Re: * ATTENTION: STEPHANIE, Re: Lugol's and Optimal Concentration!

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J Crows has many areas where their information isn't correct or causes an issue of concern for accuracy. I do not recommend J Crows as a valid source for iodine but it is up to the individual to decide what they are going to do. This applies to anything - know the source and understand what you are getting when you buy. Just because it is labeled Lugol's doesn't mean that it is the *real* stuff.

Buist, ND HC

* ATTENTION: STEPHANIE, Re: "Lugol's" and Optimal Concentration!

,With regard to an entry I posted a couple of hours ago re: the "proprietary" if you will, and/or optimal/ideal concentration of Lugol's Iodine, here is the precised definition via Wikipedia (below).* Please note that here: the ratio by definition is 1:2 ("5% iodine and10% iodide"). Whereas the J Crow's brand for example (one which I aminclined that a vast number of people are actually using, is rather a 1:1.5 ratio or iodine to iodide.Thus, if I'm not mistaken, it would seem to me that the latter - is NOT the ideal/optimal concentration. Please inform me and others. I am open to any constructive and informative guidance here. Thank you, Trishahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugol%27s_iodineLugol's solution is available in different potencies of 1%, 2%, or 5% Iodine. The 5% solution consists of 5% (wt/v) iodine (I2) and 10% (wt/v) potassium iodide (KI) mixed in distilled water and has a total iodine content of 130 mg/mL.[2] Potassium iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in water through the formation of the triiodide (I & #8722; & #8232;3) ion. It is not to be confused with tincture of iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine, and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no alcohol.

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Yes Albert Szent-Gyorgyi took close to 1 gram of Lugol's per day. Pretty amazing. Why don't we do this anymore? Iodophobia from the Wolff-Chaikoff effect. It's sad because their original paper was published in large medical journal and then the "semi-retraction" of it was published in a lesser known journal. Doctors who do not do their own research never looked any further once the first article came out and now we are suffering from one of the most preventable epidemics of iodine deficiency. I find it amazing when I hear doctors say that they rarely see goiter anymore. They aren't looking for it because I see it everywhere - even my children have been trained to see it. Dr Brownstein tells a story of how his girls, when they were out in public, would poke him and say "Dad I think that person is hypothyroid". I wish I understood why there is so much fear over a natural element and no fear from doctors who dole out drugs and vaccinations like Gardasil with a 30 page package insert with no problem.

Buist, ND HC

* ATTENTION: STEPHANIE, Re: "Lugol's" and Optimal Concentration!> > > > ,> > With regard to an entry I posted a couple of hours ago re: the "proprietary" if you will, and/or optimal/ideal concentration of Lugol's Iodine, here is the precised definition via Wikipedia (below).> > * Please note that here: the ratio by definition is 1:2 ("5% iodine and> 10% iodide"). Whereas the J Crow's brand for example (one which I am> inclined that a vast number of people are actually using, is rather a 1:1.5 ratio or iodine to iodide.> > Thus, if I'm not mistaken, it would seem to me that the latter - is NOT the ideal/optimal concentration. > > Please inform me and others. I am open to any constructive and informative guidance here. Thank you, Trisha> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugol%27s_iodine> Lugol's solution is available in different potencies of 1%, 2%, or 5% Iodine. The 5% solution consists of 5% (wt/v) iodine (I2) and 10% (wt/v) potassium iodide (KI) mixed in distilled water and has a total iodine content of 130 mg/mL.[2] Potassium iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble in water through the formation of the triiodide (I & #8722; & #8232;3) ion. It is not to be confused with tincture of iodine solutions, which consist of elemental iodine, and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no alcohol.>

[Guest guest]

Trisha,

If you are so worried about this, why not just take Lugol's in pill form (Iodoral)? Or make your own Lugol's solution which , although I have never made it myself, I have read here that many posters make their own. Then you will have no worries. Best, Kathleen

* ATTENTION: STEPHANIE, Re: "Lugol's" and Optimal Concentration!

Megaera,Thank you for your post here and for taking the time. I remain confused however on a couple of things.First, you cited the "MSDS" of J. Crow's formula as below, but the ratio I read on their site was a clear 1: 1 1/2 ratio NOT 1:2.Furthermore, voiced some concern about J. Crow's Lugol's.So WHAT is the premier source or manufacturer bar none of Lugol's Iodine. Simple question. I don't know why this has to be so confusing. And why is J. Crow's in question in the first place?WHAT's the BEST Brand, Manufacturer or Supplier? Thank you, Trisha>> > Trisha: There may be an optimal formulation of iodine to potassium iodide for health purposes, but insofar as Lugol's formulation is concerned it is a chemical formula only, developed for use in reagent research and simply has his name attached for convenience, so there are no "proprietary" issues -- it's just what the formula is called. As far as J. Crow's Lugol's formula is concerned, their MSDS shows a ratio of 5% iodine to 10% potassium iodide and their water concentration is appropriate for 5% Lugol's solution. If your question arose over omitting the potassium from the formula to get that 1:1.5 calculation, remember that Lugol's HAS to have the compound potassium iodide as its second part, because without the potassium iodide the elemental iodine will not dissolve in water. Omit the potassium from anyone's "Lugol's" formulation and you will probably wind up close to (plus .5 parts potassium), but it's never written out that way because the potassium iodide is already in compounded form.> > J. Crow's use of horizontal-drop dosing calculations has caused some confusion in the past about how much of their product to take, but if you use per-ml or per oz content estimates appropriate for the percentage strength Lugol's you are using and make correct droplet counts for your dropper the company's formulations are as usable as any.> > Trust this is of service. Regards, Megaera

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I have a lump (nodule?) on my thyroid -- is this the same as goiter? If

not, what's a good website to read about thyroid lumps/nodules?

I'm new to the list, been taking Iodoral at 1 tablet a day for over a

year, along with LDN for fibromyalgia.

Thanks,

Melody

On 10/16/2011 5:25 AM, ladybugsandbees wrote:

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> Yes Albert Szent-Gyorgyi took close to 1 gram of Lugol's per day.

> Pretty amazing. Why don't we do this anymore? Iodophobia from the

> Wolff-Chaikoff effect. It's sad because their original paper was

> published in large medical journal and then the " semi-retraction " of

> it was published in a lesser known journal. Doctors who do not do

> their own research never looked any further once the first article

> came out and now we are suffering from one of the most preventable

> epidemics of iodine deficiency. I find it amazing when I hear doctors

> say that they rarely see goiter anymore. They aren't looking for it

> because I see it everywhere - even my children have been trained to

> see it. Dr Brownstein tells a story of how his girls, when they were

> out in public, would poke him and say " Dad I think that person is

> hypothyroid " . I wish I understood why there is so much fear over a

> natural element and no fear from doctors who dole out drugs and

> vaccinations like Gardasil with a 30 page package insert with no problem.

> Buist, ND HC

>

> * ATTENTION: STEPHANIE, Re: " Lugol's " and

> Optimal Concentration!

> >

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> >

> > With regard to an entry I posted a couple of hours ago re: the

> " proprietary " if you will, and/or optimal/ideal concentration of

> Lugol's Iodine, here is the precised definition via Wikipedia (below).

> >

> > * Please note that here: the ratio by definition is 1:2 ( " 5%

> iodine and

> > 10% iodide " ). Whereas the J Crow's brand for example (one which I am

> > inclined that a vast number of people are actually using, is

> rather a 1:1.5 ratio or iodine to iodide.

> >

> > Thus, if I'm not mistaken, it would seem to me that the latter -

> is NOT the ideal/optimal concentration.

> >

> > Please inform me and others. I am open to any constructive and

> informative guidance here. Thank you, Trisha

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugol%27s_iodine

> > Lugol's solution is available in different potencies of 1%, 2%,

> or 5% Iodine. The 5% solution consists of 5% (wt/v) iodine (I2)

> and 10% (wt/v) potassium iodide (KI) mixed in distilled water and

> has a total iodine content of 130 mg/mL.[2] Potassium iodide

> renders the elementary iodine soluble in water through the

> formation of the triiodide (I & #8722; & #8232;3) ion. It is not to be

> confused with tincture of iodine solutions, which consist of

> elemental iodine, and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol.

> Lugol's solution contains no alcohol.

> >

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[Guest guest]

A couple of things.

The concern about J Crowe's is not about their product, but about the

information

on their website about the actual amount of iodine per drop in their product.

Their

information is INCORRECT. This has been discussed many times and that is the

only " controversy " with J Crowe's. Their products are fine.

Second, it is NOT the case that Lugol's was developed for a chemical reagent.

It

was developed by Lugol as a medicine. It was the VERY FIRST agent known to

cure a disease (by Western medicine). The disease it cured? Hypothyroidism and

hyperthyroidism and goiter.

best wishes,

--

moderator

> > > > > > >

> Trisha: There may be an optimal formulation of iodine to potassium

> iodide for health purposes, but insofar as Lugol's formulation is

> concerned it is a chemical formula only, developed for use in reagent

> research and simply has his name attached for convenience, so there

> are no " proprietary " issues -- it's just what the formula is called.

>

[Guest guest]

Do not go by what J Crowe's website claims is the content of their Lugol's. I

started

off with their brand of Lugol's and I had immediate and very good results, so

even

though their information and claims of quantity of iodine is incorrect, I do

tend to

think their product is fine.

However as Steph says they also have a lot of incorrect information about iodine

on their website.

So, I must say that I prefer to spend my money with sources that are not also

putting out false information about iodine into the world. How we spend our

money

really does affect the world, and I prefer to spend mine consciously. That is

part of

how I chose my ebay seller that I trust, is that he does not tell the lies about

iodine

as part of his information.

best wishes,

--,

moderator

> Well, my wife and I are now taking 3/4 tsp of the 2% Lugol's

> (supposedly 750 mg)from J Crowe and have been doing very well since

> August. Prior to that, it was (10) 12.5 mg Iodoral, but that got way

> too expensive and the real good detox didn't start happening until we

> got to about 250 mg of Lugol's.

>

> Wish you would elaborate more on the J Crowe Lugol's.

>

> By the way, congrats on becoming an ND! Way to go!

>

> Ken

>

> > > J Crows has many areas where their information isn't

> correct or causes an issue of concern for accuracy. I do not recommend

> J Crows as a valid source for iodine but it is up to the individual to

> decide what they are going to do. This applies to anything - know the

> source and understand what you are getting when you buy. Just because

> it is labeled Lugol's doesn't mean that it is the *real* stuff. > >

> Buist, ND HC > > >