down the

food chain that it has less chance of being contaminated with all the nasties

(mercury etc).

> My t4 result Is 22 range 10 to 26

is that free t4 or total t4?

best wishes

trish

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> Hi I should get my t3 results this afternoon but I'm starting to feel very

emotional and snappy, I've started a number of vitamins. I've started on omega

3 I've felt like this could this be the cause. The midwife yet again said I

should not take omega 3 without taking omega 6. Is this correct ?

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> My t4 result Is 22 range 10 to 26

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> Any help would be so much help

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[Guest guest]

You might be on too much T4 - how do you actually arrive

at taking 162mcgs thyroxine? If this is not all converting to the active T3 it

can cause symptoms of toxicity as it is lying in the blood with nowhere to go. You

may be better off by dropping the thyroxine and adding in more T3 until you

find the level your body is happiest with, but this you won't know unless you

give it a try. Talk to your doctor about this.

You keep shying away from the question of whether you might be

suffering with low adrenal reserve in not giving me an answer. Have you done

the adrenal questionnaire - you will find this in our FILES SECTION of this

Forum under the FOLDER entitled 'Adrenals'. Scroll down there until you find

'Adrenal Questionnaire' - answer all the questions and let us know how you

score.

Luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila

Stella is doing great she had her hypo test done and she is fine. She is

perfectly healthy.

Pre pregnancy I was on 162 if t4 and 30 if t3 but during pregnancy I increased

t4 to 175 and I decreasedmy t3 to 25 as it went very high. Since giving birth

I've decreased my t4 back to my prepregnancy dose of 162 of t4 but I've kept my

t3 a 25.

My iron has also risen from 26 to 50 as I rake solgars gental iron. I so have

vit b12 injections so this all helps my thyroid. Do you think maybe I could be

on too much t4

x

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> , I think you need to look into whether you are suffering with low

> adrenal reserve, as the symptoms you are suffering could be down to that.

old stuff deleted (sigh!)

Moderator

[Guest guest]

Hi trish

Thank you so much for your reply and the information I have found it very

useful. My diet is very low fat and I don't use many oils to be honest only

because I struggle with my weight with being on thyroid meds I eat a very low

fat diet. But I will start taking some of the oils you mentioned which have

omega 6 in the help balance the ratio out. I may try the evening primrose oil as

I believe that can help with pmt which I suffer from severley so I get two

benefits.

Thanks again x

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> omega 3 and omega 6 probably need to be in a ratio of 1:1 ...however these

days the ratio is skewed to pretty high omega 6 and pretty low omega 3. omega 3

fats are used by the body to produce series 1 and 3 prostaglandins that are

ANTI-inflammatory hormone like molecules. series 2 prostaglandins are

PRO-inflammatory molecules produced from fats such as omega 6 fats. i think the

reason omega 3 can help with depression (amongst other thigs) may well be due to

their ANTI-inflammatory effect.

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[Guest guest]

hello again rachel

i believe it is anti-health to be very low fat ...i also believe it is

inappropriate amounts and types of carbs and too much fructose that cause weight

problems. fructose is not metabolised in the same way as other sugars, causes

insulin regulation dysfunction and also very quickly gets laid down as stored

fat. even if fresh oranges are squeezed for an apparently healthy drink, the

amount of fructose is pretty high ...eating the whole organge (for example)gives

the body fibre to deal with at the same time and thus derfays the negative

impact of the fructose.

you may have heard about high fructose corn syrup ...that damaging substance is

ubiquitous nowadays in virtually all processed foods (it is cheap!).

our bodies absolutely need fats/oils and some good quality saturated fat on a

daily basis ....the adrenal glands thrive on it for one thing ...the brain also

needs proper fats to function well. as far as i am concerned the fats to avoid

like the plague are transfats (often called hydrogenated fats, they have had a

hydrogen atom attached). i also don't like poly unsaturated fatty acids

(PUFAS)e.g. sunflower oil, canola oil (rapeseed oil).

do you eat any nuts and seeds? generally speaking, nuts contain omega 6 fatty

acids (and protein) plus all sorts of other vitamins and minerals. i think you

were asking the other day about supplementing with calcium but it would be

better to get calcium from your diet ...sesame seeds are an excellent source.

do you mind me asking why you think you need calcium?

http://www.healthalternatives2000.com/nut-seed-nutrition-chart.html

do you drink a good amount of pure water on a daily basis (sipping regularly

throughout the day is preferable to drinking a big glass all in one go)

....proper hydration should help with weight.

do you eat breakfast?

pmt is horrible all round ...have you ever had your estrogen/progesterone

checked? ...i believe estrogen dominance can be implicated.

best wishes

trish

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> Hi trish

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> Thank you so much for your reply and the information I have found it very

useful. My diet is very low fat and I don't use many oils to be honest only

because I struggle with my weight with being on thyroid meds I eat a very low

fat diet. But I will start taking some of the oils you mentioned which have

omega 6 in the help balance the ratio out. I may try the evening primrose oil as

I believe that can help with pmt which I suffer from severley so I get two

benefits.

[Guest guest]

I have turned my diet on its head since making the basic correlation between

hunger, fats and carbohydrates. Especially wheat, (read 'wheat belly by

Dr.,

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wheat-Belly---MD/dp/1609611543/ref=sr_1_1?ie\

=UTF8 & qid=1322392328 & sr=8-1 'Look inside is available) .

My husband is stick thin, he eats butter slathered on with a trowel, he loves

fried bread, fried eggs, oil dressings of all sorts, yet he doesn't put on

weight, more pertinantly he isn't HUNGRY all the time (he has other problems but

more to do with not liking veg) . When I dropped all wheat, then most grains and

went low carb, but upped my fats, I stopped being hungry, my meal sizes are

much, much smaller, I don't eat between meals anymore and my calorie intake has

dropped, easily and comfortably from 2200 kcals a day, to between 900 and

1600kcals a day. My weight is finally starting to move downwards.

Fat is NOT the culprit in weight problems, in fact you are depriving yourself of

a massive amount of FAT SOLUBLE Vitamins and mineral. Start eating good fats

again, it will help tremendously.

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> hello again rachel

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> i believe it is anti-health to be very low fat ...i also believe it is

inappropriate amounts and types of carbs and too much fructose that cause weight

problems. fructose is not metabolised in the same way as other sugars, causes

insulin regulation dysfunction and also very quickly gets laid down as stored

fat. even if fresh oranges are squeezed for an apparently healthy drink, the

amount of fructose is pretty high ...eating the whole organge (for example)gives

the body fibre to deal with at the same time and thus derfays the negative

impact of the fructose.