Guest guest Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Hi all, My husband has a mechanical aortic valve since 2003 hence he is on 200mgs Amiodarone plus Warfarin,Candesartan, Felodopine & 50mcg Levothyoxine due to diminished thyroid function caused by Amiodarone. He has been on thyroxine for about 2 years. Now yesterday we ended up in A & E via ambulance as he had a very bad turn whilst we were sitting on the bus and his blood pressure was down in his boots. He has suffered with high blood pressure probably for the last 25 years at least but lately it has been a bit too low and he needs to sort out his hypertensive drugs. I am beginning to wonder if he could possibly be in need of more thyroxine for his thyroid as his blood pressure is so low, he is always cold, he sleeps alot, (always has done) and lots of other small symptoms that could be connected. He says it's the Warfarin that makes him cold. I don't don't know any of his thyroid test results which he does about twice a year. I am guessing that they only do TSH but I'm going to see if I can get them from the surgery. Apparently his heart valve is working fine and his ECG is the same as 5 years ago. I would like to know how exactly thyroid function is affected by Amiodarone, is it at thyroid level or is it in the circulating blood or at cellular uptake level? The more I think about it the more I wonder if a raise in thyroxine might not help especially as he takes all his pills in one go in the morning and 50mcg seems a low dose for an 85kg man. I can't get much sense out of him and he is the typical man who doesn't question what the GP says and thinks I am a fanatical hypochondriac and he gets that irritated bored expression when I try to investigate his health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Hi Amiodarone can cause both thyrotoxicosis and hypothyroidism. Read the information here which really goes into a lot of detail http://www.aacn.org/WD/CETests/Media/C0632.pdf and which should answer some of your questions. Can I just say that your husband should be grateful that he has somebody close to him that is taking a keen interest in his health and is trying to do whatever is possible to help him. He is very lucky. Amiodarone apparently has a very long half life of 7 to 8 weeks The amiodarone molecule is structurally similar to T4 and contains 2 atoms of iodine per molecule.7 Amiodarone is approximately 37% iodine by weight; hence each 200- mg tablet contains about 75 mg of iodine, of which approximately 10% is released as free iodine after deiodination. In comparison, the reference daily intake of iodine for adults is 150 ìg. An interesting phenomenon of the effect of amiodarone-induced thyroid dysfunction is that the effect may range from abnormal results on thyroid function studies without overt dysfunction to symptomatic thyrotoxicosis or hypothyroidism. Signs and symptoms of alteration in thyroid function take longer to develop than do changes in serum levels of thyroid hormones. Typically, alterations in the concentrations of circulating thyroid hormones occur within days after treatment with amiodarone is started, and the alterations may change during the course of therapy. Almost immediately, an increase occurs in the serum levels of total T4 and FT4. The following is a list of drugs interactions with Amiodarone: Drugs that may prolong the QTc interval Antiarrhythmic agents, including quinidine, procainamide, sotalol Antipsychotic agents, including haloperidol, risperidone, quetiapine Antinausea/antivomiting agents such as dolasetron, droperidol Azole antifungal agents Erythromycin Fluoroquinolones Halothane Macrolides Moxifloxacin Phenothiazines Tricyclic antidepressants Thiazide diuretics Drugs that affect the metabolism of amiodarone Cimetidine HIV protease inhibitors Rifampin Drugs whose metabolism is affected by amiodarone Inhibitors of 3-hydroxy-3-methylglutaryl coenzyme A (commonly called statins) Phenytoin Warfarin Digoxin Luv - Sheila I would like to know how exactly thyroid function is affected by Amiodarone, is it at thyroid level or is it in the circulating blood or at cellular uptake level? The more I think about it the more I wonder if a raise in thyroxine might not help especially as he takes all his pills in one go in the morning and 50mcg seems a low dose for an 85kg man. I can't get much sense out of him and he is the typical man who doesn't question what the GP says and thinks I am a fanatical hypochondriac and he gets that irritated bored expression when I try to investigate his health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Thank you Sally for your reply. It set me looking up connection between thyroid & heart valves and as far as I can see it is the Mitral valve that is sometimes affected and my husband had an aortic valve replacement which leads me to believe that he first had an aortic valve problem then an underactive thyroid caused by the Amiodarone that he is prescribed. I have nagged him into doing as he is told (by me) and his first basal temp. measurement is just 36.1. I'll get him to do it for a few days and as he has a GP appointment tomorrow I'll see if I can get some old thyroid blood test results. Thanks again.... > > > > You are right to be concerned. I would suggest it MAY have been a thyroid problem that caused his heart valve issue? I know this from my mum who was hypothyroid after having four kids. The fourth, my brother was born with hypothyroidism and is slightly 'different'....He interestingly had a heart attack in his thirties and has a dodgy valve. >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Hi Sheila, thank you, that is an interesting link you sent me. A bit on the heavy side but I think I have got the gist of it and it'll get through ok if I read it two or three times. He has been on Amiodarone 200mgs for about 8 years and on 50mcg levothyroxine for about 2 years. When I manage to get his results then I'll post them on here and perhaps you can see what you make of them in relation to the fact he is on Amiodarone. Cheers > > Hi > > Amiodarone can cause both thyrotoxicosis and hypothyroidism. Read the > information here which really goes into a lot of detail > http://www.aacn.org/WD/CETests/Media/C0632.pdf and which should answer some > of your questions. Can I just say that your husband should be grateful that > he has somebody close to him that is taking a keen interest in his health > and is trying to do whatever is possible to help him. He is very lucky. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Hubby needs to get his adrenals tested. details of an accurate test is in our files. I am experiencing low blood pressure also and mine is low adrenals.so don`t worry just order the test and it will pick up what the adrenals are doing. also taking the Early morning temps will help you understand things a bit better. look up Dr Rind. angel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Well we have managed to get to the GP to discuss his trip to A & E and I went in with my husband and also asked about raising his Thyroxine but she said she would rather check his thyroid levels again (it's been about 3 or 4 months since his last check). She even suggested he might have Hashimoto's so I pushed for the antibodies check. I got the last blood test results (didn't want to push my luck and ask for more especially as we are doing another test in a couple of days) which were...TSH 2.44 (0.3-4.2) T4 19.7(12-22). His early morning temps so far orally are about 35.8/36.1. I'm thinking that the TSH is a bit high for a T4 of 19.7. Should he not take the 50mcg thyroxine the morning before his blood test. Thanks......... > > Hi all, My husband has a mechanical aortic valve since 2003 hence he is on 200mgs Amiodarone plus Warfarin,Candesartan, Felodopine & 50mcg Levothyoxine due to diminished thyroid function caused by Amiodarone. He has been on thyroxine for about 2 years. [Ed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Yes is the answer to your question "Should he not take the 50mcg thyroxine the morning OF his blood test." I say YES because of the way you worded your question. So If you ask should my husband take thyroxine the morning of his blood test I would answer NO he shouldnt. Take it as soon as practicable after the blood test has been carried out. Well we have managed to get to the GP to discuss his trip to A & E and I went in with my husband and also asked about raising his Thyroxine but she said she would rather check his thyroid levels again (it's been about 3 or 4 months since his last check). She even suggested he might have Hashimoto's so I pushed for the antibodies check. I got the last blood test results (didn't want to push my luck and ask for more especially as we are doing another test in a couple of days) which were...TSH 2.44 (0.3-4.2) T4 19.7(12-22). His early morning temps so far orally are about 35.8/36.1. I'm thinking that the TSH is a bit high for a T4 of 19.7. st. Thanks.........>> Hi all, My husband has a mechanical aortic valve since 2003 hence he is on 200mgs Amiodarone plus Warfarin,Candesartan, Felodopine & 50mcg Levothyoxine due to diminished thyroid function caused by Amiodarone. He has been on thyroxine for about 2 years. [Ed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Thank you Sally.... > > > > Hi all, My husband has a mechanical aortic valve since 2003 hence he is on 200mgs Amiodarone plus Warfarin,Candesartan, Felodopine & 50mcg Levothyoxine due to diminished thyroid function caused by Amiodarone. He has been on thyroxine for about 2 years. > > [Ed] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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