Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Good question. The Lowest Adverse Effect Level for selenium for long term use according to the US government is 910 mcg. This is a conservative estimate of a dose where "toxicity may occur rarely, but for some sensitive subgroups it does apply." Since this is the "lowest" -- 600 mcg is considered to be safe AND recommended for people with HIV by Dr. Will or the University or Alabama. He's a world authority on selenium who has focused on HIV. I take 650 per day myself to reduce potential for cancers, in general. I studied selenium toxicity a few years ago - before I raised my own dose and saw how they calculate the "lowest adverse effect level." It is QUITE conservative. Mooney www.michaelmooney.net www.medibolics.com From: BeardJim@... [mailto:BeardJim@...] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:57 PMmmooney@...Subject: Re: selenium I think the researchers from the University of Miami recommended 200 mcg of selenium daily for HIV'ers. Also, I read some where that you can overdo Selenium. Wouldn't 600 mcg be a bit too much? AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Dear Steph, Just don't overdo it. The easiest way is to eat two brazil nuts daily. That suggestion is from Dr. . Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman Re: Re: Re: candida overgrowth--Duncan, selenium > > Awhile back I had read something quite convinceing about selenium being > harmful. Do you know anything about this and if it was just large > doses or a certain type or brand etc../??? Steph > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 The devil as usual is in the details. Only Brazil nuts grown in the selenium-rich soils of Brazil contain selenium. Central Amercican Brazil nuts are grown in selenium-deficient soils and these Brazil nuts are selenium-deficient. Many plants concentrate selenium a bit but according to the USDA the natural selenium in plants is a mixture of bioavailable and non-bioavailable; non-bioavailable is called more toxic but at the low doses found in food it doesn't matter. Anyway, beware of generalizations, even from prestigious doctors. You have to know where your Brazil nuts are grown for this exercise to be satisfactory, and I've found my supermarket grocer doesn't know and I'd have to dig my way up the food chain to find out if the wholesaler does; the importer is sure to know. Mixing two sources of Brazil nuts (or not) in the same bin at the store hasn't been accounted for either. Duncan On 7 Sep 2007 at 9:44, oxyplus wrote: > > Posted by: " Saul Pressman " saul@... ozonetherapy > Date: Thu Sep 6, 2007 6:31 pm ((PDT)) > > Dear Steph, > > Just don't overdo it. > > The easiest way is to eat two brazil nuts daily. > That suggestion is from Dr. . > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Dr. Pressman, when you have candida, technically, Brazil nuts are forbidden. However, I am not doing the stricto diet because that did not work for me anyway and I nearly starved to death and was very deficient. I still have the candida just as bad, but I am much stronger and can get around now that I am eating some real food again. No starches or sugar of course, but super quality foods within reason and some fruit that is ower in sugar than others like granny apples and cantalope etc... Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Steph, you should gain your health back pretty dramatically if you can get your antioxidant levels up again for a few months. Glutathione for example is always depleted in illness and can be completely so in the irritated portions of bowel lining. Glutathione depletion allows a continuing damage reaction, and continual depletion is enhanced by the toxin irritants produced by dysbiosis. Can you use undenatured goat whey and selenium? Cystine (sic) and selenium? And of course the other antioxidants because they work together. And inulin to feed the probiotics and curb pathogens and their toxins... Your colonic results indicate that you have hit your biggest source of toxins and irritation; with the other parts of your program you should start to get results in a couple of months (the majority do in less . Duncan. On 9 Sep 2007 at 9:49, oxyplus wrote: > Re: selenium > Posted by: " ectopistes@... " ectopistes@... > ectopisteses Date: Sat Sep 8, 2007 1:01 pm ((PDT)) > > Well Duncan this is good news as I don't mind eating Brazil nuts. > However, my intestines are in such bad shape now I can no longer > digest nuts anyway and eating nut butters (which I love with all my > heart mind body and soul) burns my intestines so bad that I had to > quit eating it. Also, I have ALL of the books published on candida and > most of them forbid the Brazil nuts because of carbs probably. Anyway, > whey is also now causing burning in my intestines, something I did not > have trouble with at first and also the coconut oil. Anything that > tends to " stick " to the intestines seems to be having that effect on > me. The burning is pretty severe and is causing my intestines not to > want to work. Weekly colonics are now essential for me to be able to > get rid of the undigested chunks and pellets. Not sure what the > problem is here, but it just started about 9 months ago. Am taking > plenty of enzymes and bacteria but am absolutely not able to take any > acids for digestion. > > Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 I've always been told that HIV+ people are alcking in the selenium area and that we need to supplement. I take a selenium from Publix, not too expensive either, with a MTV. martyman77 <martyman77@...> wrote: I'd been taking selenimax for the past 6 months and hadn't mentioned it to my doc until my last visit. She told me that she didn't think I should continue to take it because she belived that it sometimes causes the hiv meds to not work as fully as they should. Has anybody gotten similar recommendations from their doctors? I trust her but after hearing what she said I did some internet research and while I found some articles telling me that the tests showing that selenium helped cd4 counts rise might have some issues, I couldn't find ANYthing indicating that it might actually be harmful to take it. If it matters, I have been taking one capsule a day, and I think that it has 250 mg. in it. She told me that any daily vitamin (which I also take) would have enough selenium in it to compensate for what my hiv has cost me. I guess I'll cut the selenimax out, but I'm a little concerned about it--like a lot of you all, I don't really have that many more to lose. Thanks for your imput. SEIZE THE DAY! ENJOY TODAY, SMELL THE ROSES AND HUG YOURSELF Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 I've always been told that HIV+ people are alcking in the selenium area and that we need to supplement. I take a selenium from Publix, not too expensive either, with a MTV. martyman77 <martyman77@...> wrote: I'd been taking selenimax for the past 6 months and hadn't mentioned it to my doc until my last visit. She told me that she didn't think I should continue to take it because she belived that it sometimes causes the hiv meds to not work as fully as they should. Has anybody gotten similar recommendations from their doctors? I trust her but after hearing what she said I did some internet research and while I found some articles telling me that the tests showing that selenium helped cd4 counts rise might have some issues, I couldn't find ANYthing indicating that it might actually be harmful to take it. If it matters, I have been taking one capsule a day, and I think that it has 250 mg. in it. She told me that any daily vitamin (which I also take) would have enough selenium in it to compensate for what my hiv has cost me. I guess I'll cut the selenimax out, but I'm a little concerned about it--like a lot of you all, I don't really have that many more to lose. Thanks for your imput. SEIZE THE DAY! ENJOY TODAY, SMELL THE ROSES AND HUG YOURSELF Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Just a quick note: Selenium could be toxic if taken in large doses, and I beleive it doesn't take much more to become toxic and potentially dangerous. That said, we had a HIV neurologist speak at a recent gathering a few months back and selenium was mentioned I beleive as a good thing. However, I wouldn't recommend more than 200 mcg per day. Whether it builds up in the body to become toxic, I don't know. But my 'gut' feeling is that if you can get those 200mcg in a multi vitamin, then go for it. But by itself, seems to me like taking a bunch of Zinc pills. Good for you,but also bad for you. Kinda like my typing! :-)! MX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Just a quick note: Selenium could be toxic if taken in large doses, and I beleive it doesn't take much more to become toxic and potentially dangerous. That said, we had a HIV neurologist speak at a recent gathering a few months back and selenium was mentioned I beleive as a good thing. However, I wouldn't recommend more than 200 mcg per day. Whether it builds up in the body to become toxic, I don't know. But my 'gut' feeling is that if you can get those 200mcg in a multi vitamin, then go for it. But by itself, seems to me like taking a bunch of Zinc pills. Good for you,but also bad for you. Kinda like my typing! :-)! MX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 We have had a lot of posts here on selenium and selenium deficiency in HIV. If you do a group archive search using selenium as a search word, you'll come across many in the last year. I'm not aware of any research showing that taking a selenium supplement would interact with your HIV meds. To the contrary. Selenium seems to be deficient in people with HIV and supplementation helps slow disease progression. Ask your doctor what research is she referring to that shows you shouldn't supplement with selenium? If she knows of research to that effect, I'd like to know about it too. <martyman77@...> wrote: I'd been taking selenimax for the past 6 months and hadn't mentioned it to my doc until my last visit. She told me that she didn't think I should continue to take it because she belived that it sometimes causes the hiv meds to not work as fully as they should. Has anybody gotten similar recommendations from their doctors? I trust her but after hearing what she said I did some internet research and while I found some articles telling me that the tests showing that selenium helped cd4 counts rise might have some issues, I couldn't find ANYthing indicating that it might actually be harmful to take it. If it matters, I have been taking one capsule a day, and I think that it has 250 mg. in it. She told me that any daily vitamin (which I also take) would have enough selenium in it to compensate for what my hiv has cost me. I guess I'll cut the selenimax out, but I'm a little concerned about it--like a lot of you all, I don't really have that many more to lose. Thanks for your imput. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Barbara, that's great news about your "numbers" and your continued good health. But I do have a question: In your message you said "when I went in for my labs, my CD4s were normal and my ratio was 1.2 which amazed my doctor. I always had a decent percentage of CD4s (about 30% or so) but my ratio was always off, like .8 or .9 with my CD8s outnumbering my CD4s." I know nothing about CD4 ratios and my doctor has never mentioned it. Is this something I should be concerned about? I've been undetectable since I've started my meds back in 1998. Have I been missing something important? Thanks, Robb in Memphis, TN Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 I take 800 selenium per day. 400 mcg are yeast-based selenium, which has the best anti-cancer data. I also take 200 mcg of selenite, and 200 mcg of selenomethylcysteine. Each has interesting data on immune effects. The govt says 910 mcg is the lowest observed adverse effect level when taken long term. My blood tests show high normal - the best range for anti-cancer. Dr. Will - world authority says HIV'ers should take 750 or so. Selenium , What is the max daily dose of selenium? I take a 100mcg pill daily and my multivit has 25mcg. I remember that selenium was implicated in bird deformities so I want to make sure this is not too much. Thanks. Larry > > > , > What is the max daily dose of selenium? I take a 100mcg pill daily and > my multivit has 25mcg. I remember that selenium was implicated in > bird deformities so I want to make sure this is not too much. Thanks. > Larry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Just about to get started and am in the process of ordering my supplements needed to be taken at the same time. Does it matter if the selenium is the yeast-free type? (I already deal with candida issues) I'd love it for anyone to recommend what they consider are the best brands of all the supplements. I am headed to the doctor tomorrow to discuss the fact that my ultrasound has a rather large black spot on my ovary, and my C135 (ovarian cancer antibodies) came back positive. I was told he will definitely want to remove the ovary. I was about to have surgery for pelvic floor prolapses, but am thinking I may want to withhold any extra surgery until I am healthier. I have eaten the SAD (sad American diet) all my life, with a massive addiction to sugar. I was diagnosed 2 1/2 yrs ago with rheumatoid arthritis. I've been eating somewhat better since then, and have been taking lots of supplements, but my life choices are catching up with me. I believe it's not too late! Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Hi ,I have never heard of an upper limit for Mg but I had heard of an optimal ratio for calcium:magnesium of 1000:500 respectively because magnesium allows the body to absorb calcium when taken together. Do you have a source that says that 400mg is the max for Magnesium? Thanks,KariFrom: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>iodine Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 6:31 AMSubject: Re: Re: selenium There are upper limits of supplementing for Magnesium and Selenium - 400 mgs for Mg and 400 mcg for Se - no matter what your dose of iodine is. Vit C can be taken until you have bowel intolerance. That is when you know you have taken more than your body can handle. Buist, ND HC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 wrote: Becky, Please have no fears about the iodine protocol. Any iodine your body can't use is washed harmlessly out of the body in the urine. The " scary " ideas about iodine are the result of disastrously wrong beliefs about iodine that are not based in science. Please have no qualms. May I expound on that? One of the reasons for the rumors is that " inorganic " iodine is toxic to the body. But the supplements recommended here contain " organic " iodine, the safe, necessary form. There was a time when " inorganic " was used, causing many problems. That bad memory has persisted without understanding. The " scary " ideas about iodine are actually genuine, but misunderstood. In the event of a nuclear attack, or sudden onrush of airborne Iodine-131 from Fukushima, people are correctly advised to consume potassium iodide in large quantities to give their thyroid a full dose before the radioactive I-131 can be absorbed. However, you do not want to continue at that dose. The side effects of high doses like that, before they can be excreted from the body, are rapid pulse, jittery nerves, the same symptoms of an overactive thyroid gland. But that will diminish when the high iodine dose is stopped. However, daily use of potassium iodide, either Iodoral or Lugols, is a huge benefit to your health, allowing your thyroid gland to make its T4 thyroxin. The " 4 " stands for four atoms of iodine! How can it make it, if you don't ingest iodine? The soil, thus the food, is badly depleted in iodine. Supplements are necessary today. You will not overdose on Iodoral or Lugols in sensible daily doses. But your thyroid gland will thank you. Note: The avearage Japanese woman eats 12.5mg iodine daily, in food, seaweed, etc., alone. There is very little breast cancer in Japan. Marji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 It's not an upper limit it is the amount determined to be needed for the iodine therapy. You can take what you feel is appropriate for you. Re: Re: selenium There are upper limits of supplementing for Magnesium and Selenium - 400 mgs for Mg and 400 mcg for Se - no matter what your dose of iodine is. Vit C can be taken until you have bowel intolerance. That is when you know you have taken more than your body can handle. Buist, ND HC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 About the traditional ratio of calcium to magnesium to supplement with, 1000 calcium to 500 mag: That is the ratio that the body uses the two minerals, and therefore supplementation has generally been recommended to be done in that ratio. However, more modern awareness has developed that while most people do get enough calcium in their diets from food, magnesium is very difficult to get. It is one of the minerals that is missing in the soil (demineralization), and is elusive anyway. So modern advice is to supplement with magnesium and not calcium, in general. Most people get enough calcium in their diet, but almost no one gets enough magnesium. Most people do not need extra calcium, but almost everyone needs extra magnesium. -- > > I have never heard of an upper limit for Mg but I had heard of an > optimal ratio for calcium:magnesium of 1000:500 respectively because > magnesium allows the body to absorb calcium when taken together. > > > Kari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Thank you both for your responses. Since I've gone through menopause, I was told to take a calcium supplement because I'm lactose intolerant and don't eat enough calcium rich foods. I found a supplement that has the ideal ratio and I am tolerating it well. I do have to get the yeat free Selenium before I continue the iodine because I've been having headaches. I did add 2000 mg of vitamin C so I think I should be good to go in managing detox symptoms. Overall I feel much better and more alert even with only a few weeks of iodine. Just had to stop for a few days because of the headaches and I realized I didn't have enough of the supporting nutients in my multivitamin. I'm learning a lot from this group. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge and experiences. Kari From: Baker <vbaker@...>iodine Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 3:30 PMSubject: Re: Re: selenium About the traditional ratio of calcium to magnesium to supplement with, 1000 calcium to 500 mag:That is the ratio that the body uses the two minerals, and therefore supplementation has generally been recommended to be done in that ratio. However, more modern awareness has developed that while most people do get enough calcium in their diets from food, magnesium is very difficult to get. It is one of the minerals that is missing in the soil (demineralization), and is elusive anyway.So modern advice is to supplement with magnesium and not calcium, in general. Most people get enough calcium in their diet, but almost no one gets enough magnesium. Most people do not need extra calcium, but almost everyone needs extra magnesium.--> > I have never heard of an upper limit for Mg but I had heard of an> optimal ratio for calcium:magnesium of 1000:500 respectively because> magnesium allows the body to absorb calcium when taken together. > > > Kari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Marji, You have it backwards. I quote: " The manmade organic forms of iodine are extremely toxic, whereas the inorganic non-radioactive forms are extremely safe " . Written by Guy E. Abraham, M.D. Please review his article on the optimox site that sells Iodoral especially his chart of organic & inorganic substances. http://optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-08/IOD_08.htm Iodine does get a bad rep due to the toxic affects of " organic " " man made " " Iodine contrast used by the medical profession. I know, because I am highly allergic to iodine contrast but easily take 50mg of Iodoral daily. V > > Becky, > > Please have no fears about the iodine protocol. Any iodine your body can't use is > washed harmlessly out of the body in the urine. The " scary " ideas about iodine are > the result of disastrously wrong beliefs about iodine that are not based in science. > Please have no qualms. > > May I expound on that? One of the reasons for the rumors is that " inorganic " iodine is toxic to the body. But the supplements recommended here contain " organic " iodine, the safe, necessary form. There was a time when " inorganic " was used, causing many problems. That bad memory has persisted without understanding. > > The " scary " ideas about iodine are actually genuine, but misunderstood. In the event of a nuclear attack, or sudden onrush of airborne Iodine-131 from Fukushima, people are correctly advised to consume potassium iodide in large quantities to give their thyroid a full dose before the radioactive I-131 can be absorbed. > However, you do not want to continue at that dose. The side effects of high doses like that, before they can be excreted from the body, are rapid pulse, jittery nerves, the same symptoms of an overactive thyroid gland. But that will diminish when the high iodine dose is stopped. > > However, daily use of potassium iodide, either Iodoral or Lugols, is a huge benefit to your health, allowing your thyroid gland to make its T4 thyroxin. The " 4 " stands for four atoms of iodine! How can it make it, if you don't ingest iodine? The soil, thus the food, is badly depleted in iodine. Supplements are necessary today. > > You will not overdose on Iodoral or Lugols in sensible daily doses. But your thyroid gland will thank you. Note: The avearage Japanese woman eats 12.5mg iodine daily, in food, seaweed, etc., alone. There is very little breast cancer in Japan. > > Marji > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 V, yes, correct. Radioactive iodine is " organic " and Lugol's is " inorganic " . It's counterintuitive but these are chemistry terms, not the term as used to describe things that are natural and untampered with. Marji wrote: > > The " scary " ideas about iodine are actually genuine, but > > misunderstood. No, it is NOT true that there are " genuine " scary facts about iodine. There is NO truth to the idea that larger doses of iodine are bad for people (such as the larger doses suggested to counteract radioactive iodine " spills " ). The " side effects " that Marji references are simply detox symptoms caused by the iodine pushing out bromides from the cell receptors, the very same detox symptoms we discuss on this list on a daily basis. Once those bromides are mobilized in the body again, they cause the detox symptoms, which do include " rapid pulse, jittery nerves, the same symptoms of an overactive thyroid gland, " as stated. Anyone who thinks that iodine at any dose is dangerous, is not in possession of the facts. You need to buy Dr Brownstein's book, Iodine, which presents the science. Another source of facts about iodine is the " Research " tab at the Optimox site: www.optimox.com So please let's not continue to make this kind of statement about iodine. This list exists to give the correct information. And the post below, claiming danger, isn't correct. -- moderator On 17 Nov 2011 at 22:09, maribob7 wrote: > Marji, > > You have it backwards. > > I quote: > " The manmade organic forms of iodine are extremely toxic, whereas the > inorganic non-radioactive forms are extremely safe " . > > Written by Guy E. Abraham, M.D. > > Please review his article on the optimox site that sells Iodoral > especially his chart of organic & inorganic substances. > > http://optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-08/IOD_08.htm > > Iodine does get a bad rep due to the toxic affects of " organic " " man > made " " Iodine contrast used by the medical profession. I know, > because I am highly allergic to iodine contrast but easily take 50mg > of Iodoral daily. > > V > > > > > > > > Becky, > > > > Please have no fears about the iodine protocol. Any iodine your > > body can't use is washed harmlessly out of the body in the urine. > > The " scary " ideas about iodine are the result of disastrously wrong > > beliefs about iodine that are not based in science. Please have no > > qualms. > > > > May I expound on that? One of the reasons for the rumors is that > > " inorganic " iodine is toxic to the body. But the supplements > > recommended here contain " organic " iodine, the safe, necessary form. > > There was a time when " inorganic " was used, causing many problems. > > That bad memory has persisted without understanding. > > > > The " scary " ideas about iodine are actually genuine, but > > misunderstood. In the event of a nuclear attack, or sudden onrush of > > airborne Iodine-131 from Fukushima, people are correctly advised to > > consume potassium iodide in large quantities to give their thyroid a > > full dose before the radioactive I-131 can be absorbed. However, > > you do not want to continue at that dose. The side effects of high > > doses like that, before they can be excreted from the body, are > > rapid pulse, jittery nerves, the same symptoms of an overactive > > thyroid gland. But that will diminish when the high iodine dose is > > stopped. > > > > However, daily use of potassium iodide, either Iodoral or Lugols, is > > a huge benefit to your health, allowing your thyroid gland to make > > its T4 thyroxin. The " 4 " stands for four atoms of iodine! How can > > it make it, if you don't ingest iodine? The soil, thus the food, is > > badly depleted in iodine. Supplements are necessary today. > > > > You will not overdose on Iodoral or Lugols in sensible daily doses. > > But your thyroid gland will thank you. Note: The avearage Japanese > > woman eats 12.5mg iodine daily, in food, seaweed, etc., alone. > > There is very little breast cancer in Japan. > > > > Marji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Is there a limit also on Magnesium Orotate? I seem to sleep better taking Magnesium Orotate then Magnesium Glycinate. > > > > > Just about to get started and am in the process of ordering my > > > supplements needed to be taken at the same time. Does it matter if > > > the selenium is the yeast-free type? (I already deal with candida > > > issues) I'd love it for anyone to recommend what they consider are the > > > best brands of all the supplements. I am headed to the doctor tomorrow > > > to discuss the fact that my ultrasound has a rather large black spot > > > on my ovary, and my C135 (ovarian cancer antibodies) came back > > > positive. I was told he will definitely want to remove the ovary. I > > > was about to have surgery for pelvic floor prolapses, but am thinking > > > I may want to withhold any extra surgery until I am healthier. I have > > > eaten the SAD (sad American diet) all my life, with a massive > > > addiction to sugar. I was diagnosed 2 1/2 yrs ago with rheumatoid > > > arthritis. I've been eating somewhat better since then, and have been > > > taking lots of supplements, but my life choices are catching up with > > > me. I believe it's not too late! Becky > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%2 > > > 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Steph only meant that the Iodine Protocol, as such, only requires 400mg of magnesium, regardless of how much iodine one is taking. Many people take a lot more mag per day than that. Feel free to take as MUCH as you want, in general. A few people have mag sensitivities but they generally know who they are. In general, humans are desperate for magnesium, particularly humans in industrialized societies where most food is grown in depleted soils, or heavily processed. Take as much as you like! Mag Orotate is a highly bioavailable form. Take the form that feels best to you. -- moderator On 28 Nov 2011 at 18:24, KAREY wrote: > Is there a limit also on Magnesium Orotate? I seem to sleep better > taking Magnesium Orotate then Magnesium Glycinate. > > > > > > > > > Just about to get started and am in the process of ordering > > > > my supplements needed to be taken at the same time. Does it > > > > matter if the selenium is the yeast-free type? (I already > > > > deal with candida issues) I'd love it for anyone to > > > > recommend what they consider are the best brands of all the > > > > supplements. I am headed to the doctor tomorrow to discuss > > > > the fact that my ultrasound has a rather large black spot on > > > > my ovary, and my C135 (ovarian cancer antibodies) came back > > > > positive. I was told he will definitely want to remove the > > > > ovary. I was about to have surgery for pelvic floor > > > > prolapses, but am thinking I may want to withhold any extra > > > > surgery until I am healthier. I have eaten the SAD (sad > > > > American diet) all my life, with a massive addiction to > > > > sugar. I was diagnosed 2 1/2 yrs ago with rheumatoid > > > > arthritis. I've been eating somewhat better since then, and > > > > have been taking lots of supplements, but my life choices > > > > are catching up with me. I believe it's not too late! Becky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Owner: Buist, ND HC > > > > Moderators: Baker, Kathleen Blake, Donna Iler, Linn > > > > > > > > > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > > > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > > iodine/files/01%20NEW%2 > > > > 0MEMBERS%2 0-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 > > Hi,if I wanted to try this suppliment to help convertion do I start low or can I start on the 200 mg recommended? > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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