Re: T4 not working well, how to support adrenals?

[Guest guest]

Hi Helen

Here is a really simple thing to try first. Take the levoT at bedtime.

I have found it makes a huge difference and the reason is as follows.

Thyroid hormone makes the adrenals produce cortisol and this is made at night

time when we sleep. So " feeding " the adrenals at bedtime with the T4 helps then

generate more cortisol.

Try this first.

Also get him on a good basic B vitamin. I use B-100 from holland and barrett

and if i miss a few days i can feel a difference. Also try using some seasalt

with food, or put it in a juice drink. The adrenals love the salt.

This initial high from first using the T4 is very common - i have had it myself

- and if he were to raise i am sure he would get a high again. However, it

seems to stop working after only a few days. I dont know why this is, but the

body stops using it as efficiently. I would imagine he would benefit from an

intro of T3 as well, but i would work on the vits and minerlas first.

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> This one is a question on behalf on my husband. He started taking

levothyroxine, about a month ago, after being ill for years. He had thought he

had a recurrence of previous ME/CFS, even when he got thyroid nodules and had

half his thyroid removed, because he

[Guest guest]

Helen,

I would do the Saliva Test by Genova Diagnostics. Go to the FILES section of this

forum web site. Click on FILES in the Home page http://health.groups//group/thyroid treatment

and on the page that opens, scroll through the FOLDERS to the one entitled

'Discounts on Tests and Supplements' and on that page, scroll down to the

document entitled 'Genova Diagnostics' and follow the instructions there to

claim your discount by being a TPA member. Remember to tell them that TPA is

your medical practitioner. They will send you out the saliva kit and once the

results have come back, post the results with the reference range for each of

the 4 times the saliva was checked, and we will help with their interpretation.

If

a patient is suffering symptoms of hypothyroidism, and their thyroid function

tests are normal, many, many doctors will give their patient a diagnosis of

either CFS, FM and often ME - and leave them with no treatment whatsoever,

which is cruelty in the extreme, yet all of these 'dustbin diagnosis' can be

treated with the active thyroid hormone T3. Your husband may need to change to

T3 to get back his normal health.

If

it is found he also has low adrenal reserve, again in the FILES SECTION, and in

the same folder, click on 'Nutri Ltd' and you will see that you can get 33%

discounts for the adrenal supplements he is likely to need. We usually

recommend Nutri Adrenal Extra with liquorice tincture and Siberian Ginseng, not

forgetting that he will need at least 3/4000mgs vitamin C to help with

absorption.

You

need to ask his doctor also to test his levels of iron, transferrin saturation%,

ferritin, vitamin b12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc, and

again, when the results come back, post them here for us to help interpret. If

any of these are low in the range, no amount of thyroid hormone can be properly

utilised at the cellular level until whatever is low has been supplemented.

Luv

- Sheila

This one is a question on behalf on my husband.

He started taking levothyroxine, about a month ago, after being ill for years.

He had thought he had a recurrence of previous ME/CFS, even when he got thyroid

nodules and had half his thyroid removed, because he was told that his thyroid

levels were still OK. But last month, his doctor decided they were too low and

started him on the levothyroxine and he felt, initially, amazing! But now, he's

very up and down. I think after all those years of illness, he is adrenally

fatigued so it doesn't surprise me. We've started temperature charts, and his

temps are very low: between 35.5 and 36.6, and erratic.

The question is, what now? Should he take adrenal support, and if so, what

exactly?

Should we do the saliva cortisol test?

thanks,

Helen

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sheila, I think we will. I'm very grateful for your guidance, I was

feeling quite overwhelmed with it all...

x H

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> Helen, I would do the Saliva Test by Genova Diagnostics.