Re: Poly cystic ovary syndrome query

[Guest guest]

Jackie

Perhaps your friends daughter should get her adrenals checked to

see whether she might be suffering with an excessive secretion of cortisol. She

might be suffering with Cushing's Syndrome, so this needs to be ruled out - see

http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Cushing's-Syndrome.htm

.. She can get tested by the Genova Diagnostics 24 hour saliva test, but the NHS

should do this test for her. It's called an ACTH test and it is a blood test

that has to be done at the hospital first thing in a morning. They take blood

when she arrives, and then give her an injection of Synacthen, she waits for

half an hour and they draw blood again to see what is happening.

The problem with symptoms of hypothyroidism is that they are not

specific to hypothyroidism, they can be symptoms of many other diseases, but

has she had any blood tests done to check her thyroid levels and has she been

tested to see whether she has thyroid antibodies, especially if there are other

members of her family who have a thyroid or autoimmune disease. She needs to

ask her doctor to test her TSH, Free T4, Free T3 and TPO and TgAb antibodies.

Luv - Sheila

A friend's daughter (not seen her GP) has all

these symptoms which fit poly cystic ovary syndrome i.e.

excessive body hair

light periods

weight gain

acne

hair loss from the head

Together with fatigue, always cold and also heat intolerant (hypothyroid

symptoms).

But surely aren't these all hypothyroid symptoms causing an excess of

testosterone giving the excess hair symptoms? Is PCOS just another diagnosis

doctors use in the same way they use IBS,CFS/ME and if treated for

hypothyroidism the symptoms would be relieved or even disappear?

Any suggestions or comments most welcome?

Thanks.

Jackie x

[Guest guest]

Hi Jackie,

If your friends daughter does not get anywhere with this and Cushing's is

eliminated, try looking at the use of iodine for PCOS. I am aware that it can be

quite helpful.

Also McK Jefferies book 'The Safe Uses of Cortisol' talks alot about

PCOS and hirsutism and treatments that he has used. He considers PCOS is an

abnormal function of the adrenals, the ovaries and at least sometimes also the

thyroid. I am not sure that the NHS would agree with this!

Dr P on Saturday told me that he had dinner with this Dr many years ago - he was

very impressed with him. Sadly no longer with us.

Just something to consider for your friend.

How old is her daughter as this will probably affect what the NHS does if

anything.

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> A friend's daughter (not seen her GP) has all these symptoms which fit poly

cystic ovary syndrome i.e.

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> excessive body hair

> light periods

> weight gain

> acne

> hair loss from the head

>

> Together with fatigue, always cold and also heat intolerant (hypothyroid

symptoms).

>

> But surely aren't these all hypothyroid symptoms causing an excess of

testosterone giving the excess hair symptoms? Is PCOS just another diagnosis

doctors use in the same way they use IBS,CFS/ME and if treated for

hypothyroidism the symptoms would be relieved or even disappear?

>

> Any suggestions or comments most welcome?

>

> Thanks.

>

> Jackie x

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jackie, well cystic ovary syndrome is autoimmune and so is most hypo/hyper. this is the connection.! angel.

[Guest guest]

I understand PCOS is related to insulin resistance and they can give metformin

to help with this?

http://www.bupa.co.uk/individuals/health-information/directory/p/pcos

What causes the insulin resistance though...?

" The exact reasons why you may develop PCOS aren't fully understood at present.

Several factors seem to be important.

PCOS runs in some families, so there may be a genetic link.

High levels of certain hormones may also cause PCOS. For example, you may have

resistance to insulin, the hormone that controls your blood sugar level. This

means the level of insulin in your blood needs to be higher than normal to

control your blood sugar level. The extra insulin may cause your ovaries to make

too much testosterone, which can lead to excess hair and acne. Increase in

testosterone can also stop ovulation.

If you have excess body fat, this can make insulin resistance - and the symptoms

of PCOS - worse. "

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what else tends to run in families (hint)? i wonder when they identified pcos

as a syndrome....could it be related to the under treatment of other conditions

like sex hormone imbalances or hypothyroidism? Though not everything is

thyroid related, of course.

chris

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> A friend's daughter (not seen her GP) has all these symptoms which fit poly

cystic ovary syndrome i.e.

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