Armour Thyroid

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Is it that your DR won't write a script for it? Many DR's like synthroid

better because the dose is more exact, but I take Amour have done fine on

it. I don't know how to get it overseas, however.

take care,

Christie

At 12:47 PM 9/1/99 -0500, you wrote:

>From: dlsherman@... (Debbie Sherman)

>

>if anyone knows of a place this can be ordered from without a

>prescription (overseas?), please let me know. i've searched on the 'net

>without success.

>

>debbie s. - dlsherman@...

>

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

> if anyone knows of a place this can be ordered from without a

> prescription (overseas?), please let me know. i've searched

> on the 'net

> without success.

Armour and Thyrium (German Bovine extract) can be purchased at:

http://www.smart-drugs.net/price.html

(non EU only - I think EU MAY be able to purchase from Mexico,

but I've been searching the net in vain for a mail order place

in Mexico)

T3 can be ordered from Master's Marketing:

http://business.fortunecity.com/ingram/858/

I haven't ordered from either of these places yet, but will

probably order piracetam.

FYI - more thyroid info:

British Medical Journal article on Hypothyroidism

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/314/7088/1175

New England Journal of Medicine

http://www.nejm.org/content/1999/0340/0006/0424.asp

Hypothyroid Symptom Checklist

http://thyroid.about.com/blchklst.htm?pid=2750 & cob=home

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=7856214 & form=6 & db=m &

Dopt=r

Thyroid decreased in inflamitory disease

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=8873636 & form=6 & db=m &

Dopt=r

Thyroid status of 38 Fibromyalgia patients

http://www.pain.com/library/detail.cfm?Articles_Unique=2287

Hashimoto's and CFIDS

http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa090897.htm?pid=2750 & cob=home

Hypothyroid undertreated

http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa081499.htm?pid=2750 & cob=home

Patti

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[Guest guest]

,

Both my wife and I take Armour thyroid twice a day, at breakfast and lunch.

The doctor recommended this due to the T3 component in Armour [Armour also

contains T4]. Unlike T4, which is the only one most thyroid meds use, T3 is

" used up " within several hours and splitting it up provides a more even

distribution throughout the day. We don't take iron supplements.

Regards,

Bill

| Dear E.

|

| You wrote, " I just got a script today [for Armour thyroid] and didn't

| discuss with my doctor when to takeit. I kind of assume since it can

speed

| metabolism that I should take it in the morning, but I think I read

| somewhere that it's best to split the dose for more consistency?? When do

| others that take this take it? "

|

| I think most people take it in the morning, one hour before eating

anything

| or taking any other medications. Also, some recommend that iron

supplements

| not be taken for a certain number of hours. (four?)

|

| Sue B.

| upstate New York

[Guest guest]

Here's article " FDA Raises Concerns About Synthroid " :

http://www.mercola.com/2001/jun/9/synthroid.htm

> Thanks for the info Tania & on the

> T100 natural thyroid booster.

> I am going to try it & get off the synthroid & Levoxyl

> I have been on for years. I hope it works.

> I am tired of being so tired & sleepy all the time & the weight

gain. Maybe

> it will make a difference & be better for me in the long run.

[Guest guest]

Hi e

I get AT from Mountford Chemists, 11 East Barnet Road, New Barnet. Tel 020 8449

0260

B/W

Armour Thyroid

I am seeking to purchase Armour Thyoid within the UK, can any one

advise to whom supplies this, or suggest any links to get hold of it?

sorry if this has been posted to the boards before, but I am new and

have been dx nearly 3 years with ME, and have just received my test

results from a Lab in the Netherlands indicating that my T3 is low

and I have the classic signs of hypothyroidism, hence the tests!!

Thanks in anticipation

e

[Guest guest]

Hi

I guest thats not a NHS script is it?? or do they have an account with a

Pharmacist Co.?

Could I also ask to how much you purchase at one time as it comes grains (me

thinks) not having had any as yet, I would give them a call to arrange an order

if I knew how much to request etc ;0

Do you manage to have your thyroid levels measured for monitoring???

Nice to catch with you, havent been posting to others boards, feel too ill to

play ;()

BW

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[Guest guest]

Hi e

Its a private script. You should be able to get it from them with a private

script ( I'm assuming you have a doc for this)

I buy one bottle (which is about 200 tablets I think - sorry labels torn so I

can't read it properly but there's a lot in there) The strength I have is 1/2

grain. I think you usually start on this strength and work up if you need more.

It costs about £20 as I remember

I've been taking it about 6 months or so and I will be having my Thyroid levels

tested again soon

Sorry you're feeling to ill to play - hope you pick up a bit soon

B/W

Re: Re: Armour Thyroid

Hi

I guest thats not a NHS script is it?? or do they have an account with a

Pharmacist Co.?

Could I also ask to how much you purchase at one time as it comes grains (me

thinks) not having had any as yet, I would give them a call to arrange an order

if I knew how much to request etc ;0

Do you manage to have your thyroid levels measured for monitoring???

Nice to catch with you, havent been posting to others boards, feel too ill to

play ;()

BW

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Hi

thanks for the info on AT

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[Guest guest]

According to Shomon (sp?) it hasn't been. In some places the

supply is low because the company that makes it makes another Armour

like thyroid drug (forget the name) that's synthetic and they I think

had to stop producing it for a while, resulting in some people

switching to Armour, creating more demand before supply was upped.

I just got a refill and haven't heard of shortages here

(Philadelphia).

Judith Wisdom

> Does anyone know why Armour thyroid was just taken off the market?

> a Carnes

[Guest guest]

Are you serious. This is TERRIBLE news. It's the only thyroid med

I've been able to tolerate. Surely, there's a substitute?

Can you point me to an article?

:-(

penny

-- In , " a Carnes " <pj7@c...>

wrote:

> Does anyone know why Armour thyroid was just taken off the market?

> a Carnes

[Guest guest]

I just got a refill of Armour the other day. As of yet there does not

seem to be a shortage in the southeast.(knock on wood)

Sydney

[Guest guest]

I find it reassuring that Benicar was created by a Japanese company,

and is marketed by Forest, the makers of Armour. What can I say,

small things make me happy. :-)

penny

> Armour thyroid is made by at least three companies that I know

of. There may be more. The way I found this out is that I was

taking one made by Forrest. Then I found out that Walgreen's

carried a less expensive generic made by Qualitest. After that, I

moved my prescription to Wal-Mart because it's closer to where I

live. Wal-Mart carries a generic made by a company called URL. It

was the cheapest of all at under $7 for a month's supply of one

grain tabs.

>

> Perhaps what has happened is that one of these companies has had a

recall for some reason. I hope it's just something like that.

Armour has helped me a lot.

>

> Bond

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I take Thyroid (used to be made by Parke but was sold

to another company several months ago). Thryoid is the

equivalent of Armour in the U.S. There was a hiccup when

the company was sold but I was told that Thyroid was going

to be available " soon " .

I went into a panic since I cannot tolerate synthetics, and

checked every pharmacy I could find. I did find a supply at

a Safeway Pharmacy (Safeway is a grocery chain) and they

sold me everything they had.

But most of the pharmacies were sold out and didn't seem

very concerned. It's not an expensive drug (ie not

profitable for pharmacies, hence their lack of concern) and

most people seem to be on synthetics because that's what

doctors prefer.

I am trying to remember the name of the company who now

makes Thyroid. If I can find it, I'll let you know. Your

pharmacist can find out but sometimes they need some

prodding.

Almost every pharmacy I checked into, had a different

version about why Thyroid was not available. I ended up

corresponding with the company itself and found out what was

really going on.

F.

armour thyroid

> Hi,

> Is there anyone from Canada who is buying their Armour

> thyroid from the States? I have 2 weeks worth left of

> pills and have just found out that no pharmacies in my

> area stock it anymore. Most docs apparently prefer to

> prescribe the synthetic.One pharmacist here told me he

> heard that lack of demand for it in Canada means it's not

> worthwhile for the company to go through the expense of

> getting it passed by our Standards branch. I have looked

> at a few pharmacies on-line but find it confusing. Can

> anyone help? I'm in Ontario. Thanks.

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

> Hi,

> Is there anyone from Canada who is buying their Armour thyroid

from the States? I have 2 weeks worth left of pills and have just

found out that no pharmacies in my area stock it anymore. Most docs

apparently prefer to prescribe the synthetic.One pharmacist here

told me he heard that lack of demand for it in Canada means it's not

worthwhile for the company to go through the expense of getting it

passed by our Standards branch. I have looked at a few pharmacies on-

line but find it confusing. Can anyone help? I'm in Ontario. Thanks.

>

>

............Look up the Shomon Web Site you might a Link there

for Armour thyroid, they have a Message Board also that is helpful.

Good Luck Dianne

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Rosie,

I felt better (more energy, stamina) when I started Armour thryroid for the

first month. The dose was 1/4 grain once per day. Then after the first month the

effect wore off and I returned to normal. Tried upping the dose after a few

months and got to 1 grain per day but the good effect did not come back.

I stopped taking the drug after about 6/8 months and there were no noticable bad

effects.

Hope that it helps you.

Kindest regards,

Annette

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[Guest guest]

Hi Annette,

Many thanks that does help a lot. I just have a bad headache to show

for two days worth of it, but it's good to know you didn't feel too

rough having stopped it.

Rosie

Hi Rosie,

I felt better (more energy, stamina) when I started Armour thryroid for

the first month. The dose was 1/4 grain once per day. Then after the

first month the effect wore off and I returned to normal. Tried upping

the dose after a few months and got to 1 grain per day but the good

effect did not come back.

I stopped taking the drug after about 6/8 months and there were no

noticable bad effects.

Hope that it helps you.

Kindest regards,

Annette

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[Guest guest]

>

> Hi all,

>

> I have just started Armour thyroid and want to know of others

> experiences, particularly any side effects, or any problems stopping it

> if it is found unhelpful.

>

> Rosie

>

Rosie, I started Armour about three months ago. I have been taking

other thyroid supplements for almost two years. I have done much

better on the Armour than the other thyroid meds, even though I was

taking both a T3 and a T4 med. When I started with T3, which is in

Armour, I added it in VERY slowly. A quarter of a pill, and only

increased every few weeks, to give my body time to adjust. So when I

started at 2 grains of Armour, I had no problems.

It depends on how much you are taking, if it is OK to stop suddenly.

If you are taking small amounts, it shouldn't be a problem. If you are

taking larger doses, you might want to ramp down, to give your body a

chance to adjust to the changing dose. Even if it is too much for you,

sometimes the sudden change is difficult.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm taking 1/2 grain per day, but I have no properly diagnosed thyroid

problem - a full screen by an endo found everything within normal

limits. Dr Myhill has prescribed the Armour, and this is only the second

day. I noticed nothing yesterday, but have had a bad headache and feel

much more tired today. I am concerned that I could be taking something

which I don't actually need.

Rosie

>

Rosie, I started Armour about three months ago. I have been taking

other thyroid supplements for almost two years. I have done much

better on the Armour than the other thyroid meds, even though I was

taking both a T3 and a T4 med. When I started with T3, which is in

Armour, I added it in VERY slowly. A quarter of a pill, and only

increased every few weeks, to give my body time to adjust. So when I

started at 2 grains of Armour, I had no problems.

It depends on how much you are taking, if it is OK to stop suddenly.

If you are taking small amounts, it shouldn't be a problem. If you are

taking larger doses, you might want to ramp down, to give your body a

chance to adjust to the changing dose. Even if it is too much for you,

sometimes the sudden change is difficult.

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I can understand not wanting to take anything unnecessary. A 1/2

grain is a very low dose. In some people, it could potentially

suppress your own thyroid production, without sufficiently replacing

it. Its hard to tell in just a few days, though. Thyroid meds build up

in your body, and take about six weeks to stabilize.

The good thing is that it is a small enough dose that it probably

wouldn't cause any problems stopping it, if that is what you decide.

Your doctor is probably going on the premise that some people need

higher levels of the hormone to feel well, so wants to give it a try.

Some do very well on it, some don't, like so many treatments.

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I'm taking 1/2 grain per day, but I have no properly diagnosed thyroid

> problem - a full screen by an endo found everything within normal

> limits. Dr Myhill has prescribed the Armour, and this is only the second

> day. I noticed nothing yesterday, but have had a bad headache and feel

> much more tired today. I am concerned that I could be taking something

> which I don't actually need.

>

> Rosie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Many thanks for your reply, it has occurred to me that it could suppress

without enhancing production, though I would assume it might take longer

than 24 hrs to do this? I have such a weird body (as many of us do) and

often get directly the opposite effect to the one desired. This has

happened to me recently having tried melatonin - body even more

knackered than usual and mind wide awake!

Rosie

Subject: Re: Armour thyroid

Yes, I can understand not wanting to take anything unnecessary. A 1/2

grain is a very low dose. In some people, it could potentially

suppress your own thyroid production, without sufficiently replacing

it. Its hard to tell in just a few days, though. Thyroid meds build up

in your body, and take about six weeks to stabilize.

The good thing is that it is a small enough dose that it probably

wouldn't cause any problems stopping it, if that is what you decide.

Your doctor is probably going on the premise that some people need

higher levels of the hormone to feel well, so wants to give it a try.

Some do very well on it, some don't, like so many treatments.

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I'm taking 1/2 grain per day, but I have no properly diagnosed thyroid

> problem - a full screen by an endo found everything within normal

> limits. Dr Myhill has prescribed the Armour, and this is only the

second

> day. I noticed nothing yesterday, but have had a bad headache and

feel

> much more tired today. I am concerned that I could be taking

something

> which I don't actually need.

>

> Rosie

>

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with

each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any

treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

>

> I am taking 60 mgs of generic armour. How does that compare to

grains? thanks joyce

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Joyce,

I'm afraid I'm new to this and haven't a clue! I'm getting a bit

jittery (now on 3rd day), I'm pretty sure I have too much of the stuff

generally.

Rosie

armour thyroid

I am taking 60 mgs of generic armour. How does that compare to grains?

thanks joyce

[Guest guest]

I have not read this.

My doctor also changed my son's prescription to Synthryoid but I persisted. The

nurse said if I could find a pharmacy, she would prescribe Armour.

Our local pharmacy said they are expecting a shipment at the end of August. The

manufacturer is just not making enough to meet demands. Sometimes you can find

it in lower doses - like 30mg. Those supplies are running out as well as more

people are using the low doses to fill their prescription, as I did about a year

ago.

My son's prescription has not been filled yet so perhaps I should call them. I

had to switch to T3 due to a Reverse t3 issue so he has been using my old

supply.

Can you post the link where you read this?

Thanks,

Marti

>

> I just read where the fDA is requiring armour thyroid to go thru the process

of being a new drug. That is a long process and it may take a long time. I

became aware of this when Humana said they could no longer get it. I am trying

to go thru canada drugs to get it. Does anyone have a source for armour?

Thanks! FDA wants us to order the synthetic form instead of the bioidentical

hormone. Synthroid really raised my blood pressure. I could not tolerate it.

>

[Guest guest]

-Hello everyone,

I hope I'm not repeating other's answer to this thread. If I'm, please forgive,

I'm in the Zog zone, and pretty muddle brained at the moment.

I used to take Armour, but too many side effects from it. I'm taking

NatureThroi, which is manufactured by the same people, with almost zero side

effect for me. But NatureThroi has been out of stock for months and they have

no idea how long will it take to restock it.

However, I was able to get it from Sam's Club Pharmacy...perhaps, you could try

NatureThroi and see if it helps you.

Happy Labor Day weekend.

Jazzie

-- In , dlsherman@...) wrote:

>

> if anyone knows of a place this can be ordered from without a

> prescription (overseas?), please let me know. i've searched on the 'net

> without success.

>

> debbie s. - dlsherman@...

>

[Guest guest]

I've been on Armour 30 mg tabs for over a year.

Last time I got my prescription refilled my pharmacist told me that they had

stopped making the 30 mg tab.

He specially compounded it for me (after getting my doc's ok) and got my

insurance to cover it and my co pay was less than for the regular Armour.

So ask a compounding pharmacist if they can compound it for you.

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From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of jamkaye7

Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:46 AM

Subject: armour thyroid

I just read where the fDA is requiring armour thyroid to go thru the process

of being a new drug. That is a long process and it may take a long time. I

became aware of this when Humana said they could no longer get it. I am

trying to go thru canada drugs to get it. Does anyone have a source for

armour? Thanks! FDA wants us to order the synthetic form instead of the

bioidentical hormone. Synthroid really raised my blood pressure. I could not

tolerate it.