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From: loriannlocke <loriannlocke@...>Subject: progress100-plus Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 4:28 PM

I recently posted my monthly progress pics, inches lost, and weight training stats on my blog. Should anyone care to take a look, here's a link to the post:http://amazonrunner.blogspot.com/2009/09/monthly-progress-report-wpics.html#linksAlso, in my motivational links area (on the right side of my journal entries) I put a link to this group. Many of the women who visit my blog have 100 or more to lose.I didn't lose as much around the middle (my prob area) as I wanted this month and that put me in a funk over the weekend, along with some other stuff. I spent most of my time talking myself out of being a complete and total butthole and eating like a pig.Somehow I survived without damaging my progress. Anyway, it's a new day and a new week.

Onward!Lori-Ann------------------------------------

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Wow, Lori-Ann! I can see a real difference between the two photos. Your

midriff is considerably smaller in the second photo.

I have a friend who's lost a lot of weight. She saw herself on camera

the other day and was shocked at how thin her face looked. She said,

"When I look in the mirror, I still see this round little face staring

back at me. I still think of myself as fat, and that's what I see."

I wonder if you're doing something like that. I've heard that it's not

uncommon for people who have lost weight to still think of themselves

as overweight. Give yourself credit, girl. You're doing great!

Hugs,

Kay

loriannlocke wrote:

I recently posted my monthly progress pics, inches lost, and

weight training stats on my blog. Should anyone care to take a look,

here's a link to the post:

http://amazonrunner.blogspot.com/2009/09/monthly-progress-report-wpics.html#links

Also, in my motivational links area (on the right side of my journal

entries) I put a link to this group. Many of the women who visit my

blog have 100 or more to lose.

I didn't lose as much around the middle (my prob area) as I wanted this

month and that put me in a funk over the weekend, along with some other

stuff. I spent most of my time talking myself out of being a complete

and total butthole and eating like a pig.

Somehow I survived without damaging my progress. Anyway, it's a new day

and a new week. Onward!

Lori-Ann

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Hi Lori-Ann

I've been following your blog with a great deal of interest and I'm thrilled for

you how different you look in your 'before' and 'after' pics - it's REALLY

noticeable, whatever you may believe!

It's funny, but what Kay says is true - when I originally got my weight down

from 420lbs to 175lbs (a little lower for a few weeks, but I stabilised at that

weight for a few years) in 2002/2003 I knew I was a LOT slimmer but I still felt

really chunky and thought I could do with losing more weight. Friends and

family (and my doctor) were begging me not to lose any more as my ribs were

actually poking out through my clothes, I'd lost that much fat! Like you, I'm

pretty tall with a very large frame and it's only now when I see pics of back

then that I realise how slim I actually was. Now, I think a reasonable weight

for me would be somewhere between 175lbs and 190lbs.

Keep up the good work! It's great you're so motivated that a perceived (albeit

not true!) setback hasn't knocked you off course!

Bye for now

Patsy x

>

> I recently posted my monthly progress pics, inches lost, and weight training

stats on my blog. Should anyone care to take a look, here's a link to the post:

>

>

http://amazonrunner.blogspot.com/2009/09/monthly-progress-report-wpics.html#link\

s

>

> Also, in my motivational links area (on the right side of my journal entries)

I put a link to this group. Many of the women who visit my blog have 100 or

more to lose.

>

> I didn't lose as much around the middle (my prob area) as I wanted this month

and that put me in a funk over the weekend, along with some other stuff. I

spent most of my time talking myself out of being a complete and total butthole

and eating like a pig.

>

> Somehow I survived without damaging my progress. Anyway, it's a new day and a

new week. Onward!

>

> Lori-Ann

>

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Wow Loriann! Those pictures

are amazing - you can definitely tell! All my weight is in my middle too ...

and for some reason known only to God ... I keep losing from other areas! Yes,

it's totally frustrating! Your commitment is awesome ... I have no doubt that

you'll make it all the way!

Hugs,

Babette

Highest Weight: 410

Restart 7-25-09

260/246.6/160

If I BITE it, I WRITE it!

From:

100-plus [mailto:100-plus ] On Behalf Of loriannlocke

Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 4:29 PM

100-plus

Subject: progress

I recently posted my monthly progress pics,

inches lost, and weight training stats on my blog. Should anyone care to take a

look, here's a link to the post:

http://amazonrunner.blogspot.com/2009/09/monthly-progress-report-wpics.html#links

Also, in my motivational links area (on the right side of my journal entries) I

put a link to this group. Many of the women who visit my blog have 100 or more

to lose.

I didn't lose as much around the middle (my prob area) as I wanted this month

and that put me in a funk over the weekend, along with some other stuff. I

spent most of my time talking myself out of being a complete and total butthole

and eating like a pig.

Somehow I survived without damaging my progress. Anyway, it's a new day and a

new week. Onward!

Lori-Ann

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babette wrote:

" All my weight is in my middle too ... and for some reason known only to God ...

I keep losing from other areas! Yes, it's totally frustrating! "

Babette,

I can't believe, with the massive gut that I have, that mother nature would

cause me to lose twice as many inches off the chest than off the hips.

LOL, I mean,, HELLO.

There are a lot of good online resources that help me stay motivated. THis

group is one of them. Thank God for the internet. DH and I share a car so I am

at home all day with no wheels. If it weren't for the internet and groups like

this, I'd be completely isolated.

xoxo

Lori-Ann

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LOL LOL ... well, I have NO

bottom ... yet, there went some more! LOL I work from home, so if you ever

want to chat ... just email me!

Hugs,

Babette

Highest Weight: 410

Restart 7-25-09

260/246.6/160

If I BITE it, I WRITE it!

From:

100-plus [mailto:100-plus ] On Behalf Of loriannlocke

Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 12:58 PM

100-plus

Subject: Re: progress

babette wrote:

" All my weight is in my middle too ... and for some reason known only to

God ... I keep losing from other areas! Yes, it's totally frustrating! "

Babette,

I can't believe, with the massive gut that I have, that mother nature would

cause me to lose twice as many inches off the chest than off the hips.

LOL, I mean,, HELLO.

There are a lot of good online resources that help me stay motivated. THis

group is one of them. Thank God for the internet. DH and I share a car so I am

at home all day with no wheels. If it weren't for the internet and groups like

this, I'd be completely isolated.

xoxo

Lori-Ann

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> I can't believe, with the massive gut that I have, that mother nature

would cause me to lose twice as many inches off the chest than off the

hips.

>

> LOL, I mean,, HELLO.

LOL Yeah, I know what you mean! I lose first in my face, the back fat,

and boobs, even my *legs* before even a half inch comes off the waist

area. My girls are *sooo* droopy.

Sue in NJ

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" Droopy Girls "

........ amen sista! lol

Hugs,

Babette

Highest Weight: 410

Restart 7-25-09

260/246.6/160

If I BITE it, I WRITE it!

From:

100-plus [mailto:100-plus ] On Behalf Of Sue

in NJ

Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:28 PM

100-plus

Subject: Re: Re: progress

> I can't believe, with the massive gut that

I have, that mother nature

would cause me to lose twice as many inches off the chest than off the

hips.

>

> LOL, I mean,, HELLO.

LOL Yeah, I know what you mean! I lose first in my face, the back fat,

and boobs, even my *legs* before even a half inch comes off the waist

area. My girls are *sooo* droopy.

Sue in NJ

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In a message dated 25/02/2010 23:22:19 GMT Standard Time, andrea.edmondson@... writes:

Do you know why some children struggle with the fish oils?? i'm trying desperately to get started but honestly he goes stim crazy whenever i try...

>>Willis used to say do 6 weeks of priming with EPO before starting CLO and it eases the way. It did for us way back when

Mandi x

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In a message dated 25/02/2010 21:27:34 GMT Standard Time, bbuyonline@... writes:

didn't make it onto the "jacuzzi hot list"

>>So sorry, not by name but by GAPS progress request lol

been GAPS for one year almost and have seen fantastic results, extremely obvious effect on growth (gone from skinny to beautifully cuddly) and substantially taller, appetite excellent and bowel much improved, using only a maintenance dose of oxypowder.

>>This is brill, in fact best reponse I have seen reported I think!

tried MMS (very hard to take) with all the family and got up to a substantial amount of drops, for 3 months, then dropped to maintenance dose. had dramatic results to begin, with interesting poo colours, rashes, usual die off symptoms etc, then no changes. we mainly did this for parasites (blasto), but i'm pretty sure it hasn't been effective for getting rid of it. i'm doing a stool sample this weekend and will post if it has so others can try it.

>>yes will be interested in that one. We haven;t used it since we started our KIB journey. Not sure where we are with it, seemed to do best on weekly dosing I think, will stick to weekly until Easter hols and then do a few days in a row and see how it goes. Trouble is in the hols he does a lot of swimming and a lot of swallowing of pool water which kinda messes everything up

changed to transdermal MB12 from injections, after first night of applying it, he said 2 words together for the first time "yellow banana", so i believe its more effective for eddie that the injections.

>>WOW - do you use it daily? TSmaller daily doses seemed to suit Sam better than the bigger ones less often

been using OSR (coupled with brainbow) for 4 months, huge language and interactive gains.

>>Double WOW - what is Brainbow?

overall, good and steady changes with a happier, talker! which he wasn't a year ago, so fantastic results with biomed to report.

>>I want talking too............

next step to do genova chelation panel and breakspear faecal metal testing to see what's happening with OSR.

>>What is chelation panel?

also going to start KiB500 this weekend. will report any goods and bads.

>>Good luck and thanks for posting, great news

Mandi x

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Hi,

Great to read about your son's progress!! Especially when you can actually measure it in terms of his growth and general health. We are using Brainbow too. How many capsules do you give per day? What is OSR? Is it meant to be used in conjunction with Brainbow?

Lastly, where do you get the transdermal MB12 from?

Thanks,

Jane

progress

hididn't make it onto the "jacuzzi hot list" but it reminded me that i hadn't taken an objective look at how things are going with eddie (age 11 now!) for sometime. thought i would summarize in case anything useful for others:been GAPS for one year almost and have seen fantastic results, extremely obvious effect on growth (gone from skinny to beautifully cuddly) and substantially taller, appetite excellent and bowel much improved, using only a maintenance dose of oxypowder.done 3 years of the listening programme, calmer, more focused when listening and immediately afterwards and more focused in general. this i believe has also helped with speech.did julie's (griffiths on this list) "adrenal" and "thyroid" support protocol last summer, with amazing results, his temperature went up by quite a bit: Before intervention: Mean temp. 35.8After intervention: Mean temp: 36.3. improvements we saw were obvious with a calmer eddie and more gains in speech and spontaneous interactions.tried MMS (very hard to take) with all the family and got up to a substantial amount of drops, for 3 months, then dropped to maintenance dose. had dramatic results to begin, with interesting poo colours, rashes, usual die off symptoms etc, then no changes. we mainly did this for parasites (blasto), but i'm pretty sure it hasn't been effective for getting rid of it. i'm doing a stool sample this weekend and will post if it has so others can try it.changed to transdermal MB12 from injections, after first night of applying it, he said 2 words together for the first time "yellow banana", so i believe its more effective for eddie that the injections.been using OSR (coupled with brainbow) for 4 months, huge language and interactive gains.increased cod liver oil and added in fish oil (thorne super EPA) to tackle bumpy skin on his arms and face, massive stimming, crying for months to follow - despite going very slowly - until it finally settled. i only managed to get up to half the dose i wanted. daren't push it further, still have mild bumpy rash on arms and face.increased K2 to tackle greying teeth, somewhat successful, but not 100%overall, good and steady changes with a happier, talker! which he wasn't a year ago, so fantastic results with biomed to report.next step to do genova chelation panel and breakspear faecal metal testing to see what's happening with OSR.also going to start KiB500 this weekend. will report any goods and bads.karenza

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yeah, go Eddie!!!!!!!! Onwards and upwards

Natasa x

hi

didn't make it onto the " jacuzzi hot list " but it reminded me that i hadn't taken an objective look at how things are going with eddie (age 11 now!) for sometime. thought i would summarize in case anything useful for others:

been GAPS for one year almost and have seen fantastic results, extremely obvious effect on growth (gone from skinny to beautifully cuddly) and substantially taller, appetite excellent and bowel much improved, using only a maintenance dose of oxypowder.

done 3 years of the listening programme, calmer, more focused when listening and immediately afterwards and more focused in general. this i believe has also helped with speech.

did julie's (griffiths on this list) " adrenal " and " thyroid " support protocol last summer, with amazing results, his temperature went up by quite a bit: Before intervention: Mean temp. 35.8

After intervention: Mean temp: 36.3. improvements we saw were obvious with a calmer eddie and more gains in speech and spontaneous interactions.

tried MMS (very hard to take) with all the family and got up to a substantial amount of drops, for 3 months, then dropped to maintenance dose. had dramatic results to begin, with interesting poo colours, rashes, usual die off symptoms etc, then no changes. we mainly did this for parasites (blasto), but i'm pretty sure it hasn't been effective for getting rid of it. i'm doing a stool sample this weekend and will post if it has so others can try it.

changed to transdermal MB12 from injections, after first night of applying it, he said 2 words together for the first time " yellow banana " , so i believe its more effective for eddie that the injections.

been using OSR (coupled with brainbow) for 4 months, huge language and interactive gains.

increased cod liver oil and added in fish oil (thorne super EPA) to tackle bumpy skin on his arms and face, massive stimming, crying for months to follow - despite going very slowly - until it finally settled. i only managed to get up to half the dose i wanted. daren't push it further, still have mild bumpy rash on arms and face.

increased K2 to tackle greying teeth, somewhat successful, but not 100%

overall, good and steady changes with a happier, talker! which he wasn't a year ago, so fantastic results with biomed to report.

next step to do genova chelation panel and breakspear faecal metal testing to see what's happening with OSR.

also going to start KiB500 this weekend. will report any goods and bads.

karenza

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Hi za

Read your post with interest.... starts TLP next month, so pleasing to here

about Eddie's gains with this...I'd be interested to hear about the thyroid and

adrenal support protocol. Do you know why some children struggle with the fish

oils?? i'm trying desperately to get started but honestly he goes stim

crazy whenever i try...

x

>

> hi

>

> didn't make it onto the " jacuzzi hot list " but it reminded me that i hadn't

taken an objective look at how things are going with eddie (age 11 now!) for

sometime. thought i would summarize in case anything useful for others:

>

> been GAPS for one year almost and have seen fantastic results, extremely

obvious effect on growth (gone from skinny to beautifully cuddly) and

substantially taller, appetite excellent and bowel much improved, using only a

maintenance dose of oxypowder.

>

> done 3 years of the listening programme, calmer, more focused when listening

and immediately afterwards and more focused in general. this i believe has also

helped with speech.

>

> did julie's (griffiths on this list) " adrenal " and " thyroid " support protocol

last summer, with amazing results, his temperature went up by quite a bit:

Before intervention: Mean temp. 35.8

> After intervention: Mean temp: 36.3. improvements we saw were obvious with a

calmer eddie and more gains in speech and spontaneous interactions.

>

> tried MMS (very hard to take) with all the family and got up to a substantial

amount of drops, for 3 months, then dropped to maintenance dose. had dramatic

results to begin, with interesting poo colours, rashes, usual die off symptoms

etc, then no changes. we mainly did this for parasites (blasto), but i'm pretty

sure it hasn't been effective for getting rid of it. i'm doing a stool sample

this weekend and will post if it has so others can try it.

>

> changed to transdermal MB12 from injections, after first night of applying it,

he said 2 words together for the first time " yellow banana " , so i believe its

more effective for eddie that the injections.

>

> been using OSR (coupled with brainbow) for 4 months, huge language and

interactive gains.

>

> increased cod liver oil and added in fish oil (thorne super EPA) to tackle

bumpy skin on his arms and face, massive stimming, crying for months to follow -

despite going very slowly - until it finally settled. i only managed to get up

to half the dose i wanted. daren't push it further, still have mild bumpy rash

on arms and face.

>

> increased K2 to tackle greying teeth, somewhat successful, but not 100%

>

> overall, good and steady changes with a happier, talker! which he wasn't a

year ago, so fantastic results with biomed to report.

>

> next step to do genova chelation panel and breakspear faecal metal testing to

see what's happening with OSR.

>

> also going to start KiB500 this weekend. will report any goods and bads.

>

> karenza

>

[Guest guest]

> Hi,

>

> Great to read about your son's progress!! Especially when you can actually

measure it in terms of his growth and general health. We are using Brainbow

too. How many capsules do you give per day?

ONLY ONE PER DAY

What is OSR?

BEEN LOTS OF DISCUSSION ABOUT IT ON HERE RECENTLY, MAYBE CHECK THROUGH MESSAGES,

IM USING IT FOR CHELATING PURPOSES

Is it meant to be used in conjunction with Brainbow?

APPARENTLY OSR WORKS BETTER WITH PHOSPHOLIPID EXCHANGE, SOMEONE ON THIS LIST

MENTIONED IT

> Lastly, where do you get the transdermal MB12 from?

GOOD OLD MANDI MART

>

> Thanks,

>

> Jane

>

> progress

>

>

>

> hi

>

> didn't make it onto the " jacuzzi hot list " but it reminded me that i hadn't

taken an objective look at how things are going with eddie (age 11 now!) for

sometime. thought i would summarize in case anything useful for others:

>

> been GAPS for one year almost and have seen fantastic results, extremely

obvious effect on growth (gone from skinny to beautifully cuddly) and

substantially taller, appetite excellent and bowel much improved, using only a

maintenance dose of oxypowder.

>

> done 3 years of the listening programme, calmer, more focused when listening

and immediately afterwards and more focused in general. this i believe has also

helped with speech.

>

> did julie's (griffiths on this list) " adrenal " and " thyroid " support

protocol last summer, with amazing results, his temperature went up by quite a

bit: Before intervention: Mean temp. 35.8

> After intervention: Mean temp: 36.3. improvements we saw were obvious with a

calmer eddie and more gains in speech and spontaneous interactions.

>

> tried MMS (very hard to take) with all the family and got up to a

substantial amount of drops, for 3 months, then dropped to maintenance dose. had

dramatic results to begin, with interesting poo colours, rashes, usual die off

symptoms etc, then no changes. we mainly did this for parasites (blasto), but

i'm pretty sure it hasn't been effective for getting rid of it. i'm doing a

stool sample this weekend and will post if it has so others can try it.

>

> changed to transdermal MB12 from injections, after first night of applying

it, he said 2 words together for the first time " yellow banana " , so i believe

its more effective for eddie that the injections.

>

> been using OSR (coupled with brainbow) for 4 months, huge language and

interactive gains.

>

> increased cod liver oil and added in fish oil (thorne super EPA) to tackle

bumpy skin on his arms and face, massive stimming, crying for months to follow -

despite going very slowly - until it finally settled. i only managed to get up

to half the dose i wanted. daren't push it further, still have mild bumpy rash

on arms and face.

>

> increased K2 to tackle greying teeth, somewhat successful, but not 100%

>

> overall, good and steady changes with a happier, talker! which he wasn't a

year ago, so fantastic results with biomed to report.

>

> next step to do genova chelation panel and breakspear faecal metal testing

to see what's happening with OSR.

>

> also going to start KiB500 this weekend. will report any goods and bads.

>

> karenza

>

[Guest guest]

> Hi za

>

> Read your post with interest.... starts TLP next month, so pleasing to

here about Eddie's gains with this...I'd be interested to hear about the thyroid

and adrenal support protocol:

\\julie could probably fill you in with more info, but firstly we supported

adrenals, with pantethine, magnesium, b vits, vit c, adrenal cortex etc, then we

popped in iodine in various forms to support thyroid, most people involved in

eddie's life made comments about how great he was doing.

Do you know why some children struggle with the fish oils??

\\ we also had the same symptoms when i added in D3, so i'm guessing its related

to that. i knew that it would settle as it was exactly the same as D3, but it

did go on a bit, poor thing!

i'm trying desperately to get started but honestly he goes stim crazy

whenever i try...

>

> x

>

>

> >

> > hi

> >

> > didn't make it onto the " jacuzzi hot list " but it reminded me that i hadn't

taken an objective look at how things are going with eddie (age 11 now!) for

sometime. thought i would summarize in case anything useful for others:

> >

> > been GAPS for one year almost and have seen fantastic results, extremely

obvious effect on growth (gone from skinny to beautifully cuddly) and

substantially taller, appetite excellent and bowel much improved, using only a

maintenance dose of oxypowder.

> >

> > done 3 years of the listening programme, calmer, more focused when listening

and immediately afterwards and more focused in general. this i believe has also

helped with speech.

> >

> > did julie's (griffiths on this list) " adrenal " and " thyroid " support

protocol last summer, with amazing results, his temperature went up by quite a

bit: Before intervention: Mean temp. 35.8

> > After intervention: Mean temp: 36.3. improvements we saw were obvious with

a calmer eddie and more gains in speech and spontaneous interactions.

> >

> > tried MMS (very hard to take) with all the family and got up to a

substantial amount of drops, for 3 months, then dropped to maintenance dose.

had dramatic results to begin, with interesting poo colours, rashes, usual die

off symptoms etc, then no changes. we mainly did this for parasites (blasto),

but i'm pretty sure it hasn't been effective for getting rid of it. i'm doing a

stool sample this weekend and will post if it has so others can try it.

> >

> > changed to transdermal MB12 from injections, after first night of applying

it, he said 2 words together for the first time " yellow banana " , so i believe

its more effective for eddie that the injections.

> >

> > been using OSR (coupled with brainbow) for 4 months, huge language and

interactive gains.

> >

> > increased cod liver oil and added in fish oil (thorne super EPA) to tackle

bumpy skin on his arms and face, massive stimming, crying for months to follow -

despite going very slowly - until it finally settled. i only managed to get up

to half the dose i wanted. daren't push it further, still have mild bumpy rash

on arms and face.

> >

> > increased K2 to tackle greying teeth, somewhat successful, but not 100%

> >

> > overall, good and steady changes with a happier, talker! which he wasn't a

year ago, so fantastic results with biomed to report.

> >

> > next step to do genova chelation panel and breakspear faecal metal testing

to see what's happening with OSR.

> >

> > also going to start KiB500 this weekend. will report any goods and bads.

> >

> > karenza

> >

>

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>

>

> In a message dated 25/02/2010 23:22:19 GMT Standard Time,

> andrea.edmondson@... writes:

>

> Do you know why some children struggle with the fish oils?? i'm trying

> desperately to get started but honestly he goes stim crazy whenever i

> try...

>

>

>

> >>Willis used to say do 6 weeks of priming with EPO before starting CLO

> and it eases the way. It did for us way back when

// eddie was taking EPO for one year prior to CLO, i wonder whether it would

have been beneficial to increase it maybe??

>

> Mandi x

>

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> tried MMS (very hard to take) with all the family and got up to a

> substantial amount of drops, for 3 months, then dropped to maintenance dose.

had

> dramatic results to begin, with interesting poo colours, rashes, usual die

> off symptoms etc, then no changes. we mainly did this for parasites (blasto),

> but i'm pretty sure it hasn't been effective for getting rid of it. i'm

> doing a stool sample this weekend and will post if it has so others can try

> it.

> >>yes will be interested in that one. We haven;t used it since we started

> our KIB journey. Not sure where we are with it, seemed to do best on weekly

> dosing I think, will stick to weekly until Easter hols and then do a few

> days in a row and see how it goes. Trouble is in the hols he does a lot of

> swimming and a lot of swallowing of pool water which kinda messes everything

> up

>

i find it amazing that these pathogens can avoid hardcore substances like MMS, i

hope that with the combination of your weekly dosing and the KIB that you will

see some good improvements

>

>

> changed to transdermal MB12 from injections, after first night of applying

> it, he said 2 words together for the first time " yellow banana " , so i

> believe its more effective for eddie that the injections.

> >>WOW - do you use it daily? TSmaller daily doses seemed to suit Sam

> better than the bigger ones less often

>

///yes daily dosing as its transdermal and not subcut made sense to me

>

>

> been using OSR (coupled with brainbow) for 4 months, huge language and

> interactive gains.

> >>Double WOW - what is Brainbow?

>

/////brainbow was recommended by jean muscroft originally, when i started

researching it, i heard from another parent that it was great coupled with OSR,

its an oil complex of phosphatidylserine (it does contain soya though is some

derivative, which eddie is normally intolerant too, but he seemed fine with it

immediately)

>

> overall, good and steady changes with a happier, talker! which he wasn't a

> year ago, so fantastic results with biomed to report.

> >>I want talking too............

//// well if he can sing he can talk!!!! common you sam! you can do it!

>

>

>

> next step to do genova chelation panel and breakspear faecal metal testing

> to see what's happening with OSR.

> >>What is chelation panel?

//// it's a blood test, don't have too many details about it yet, just looking

into it, jean's suggestion again, will post when i read more, we were both

curious to know how the OSR was working as i'm looking to move into other

protocols of chelation soon

>

>

>

> also going to start KiB500 this weekend. will report any goods and bads.

>

> >>Good luck and thanks for posting, great news

>

> Mandi x

>

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Hi

I will try that mix for the twigglers, I think there is still a few in my back,

mine started after I used a hair dryer on itchy spots till it felt real hot , it

didn & #39;t killthe bug. It is the only spot that bothers me , I have been

soaking it with a poultice,(a shirt soaked in borax1/2cup per gal for30 mins 2 X

per day)

Whatever it is in my back it dosent wiggle anymore since Fritos peroxide &

borax & water mix, but I think it is still in there, maybe FIR infrared will get

it too.

Thanks for the post .

I still haven & #39;t felt a crawl for119 days since putting 2 tbls cococnut oil

in the tub & soaking,I did it about 15 -20 times I am amazed ,I had used

cococnut oil in sulfur creme for 1 year, but still had crawling , I did use the

A & H soap 1 cup per bath about 8 times, 3-10 days apart . Maybe that is what

really killed them It is awesome no crawling at all , I feel small bites once

in a while & I apply proxide & borax & water to anything that itches & they

vaninish .

You mentiond floors, arm & hammer powdered laundry soap 1 cup per gallon mopped

on & left for a while is very very powerful . I hav e hard wood floors with all

the cracks sealed with borax. .I dream of 1 piece linoleum

..........§ø,¸¸,ø§º°`°º§ø,¸¸,ø§º°`°º§ø§ ....with a drain

......§ø,¸¸,ø§º°`°º§ø,¸¸,ø§º°`°º§ø§

ok back to reality , I can & #39;t live in a locker room ! ? ..

Trlyblest tore up her floors put down DE under her sub flooring & reinstalled

new . That sounds smart .

Please l et me know anything you find that kills this bug , so far its arm &

hammer powdered laundry soap 1 cup per gallon , then rinse , it works wonders,

it kind of makes me ill after a while breathing the fumes of it, so I never

breathe it , I use exhaust fans in windows & start near the fan a work away

from the fan when washing with it , than leave for a while. I did my carpet in

my car a it killled them . I spray the car interior with 2 oz cococnut oil & hot

water daily & they rarely touch me . The oil ruins their travel plans

Happy Easter,

Bill

livingwithcritters wrote:

>  

> The first thing I want to say is that I seldom have time to read

everything here, so I am behind on the science. I am so glad that my feeble

efforts at scientific investigation are moot, which is why I have stopped

maintaining (paying for) the online resources I had posted when we were still in

our " dark ages. "

> What I do maintain is the resources that don't cost me money, namely, the

critterfiles library, which is outdated but still has some good stuff, and the

memorials I mentioned in an earlier post tonight.

> My focus now is to continue with what is working for me:

> After the bioactive chitinase I drizzled over my body after a shower caused

the exit of thousands of squares of gelatinous material (was that the bio-film,

do you think?) within about 15 minutes of applying the chitinase, my critters

have been biting more--and more meanly--than ever. That includes more shedding

everywhere. I still have to wear long sleeves and rubber boots at home to

prevent reinfection from sheds, HOWEVER, thanks to the benzoyl peroxide and

salicylic acid combo I'm using on my skin (DermaPet shampoo, formerly

Dermabenss, about 59.99 / gallon) my bites are smaller and smaller, and when I

use my lice comb, I get less and less off my scalp. So it is working!

> I have not yet succeeded in becoming unattractive to the critters, and there

are several things I have read here that I either have already ordered or plan

to order as I have the bucks.

> Also, after I dropped my Pink Oil/benzalchonium chloride/herbal insect

repellent from my regimen, I got, for the first time, what Bill calls Twizzlers

(good name). Also, I was getting bitten horribly throughout the day (smaller,

due to the BP shampoo, as mentioned above, but more and meaner bites). I

restarted the Pink Oil mixture and the reinfection dropped to nearly nothing.

The mixture is good for about 10 hours, then I have to shower and start over.

Also, the twizzlers went away. What helped with them was applying the Clobetasol

Propionate (prescription steroid gel) to the spots. On a good day, when I apply

that gel, whatever was biting me comes out. It doesn't always work, but

fortunately whatever was causing these feelings was close enough to the surface,

not as deep as I thought, because after that--no more twizzling.

> I still take the seabuckthorn berry oil internally at least a dropperful

daily. I also take (and have for several months) 340 mg of oregano oil daily,

and have just started taking about the same amount of Interfase Plus, a

chitinase that is often prescribed (though I don't know the science behind it)

for autism, according to the website where it is sold.

> The seabuckthorn berry oil helps prevent lesions and once I have them, to

reduce the inflammation in them, and help them heal. The BP is slower, but only

requires one application and the lesions are on their way to gone, whereas I

have to reapply the SBT berry oil.

> It is turkey season, and I am a hunter, and I have lucked up on a lease that

has blinds on every food plot, portable cloth blinds that zip up and keep things

out. So I can turkey hunt again, in a comfortable chair, rather than sitting

against trees on the ground where everything in the world got on me. This past

weekend I called in a bird for the woman who invited me onto this lease, her

first bird, and it was such a pleasure to be outdoors, but protected, and able

to enjoy my sport without fear of being swarmed. Of course I wore bug juice

anyway! Then, when she got her bird, we both put on disposable gloves and put

the whole bird in a giant ziploc bag with ice so it didn't infect my car. We

took it to the club lodge, where her husband and a friend of mine, who is a

hunting guide, got to see it and hear her story, and the friend gutted it and

then put it back into the ziploc without questioning my use of it (he knows I

have morg).

> After turkey season, I've scheduled a purge, starting with my garage, where

we track things in. It goes back to the old story about sweeping the front stoop

first, otherwise cleaning inside is kind of pointless. Then I will clean the

other areas where we come into the house and start inside. I've read some

terrific advice here about cleaning ductwork and I've always known that I had to

do something about the expansion joints and gaps under molding. I'll finish off

by yanking the carpets and putting down smooth flooring. I despise cold tiles,

so I will probably do the radiant (under tile) heat thing. Actually I'm not

crazy about tiles anyway, so I may go with what I love, which is sheet vinyl. It

is the least maintenance (to me) in the short run, though it must be replaced

more often than tile.

> Have any of you posted a comprehensive list all in one place of what all to

do to a house?

> Thank you, all of you, for what you have taught me and shared of yourselves

here.

> love, katie

>

[Guest guest]

hi and Bill,Happy Easter to You!!! I didn't know You were a hunter.I

was amazed at what a good tasting bird the wild turkey can be.I think they are

so much healthier that the processed turkeys people often eat.I've only had it a

few times but think it's great.I always use the Arm and hammer for clothes with

good results.Glad the coconut is working good for you,Bill.Love,Rose

--- doe1769@... wrote:

From: Doe <doe1769@...>

" kajay109@... " <kajay109@...>

Cc: " bird mites " <bird mites >

Subject: RE: progress

Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:07:14 -0700 (PDT)

Hi

I will try that mix for the twigglers, I think there is still a few in my back,

mine started after I used a hair dryer on itchy spots till it felt real hot , it

didn & #39;t killthe bug. It is the only spot that bothers me , I have been

soaking it with a poultice,(a shirt soaked in borax1/2cup per gal for30 mins 2 X

per day)

Whatever it is in my back it dosent wiggle anymore since Fritos peroxide &

borax & water mix, but I think it is still in there, maybe FIR infrared will get

it too.

Thanks for the post .

I still haven & #39;t felt a crawl for119 days since putting 2 tbls cococnut oil

in the tub & soaking,I did it about 15 -20 times I am amazed ,I had used

cococnut oil in sulfur creme for 1 year, but still had crawling , I did use the

A & H soap 1 cup per bath about 8 times, 3-10 days apart . Maybe that is what

really killed them It is awesome no crawling at all , I feel small bites once

in a while & I apply proxide & borax & water to anything that itches & they

vaninish .

You mentiond floors, arm & hammer powdered laundry soap 1 cup per gallon mopped

on & left for a while is very very powerful . I hav e hard wood floors with all

the cracks sealed with borax. .I dream of 1 piece linoleum

..........§ø,¸¸,ø§º°`°º§ø,¸¸,ø§º°`°º§ø§ ....with a drain

......§ø,¸¸,ø§º°`°º§ø,¸¸,ø§º°`°º§ø§

ok back to reality , I can & #39;t live in a locker room ! ? ..

Trlyblest tore up her floors put down DE under her sub flooring & reinstalled

new . That sounds smart .

Please l et me know anything you find that kills this bug , so far its arm &

hammer powdered laundry soap 1 cup per gallon , then rinse , it works wonders,

it kind of makes me ill after a while breathing the fumes of it, so I never

breathe it , I use exhaust fans in windows & start near the fan a work away

from the fan when washing with it , than leave for a while. I did my carpet in

my car a it killled them . I spray the car interior with 2 oz cococnut oil & hot

water daily & they rarely touch me . The oil ruins their travel plans

Happy Easter,

Bill

livingwithcritters wrote:

>  

> The first thing I want to say is that I seldom have time to read

everything here, so I am behind on the science. I am so glad that my feeble

efforts at scientific investigation are moot, which is why I have stopped

maintaining (paying for) the online resources I had posted when we were still in

our " dark ages. "

> What I do maintain is the resources that don't cost me money, namely, the

critterfiles library, which is outdated but still has some good stuff, and the

memorials I mentioned in an earlier post tonight.

> My focus now is to continue with what is working for me:

> After the bioactive chitinase I drizzled over my body after a shower caused

the exit of thousands of squares of gelatinous material (was that the bio-film,

do you think?) within about 15 minutes of applying the chitinase, my critters

have been biting more--and more meanly--than ever. That includes more shedding

everywhere. I still have to wear long sleeves and rubber boots at home to

prevent reinfection from sheds, HOWEVER, thanks to the benzoyl peroxide and

salicylic acid combo I'm using on my skin (DermaPet shampoo, formerly

Dermabenss, about 59.99 / gallon) my bites are smaller and smaller, and when I

use my lice comb, I get less and less off my scalp. So it is working!

> I have not yet succeeded in becoming unattractive to the critters, and there

are several things I have read here that I either have already ordered or plan

to order as I have the bucks.

> Also, after I dropped my Pink Oil/benzalchonium chloride/herbal insect

repellent from my regimen, I got, for the first time, what Bill calls Twizzlers

(good name). Also, I was getting bitten horribly throughout the day (smaller,

due to the BP shampoo, as mentioned above, but more and meaner bites). I

restarted the Pink Oil mixture and the reinfection dropped to nearly nothing.

The mixture is good for about 10 hours, then I have to shower and start over.

Also, the twizzlers went away. What helped with them was applying the Clobetasol

Propionate (prescription steroid gel) to the spots. On a good day, when I apply

that gel, whatever was biting me comes out. It doesn't always work, but

fortunately whatever was causing these feelings was close enough to the surface,

not as deep as I thought, because after that--no more twizzling.

> I still take the seabuckthorn berry oil internally at least a dropperful

daily. I also take (and have for several months) 340 mg of oregano oil daily,

and have just started taking about the same amount of Interfase Plus, a

chitinase that is often prescribed (though I don't know the science behind it)

for autism, according to the website where it is sold.

> The seabuckthorn berry oil helps prevent lesions and once I have them, to

reduce the inflammation in them, and help them heal. The BP is slower, but only

requires one application and the lesions are on their way to gone, whereas I

have to reapply the SBT berry oil.

> It is turkey season, and I am a hunter, and I have lucked up on a lease that

has blinds on every food plot, portable cloth blinds that zip up and keep things

out. So I can turkey hunt again, in a comfortable chair, rather than sitting

against trees on the ground where everything in the world got on me. This past

weekend I called in a bird for the woman who invited me onto this lease, her

first bird, and it was such a pleasure to be outdoors, but protected, and able

to enjoy my sport without fear of being swarmed. Of course I wore bug juice

anyway! Then, when she got her bird, we both put on disposable gloves and put

the whole bird in a giant ziploc bag with ice so it didn't infect my car. We

took it to the club lodge, where her husband and a friend of mine, who is a

hunting guide, got to see it and hear her story, and the friend gutted it and

then put it back into the ziploc without questioning my use of it (he knows I

have morg).

> After turkey season, I've scheduled a purge, starting with my garage, where

we track things in. It goes back to the old story about sweeping the front stoop

first, otherwise cleaning inside is kind of pointless. Then I will clean the

other areas where we come into the house and start inside. I've read some

terrific advice here about cleaning ductwork and I've always known that I had to

do something about the expansion joints and gaps under molding. I'll finish off

by yanking the carpets and putting down smooth flooring. I despise cold tiles,

so I will probably do the radiant (under tile) heat thing. Actually I'm not

crazy about tiles anyway, so I may go with what I love, which is sheet vinyl. It

is the least maintenance (to me) in the short run, though it must be replaced

more often than tile.

> Have any of you posted a comprehensive list all in one place of what all to

do to a house?

> Thank you, all of you, for what you have taught me and shared of yourselves

here.

> love, katie

>

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Bill, I love that, " the oil ruins their travel plans. " Funny.

love,

katie

> >  

> > The first thing I want to say is that I seldom have time to read

everything here, so I am behind on the science. I am so glad that my feeble

efforts at scientific investigation are moot, which is why I have stopped

maintaining (paying for) the online resources I had posted when we were still in

our " dark ages. "

> > What I do maintain is the resources that don't cost me money, namely, the

critterfiles library, which is outdated but still has some good stuff, and the

memorials I mentioned in an earlier post tonight.

> > My focus now is to continue with what is working for me:

> > After the bioactive chitinase I drizzled over my body after a shower caused

the exit of thousands of squares of gelatinous material (was that the bio-film,

do you think?) within about 15 minutes of applying the chitinase, my critters

have been biting more--and more meanly--than ever. That includes more shedding

everywhere. I still have to wear long sleeves and rubber boots at home to

prevent reinfection from sheds, HOWEVER, thanks to the benzoyl peroxide and

salicylic acid combo I'm using on my skin (DermaPet shampoo, formerly

Dermabenss, about 59.99 / gallon) my bites are smaller and smaller, and when I

use my lice comb, I get less and less off my scalp. So it is working!

> > I have not yet succeeded in becoming unattractive to the critters, and

there are several things I have read here that I either have already ordered or

plan to order as I have the bucks.

> > Also, after I dropped my Pink Oil/benzalchonium chloride/herbal insect

repellent from my regimen, I got, for the first time, what Bill calls Twizzlers

(good name). Also, I was getting bitten horribly throughout the day (smaller,

due to the BP shampoo, as mentioned above, but more and meaner bites). I

restarted the Pink Oil mixture and the reinfection dropped to nearly nothing.

The mixture is good for about 10 hours, then I have to shower and start over.

Also, the twizzlers went away. What helped with them was applying the Clobetasol

Propionate (prescription steroid gel) to the spots. On a good day, when I apply

that gel, whatever was biting me comes out. It doesn't always work, but

fortunately whatever was causing these feelings was close enough to the surface,

not as deep as I thought, because after that--no more twizzling.

> > I still take the seabuckthorn berry oil internally at least a dropperful

daily. I also take (and have for several months) 340 mg of oregano oil daily,

and have just started taking about the same amount of Interfase Plus, a

chitinase that is often prescribed (though I don't know the science behind it)

for autism, according to the website where it is sold.

> > The seabuckthorn berry oil helps prevent lesions and once I have them, to

reduce the inflammation in them, and help them heal. The BP is slower, but only

requires one application and the lesions are on their way to gone, whereas I

have to reapply the SBT berry oil.

> > It is turkey season, and I am a hunter, and I have lucked up on a lease

that has blinds on every food plot, portable cloth blinds that zip up and keep

things out. So I can turkey hunt again, in a comfortable chair, rather than

sitting against trees on the ground where everything in the world got on me.

This past weekend I called in a bird for the woman who invited me onto this

lease, her first bird, and it was such a pleasure to be outdoors, but protected,

and able to enjoy my sport without fear of being swarmed. Of course I wore bug

juice anyway! Then, when she got her bird, we both put on disposable gloves and

put the whole bird in a giant ziploc bag with ice so it didn't infect my car. We

took it to the club lodge, where her husband and a friend of mine, who is a

hunting guide, got to see it and hear her story, and the friend gutted it and

then put it back into the ziploc without questioning my use of it (he knows I

have morg).

> > After turkey season, I've scheduled a purge, starting with my garage, where

we track things in. It goes back to the old story about sweeping the front stoop

first, otherwise cleaning inside is kind of pointless. Then I will clean the

other areas where we come into the house and start inside. I've read some

terrific advice here about cleaning ductwork and I've always known that I had to

do something about the expansion joints and gaps under molding. I'll finish off

by yanking the carpets and putting down smooth flooring. I despise cold tiles,

so I will probably do the radiant (under tile) heat thing. Actually I'm not

crazy about tiles anyway, so I may go with what I love, which is sheet vinyl. It

is the least maintenance (to me) in the short run, though it must be replaced

more often than tile.

> > Have any of you posted a comprehensive list all in one place of what all to

do to a house?

> > Thank you, all of you, for what you have taught me and shared of yourselves

here.

> > love, katie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If we are what we eat, then the omnivorous turkey are grasshoppers and dogwood

berries, which results in a very clean taste to the meat.

love,

katie

> >  

> > The first thing I want to say is that I seldom have time to read

everything here, so I am behind on the science. I am so glad that my feeble

efforts at scientific investigation are moot, which is why I have stopped

maintaining (paying for) the online resources I had posted when we were still in

our " dark ages. "

> > What I do maintain is the resources that don't cost me money, namely, the

critterfiles library, which is outdated but still has some good stuff, and the

memorials I mentioned in an earlier post tonight.

> > My focus now is to continue with what is working for me:

> > After the bioactive chitinase I drizzled over my body after a shower caused

the exit of thousands of squares of gelatinous material (was that the bio-film,

do you think?) within about 15 minutes of applying the chitinase, my critters

have been biting more--and more meanly--than ever. That includes more shedding

everywhere. I still have to wear long sleeves and rubber boots at home to

prevent reinfection from sheds, HOWEVER, thanks to the benzoyl peroxide and

salicylic acid combo I'm using on my skin (DermaPet shampoo, formerly

Dermabenss, about 59.99 / gallon) my bites are smaller and smaller, and when I

use my lice comb, I get less and less off my scalp. So it is working!

> > I have not yet succeeded in becoming unattractive to the critters, and

there are several things I have read here that I either have already ordered or

plan to order as I have the bucks.

> > Also, after I dropped my Pink Oil/benzalchonium chloride/herbal insect

repellent from my regimen, I got, for the first time, what Bill calls Twizzlers

(good name). Also, I was getting bitten horribly throughout the day (smaller,

due to the BP shampoo, as mentioned above, but more and meaner bites). I

restarted the Pink Oil mixture and the reinfection dropped to nearly nothing.

The mixture is good for about 10 hours, then I have to shower and start over.

Also, the twizzlers went away. What helped with them was applying the Clobetasol

Propionate (prescription steroid gel) to the spots. On a good day, when I apply

that gel, whatever was biting me comes out. It doesn't always work, but

fortunately whatever was causing these feelings was close enough to the surface,

not as deep as I thought, because after that--no more twizzling.

> > I still take the seabuckthorn berry oil internally at least a dropperful

daily. I also take (and have for several months) 340 mg of oregano oil daily,

and have just started taking about the same amount of Interfase Plus, a

chitinase that is often prescribed (though I don't know the science behind it)

for autism, according to the website where it is sold.

> > The seabuckthorn berry oil helps prevent lesions and once I have them, to

reduce the inflammation in them, and help them heal. The BP is slower, but only

requires one application and the lesions are on their way to gone, whereas I

have to reapply the SBT berry oil.

> > It is turkey season, and I am a hunter, and I have lucked up on a lease

that has blinds on every food plot, portable cloth blinds that zip up and keep

things out. So I can turkey hunt again, in a comfortable chair, rather than

sitting against trees on the ground where everything in the world got on me.

This past weekend I called in a bird for the woman who invited me onto this

lease, her first bird, and it was such a pleasure to be outdoors, but protected,

and able to enjoy my sport without fear of being swarmed. Of course I wore bug

juice anyway! Then, when she got her bird, we both put on disposable gloves and

put the whole bird in a giant ziploc bag with ice so it didn't infect my car. We

took it to the club lodge, where her husband and a friend of mine, who is a

hunting guide, got to see it and hear her story, and the friend gutted it and

then put it back into the ziploc without questioning my use of it (he knows I

have morg).

> > After turkey season, I've scheduled a purge, starting with my garage, where

we track things in. It goes back to the old story about sweeping the front stoop

first, otherwise cleaning inside is kind of pointless. Then I will clean the

other areas where we come into the house and start inside. I've read some

terrific advice here about cleaning ductwork and I've always known that I had to

do something about the expansion joints and gaps under molding. I'll finish off

by yanking the carpets and putting down smooth flooring. I despise cold tiles,

so I will probably do the radiant (under tile) heat thing. Actually I'm not

crazy about tiles anyway, so I may go with what I love, which is sheet vinyl. It

is the least maintenance (to me) in the short run, though it must be replaced

more often than tile.

> > Have any of you posted a comprehensive list all in one place of what all to

do to a house?

> > Thank you, all of you, for what you have taught me and shared of

yourselves here.

> > love, katie

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

yes, I'm a hunter. After picking up morg off the swarming red spider/tick

vectors at the archery range in Sep 09, I didn't think I would ever be able to

do it again, till this lease. Where I was hunting, I couldn't leave a blind, it

would be stolen within a day. Here they don't seem to have problems like that,

plus someone lives on the property.

In fact, my first parasite emerged after I got my first bird in 1985. A lot of

turkey hunters report bird mite infestations. Of course all wild game carries

parasites of all kinds. Bucillosis is one that can be caught from butchering

deer, and I know a woman who trained hunting bird dogs who died of it. Pigs

carry some very nasty things, yet the foolish men I hunt with sometimes don't

wear gloves when they handle the carcasses. They don't listen to me!

love,

katie

> > >  

> > > The first thing I want to say is that I seldom have time to read

everything here, so I am behind on the science. I am so glad that my feeble

efforts at scientific investigation are moot, which is why I have stopped

maintaining (paying for) the online resources I had posted when we were still in

our " dark ages. "

> > > What I do maintain is the resources that don't cost me money, namely, the

critterfiles library, which is outdated but still has some good stuff, and the

memorials I mentioned in an earlier post tonight.

> > > My focus now is to continue with what is working for me:

> > > After the bioactive chitinase I drizzled over my body after a shower

caused the exit of thousands of squares of gelatinous material (was that the

bio-film, do you think?) within about 15 minutes of applying the chitinase, my

critters have been biting more--and more meanly--than ever. That includes more

shedding everywhere. I still have to wear long sleeves and rubber boots at home

to prevent reinfection from sheds, HOWEVER, thanks to the benzoyl peroxide and

salicylic acid combo I'm using on my skin (DermaPet shampoo, formerly

Dermabenss, about 59.99 / gallon) my bites are smaller and smaller, and when I

use my lice comb, I get less and less off my scalp. So it is working!

> > > I have not yet succeeded in becoming unattractive to the critters, and

there are several things I have read here that I either have already ordered or

plan to order as I have the bucks.

> > > Also, after I dropped my Pink Oil/benzalchonium chloride/herbal insect

repellent from my regimen, I got, for the first time, what Bill calls Twizzlers

(good name). Also, I was getting bitten horribly throughout the day (smaller,

due to the BP shampoo, as mentioned above, but more and meaner bites). I

restarted the Pink Oil mixture and the reinfection dropped to nearly nothing.

The mixture is good for about 10 hours, then I have to shower and start over.

Also, the twizzlers went away. What helped with them was applying the Clobetasol

Propionate (prescription steroid gel) to the spots. On a good day, when I apply

that gel, whatever was biting me comes out. It doesn't always work, but

fortunately whatever was causing these feelings was close enough to the surface,

not as deep as I thought, because after that--no more twizzling.

> > > I still take the seabuckthorn berry oil internally at least a dropperful

daily. I also take (and have for several months) 340 mg of oregano oil daily,

and have just started taking about the same amount of Interfase Plus, a

chitinase that is often prescribed (though I don't know the science behind it)

for autism, according to the website where it is sold.

> > > The seabuckthorn berry oil helps prevent lesions and once I have them, to

reduce the inflammation in them, and help them heal. The BP is slower, but only

requires one application and the lesions are on their way to gone, whereas I

have to reapply the SBT berry oil.

> > > It is turkey season, and I am a hunter, and I have lucked up on a lease

that has blinds on every food plot, portable cloth blinds that zip up and keep

things out. So I can turkey hunt again, in a comfortable chair, rather than

sitting against trees on the ground where everything in the world got on me.

This past weekend I called in a bird for the woman who invited me onto this

lease, her first bird, and it was such a pleasure to be outdoors, but protected,

and able to enjoy my sport without fear of being swarmed. Of course I wore bug

juice anyway! Then, when she got her bird, we both put on disposable gloves and

put the whole bird in a giant ziploc bag with ice so it didn't infect my car. We

took it to the club lodge, where her husband and a friend of mine, who is a

hunting guide, got to see it and hear her story, and the friend gutted it and

then put it back into the ziploc without questioning my use of it (he knows I

have morg).

> > > After turkey season, I've scheduled a purge, starting with my garage,

where we track things in. It goes back to the old story about sweeping the front

stoop first, otherwise cleaning inside is kind of pointless. Then I will clean

the other areas where we come into the house and start inside. I've read some

terrific advice here about cleaning ductwork and I've always known that I had to

do something about the expansion joints and gaps under molding. I'll finish off

by yanking the carpets and putting down smooth flooring. I despise cold tiles,

so I will probably do the radiant (under tile) heat thing. Actually I'm not

crazy about tiles anyway, so I may go with what I love, which is sheet vinyl. It

is the least maintenance (to me) in the short run, though it must be replaced

more often than tile.

> > > Have any of you posted a comprehensive list all in one place of what all

to do to a house?

> > > Thank you, all of you, for what you have taught me and shared of

yourselves here.

> > > love, katie

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Kate, I live in the country. Peeps like to experiment here. One neighbor uses

electrical radiant floor heat for his front door entry and its worked for years.

He said if he had druthers he'd prefer water. electric is more like a spot

heater you really don't want to use it in your whole house, just small areas,

mostly because it's more expensive than other radiant types. Most peeps in this

area using it go for water radiant heat because it's cheaper and gives better

heat. The water retains the heat in the tubes unlike electircity. Plus think

about the electro magnetic problem with these bugs maybe the last thing we need

is electricity in the subfloor driving into a frenzy. Right now if I had the

funds I'd go with water radiant. The water runs through plastic tubes in the

subfloor. I think your smart to rip up your floor and try to treat the subloor

It seems to me the floor is a TOTAL source of problems. I just know these SOB's

are lurking under there like total cowards. I am totally screwed with a lot of

wood flooring in this old house. It has small spaces between planks know they

under there just waiting for their chance to chew up my feet. really if I had

enough money I would just get the hell out of this hell hole permanently and

move to another house or something but I can't afford to move. There's too many

in my house God knows how they got here. Tony

> >

> >

> > The first thing I want to say is that I seldom have time to read

> > everything here, so I am behind on the science. I am so glad that my

> > feeble efforts at scientific investigation are moot, which is why I have

> > stopped maintaining (paying for) the online resources I had posted when

> > we were still in our " dark ages. "

> >

> > What I do maintain is the resources that don't cost me money, namely,

> > the critterfiles library, which is outdated but still has some good

> > stuff, and the memorials I mentioned in an earlier post tonight.

> >

> > My focus now is to continue with what is working for me:

> >

> > After the bioactive chitinase I drizzled over my body after a shower

> > caused the exit of thousands of squares of gelatinous material (was that

> > the bio-film, do you think?) within about 15 minutes of applying the

> > chitinase, my critters have been biting more--and more meanly--than

> > ever. That includes more shedding everywhere. I still have to wear long

> > sleeves and rubber boots at home to prevent reinfection from sheds,

> > HOWEVER, thanks to the benzoyl peroxide and salicylic acid combo I'm

> > using on my skin (DermaPet shampoo, formerly Dermabenss, about 59.99 /

> > gallon) my bites are smaller and smaller, and when I use my lice comb, I

> > get less and less off my scalp. So it is working!

> >

> > I have not yet succeeded in becoming unattractive to the critters, and

> > there are several things I have read here that I either have already

> > ordered or plan to order as I have the bucks.

> >

> > Also, after I dropped my Pink Oil/benzalchonium chloride/herbal insect

> > repellent from my regimen, I got, for the first time, what Bill calls

> > Twizzlers (good name). Also, I was getting bitten horribly throughout

> > the day (smaller, due to the BP shampoo, as mentioned above, but more

> > and meaner bites). I restarted the Pink Oil mixture and the reinfection

> > dropped to nearly nothing. The mixture is good for about 10 hours, then

> > I have to shower and start over. Also, the twizzlers went away. What

> > helped with them was applying the Clobetasol Propionate (prescription

> > steroid gel) to the spots. On a good day, when I apply that gel,

> > whatever was biting me comes out. It doesn't always work, but

> > fortunately whatever was causing these feelings was close enough to the

> > surface, not as deep as I thought, because after that--no more

> > twizzling.

> >

> > I still take the seabuckthorn berry oil internally at least a dropperful

> > daily. I also take (and have for several months) 340 mg of oregano oil

> > daily, and have just started taking about the same amount of Interfase

> > Plus, a chitinase that is often prescribed (though I don't know the

> > science behind it) for autism, according to the website where it is

> > sold.

> >

> > The seabuckthorn berry oil helps prevent lesions and once I have them,

> > to reduce the inflammation in them, and help them heal. The BP is

> > slower, but only requires one application and the lesions are on their

> > way to gone, whereas I have to reapply the SBT berry oil.

> >

> > It is turkey season, and I am a hunter, and I have lucked up on a lease

> > that has blinds on every food plot, portable cloth blinds that zip up

> > and keep things out. So I can turkey hunt again, in a comfortable chair,

> > rather than sitting against trees on the ground where everything in the

> > world got on me. This past weekend I called in a bird for the woman who

> > invited me onto this lease, her first bird, and it was such a pleasure

> > to be outdoors, but protected, and able to enjoy my sport without fear

> > of being swarmed. Of course I wore bug juice anyway! Then, when she got

> > her bird, we both put on disposable gloves and put the whole bird in a

> > giant ziploc bag with ice so it didn't infect my car. We took it to the

> > club lodge, where her husband and a friend of mine, who is a hunting

> > guide, got to see it and hear her story, and the friend gutted it and

> > then put it back into the ziploc without questioning my use of it (he

> > knows I have morg).

> >

> > After turkey season, I've scheduled a purge, starting with my garage,

> > where we track things in. It goes back to the old story about sweeping

> > the front stoop first, otherwise cleaning inside is kind of pointless.

> > Then I will clean the other areas where we come into the house and start

> > inside. I've read some terrific advice here about cleaning ductwork and

> > I've always known that I had to do something about the expansion joints

> > and gaps under molding. I'll finish off by yanking the carpets and

> > putting down smooth flooring. I despise cold tiles, so I will probably

> > do the radiant (under tile) heat thing. Actually I'm not crazy about

> > tiles anyway, so I may go with what I love, which is sheet vinyl. It is

> > the least maintenance (to me) in the short run, though it must be

> > replaced more often than tile.

> >

> > Have any of you posted a comprehensive list all in one place of what all

> > to do to a house?

> >

> > Thank you, all of you, for what you have taught me and shared of

> > yourselves here.

> >

> > love,

> > katie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Tony. That's good feedback. Based on that, what I might do since I love

everything about my house but the critters, is to put down vinyl everywhere, as

it is warmer than ceramic, and skip the expense of the radiant heat. When we

sell, we can offer a discount over competitive homes, which many buyers will go

for as they can pocket the savings or use it to install what they want.

I have already ditched so many things I owned before all this, but much of it I

have had to replace. I'm simply going to have to wash everything with a hard

surface down, dry clean or soak in A & H or Orange Plus everything I can put into

water, and decide on a case by case basis what to do with the rest.

My attic is filled with junk that my husband will never move, old military

memorabilia etc. So I am going to find a place where I can buy menthol crystals

in bulk (and I do mean bulk) and just make the whole place toxic to them. (Come

out of that ammo can, critter, and die!) Then there is all the insulation. It is

compacted like it gets, so replacing it would be good anyway, but the money.

Like most of us, I will have to do what I can do when I can do it, financially

and physically. I've already been " mentholizing " my husband's 450 shelf feet of

gorgeous history books for about a year, just have to keep that up. The living

room is library and exercise room and I've kept it full of menthol. I never get

bitten when I work out or am getting a book. Also, I make sure if I DO open a

book, that my head is covered and I don't lean over the book. I'm definitely a

candidate for a Kindle (more money, though).

Keep the ideas coming, Tony, you have some good ones.

love,

katie

> > >

> > >

> > > The first thing I want to say is that I seldom have time to read

> > > everything here, so I am behind on the science. I am so glad that my

> > > feeble efforts at scientific investigation are moot, which is why I have

> > > stopped maintaining (paying for) the online resources I had posted when

> > > we were still in our " dark ages. "

> > >

> > > What I do maintain is the resources that don't cost me money, namely,

> > > the critterfiles library, which is outdated but still has some good

> > > stuff, and the memorials I mentioned in an earlier post tonight.

> > >

> > > My focus now is to continue with what is working for me:

> > >

> > > After the bioactive chitinase I drizzled over my body after a shower

> > > caused the exit of thousands of squares of gelatinous material (was that

> > > the bio-film, do you think?) within about 15 minutes of applying the

> > > chitinase, my critters have been biting more--and more meanly--than

> > > ever. That includes more shedding everywhere. I still have to wear long

> > > sleeves and rubber boots at home to prevent reinfection from sheds,

> > > HOWEVER, thanks to the benzoyl peroxide and salicylic acid combo I'm

> > > using on my skin (DermaPet shampoo, formerly Dermabenss, about 59.99 /

> > > gallon) my bites are smaller and smaller, and when I use my lice comb, I

> > > get less and less off my scalp. So it is working!

> > >

> > > I have not yet succeeded in becoming unattractive to the critters, and

> > > there are several things I have read here that I either have already

> > > ordered or plan to order as I have the bucks.

> > >

> > > Also, after I dropped my Pink Oil/benzalchonium chloride/herbal insect

> > > repellent from my regimen, I got, for the first time, what Bill calls

> > > Twizzlers (good name). Also, I was getting bitten horribly throughout

> > > the day (smaller, due to the BP shampoo, as mentioned above, but more

> > > and meaner bites). I restarted the Pink Oil mixture and the reinfection

> > > dropped to nearly nothing. The mixture is good for about 10 hours, then

> > > I have to shower and start over. Also, the twizzlers went away. What

> > > helped with them was applying the Clobetasol Propionate (prescription

> > > steroid gel) to the spots. On a good day, when I apply that gel,

> > > whatever was biting me comes out. It doesn't always work, but

> > > fortunately whatever was causing these feelings was close enough to the

> > > surface, not as deep as I thought, because after that--no more

> > > twizzling.

> > >

> > > I still take the seabuckthorn berry oil internally at least a dropperful

> > > daily. I also take (and have for several months) 340 mg of oregano oil

> > > daily, and have just started taking about the same amount of Interfase

> > > Plus, a chitinase that is often prescribed (though I don't know the

> > > science behind it) for autism, according to the website where it is

> > > sold.

> > >

> > > The seabuckthorn berry oil helps prevent lesions and once I have them,

> > > to reduce the inflammation in them, and help them heal. The BP is

> > > slower, but only requires one application and the lesions are on their

> > > way to gone, whereas I have to reapply the SBT berry oil.

> > >

> > > It is turkey season, and I am a hunter, and I have lucked up on a lease

> > > that has blinds on every food plot, portable cloth blinds that zip up

> > > and keep things out. So I can turkey hunt again, in a comfortable chair,

> > > rather than sitting against trees on the ground where everything in the

> > > world got on me. This past weekend I called in a bird for the woman who

> > > invited me onto this lease, her first bird, and it was such a pleasure

> > > to be outdoors, but protected, and able to enjoy my sport without fear

> > > of being swarmed. Of course I wore bug juice anyway! Then, when she got

> > > her bird, we both put on disposable gloves and put the whole bird in a

> > > giant ziploc bag with ice so it didn't infect my car. We took it to the

> > > club lodge, where her husband and a friend of mine, who is a hunting

> > > guide, got to see it and hear her story, and the friend gutted it and

> > > then put it back into the ziploc without questioning my use of it (he

> > > knows I have morg).

> > >

> > > After turkey season, I've scheduled a purge, starting with my garage,

> > > where we track things in. It goes back to the old story about sweeping

> > > the front stoop first, otherwise cleaning inside is kind of pointless.

> > > Then I will clean the other areas where we come into the house and start

> > > inside. I've read some terrific advice here about cleaning ductwork and

> > > I've always known that I had to do something about the expansion joints

> > > and gaps under molding. I'll finish off by yanking the carpets and

> > > putting down smooth flooring. I despise cold tiles, so I will probably

> > > do the radiant (under tile) heat thing. Actually I'm not crazy about

> > > tiles anyway, so I may go with what I love, which is sheet vinyl. It is

> > > the least maintenance (to me) in the short run, though it must be

> > > replaced more often than tile.

> > >

> > > Have any of you posted a comprehensive list all in one place of what all

> > > to do to a house?

> > >

> > > Thank you, all of you, for what you have taught me and shared of

> > > yourselves here.

> > >

> > > love,

> > > katie

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

And since we have a Kate and a in here now, it would probably be good to

include the 'i' when you are referring to me.

> Hi Kate, I live in the country. Peeps like to experiment here. One neighbor

uses electrical radiant floor heat for his front door entry and its worked for

years. He said if he had druthers he'd prefer water. electric is more like a

spot heater you really don't want to use it in your whole house, just small

areas, mostly because it's more expensive than other radiant types. Most peeps

in this area using it go for water radiant heat because it's cheaper and gives

better heat. The water retains the heat in the tubes unlike electircity. Plus

think about the electro magnetic problem with these bugs maybe the last thing we

need is electricity in the subfloor driving into a frenzy. Right now if I had

the funds I'd go with water radiant. The water runs through plastic tubes in the

subfloor. I think your smart to rip up your floor and try to treat the subloor

It seems to me the floor is a TOTAL source of problems. I just know these SOB's

are lurking under there like total cowards. I am totally screwed with a lot of

wood flooring in this old house. It has small spaces between planks know they

under there just waiting for their chance to chew up my feet. really if I had

enough money I would just get the hell out of this hell hole permanently and

move to another house or something but I can't afford to move. There's too many

in my house God knows how they got here. Tony

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > > The first thing I want to say is that I seldom have time to read

> > > everything here, so I am behind on the science. I am so glad that my

> > > feeble efforts at scientific investigation are moot, which is why I have

> > > stopped maintaining (paying for) the online resources I had posted when

> > > we were still in our " dark ages. "

> > >

> > > What I do maintain is the resources that don't cost me money, namely,

> > > the critterfiles library, which is outdated but still has some good

> > > stuff, and the memorials I mentioned in an earlier post tonight.

> > >

> > > My focus now is to continue with what is working for me:

> > >

> > > After the bioactive chitinase I drizzled over my body after a shower

> > > caused the exit of thousands of squares of gelatinous material (was that

> > > the bio-film, do you think?) within about 15 minutes of applying the

> > > chitinase, my critters have been biting more--and more meanly--than

> > > ever. That includes more shedding everywhere. I still have to wear long

> > > sleeves and rubber boots at home to prevent reinfection from sheds,

> > > HOWEVER, thanks to the benzoyl peroxide and salicylic acid combo I'm

> > > using on my skin (DermaPet shampoo, formerly Dermabenss, about 59.99 /

> > > gallon) my bites are smaller and smaller, and when I use my lice comb, I

> > > get less and less off my scalp. So it is working!

> > >

> > > I have not yet succeeded in becoming unattractive to the critters, and

> > > there are several things I have read here that I either have already

> > > ordered or plan to order as I have the bucks.

> > >

> > > Also, after I dropped my Pink Oil/benzalchonium chloride/herbal insect

> > > repellent from my regimen, I got, for the first time, what Bill calls

> > > Twizzlers (good name). Also, I was getting bitten horribly throughout

> > > the day (smaller, due to the BP shampoo, as mentioned above, but more

> > > and meaner bites). I restarted the Pink Oil mixture and the reinfection

> > > dropped to nearly nothing. The mixture is good for about 10 hours, then

> > > I have to shower and start over. Also, the twizzlers went away. What

> > > helped with them was applying the Clobetasol Propionate (prescription

> > > steroid gel) to the spots. On a good day, when I apply that gel,

> > > whatever was biting me comes out. It doesn't always work, but

> > > fortunately whatever was causing these feelings was close enough to the

> > > surface, not as deep as I thought, because after that--no more

> > > twizzling.

> > >

> > > I still take the seabuckthorn berry oil internally at least a dropperful

> > > daily. I also take (and have for several months) 340 mg of oregano oil

> > > daily, and have just started taking about the same amount of Interfase

> > > Plus, a chitinase that is often prescribed (though I don't know the

> > > science behind it) for autism, according to the website where it is

> > > sold.

> > >

> > > The seabuckthorn berry oil helps prevent lesions and once I have them,

> > > to reduce the inflammation in them, and help them heal. The BP is

> > > slower, but only requires one application and the lesions are on their

> > > way to gone, whereas I have to reapply the SBT berry oil.

> > >

> > > It is turkey season, and I am a hunter, and I have lucked up on a lease

> > > that has blinds on every food plot, portable cloth blinds that zip up

> > > and keep things out. So I can turkey hunt again, in a comfortable chair,

> > > rather than sitting against trees on the ground where everything in the

> > > world got on me. This past weekend I called in a bird for the woman who

> > > invited me onto this lease, her first bird, and it was such a pleasure

> > > to be outdoors, but protected, and able to enjoy my sport without fear

> > > of being swarmed. Of course I wore bug juice anyway! Then, when she got

> > > her bird, we both put on disposable gloves and put the whole bird in a

> > > giant ziploc bag with ice so it didn't infect my car. We took it to the

> > > club lodge, where her husband and a friend of mine, who is a hunting

> > > guide, got to see it and hear her story, and the friend gutted it and

> > > then put it back into the ziploc without questioning my use of it (he

> > > knows I have morg).

> > >

> > > After turkey season, I've scheduled a purge, starting with my garage,

> > > where we track things in. It goes back to the old story about sweeping

> > > the front stoop first, otherwise cleaning inside is kind of pointless.

> > > Then I will clean the other areas where we come into the house and start

> > > inside. I've read some terrific advice here about cleaning ductwork and

> > > I've always known that I had to do something about the expansion joints

> > > and gaps under molding. I'll finish off by yanking the carpets and

> > > putting down smooth flooring. I despise cold tiles, so I will probably

> > > do the radiant (under tile) heat thing. Actually I'm not crazy about

> > > tiles anyway, so I may go with what I love, which is sheet vinyl. It is

> > > the least maintenance (to me) in the short run, though it must be

> > > replaced more often than tile.

> > >

> > > Have any of you posted a comprehensive list all in one place of what all

> > > to do to a house?

> > >

> > > Thank you, all of you, for what you have taught me and shared of

> > > yourselves here.

> > >

> > > love,

> > > katie

> > >

> >

>