Guest guest Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 ....I am now looking into or at least trying to get my gp to look into candida as i have all the right symptoms of candida of the stomach. I have now come off all stomach meds after liasing with ,and have found that vitamin C and antihistamines keep all my stomach issues at bay, i was taking omeprazole, extra thick gaviscon and metoclopramide just so i could eat and keep food down and stop the heartburn. Hello Sha, Just in way of explanation: I've had Candida issues all my life – unbeknown to me for the first 42 of my 60 years – since I had been treated with heavy antibiotics and a glucose drip concurrently for 8 weeks at the tender age of 3 months. I suffered from malnutrition and malabsorption and was dying, so I guess they had to keep me alive somehow... only the use of probiotics were apparently not in their books at the time. For the past 18 years I have been fighting systemic Candida issues and it is only for the past couple of years or so that I am really on top of it. The secret is `simple'.... avoid all processed sugars and hidden sugars at all costs – in my personal case for the rest of my life. This is a bit unrealistic, of course, but I am doing the best I can. Reading your mail above I can't help wondering if antihistamines really are the answer. They might appear to help, but are they tackling the underlying problem? – I doubt it. You probably know that symptoms like heartburn etc can be a symptom for too little as well as too much stomach acid. Your doctor obviously thought it was too much, and gave you antacids. He was probably wrong and your symptoms might have been caused by too little stomach acid. The Candida bacterium you will find either localized externally (skin, mouth, vagina or other orifices) or it is systemic (in the blood and organs). Systemic Candida means that there is too much yeast overgrowth in the intestines, the fungus permeates the intestinal walls and tiny yeast particles get thereby through into the bloodstream and from there get carried around the body to just about any organ, where the fungus will do its damage. Sugar we eat will feed the yeast. This starts in the mouth. This yeast is then swallowed down into the stomach where normally strong stomach acid should kill off the Candida.... but if you have too little stomach acid (and many hypos do) then the Candida will be let through unhindered into the intestines, where it is multiplying at the speed of lightening. To add insult to injury – Candida albicans gets killed off by heavy acid, but it is a dimorphic fungus which thrives in a slightly acidic environment as well as in the gut. Many of us have amalgam fillings. Heavy metal & warm saliva & sugar together create an acid environment and a slight electric current (or so I have read, but I believe it, going by my own experience). So having old mercury fillings makes it all a lot worse. If you had low stomach acid (hypochlorhydria) and a Candida problem, you would have a hell of a job to get on top of the yeast overgrowth until and unless you tackle the low stomach acid issue.... in conjunction with avoiding sugar of course. Please read through the following link. http://dshedu.com/HowTo/Betaine/ I did the test and swallowed 30 HCL pills without experiencing the slightest burning sensation. This was a stupid thing to do and I would not recommend it to anyone. But to do the test as outlined on their website and – if hypochlorhydric – to supplement with the recommended dose with a meal will help a great deal...it will also ensure that other supplements are properly utilized by the body... you need stomach acid for that. I am not sure if your GP can reliably test for intestinal Candida, you can do all but ask. One very `un-scientific' sign for suffering from Candida overgrowth is to look at your tongue. If it gets white coated soon after you eat a little sugar, then I reckon you've got a problem.... as I said, un-scientific, but it has served me well as a measure over the years. With best wishes, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 hi christina this is very interesting thankyou, i will have s look at my tngue and et you know.i have awful problems with thrush down below and sometimes in my mouth anyway, just had a 2 month bout of down below thrush and most things the doc gives me now doesn't touch it. love sha xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 It sounds as if you could have a heavy dose of systemic candidiasis Sha. Check out the Candida Questionnaire in our FILES SECTION under the FOLDER entitled 'Medical Questionnaires. No amount of thyroid hormone is going to work for you until you get this under control. Luv - Sheila hi christina this is very interesting thankyou, i will have s look at my tngue and et you know.i have awful problems with thrush down below and sometimes in my mouth anyway, just had a 2 month bout of down below thrush and most things the doc gives me now doesn't touch it. love sha xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Sheila WOW i just done that questionairre section A i got 206 section B i got 153 and section c i got 219 , how do i even begin to get rid of this ? love Sha xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > It sounds as if you could have a heavy dose of systemic candidiasis Sha. > Check out the Candida Questionnaire in our FILES SECTION under the FOLDER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 WOW indeed. Check out what Dr Peatfield says about Candida Sha and then go and check the FILES SECTION once again and this time, open the CANDIDA FOLDER. You will find loads of information there. You need to start with some form of antifungals and then diet. It's really only over recent decades that the full significance of Candida albicans, the worst of the varieties, and probably the commonest, has been appreciated. It used to be thought that it was limited to small children whose bottles weren't properly sterilised, to women, or was merely a cause of rashes and nail infections. But Candida is an endemic, silent destroyer, because wherever the immune system is compromised, Candida will rear its ugly head. Candida is a fungus, which has a relatively innocuous resting state, and a really nasty active state, where it bores its way into and through tissues in order to reproduce its evil self. When it does this, you get all the usual expected symptoms; but if it has taken over the intestines, or indeed other tissues, it can cause all sorts of on-going problems. Boring its way through the lining of the small intestine, it opens channels, causing only partly digested foodstuffs to enter the circulation, which in their partly digested state, stimulate allergic response of the immune system. This is horribly inconvenient, since as time goes on, you become allergic to all sorts of different foods which previously had no effect. Moreover, Candida has another sinister role to play. It is normally kept in check by beneficial bacteria in the small intestine; the good guys. These include Lactose bacillus , bacteroides, and bifido bacteria, which, in addition to keeping our insides healthy, have a part to play in the integrity of our immune systems. The presence of Candida, and the toxins it produces, has the effect of edging out these good guys, and replacing them with the mob. These include klebsiella, pseudomonas, and clostridia; when this happens, it is called dysbiosis. Dysbiosis is bad news since it inevitably means that intestinal health is damaged and the overall immune system compromised. In addition, this situation promotes " leaky gut " . The leaky gut syndrome means (1) antigens passing into the blood stream (2) pathogens also entering the blood stream, (3) toxins similarly and (4) undigested food in the blood. We are likely, as a result, to suffer from inflammatory autoimmune and allergic diseases. Probably the most common presentation of this is the irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) in its various guises and it is possible that Crohn's Disease may have its original cause in this process. The entrance of toxins means an over-load situation on a liver already in trouble from low metabolism. Candida has a lot to answer for and we should do all we can to eliminate it as far as possible; however good the treatment of the thyroid and adrenal problems, Candida will prevent proper response and recovery. Its treatment falls into four sections. First, you try to starve it out. Candida thrives on sugar - so much so it can actually make you crave sugar and starch. It's impossible to eliminate carbohydrates completely, but you can cut out all refined sugars and starches, and have high fibre fruit and vegetables - the complex carbohydrates. Second, we must try to kill the Candida with fungicide. Nystatin has long been popular; another is Sporonox. I recommend, partly for the sake of simplicity, Fluconazole (without prescription), 1 x 150mg weekly for 2 or 3 weeks, which can be very effective. More so if combined with caprylic acid or grapefruit seed extract, garlic, or horopito. Essential is the provision of the beneficial bacteria to replace the mob; these are the pre-and pro-biotics which contain millions of the beneficial bacteria and the food to feed them. You have to go on with the treatment for weeks, or even months; the good news is that as your metabolism comes back to normal, it will control re-infection, an ever-present risk (worsened by antibiotics, the pill, and phyto-oestrogens). You may have several days of feeling really awful when there is a massive Candida die-off. Don't worry; it will pass and proves that the need was great. To test for Candida, there is the old fashioned test - often used by nutritionists where you have a good spit into a glass of water on waking. If your spit starts to form tails and looks like a small jellyfish, there is a good chance that Candida is present. To confirm this, you can do a salivary antibody test, which is a most reliable way of making a diagnosis. These tests are available from Genova Diagnostics. Many symptoms can indicate candidiasis, which can include: Adrenal problems Diabetes Hyperactivity Hypothyroidism Burning tongue Clogged sinuses Chronic fatigue Low energy Decreased libido Thrush Bloating Gas Intestinal cramps Rectal itching Vaginal yeast infection Bladder infection PMS Depression Irritability Lack of concentration Allergies Chemical sensitivities Low immune function Psoriasis Irritable bowel Carbohydrate cravings Jock itch Athlete's foot Ring worm Diaper rash Nail fungus Arthritis Many things can be pre-disposing factors to candidiasis. These may include: Dietary factors Nutrient deficiency Birth control pills Impaired liver function Impaired immunity Antibiotics Synthetic oestrogen AIDS or cancer Hope this all helps. Luv - Sheila Sheila WOW i just done that questionairre section A i got 206 section B i got 153 and section c i got 219 , how do i even begin to get rid of this ? love Sha xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > It sounds as if you could have a heavy dose of systemic candidiasis Sha. > Check out the Candida Questionnaire in our FILES SECTION under the FOLDER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Hi sheila i've just come off sporanox i had to take four tablets over 2 days maybe i need more ? thankyou for the information this is bizzare never would have dreamed i had this so bad. love sha xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx the FOLDER > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Sha there is also a theory that biotin deficiency allows candida to change into it's 'worse' form: http://www.nativeremedies.com/articles/the-roll-of-biotin-in-the-treatment-of-ca\ ndida.html If you google this you will find out more - I cannot remember the exact dosage of biotin that you are supposed to take with Candida - I think it is more than the RDA though. Oleic acid in olive oil is supposed to do the same thing as biotin, too http://www.henryspink.org/candida.htm The reason I am mentioning this is I wonder whether this needs to be part of people's treatment - ie, as well as starving and trying to kill off the yeast and replenishing good bacteria, is it also necessary to try and make sure that it isn't very easy for it to convert back to it's 'bad' form again? I am sure it is not that simple though, just wanted to make you aware. chris > > > Hi sheila > > i've just come off sporanox i had to take four tablets over 2 days maybe i need more ? > thankyou for the information > this is bizzare never would have dreamed i had this so bad. > > love sha xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx the FOLDER > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Chris oh my goodness !!!!!!!! , i drink around 20 mugs of coffee a day, due to fatigue i eat more and more processed foods , if i can word this without it sounding disgusting but the last 6 months if i eat baked beans i'm unlivable with , the gas is worse than the atomic bomb going off i'm afraid, it certainly does look like candidis doesn't it , wow thankyou everyone love Sha xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sha > > there is also a theory that biotin deficiency allows candida to change into it's 'worse' form: > > http://www.nativeremedies.com/articles/the-roll-of-biotin-in-the-treatment-of-ca\ ndida.html [Ed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Wild oil of oregano cures candida....and everything else (pretty much :0) Drops or gelatin caps... http://www.iherb.com/North-American-Herb-Spice-Co-Oreganol-P73-Super-Strength-60\ -Softgels/7712?at=0 Cheers, JOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Sha - a word of warning - unless you treat candida aggressively and follow the treatment and diet 100%, you will only make matters worse. It is going to be a bind to do this from what you say about your coffee drinking and eating habits, but you really do have to work at this 100% and be determined to put a stop to your candida once and for all. Good luck Luv - Sheila oh my goodness !!!!!!!! , i drink around 20 mugs of coffee a day, due to fatigue i eat more and more processed foods , if i can word this without it sounding disgusting but the last 6 months if i eat baked beans i'm unlivable with , the gas is worse than the atomic bomb going off i'm afraid, it certainly does look like candidis doesn't it , wow thankyou everyone love Sha xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sha > > there is also a theory that biotin deficiency allows candida to change into it's 'worse' form: > > http://www.nativeremedies.com/articles/the-roll-of-biotin-in-the-treatment-of-candida.html [Ed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Please be very careful with die off - it can make you feel worse There are some products like 'candex' which are supposed to cause less die off, but i don't know if that's correct chris > > Chris > oh my goodness !!!!!!!! , i drink around 20 mugs of coffee a day, due to fatigue i eat more and more processed foods , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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