My latest endo appointment

[Guest guest]

Aren't most treatments like that? You take something because you are convinced

you need it (e.g. selenium), but you don't necessarily notice anything.

I don't think the NHS recognises leaky gut syndrome yet. I presume that is why

you are trying L-glutamine? Are you also doing the other things to reduce the

numbers of bad bugs in the gut, such as cutting out sugars and reducing carbs?

Bone broth is also meant to be healing for the gut - Dr Natasha -McBride

recommends it.

Miriam

> So i have to decide if something is working and giving me a benefit but that i

just dont feel it, or that i have wasted my money and its hard to decide when

you try something for over a month and feel no good affects from it.

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> I did a stool test privately from genova took the results to the gut doctor

and he said there a load of rubbish

[Guest guest]

Pretty sure no treatments are like that, because you either monitor with tests

or by how your feeling. So if something cant be monitored with tests or by how

you feel, what is the point in taking it.

I may stop the metformin soon as the itching from the leaky gut is driving me

crazy, ive had a day off it today. Yes been on sugar/yeast free and low carb

diet for years I will have a look into the bone broth thanks.

Steve

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> Aren't most treatments like that? You take something because you are

convinced you need it (e.g. selenium), but you don't necessarily notice

anything.

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[Guest guest]

Well I don't agree there because testing is expensive unless you can persuade

your GPs to do it.

I think if we know that the UK is low in selenium, for example, it is reasonable

to conclude that you ought to supplement with it, testing or not. I don't

believe you would necessarily notice benefits of taking it, as it is just one

factor out of many.

Miriam

> Pretty sure no treatments are like that, because you either monitor with tests

or by how your feeling. So if something cant be monitored with tests or by how

you feel, what is the point in taking it.

[Guest guest]

…also, the British Thyroid Foundation have stated that the

British Thyroid Association have found there is an iodine deficiency in the UK

- so it is reasonable to assume one should supplement with iodine! But, how can

the BTA refuse to lower their recommended TSH reference range from 0.5 to 10.0 to

0.5 to 5.-0, knowing this, and also knowing that the TSH ref. range in the US

is 0.3 to 3.0, and in Belgium, Germany and Sweden it is 0.3 to 2.5? The BTA has

gone mad, and this is causing great harm to those being left to suffer in the

UK.

Luv - Sheila

I think if we know that the UK is low in selenium, for example, it is

reasonable to conclude that you ought to supplement with it, testing or not. I

don't believe you would necessarily notice benefits of taking it, as it is just

one factor out of many.

Miriam

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>I am going to get some l-glutamine in the week from a health food shop near my

work, the thing is i have tried so many things in the past without any benefit

what so ever and wasted so much money, that im always dishearted before trying

it for the second time. I tried l-glutamine a few years back for over a month it

tasted minging and there was 0 benefit. In the last 5 years of trying to get

better the only two things i have ever felt benefit from is HC and T3.

i feel quite positive that l-glutamine will help you ...(according to jarrow

formula's product) it is the most abundant amino acid in the body and is needed

for the production of glycogen which i am sure you know is the storage form of

glucose ...it is also a major fuel source for intestinal cells. i can't see how

it wouldn't help unless you have bad reactions to fillers for example.

i agree it is disheartening to apparently *waste* money ...but we learn by

getting things wrong don't we? x, y or z may not have worked before for a, b or

c reasons but life is dynamic so what didn't work before may work another time

because a dynamic is different. for example you have recently come off hc and

now take some nax ...a dynamic has changed.

>its hard to decide when you try something for over a month and feel no good

affects from it.

i agree but you are discounting the possibility you may have felt worse over the

month if you hadn't taken whatever it was you took... " glass half full -v- rather

than glass half empty "

>I did a stool test privately from genova took the results to the gut doctor and

he said there a load of rubbish, did a colonscopy and could see a bit of

bacteria in the small intestines, a colonscopy can only just about reach the end

of the small intestines, so if you have problems going on in the middle of the

small intestines would be pretty hard to see. He gave me the antibiotics they

didnt work and i never went back to him he was a REALLY bad doctor. Making

assumptions on my weight and age without doing tests. And in the end tried also

to prescribe me some beta blockers as i was having bad reactions to some foods,

i knew this wasnt the way to go even back about 3-4 years ago.

incredible isn't it ...!

[Guest guest]

Hi

i have taken l-glutamine for 3 years now religiously, it hasn't helped my gut i

still have what they call " gastritis episodes " i was still having to take

metoclopramide,omeprazole 3 20mg a day and extra thick gaviscon on the

l-glutamine but it gives me energy so i'm not complaining.

Its a good amino acid. I've started on a bit of creatine just lately and am

finding excellent results.

love sha xxxxxxx

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[Guest guest]

to me gastritis and itching skin are symptoms of different things ...gastritis =

possibly too little or too much stomach acid, itching skin = possibly liver

struggling. l-glutamine helps heal leaky gut ...is gasttritis a symptom of

leaky gut?

trish

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> i have taken l-glutamine for 3 years now religiously, it hasn't helped my gut

i still have what they call " gastritis episodes " i was still having to take

metoclopramide,omeprazole 3 20mg a day and extra thick gaviscon on the

l-glutamine but it gives me energy so i'm not complaining.

> Its a good amino acid. I've started on a bit of creatine just lately and am

finding excellent results.

> love sha xxxxxxx

[Guest guest]

Hi

well endo seems to think i have leaky gut, my liver is doing fine and my skin

can sometimes feel like i want to rip it off , i get bad itchy skin when my

thyroid is struggling.

As i say i have the l-glutamine for energy now. The only thing that really eases

my gastritis is vit c, i used to take l-glutamine powders and i started on it

via a friend of mine that cured his m.e with it. I take capsules every day and

as i say have done for 3 years religiously.

Sha xxxxxxxxxx

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> to me gastritis and itching skin are symptoms of different things ...gastritis

= possibly too little or too much stomach acid, itching skin = possibly liver

struggling. l

[Guest guest]

i've just read one of the symptoms of gastritis is *bile reflux* ....

http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/digestive-diseases-gastritis

also is shows vit b12 deficiency is implicated ...that can also be due to low

stomach acid i think

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> Hi

> well endo seems to think i have leaky gut, my liver is doing fine and my skin

can sometimes feel like i want to rip it off , i get bad itchy skin when my

thyroid is struggling.

[Guest guest]

Hi

i take shed loads of vit b 12 alongside a vit b 50 complex, they call it

gastritis because they can't find what it really is , ive had cameras , 72hour

starvation tests, you name it i've had it. I'm used to it now just deal with it

when it flares, i've gone gluten , wheat , lactose free and none of it made a

difference at all so back to a normal diet.

It is the sorest wierdest thing ever , makes me eat all the time when it flares

as its the only thing that settles it , also things like salt and vinegar crisps

ease it , a good hot curry can really help too.

Sha xxxxxx

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[Guest guest]

>i take shed loads of vit b 12 alongside a vit b 50 complex

b12, folate and b6 need to be in good harmony...do you take b12 with vit c?

what kind of b12? how many mcg a day?

perhaps salt/vingegar crisps plus a hot curry (tumeric?) provide some adrenal

support (e.g. salt and fat) so the *inflammation* is damped down?

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[Guest guest]

I'll give you a low down on all supplements i take

vit c500 at breakfast

vit c500 at mid morning

vit b 50 complex lunch

vit c500 lunch

vit b12 250mg lunch

vit D3 4000ius lunch

multi mineral lunch

selenium 200 mcg lunch

vitc 500 mid afternoon

vit b 50 complex dinner

vit c 500 dinner

vit d 2000ius dinner

vit c late evening

l-glutamine late evening

creatine late evening

omega 3,6,9 late evening

spatone in a glass of fresh orange bedtime.

plus my T3

17.5 4:30a.m

10 @ 10:30 a.m

10 @ 13:00 p.m

10 @ 16:30 p.m

love Sha xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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ooops forgot the magnesium 500 mg xxxx

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[Guest guest]

apparently taking vit c at the same time as b12 can render the b12

unuseable/ineffective.

> vit b12 250mg lunch

i think that 250mg = 250,000 mcg which is a huge dose ...?????

i asked what type of b12 you take ...you need good stomach acid...this is how it

works:

" B12 is bound in animal protein and needs pepsin to be freed. Pepsin is an

enzyme that can only be produced in sufficient amount if enough hydroclauric

acid is available in the stomach.

The stomach must also produce the protein called " intrinsic factor " (IF) which

then makes its way to the intestine so as to be available later in the B12

pathway. Other proteins called R Binders ferry the B12 into your small

intestine. Once there, IF with the help of pancreatic proteazes latches on to

the B12 and takes it to the ileum which is lined with receptors that can grab

the B12-IF complex and pull them into the blood stream.

Once in the bloodstream, another protein called Transcobalmin II carries Vit B12

to the various cells and then takes the excess to the liver for storage.

It is a more complex metabolic process than for other vitamins and can break

down at any point " .

More information here:

http://www.modernherbalist.com/betaine.html

as i said, b12 deficiency is implicated in gastritis and although you take b12

you may not be getting the benefit from it.

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> I'll give you a low down on all supplements i take

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> vit c500 at breakfast

> vit c500 at mid morning

> vit b 50 complex lunch

> vit c500 lunch

> vit b12 250mg lunch

> vit D3 4000ius lunch

[Guest guest]

Hi

i am closely watched with all vits and minerals and take them as i was told to.

And apart from the stomach i'm doing amazingly well since being on all this.

My original point was the L-glutamine that i've been taking for 3 years didn't

and doesn't help my gut.

Sha xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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unuseable/ineffective.

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> i think that 250mg = 250,000 mcg which is a huge dose ...?????

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> i asked what type of b12 you take ...you need good stomach acid...this is how

it works:

[Ed]

[Guest guest]

HCL will help. (I wrote about this extensively on TUK which you read and replied to.)

And apart from the stomach i'm doing amazingly well since being on all this.My original point was the L-glutamine that i've been taking for 3 years didn't and doesn't help my gut.

[Guest guest]

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> Hi

> well endo seems to think i have leaky gut,

Leaky gut is also a symptom of wheat intolerance or actual celiacs disease.

Since cutting out ALL wheat, my IBS symptoms have reduced drastically. You could

try a 2 week wheatless trial, if it is a wheat intolerance it will show within

that time, then a re-introduction of wheat after being wheat free will confirm

it with symptoms coming back. Be prepared for withdrawal symptoms though, as

wheat produces an opiate in the brain, causing actual morphine like addictive

responses. So you could well get the shakes and headache for a few days.

For more info, read 'Wheat Belly' by Dr..

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[Guest guest]

Hi

i've done the wheat free, gluten free, lactose free and doesn't make a

difference and had loads of tests to do with intolerances too.

I've resigned myself that its just something i live with, the vit c and

antihistamines help though.

love Sha xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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