adrenal fatigue

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Hi and thank you for replying to my post about my adrenals fatigue that has resurfaced after being really quite well for the past couple of years. In answer to your queries, I'm not sure what hormonal deficiencies that I may have. I havn't done the hertoghe questionnaire yet, but I will. As I said, I was feeling pretty well and then I experienced a traumatic incident which I have now been told that I am experiencing post traumatic stress from ......... I started treatemnt for this three weeks ago (which is helping). I have then had a flu like virus and I think the

combo of the two things has given my adrenals a real hammering. I have just gone back on my adrenal friendly diet but it's probably too soon to see any effects from that yet. Supplement wise I currently take 2000mg vit c throughtout the day, B12 Complex(250mcg B12, 20mg B2, 20mg B120mg B6), 200ug selenium, 15mg zinc and about 4000iu of D3 a day. I am currently on40 mcg of T3 a day split into 4 doses starting at 6.30 am and then every four hours. I take five NA which I have done for years which I take at 10am. I'm wondering, maybe my thyroid is supported well now on the T3 and I'm overdoing it with the NA ? I was always lead to believe that when you are on T3, that you need to

take plenty of adrenal support ? As far as the Isocort goes, another forum member has told me that it's been reformulated as is now not really doing anything..... it's a shame as it really helped me before. I may need to take HC but I have no idea how to go about this. My endo says that it's a total no-no so I'm not going to get any help there. My last blood tests results were; TSH 1.72 (0.3-3.94)FT4 0.3 (12.3-20.2)FT3 2.1 (3.7-6.7) Low T3 huh ? But my

endo flatly refuses to raise my dose and keeps looking at my TSH and all that old rubbish. And actually, I feel ok on my dose, I tried to raise it myself to 50mcg and I felt very hyper. I'm pretty sure its my adrenals. My most annoying and dibiltating symptom right now is full-on hot flushes every half hour that are so intense that I can barely function ! I've had these since I had the fluey virus. Sorry, I've really made a long post but I'm desperate. I have two kids, one with difficulties and I HAVE to work and run the home and right now I'm feeling very low and desperate, despite being a pretty tough cookie. Any advice is most, most

welcome, julia

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Hello

>  

> In answer to your queries, I'm not sure what hormonal deficiencies that I may

have. I havn't done the hertoghe questionnaire yet, but I will.

Please do do this, it might help. Hot flushes might be sex hormones? If you

have low thyroid, and low adrenals, you may have other imbalances.

0 = No/Never | 1 = Not Much/Sometimes | 2 = In Moderation/Regularly

3 = A Lot/Often | 4 = Tremendously/Constantly (from

http://x.saravanan.org/HormoneBook)

ACTH

I have patches of hair loss

I have very pale complexion

I sunburn easily

I often have memory loss

I am stressed out/I'm facing many difficulties

My blood pressure has dropped

My friends tell me I look thinner

Aldosterone

I uninate too many times a day

I crave salty foods

My blood pressure is low

I feel dizzy when I stand up

I feel much better lying down than standing up

Calcitocin

I have compression fractures in my spine

I've lost weight

My back hurts

I'm very sensitive to pain

I have thyroid problems (goiter, thyroid insufficiency, radiation applied to

this area)

Cortisol

My face looks thinner

My friends call me skinny

I have eczema, psoriasis, urticaria (nettle rash), skin allergies, or other

rashes

My heart beats quickly

My blood pressure is low

I crave salt and sugar (to the extent of binging)

I have digestive problem

I have allergies (hay fever, asthma, etc.)

I'm stressed out

I'm easily confused

DHEA

My hair is dry

My skin and eyes are dry

My muscle are flabby

My belly is getting fat

I don't have much hair under my arm (0 = plenty of hair/4=hairless)

I don't have much hair in pubic area (0 = plenty of hair/4 = hairless)

I don't have much fatty tissue in the pubic area (flat " mount of venus " in

women) (0=padded/4=flat)

My body doesn't have much of special scent during sexual arousal

I can't tolerate noise

My libido is low

EPO

I have a particularly pale complexion

Prolonged physical effort leaves me breathless

I'm anemic (diagnosed with a blood test)

" A sense of well being " What is that?

My blood test shows an increased BUN (blood uric nitrogen) level

Estrogen

I'm losing hair on top of my head

I'm getting thin, vertical wrinkles above my lips

My breasts are droopy

My face is too hairy

My eyes are dry and easily irritated

I have hot flashes

I feel tired constantly

I am depressed

Women with periods: My menstural flow is light (0=moderate/4=none)

Women with periods: My cycles are irregular (<27 days or >31 days)

Women without periods: I do not feel like making love anymore

Growth Hormone

My hair is thinning

My cheeks sag

My gums are receding

My abdomen is flabby/I've got a " spare tire "

My muscle are slack

My skin is thin and/or dry

It's hard to recover after physical activity

I feel exhausted

I don't like the world (I tend to isolate myself)

I feel contineously anxious and worried

Insulin

I crave sugar and sweets, and eat a lot of them

I'm always thirsty

I urinate a lot during the day as well as at night

I have difficulty healing

My stomach and buttocks are skinny

Melatonin

I look older than I am

I have trouble falling sleep at night

I wake up during the night

And I can't get back to sleep

My mind is busy with anxious throughts while I'm trying to fall asleep

My feet are too hot at night

When I get up, I don't feel rested

I feel like I'm living out of sync with the world, going to bed late and waking

up late

I can't tolerate jet lag

I somke, dring, and/or use a beta-blocker or a sleep aid

Pregnenolone

I have memory loss

My joints hurt (fingers, wrists, elbows, feet, ankles, knees)

I'm feeling a bit drained and I have a hard time handling stress

I don't see colours as brightly as before

I have lost interest in art; I don't appreciate art as much anymore

I don't have much hair under my arms or in the pubic area (0=plenty/4=hairless)

My muscles are flabby

I have abundant, light-coloured urine during the day

I have low blood pressure

I crave salty foods

Progesterone

My breasts are large

My close friends complain I'm nervous and agitated

I feel anxious

I sleep lightly and restlessly

Pre-menopausal & HRT menopausal women: My breasts are swollen and tender or

painful before my period

…and my lower belly is swollen…

…and I'm irritable and aggressive…

…and I lose my self-control…

I have heavy periods…

and they are contineously painful

Testosterone

My face has gotten slack and more wrinkled

I've lost music tone

My belly tend to get fat

I'm constantly tired

I feel like making love less often than I used to

Men only: My breasts are getting fatty

Men Only: I feel less less-confident and more hesitant

Men Only: My sexual performance is poorer than it used to be

Men Only: I have hot flashes and sweats

Men Only: I tire easily with physical activity

Thyroid Hormones

I'm sensitive to cold

My hands and feet are always cold

In the morning my face is puffy and my eyelids are swollen

I put on weight easily

I have dry skin

I have trouble getting up in the morning

I feel more cured at rest than when I am active

I am constipated

My joints are stiff in the morning

I feel like I'm living in slow motion

Vasopressin

I'm thirsty at night

I get up at night to urinate

I bleed a lot when I get hurt

I'm losing my memory

I have a hard time thinking straight

>As I said, I was feeling pretty well and then I experienced a traumatic

incident which I have now been told that I am experiencing post traumatic stress

from ......... I started treatemnt for this three weeks ago (which is helping).

I read that EMDR can be good for helping with post traumatic stress, and so can

the 'rewind technique' from human givens therapy, and also EFT/tapping?

> I have just gone back on my adrenal friendly diet but it's probably too soon

to see any effects from that yet.

i'm told an adrenal friendly diet should contain animal derived foods (boiled),

soft boiled eggs, raw ham (eg parma)or bacon, other animal foods eg pork,

chicken but not milk.

> Supplement wise I currently take 2000mg vit c throughtout the day, B12

Complex(250mcg B12, 20mg B2, 20mg B120mg B6), 200ug selenium, 15mg zinc and

about 4000iu of D3 a day.  I am currently on40 mcg of T3 a day split into 4

doses starting at  6.30 am and then every four hours. I take five NA which I

have done for years which I take at 10am.

Do you take Vitamin A? i have learnt that this is important, too.

 

> I'm wondering, maybe my thyroid is supported well now on the T3 and I'm

overdoing it with the NA ? I was always lead to believe that when you are on T3,

that you need to take plenty of adrenal support ?

I don't know about that sorry, but I found the NA too stimulating.  

> As far as the Isocort goes, another forum member has told me that it's been

reformulated as is now not really doing anything..... it's a shame as it really

helped me before.

Ok but there is still the thorne adrenal cortex:

http://www.mandimart.co.uk/adrenal-cortex-50mg-by-thorne-research-60-capsules-71\

9-p.asp

> I'm pretty sure its my adrenals. My most annoying and dibiltating symptom

right now is full-on hot flushes every half hour that are so intense that I can

barely function ! I've had these since I had the fluey virus.

Ok well i would check your symptoms above and see what they point to. This is

important.

 

> Sorry, I've really made a long post but I'm desperate. I have two kids, one

with difficulties and I HAVE to work and run the home and right now I'm feeling

very low and desperate, despite being a pretty tough cookie.

>  

> Any advice is most, most welcome,

I would look at the hertoghe questions above, and see what the symptoms point to

( you can't get help unless you know what symptoms/deficiency you're trying to

treat). I would consider taking Vitamin A and the thorne extract. Why are you

on T3 only? I am not familiar with your background, did NDT or T4 (in a proper

dose) not help? Perhaps T3 is too much for your adrenals?

chris

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I would not recommend taking either DHEA or Pregnenolone (both adrenal hormones) without testing / knowing your levels. Since they are part of the sex hormone cascade you can have issues. Instead, I recommend adrenal glandular products, Vit C, Magnesium, and unrefined salt. This has worked well. If you get the DHEA and Pregnenolone blood levels done and they are low then you can add that as well. I took all three - plus the nutrient supplements to heal my adrenals.

Buist, ND HC

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