RE: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST+Chris+Marge

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Hi Marge:

Something caught my eye in your post below. No relationship between Gluten & Gas? Some people (lots of them actually) have Celiac Disease and NO SYMPTOMS, so keep an open mind.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of MarshSent: October 27, 2011 12:19 AMiodine Subject: Re: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST+Chris

 If it is only gas, charcoal tablets could help.

RE: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST+

Chris:

I never tried the Iodoral, I just thought the capsule would OPEN UP after it had the left the stomach and with Bacterial OVERGROWTH in the stomach, that is where I needed it to be. So I thought the liquid would work better AND IT DOES.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of PBSent: October 24, 2011 2:27 PMiodine Subject: RE: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST

Bonnie,

Did you find that Lugol's was more effective than Iodoral?

- you can google Genova and Metametrix and click on the find a practitioner link. Enter your zip code and it should direct you to someone local who can administer their stool test. I took the Genova one, but am interested to know which one Bonnie used.

Chris

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ido zahaviSent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:56 PMiodine Subject: Re: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST

for colitis look at low dose naltrexone.they a special group for crohn and uc

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM, <earthymom88@...> wrote:

Hi. I'm new to the group. I've been lurking for a little while. I have colitis with constipation. I've been on a diet for almost 2 years where I don't eat any grains, sugar, or anything processed. It wasn't working until I met a nutritionist (7 months into the diet) who started me eating lots of nuts and oils. It worked amazingly for 4 months. Then it started to fall apart. I've been trying to figure out what's going wrong. That's how I found this group. I'm not sure if you can help but I'm trying to read what I can between cooking all the time and homeschooling.

Does anyone have a good location for a stool test? I'm in the Midwest. I haven't done one yet.

We must all face the choice between what is right and what is easy. ~Albus Dumbledore

On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote:

Angie:

NO it's not always obvious that you have Gluten Intolerance. I have Celiac Disease, found on this Expanded GI Panel and I had NO IDEA WHATSOVER. I had NO SYMPTOMS WHATSOEVER, so of course, I didn't make any changes. I had actually never even heard of Celiac Disease.

So Gut problems can be Bacterial Overgrowth, Mold, Yeast, Gluten DAMAGE, Inflammatory Bowel Disease and many other disfunctions.

This test measured the Immune System somehow, and the numbers were supposed to be 400 - 800 and my result was LESS than 19. So I IMMEDIATELY went Gluten - Free and a test a year later showed a remarkable improvement in immune function. The insidiousness of Celiac Disease when you don't have any symptoms, is you end up with immune disorders like Asthma, Arthritis, Cancer and more and you don't know why. Who would suspect that such terrible disorders like these would be caused by something you eat?

You need TO KNOW FOR SURE, where your particular problems lie but as far as GUT HEALTH IN GENERAL, I have found Lugol's LIQUID (5%) to be the best $12. I ever spent and PATIENCE because it didn't happen right away.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of TottenSent: October 23, 2011 6:23 PMiodine Subject: Re: No progress is official+ANGIE

So you corrected all those problems with iodine??! Well, I haven't done a stool sample in years, but I did have allergy testing done, and I was only mildly reactive to gluten. If I had celiac, wouldn't it be obvious? I eat mostly gluten-free these days and it doesn't make things any better.

But you have reaffirmed my idea that I want to switch to Lugol's from Iodoral.

thanks, Angie

On Oct 23, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Bonnie Cole wrote:

Angie:

I've just read PART of your posts and have something to say about your problems with gut health. I have had the same problems for 9 years (the worst of it) and about 25 years (in a milder form) and nothing much worked for me either. I realized AFTER YEARS OF READING, that I've never made ENOUGH Stomach Acid which allows all kinds of bacteria to move in and set up housekeeping. I've taken TONS of Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes and didn't help a WHOLE LOT, but did help with digestion to some degree.

Three years ago I did a Stool Test and sent it out to Washington State to a great LAB there (I'm in Canada) and this was actually a COMBINATION Saliva/Stool Test and unbeknownst to me, they also did a Gluten Test and looked for Pathogens and Amoebas too. Well, I HAD IT ALL. Dangerous bad bacteria, an Amoeba, very little good bacteria, 3 foods allergic to, immune system in the basement, AND Celiac Disease which causes GUT DAMAGE. You should think about getting checked for that. With all the bad bacteria I could NOT eat anything with a bit of sweetener in it.

When I discovered IODINE and learned what it can do for me, I decided that IF it would help my Gut Health ONLY, I would be extremely thankful. So thinking about WHERE IT GOES, I thought the LIQUID would work BEST, instead of the pill, mixing with the food and going here and there in the stomach first and then the small intestine where most of the bacteria lived. I think that works better than the Iodoral pill.

I was right. I started off at 1 drop daily (Lugol's 5%) for a week, then added another drop till I was up to 12 drops (75 mg.) which took 12 weeks. By the time I got to 8 drops daily (50 mg.) I was beginning to feel better in the gut AND my Diabetes disappeared, Sinus problems, and on and on and by the time I got to 12 drops, my body temperature has now come up to normal.

I can actually eat something sweet and not get nauseated AND my Blood Sugar is now GREAT.

Since Iodine is Antifungal - my Candida is gone.

Iodine is Anti-bacterial - my Sinus problems are gone.

Iodine is Anti-Viral - this should take care of the Epstein Barr Virus I carry, plus the Mycoplasma Pnuemonia virus hopefully and a couple of others which cause Sinus & Lung problems.

Iodine is Anti-Protozoal - this should take care of the Toxoplasmosis

Life is good Angie and maybe if you switched to the 5% Liquid Lugol's your gut would feel better too.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of TottenSent: October 23, 2011 3:18 PMiodine Subject: Re: No progress is official

I think my detox pathways are pretty good... that is, I have rarely gotten anything I would call detox symptoms, and I have done two liver cleanses. What would you recommend to improve gut health? I'm not sure why I don't absorb well. Right now I'm taking Digest Gold enzymes and raw ACV in water before each meal. It's only sort of helped. I do have a candida problem that I am treating with both prescription anti-fungals (on a rotating 10 days on, 10 days off schedule) and grapefruit seed extract. I also take a good probiotic. I'm spending $$$ (almost $300/month in vitamins!) and ain't seeing a whole lot of anything.

Thanks, angie

On Oct 23, 2011, at 5:00 AM, Baker wrote:

I think the idea that the fact that the nodules and goiter and have not grown is progress. It definitely can't shrink if it's still growing. You should work very hard on your detox pathways and gut health.You may want to raise your dose, but you should definitely be happy with NOT PROGRESSING, and a year isn't that long considered the deeply metabolical nature of these thyroid problems. If the nodules/goiter haven't gotten bigger, that means no potential problems with any cells in the nodules have progressed, and are therefore in check. Being in check is a very good thing. Gratitude for progress is also a very good thing.--On 22 Oct 2011 at 20:21, Totten wrote:> > > > Well, I have whined on here a couple of times about how I haven't> noticed any improvements since being on iodine. I finally had the> ultrasound of my thyroid and was extremely disappointed to find out> that my goiter hadn't shrunk, nor had any of the nodules. I guess the> good news is it didn't get any worse, but I was expecting something> great. I've been taking iodine for a year, most of that at 37.5 mg> iodine, and up to 87.5 mg the past 4-5 months (I seem to have trouble> with those final leaps to 50 and 100).> > So, what's the answer? Is it possible I am just not taking enough?> I've noticed that I seem to have trouble absorbing nutrients, so I'm> wondering if that could be it as well. I've been taking Iodoral but am> wondering if the Lugol's would be better in that regard.> > I also started thyroid medication (Naturethroid) about 3 months ago,> at a relatively low dose.> > Thankfully I don't have any serious thyroid problems, no thyroid> disease, but I do want it to function at its best and the ongoing> presence of a goiter with nodules is discouraging.> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.> > Thank you,> Angie> > <insert witty or inspirational quote here>> > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4568 - Release Date:> 10/22/11

<insert witty or inspirational quote here>

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Bonnie, It's interesting that you say that. I give them Plaque Off to prevent plaque and tarter and this is what the label says:"Contains only specially selected seaweed: D1070. Free form artificial colors, preservatives, gluten and sugar. Rich in natural iodine." Also, "Not recommended for animals undergoing treatment for hyperthyroidism." So, I think they are getting it! What do you think? Have you heard of Plaque Off? MargeFrom: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 27, 2011 6:02:48 PMSubject: RE: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST+Chris+Marge



Marge, dogs need Iodine too.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of margeeSent: October 27, 2011 3:34 PMiodine Subject: Re: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST+Chris

Okay, I'm going to add some Lugol's as Kathleen suggested and see what happens, but I will also check out the charcoal tablets for occasional use. Thanks for the suggestions. My dogs thank you too, as when I am really gassy, they don't want to sleep with me!

Marge

From: Grace Coneff <grace@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 27, 2011 11:21:16 AMSubject: Re: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST+

Charcoal is great--to use occasionaly. It empties all the nutrients as well. charcoal is great for bites, etc.gOn 10/26/2011 10:18 PM, Marsh wrote:



If it is only gas, charcoal tablets could help.

RE: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST+

Chris:

I never tried the Iodoral, I just thought the capsule would OPEN UP after it had the left the stomach and with Bacterial OVERGROWTH in the stomach, that is where I needed it to be. So I thought the liquid would work better AND IT DOES.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of PBSent: October 24, 2011 2:27 PMiodine Subject: RE: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST

Bonnie,

Did you find that Lugol's was more effective than Iodoral?

- you can google Genova and Metametrix and click on the find a practitioner link. Enter your zip code and it should direct you to someone local who can administer their stool test. I took the Genova one, but am interested to know which one Bonnie used.

Chris

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ido zahaviSent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:56 PMiodine Subject: Re: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST

for colitis look at low dose naltrexone.they a special group for crohn and uc

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM, <earthymom88@...> wrote:

Hi. I'm new to the group. I've been lurking for a little while. I have colitis with constipation. I've been on a diet for almost 2 years where I don't eat any grains, sugar, or anything processed. It wasn't working until I met a nutritionist (7 months into the diet) who started me eating lots of nuts and oils. It worked amazingly for 4 months. Then it started to fall apart. I've been trying to figure out what's going wrong. That's how I found this group. I'm not sure if you can help but I'm trying to read what I can between cooking all the time and homeschooling.

Does anyone have a good location for a stool test? I'm in the Midwest. I haven't done one yet.

We must all face the choice between what is right and what is easy. ~Albus Dumbledore

On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote:

Angie:

NO it's not always obvious that you have Gluten Intolerance. I have Celiac Disease, found on this Expanded GI Panel and I had NO IDEA WHATSOVER. I had NO SYMPTOMS WHATSOEVER, so of course, I didn't make any changes. I had actually never even heard of Celiac Disease.

So Gut problems can be Bacterial Overgrowth, Mold, Yeast, Gluten DAMAGE, Inflammatory Bowel Disease and many other disfunctions.

This test measured the Immune System somehow, and the numbers were supposed to be 400 - 800 and my result was LESS than 19. So I IMMEDIATELY went Gluten - Free and a test a year later showed a remarkable improvement in immune function. The insidiousness of Celiac Disease when you don't have any symptoms, is you end up with immune disorders like Asthma, Arthritis, Cancer and more and you don't know why. Who would suspect that such terrible disorders like these would be caused by something you eat?

You need TO KNOW FOR SURE, where your particular problems lie but as far as GUT HEALTH IN GENERAL, I have found Lugol's LIQUID (5%) to be the best $12. I ever spent and PATIENCE because it didn't happen right away.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of TottenSent: October 23, 2011 6:23 PMiodine Subject: Re: No progress is official+ANGIE

So you corrected all those problems with iodine??! Well, I haven't done a stool sample in years, but I did have allergy testing done, and I was only mildly reactive to gluten. If I had celiac, wouldn't it be obvious? I eat mostly gluten-free these days and it doesn't make things any better.

But you have reaffirmed my idea that I want to switch to Lugol's from Iodoral.

thanks, Angie

On Oct 23, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Bonnie Cole wrote:

Angie:

I've just read PART of your posts and have something to say about your problems with gut health. I have had the same problems for 9 years (the worst of it) and about 25 years (in a milder form) and nothing much worked for me either. I realized AFTER YEARS OF READING, that I've never made ENOUGH Stomach Acid which allows all kinds of bacteria to move in and set up housekeeping. I've taken TONS of Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes and didn't help a WHOLE LOT, but did help with digestion to some degree.

Three years ago I did a Stool Test and sent it out to Washington State to a great LAB there (I'm in Canada) and this was actually a COMBINATION Saliva/Stool Test and unbeknownst to me, they also did a Gluten Test and looked for Pathogens and Amoebas too. Well, I HAD IT ALL. Dangerous bad bacteria, an Amoeba, very little good bacteria, 3 foods allergic to, immune system in the basement, AND Celiac Disease which causes GUT DAMAGE. You should think about getting checked for that. With all the bad bacteria I could NOT eat anything with a bit of sweetener in it.

When I discovered IODINE and learned what it can do for me, I decided that IF it would help my Gut Health ONLY, I would be extremely thankful. So thinking about WHERE IT GOES, I thought the LIQUID would work BEST, instead of the pill, mixing with the food and going here and there in the stomach first and then the small intestine where most of the bacteria lived. I think that works better than the Iodoral pill.

I was right. I started off at 1 drop daily (Lugol's 5%) for a week, then added another drop till I was up to 12 drops (75 mg.) which took 12 weeks. By the time I got to 8 drops daily (50 mg.) I was beginning to feel better in the gut AND my Diabetes disappeared, Sinus problems, and on and on and by the time I got to 12 drops, my body temperature has now come up to normal.

I can actually eat something sweet and not get nauseated AND my Blood Sugar is now GREAT.

Since Iodine is Antifungal - my Candida is gone.

Iodine is Anti-bacterial - my Sinus problems are gone.

Iodine is Anti-Viral - this should take care of the Epstein Barr Virus I carry, plus the Mycoplasma Pnuemonia virus hopefully and a couple of others which cause Sinus & Lung problems.

Iodine is Anti-Protozoal - this should take care of the Toxoplasmosis

Life is good Angie and maybe if you switched to the 5% Liquid Lugol's your gut would feel better too.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of TottenSent: October 23, 2011 3:18 PMiodine Subject: Re: No progress is official

I think my detox pathways are pretty good... that is, I have rarely gotten anything I would call detox symptoms, and I have done two liver cleanses. What would you recommend to improve gut health? I'm not sure why I don't absorb well. Right now I'm taking Digest Gold enzymes and raw ACV in water before each meal. It's only sort of helped. I do have a candida problem that I am treating with both prescription anti-fungals (on a rotating 10 days on, 10 days off schedule) and grapefruit seed extract. I also take a good probiotic. I'm spending $$$ (almost $300/month in vitamins!) and ain't seeing a whole lot of anything.

Thanks, angie

On Oct 23, 2011, at 5:00 AM, Baker wrote:

I think the idea that the fact that the nodules and goiter and have not grown is progress. It definitely can't shrink if it's still growing. You should work very hard on your detox pathways and gut health.You may want to raise your dose, but you should definitely be happy with NOT PROGRESSING, and a year isn't that long considered the deeply metabolical nature of these thyroid problems. If the nodules/goiter haven't gotten bigger, that means no potential problems with any cells in the nodules have progressed, and are therefore in check. Being in check is a very good thing. Gratitude for progress is also a very good thing.--On 22 Oct 2011 at 20:21, Totten wrote:> > > > Well, I have whined on here a couple of times about how I haven't> noticed any improvements since being on iodine. I finally had the> ultrasound of my thyroid and was extremely disappointed to find out> that my goiter hadn't shrunk, nor had any of the nodules. I guess the> good news is it didn't get any worse, but I was expecting something> great. I've been taking iodine for a year, most of that at 37.5 mg> iodine, and up to 87.5 mg the past 4-5 months (I seem to have trouble> with those final leaps to 50 and 100).> > So, what's the answer? Is it possible I am just not taking enough?> I've noticed that I seem to have trouble absorbing nutrients, so I'm> wondering if that could be it as well. I've been taking Iodoral but am> wondering if the Lugol's would be better in that regard.> > I also started thyroid medication (Naturethroid) about 3 months ago,> at a relatively low dose.> > Thankfully I don't have any serious thyroid problems, no thyroid> disease, but I do want it to function at its best and the ongoing> presence of a goiter with nodules is discouraging.> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.> > Thank you,> Angie> > <insert witty or inspirational quote here>> > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4568 - Release Date:> 10/22/11

<insert witty or inspirational quote here>

[Guest guest]

Hi Margee,

We take Plaque Off ourselves and the last time I went to the dentist, he said, "It's amazing, you have NO plaque!" He was dumbfounded. I didn't mention the kelp. They have clearly changed the label, it used to name the seaweed, which is Ascophyllum Nodosum. You can get this same seaweed from iherb.com (the brand is organic and called Oregon's Wild Harvest Kelp and a lot cheaper than Plaque Off - http://www.iherb.com/Oregon-s-Wild-Harvest-Kelp-90-Veggie-Caps/37339?at=0 ) I'm using that now so will see if it has the same effect as Plaque Off.

Lynda

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No I've never heard of it. I give mine Lugol's 5%.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of margeeSent: October 27, 2011 11:04 PMiodine Subject: Re: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST+Chris+Marge

Bonnie, It's interesting that you say that. I give them Plaque Off to prevent plaque and tarter and this is what the label says:"Contains only specially selected seaweed: D1070. Free form artificial colors, preservatives, gluten and sugar. Rich in natural iodine." Also, "Not recommended for animals undergoing treatment for hyperthyroidism." So, I think they are getting it! What do you think? Have you heard of Plaque Off?

Marge

From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 27, 2011 6:02:48 PMSubject: RE: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST+Chris+Marge



Marge, dogs need Iodine too.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of margeeSent: October 27, 2011 3:34 PMiodine Subject: Re: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST+Chris

Okay, I'm going to add some Lugol's as Kathleen suggested and see what happens, but I will also check out the charcoal tablets for occasional use. Thanks for the suggestions. My dogs thank you too, as when I am really gassy, they don't want to sleep with me!

Marge

From: Grace Coneff <grace@...>iodine Sent: Thu, October 27, 2011 11:21:16 AMSubject: Re: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST+

Charcoal is great--to use occasionaly. It empties all the nutrients as well. charcoal is great for bites, etc.gOn 10/26/2011 10:18 PM, Marsh wrote:



If it is only gas, charcoal tablets could help.

RE: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST+

Chris:

I never tried the Iodoral, I just thought the capsule would OPEN UP after it had the left the stomach and with Bacterial OVERGROWTH in the stomach, that is where I needed it to be. So I thought the liquid would work better AND IT DOES.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of PBSent: October 24, 2011 2:27 PMiodine Subject: RE: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST

Bonnie,

Did you find that Lugol's was more effective than Iodoral?

- you can google Genova and Metametrix and click on the find a practitioner link. Enter your zip code and it should direct you to someone local who can administer their stool test. I took the Genova one, but am interested to know which one Bonnie used.

Chris

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ido zahaviSent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:56 PMiodine Subject: Re: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST

for colitis look at low dose naltrexone.they a special group for crohn and uc

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM, <earthymom88@...> wrote:

Hi. I'm new to the group. I've been lurking for a little while. I have colitis with constipation. I've been on a diet for almost 2 years where I don't eat any grains, sugar, or anything processed. It wasn't working until I met a nutritionist (7 months into the diet) who started me eating lots of nuts and oils. It worked amazingly for 4 months. Then it started to fall apart. I've been trying to figure out what's going wrong. That's how I found this group. I'm not sure if you can help but I'm trying to read what I can between cooking all the time and homeschooling.

Does anyone have a good location for a stool test? I'm in the Midwest. I haven't done one yet.

We must all face the choice between what is right and what is easy. ~Albus Dumbledore

On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote:

Angie:

NO it's not always obvious that you have Gluten Intolerance. I have Celiac Disease, found on this Expanded GI Panel and I had NO IDEA WHATSOVER. I had NO SYMPTOMS WHATSOEVER, so of course, I didn't make any changes. I had actually never even heard of Celiac Disease.

So Gut problems can be Bacterial Overgrowth, Mold, Yeast, Gluten DAMAGE, Inflammatory Bowel Disease and many other disfunctions.

This test measured the Immune System somehow, and the numbers were supposed to be 400 - 800 and my result was LESS than 19. So I IMMEDIATELY went Gluten - Free and a test a year later showed a remarkable improvement in immune function. The insidiousness of Celiac Disease when you don't have any symptoms, is you end up with immune disorders like Asthma, Arthritis, Cancer and more and you don't know why. Who would suspect that such terrible disorders like these would be caused by something you eat?

You need TO KNOW FOR SURE, where your particular problems lie but as far as GUT HEALTH IN GENERAL, I have found Lugol's LIQUID (5%) to be the best $12. I ever spent and PATIENCE because it didn't happen right away.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of TottenSent: October 23, 2011 6:23 PMiodine Subject: Re: No progress is official+ANGIE

So you corrected all those problems with iodine??! Well, I haven't done a stool sample in years, but I did have allergy testing done, and I was only mildly reactive to gluten. If I had celiac, wouldn't it be obvious? I eat mostly gluten-free these days and it doesn't make things any better.

But you have reaffirmed my idea that I want to switch to Lugol's from Iodoral.

thanks, Angie

On Oct 23, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Bonnie Cole wrote:

Angie:

I've just read PART of your posts and have something to say about your problems with gut health. I have had the same problems for 9 years (the worst of it) and about 25 years (in a milder form) and nothing much worked for me either. I realized AFTER YEARS OF READING, that I've never made ENOUGH Stomach Acid which allows all kinds of bacteria to move in and set up housekeeping. I've taken TONS of Probiotics and Digestive Enzymes and didn't help a WHOLE LOT, but did help with digestion to some degree.

Three years ago I did a Stool Test and sent it out to Washington State to a great LAB there (I'm in Canada) and this was actually a COMBINATION Saliva/Stool Test and unbeknownst to me, they also did a Gluten Test and looked for Pathogens and Amoebas too. Well, I HAD IT ALL. Dangerous bad bacteria, an Amoeba, very little good bacteria, 3 foods allergic to, immune system in the basement, AND Celiac Disease which causes GUT DAMAGE. You should think about getting checked for that. With all the bad bacteria I could NOT eat anything with a bit of sweetener in it.

When I discovered IODINE and learned what it can do for me, I decided that IF it would help my Gut Health ONLY, I would be extremely thankful. So thinking about WHERE IT GOES, I thought the LIQUID would work BEST, instead of the pill, mixing with the food and going here and there in the stomach first and then the small intestine where most of the bacteria lived. I think that works better than the Iodoral pill.

I was right. I started off at 1 drop daily (Lugol's 5%) for a week, then added another drop till I was up to 12 drops (75 mg.) which took 12 weeks. By the time I got to 8 drops daily (50 mg.) I was beginning to feel better in the gut AND my Diabetes disappeared, Sinus problems, and on and on and by the time I got to 12 drops, my body temperature has now come up to normal.

I can actually eat something sweet and not get nauseated AND my Blood Sugar is now GREAT.

Since Iodine is Antifungal - my Candida is gone.

Iodine is Anti-bacterial - my Sinus problems are gone.

Iodine is Anti-Viral - this should take care of the Epstein Barr Virus I carry, plus the Mycoplasma Pnuemonia virus hopefully and a couple of others which cause Sinus & Lung problems.

Iodine is Anti-Protozoal - this should take care of the Toxoplasmosis

Life is good Angie and maybe if you switched to the 5% Liquid Lugol's your gut would feel better too.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of TottenSent: October 23, 2011 3:18 PMiodine Subject: Re: No progress is official

I think my detox pathways are pretty good... that is, I have rarely gotten anything I would call detox symptoms, and I have done two liver cleanses. What would you recommend to improve gut health? I'm not sure why I don't absorb well. Right now I'm taking Digest Gold enzymes and raw ACV in water before each meal. It's only sort of helped. I do have a candida problem that I am treating with both prescription anti-fungals (on a rotating 10 days on, 10 days off schedule) and grapefruit seed extract. I also take a good probiotic. I'm spending $$$ (almost $300/month in vitamins!) and ain't seeing a whole lot of anything.

Thanks, angie

On Oct 23, 2011, at 5:00 AM, Baker wrote:

I think the idea that the fact that the nodules and goiter and have not grown is progress. It definitely can't shrink if it's still growing. You should work very hard on your detox pathways and gut health.You may want to raise your dose, but you should definitely be happy with NOT PROGRESSING, and a year isn't that long considered the deeply metabolical nature of these thyroid problems. If the nodules/goiter haven't gotten bigger, that means no potential problems with any cells in the nodules have progressed, and are therefore in check. Being in check is a very good thing. Gratitude for progress is also a very good thing.--On 22 Oct 2011 at 20:21, Totten wrote:> > > > Well, I have whined on here a couple of times about how I haven't> noticed any improvements since being on iodine. I finally had the> ultrasound of my thyroid and was extremely disappointed to find out> that my goiter hadn't shrunk, nor had any of the nodules. I guess the> good news is it didn't get any worse, but I was expecting something> great. I've been taking iodine for a year, most of that at 37.5 mg> iodine, and up to 87.5 mg the past 4-5 months (I seem to have trouble> with those final leaps to 50 and 100).> > So, what's the answer? Is it possible I am just not taking enough?> I've noticed that I seem to have trouble absorbing nutrients, so I'm> wondering if that could be it as well. I've been taking Iodoral but am> wondering if the Lugol's would be better in that regard.> > I also started thyroid medication (Naturethroid) about 3 months ago,> at a relatively low dose.> > Thankfully I don't have any serious thyroid problems, no thyroid> disease, but I do want it to function at its best and the ongoing> presence of a goiter with nodules is discouraging.> > Any thoughts would be appreciated.> > Thank you,> Angie> > <insert witty or inspirational quote here>> > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4568 - Release Date:> 10/22/11

<insert witty or inspirational quote here>

[Guest guest]

My holistic veterinarian sells and recommends Plaque Off. The warning about

hyperthyroidism is based on the old, destructive lies about iodine. That

warning

need not be there.

--V

On 28 Oct 2011 at 13:03, Bonnie Cole wrote:

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>

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> No I've never heard of it. I give mine Lugol's 5%.

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> Bonnie

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> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf

> Of margee Sent: October 27, 2011 11:04 PM iodine

> Subject: Re: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST+Chris+Marge

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> Bonnie, It's interesting that you say that. I give them Plaque Off to

> prevent plaque and tarter and this is what the label says:

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> " Contains only specially selected seaweed: D1070. Free form artificial

> colors, preservatives, gluten and sugar. Rich in natural iodine. "

> Also, " Not recommended for animals undergoing treatment for

> hyperthyroidism. "

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> So, I think they are getting it! What do you think? Have you heard of

> Plaque Off?

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> Marge

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> From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...>

> iodine

> Sent: Thu, October 27, 2011 6:02:48 PM

> Subject: RE: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST+Chris+Marge

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> Marge, dogs need Iodine too.

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> Bonnie

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> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf

> Of margee Sent: October 27, 2011 3:34 PM iodine

> Subject: Re: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST+Chris

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> Okay, I'm going to add some Lugol's as Kathleen suggested and see what

> happens, but I will also check out the charcoal tablets for occasional

> use. Thanks for the suggestions. My dogs thank you too, as when I am

> really gassy, they don't want to sleep with me!

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> Marge

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> From: Grace Coneff <grace@...>

> iodine

> Sent: Thu, October 27, 2011 11:21:16 AM

> Subject: Re: Gut disfunction+STOOL TEST+Chris

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> Charcoal is great--to use occasionaly. It empties all the nutrients as

> well. charcoal is great for bites, etc. g

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> On 10/26/2011 10:18 PM, Marsh wrote:

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> If it is only gas, charcoal tablets could help.

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> Re: No progress is

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> I think my detox pathways are pretty good... that is, I have

> rarely gotten anything I would call detox symptoms, and I have

> done two liver cleanses. What would you recommend to improve gut

> health? I'm not sure why I don't absorb well. Right now I'm taking

> Digest Gold enzymes and raw ACV in water before each meal. It's

> only sort of helped. I do have a candida problem that I am

> treating with both prescription anti-fungals (on a rotating 10

> days on, 10 days off schedule) and grapefruit seed extract. I also

> take a good probiotic. I'm spending $$$ (almost $300/month in

> vitamins!) and ain't seeing a whole lot of anything.

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> Thanks, angie

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> On Oct 23, 2011, at 5:00 AM, Baker wrote:

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> I think the idea that the fact that the nodules and goiter and

> have not grown is progress. It definitely can't shrink if it's

> still growing.

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> You should work very hard on your detox pathways and gut health.

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> You may want to raise your dose, but you should definitely be

> happy with NOT PROGRESSING, and a year isn't that long considered

> the deeply metabolical nature of these thyroid problems. If the

> nodules/goiter haven't gotten bigger, that means no potential

> problems with any cells in the nodules have progressed, and are

> therefore in check. Being in check is a very good thing.

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> Gratitude for progress is also a very good thing.

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> On 22 Oct 2011 at 20:21, Totten wrote:

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> > Well, I have whined on here a couple of times about how I

> haven't > noticed any improvements since being on iodine. I

> finally had the > ultrasound of my thyroid and was extremely

> disappointed to find out > that my goiter hadn't shrunk, nor had

> any of the nodules. I guess the > good news is it didn't get any

> worse, but I was expecting something > great. I've been taking

> iodine for a year, most of that at 37.5 mg > iodine, and up to

> 87.5 mg the past 4-5 months (I seem to have trouble > with those

> final leaps to 50 and 100). > > So, what's the answer? Is it

> possible I am just not taking enough? > I've noticed that I seem

> to have trouble absorbing nutrients, so I'm > wondering if that

> could be it as well. I've been taking Iodoral but am > wondering

> if the Lugol's would be better in that regard. > > I also started

> thyroid medication (Naturethroid) about 3 months ago, > at a

> relatively low dose. > > Thankfully I don't have any serious

> thyroid problems, no thyroid > disease, but I do want it to

> function at its best and the ongoing > presence of a goiter with

> nodules is discouraging. > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. >

> > Thank you, > Angie > > <insert witty or inspirational quote

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