* ATTENTION: STEPHANIE, Re: Lugol's and Optimal Concentration!

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Ken,I have a goiter, but it is to the inside of my throat ( gives me trouble sometimes) and it does not show, so you may be looking at a person and never see the goiter. I have been on Ioderal for about 3 years. I used to use iodine in Germany when I was growing up, but when I asked the doctors here in the States about getting it they just blew it off. So for many years I could not get it and finally my doctor I use for my RA let me have it when I asked for it. I feel so much better since I started to take it.Where I come from in Germany the soil has no iodine in it since the glaciers striped it of all minerals.EvaFrom: gagokahno <gagokahno@...>iodine Sent: Mon, October 17, 2011 9:07:19 AMSubject: * ATTENTION: STEPHANIE, Re: "Lugol's" and Optimal Concentration!

Yes, it's very sad, especially when you have children BORN with the outcome of Iodine deficiency. Lots of people do things for their children to ensure their health and are completely missing out on Iodine. I can't understand giving known and unknown poisons though and thinking it is good. Never will either. I too have been looking at people with bulging eyes and thinking, is this Hashi's? I wish I could share with them, but I pretty much know I will be taken as a kook. I need your kids to train me to see a Goiter, I haven't yet hehehe. So why not mention people like Szent-Gyorgyi in your new member doc and how much one could POSSIBLY take based on the past? Especially when that person was intelligent enough to discover Vit C and win a Nobel prize? By the way, thanks so much for that document, I spread it everywhere (hope you don't mind!)

Ken

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> > J Crows has many areas where their information isn't correct or causes an issue of concern for accuracy. I do not recommend J Crows as a valid source for iodine but it is up to the individual to decide what they are going to do. This applies to anything - know the source and understand what you are getting when you buy. Just because it is labeled Lugol's doesn't mean that it is the *real* stuff.

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> > * ATTENTION: STEPHANIE, Re: "Lugol's" and Optimal Concentration!

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> > With regard to an entry I posted a couple of hours ago re: the "proprietary" if you will, and/or optimal/ideal concentration of Lugol's Iodine, here is the precised definition via Wikipedia (below).

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> > * Please note that here: the ratio by definition is 1:2 ("5% iodine and

> > 10% iodide"). Whereas the J Crow's brand for example (one which I am

> > inclined that a vast number of people are actually using, is rather a 1:1.5 ratio or iodine to iodide.

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> > Thus, if I'm not mistaken, it would seem to me that the latter - is NOT the ideal/optimal concentration.

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> > Please inform me and others. I am open to any constructive and informative guidance here. Thank you, Trisha

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> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugol%27s_iodine

> > Lugol's solution is available in different potencies of 1%, 2%, or 5% Iodine. The 5% solution consists of 5% (wt/v) iodine (I2) and 10% (wt/v) potassium iodide (KI) mixed in distilled water and has a total iodine content of 130 mg/mL.[2] Potassium iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in water through the formation of the triiodide (I & #8722; & #8232;3) ion. It is not to be confused with tincture of iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine, and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no alcohol.

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Who would you recommend then? we've been using J Crow's 5% Lugol's and had no idea that it might not be working properly. It says it's 5% iodine, 10% iodide. -AngieOn Oct 15, 2011, at 8:37 AM, ladybugsandbees wrote: J Crows has many areas where their information isn't correct or causes an issue of concern for accuracy. I do not recommend J Crows as a valid source for iodine but it is up to the individual to decide what they are going to do. This applies to anything - know the source and understand what you are getting when you buy. Just because it is labeled Lugol's doesn't mean that it is the *real* stuff. Buist, ND HC * ATTENTION: STEPHANIE, Re: "Lugol's" and Optimal Concentration! ,With regard to an entry I posted a couple of hours ago re: the "proprietary" if you will, and/or optimal/ideal concentration of Lugol's Iodine, here is the precised definition via Wikipedia (below).* Please note that here: the ratio by definition is 1:2 ("5% iodine and10% iodide"). Whereas the J Crow's brand for example (one which I aminclined that a vast number of people are actually using, is rather a 1:1.5 ratio or iodine to iodide.Thus, if I'm not mistaken, it would seem to me that the latter - is NOT the ideal/optimal concentration. Please inform me and others. I am open to any constructive and informative guidance here. Thank you, Trishahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugol%27s_iodineLugol's solution is available in different potencies of 1%, 2%, or 5% Iodine. The 5% solution consists of 5% (wt/v) iodine (I2) and 10% (wt/v) potassium iodide (KI) mixed in distilled water and has a total iodine content of 130 mg/mL.[2] Potassium iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in water through the formation of the triiodide (I & #8722; & #8232;3) ion. It is not to be confused with tincture of iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine, and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no alcohol. <insert witty or inspirational quote here>

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I am not saying it won't work properly. I just don't know what you are getting dosage wise. Apparently Crows updated their website and it appears that they are now in line with what we have been recommending.

has posted who she orders from on eBay so that would be a good source.

Iodoral is always a good option. Biotics Research now makes one that is comparable to Iodoral. There are several brands out there. I don't personally use liquid lugols. The bottle I have I got from a compounding pharmacy.

Buist, ND HC

* ATTENTION: STEPHANIE, Re: "Lugol's" and Optimal Concentration!

,With regard to an entry I posted a co! uple of hours ago re: the "proprietary" if you will, and/or optimal/ideal concentration of Lugol's Iodine, here is the precised definition via Wikipedia (below).* Please note that here: the ratio by definition is 1:2 ("5% iodine and10% iodide"). Whereas the J Crow's brand for example (one which I aminclined that a vast number of people are actually using, is rather a 1:1.5 ratio or iodine to iodide.Thus, if I'm not mistaken, it would seem to me that the latter - is NOT the ideal/optimal concentration. Please inform me and others. I am open to any constructive and informative guidance here. Thank you, Trishahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugol%27s_iodineLugol's solution is available in different potencies of 1%, 2%, or 5% Iodine. The 5% solution consists of 5% (wt/v) iodine (I2) and 10% (wt/v) potassium iodide (KI) mixed in distilled water and has a total iodine content of 130 mg/mL.[2] Potassium iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in water through the formation of the triiodide (I & #8722; & #8232;3) ion. It is not to be confused with tincture of iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine, and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no alcohol.

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Linn,

Thank you for your time here. Boy, you really did your homework!

I think in all simplicity, it was summed up in your first two lines

immediately below, where it cites: Iodine 5% AND KI (K+ Iodide) 10%. THAT'S

the 1:2 ratio I was trying to address; simply and namely: 2 parts of Iodide to

1 part Iodine. And J Crow's site doesn't say that. But per reports, a lot of

their info is incorrect. So there you go. At least I understand it IS a

quality product. THANK YOU. Trisha

Iodine - 5%

KI - 10% (KI=Potassium Iodide which is 7.5 of IODIDE and 2.5 of POTASSIUM)

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> The chemical composition of Lugol's is:

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> Iodine - 5%

> KI - 10% (KI=Potassium Iodide which is 7.5 of IODIDE and 2.5 of POTASSIUM)

> Distilled Water - 85%

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> The 2 to 1 ratio for Lugol's and Iodoral is KI (Iodide AND Potassium) to

Iodine, which is what Dr. B's book states also.

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> HOW MUCH IODINE IS IN LUGOL'S?

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> • 100 gm of Lugol's 5% Solution = 5 gm Iodine + 10 gm Potassium Iodide (KI) +

85 gm Distilled Water

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> • Two drops of Lugol's = [approximately] 12.5 mg Iodine/Iodide

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> Explanation

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> • 10 gm Potassium Iodide = [approximately] 7.5 gm Iodide + 2.5 gm Potassium

[For details, see below, " How much Iodide is in 10 grams of Potassium Iodide? " ]

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> • 5 gm Iodine + 7.5 gm Iodide [from the Potassium Iodide] = 12.5 gm

Iodine/Iodide

> o 12.5 gm Iodine/Iodide = 12,500 mg Iodine/Iodide

> ß 1 gm (gram) = 1000 mg (milligrams)

> ß 12.5 gm = 12,500 mg [multiply by 1000]

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> • 100 gm Lugol's = 12,500 mg Iodine/Iodide

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> • 1 gm Lugol's = 125 mg Iodine/Iodide [divide by 100]

> o 1 gm = [approximately] 1 ml

> o 1 ml Lugol's = 125 mg Iodine/Iodide

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> • Two drops of Lugol's = 12.5 mg Iodine/Iodide

> o 20 drops of an aqueous solution = [approximately] 1 ml

> o 2 drops = 2/20 ml = 1/10 ml

> o 1/10 x 125 mg = 12.5 mg

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> How much Iodide is in 10 grams of Potassium Iodide?

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> To determine how much iodide is in Potassium Iodide, you find the atomic

weights for each on the periodic chart. Then add them together to determine the

total weight. You then figure out how much of the total weight that Iodine

accounts for.

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> Atomic Weight of Potassium (K) = 39.1

> Atomic Weight of Iodine (I) = 126.9

> Total Atomic Weight KI = 166.0

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> Iodide in 10 gm KI = 126.9/166 x 10 = 0.76 x 10 = 7.6 gm Iodide.

> For simplicity, this is rounded down to 7.5 gm Iodide.

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> I = Iodine

> I(-) = Iodide = Iodine with an extra electron, resulting in a negative charge.

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> Since the electron weighs almost nothing, both Iodine and Iodide have an

atomic weight of 126.9.

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> KI = Potassium Iodide

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> Hope this helps.

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> Linn

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Ken,it is a goiter, I have had it since I was a child, probably will never go away all the way. I had it checked to make sure it was not a nodule about three years ago before I started Ioderal. No nodule, just the small goiter. I know a lot of older people in and around Stuttgart have goiters, some are very obvious.EvaFrom: gagokahno <gagokahno@...>iodine Sent: Tue, October 18, 2011 2:55:10 PMSubject: * ATTENTION: STEPHANIE, Re: "Lugol's" and Optimal Concentration!

Eva,

I think that is why the docs was mentioning say they haven't seen any Goiters. We have decreased the incidence of big old goiters with Iodized salt but they are not gone for sure. So how much Iodine do you take and what kind? It would seem to me that after 3 years, it ought to be nearly gone. Good thing we don't have to get get our Iodine from a doc here, or no one would. I've also taken it since I first ran across this group in 2007.

I had a similar discussion with Dr. Abraham, Dr. Iodine I like to call him, or rather maybe it should be Dr. Magnesium/Iodine but anyway he told me that he has a theory of his own, which if you believe in the bible, makes good sense. He says the flood that Noah survived covered the earth and when it receded, it took with it the vast majority of Iodine, and is the result of their sins. That would make sense as to why the ocean has so much of it, because that is where it all ended up, but I am sure the glaciers played their part too.

Question for you, is that a Goiter you have or a nodule? And wouldn't taking more Iodine address it?

Ken

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> > > J Crows has many areas where their information isn't correct or causes an

> >issue of concern for accuracy. I do not recommend J Crows as a valid source for

> >iodine but it is up to the individual to decide what they are going to do. This

> >applies to anything - know the source and understand what you are getting when

> >you buy. Just because it is labeled Lugol's doesn't mean that it is the *real*

> >stuff.

> > >

> > > Buist, ND HC

> > >

> > >

> > > * ATTENTION: STEPHANIE, Re: "Lugol's" and Optimal

> >Concentration!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > >

> > > With regard to an entry I posted a couple of hours ago re: the

> >"proprietary" if you will, and/or optimal/ideal concentration of Lugol's Iodine,

> >here is the precised definition via Wikipedia (below).

> > >

> > > * Please note that here: the ratio by definition is 1:2 ("5% iodine and

> > > 10% iodide"). Whereas the J Crow's brand for example (one which I am

> > > inclined that a vast number of people are actually using, is rather a 1:1.5

> >ratio or iodine to iodide.

> > >

> > > Thus, if I'm not mistaken, it would seem to me that the latter - is NOT the

> >ideal/optimal concentration.

> >

> > >

> > > Please inform me and others. I am open to any constructive and informative

> >guidance here. Thank you, Trisha

> > >

> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugol%27s_iodine

> > > Lugol's solution is available in different potencies of 1%, 2%, or 5%

> >Iodine. The 5% solution consists of 5% (wt/v) iodine (I2) and 10% (wt/v)

> >potassium iodide (KI) mixed in distilled water and has a total iodine content of

> >130 mg/mL.[2] Potassium iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in water

> >through the formation of the triiodide (I & #8722; & #8232;3) ion. It is not to be

> >confused with tincture of iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine,

> >and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no

> >alcohol.

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