T3 ONLY help to understand what the GP has done

[Guest guest]

Hi there

I was given Levo 4 weeks ago and was told to start at 50mg for 2 weeks then 75mg

for another 2 weeks 100 mg for 4 weeks then 125 mg

within 2 days i was knocked off my feet with the 50mg Pain,pain where i never

had pain, sweating nervouseness, i was told to stop taking it for a few days

then put on 25mg every 2 days still with awful reactions to it. i was then

told to stop taking it for 5 days and start on Elthroxine 25mg every 2 days

this too was awful pain nervousness sweating so again i went back to the GP

(different one in the prctice)he then gave me T3 only 2.5 mg (yes 2.5mg) daily

for a week and to up it to 2x daily . im still sweating and nevouse but still

have pain(normal)but nothing like on Levo but my skin feels so cold i even have

cold eyes !!!!

can someone please explain why He has done this and why all of a sudden i feel

so cold

i really want to take Armour and my GP said that if this dosent suit me then he

will watch me through taking Armour but will not prescribe it has he has never

heard of it.

Ragards

O

[Guest guest]

Hi, when you are on a low dose of T3 you start to surpress your own bodys

production (your FT4 starts to go lower) but the dose you are taking (2.5 what

the hell is the doc thinking ?) is not enough to make up for what your body is

now not producing. So actually you end up with LESS thyroid hormone when on a

very low dose of T3.

You should say this to your doctor, and ask him why he has done it? and if he

will not up your dosage to atleast 25mg (split 4 times is a good start) then it

may be time to find a new doctor.

Hope this helps

Steve

> i really want to take Armour and my GP said that if this dosent suit me then

he will watch me through taking Armour but will not prescribe it has he has

never heard of it.

> Ragards

> O

>

[Guest guest]

Refer your doctor to the British National Formulary website where he can look at

dosage instuctions for T3. you can sign up for free yourself and print off

the instructions...

They are start at 10 or 20 mcg split dosages daily and work to 60 mcg if

needed

XX

>

> Hi, when you are on a low dose of T3 you start to surpress your own bodys

production (your FT4 starts to go lower) but the dose you are taking (2.5 what

the hell is the doc thinking ?) is not enough to make up for what your body is

now not producing. So actually you end up with LESS thyroid hormone when on a

very low dose of T3.

>

> You should say this to your doctor, and ask him why he has done it? and if he

will not up your dosage to atleast 25mg (split 4 times is a good start) then it

may be time to find a new doctor.

>

> Hope this helps

> Steve

>

>

>

> > i really want to take Armour and my GP said that if this dosent suit me then

he will watch me through taking Armour but will not prescribe it has he has

never heard of it.

> > Ragards

> > O

> >

>

[Guest guest]

There are MANY

reasons and many medical conditions associated with thyroid disease that stop

thyroid hormone from getting into the cells, where it does its work. I mention

these over and over and over again - ad nauseum - people must be bored with the

same old stuff, but as each new member joins us, it has to be repeated.

The

main condition responsible for stopping thyroid hormone from working, is, quite

simply, a patients thyroxine dose is too low because the doctor or consultant

refuses to increase it, because the serum thyroid function test results appear

OK. Sometimes, the thyroxine dose is too high, yet patients still don't feel

well. They continue to suffer. Some reasons for this:

They may be suffering

with low adrenal reserve. The production of T4, its conversion to T3, and the

receptor uptake requires a normal amount of adrenal hormones, notably, of

course, cortisone. (Excess cortisone can shut production down, however.) This

is what happens if the adrenals are not responding properly, and provision of

cortisone usually switches it on again. But sometimes it

doesn’t. If the illness has been going on for a long time, the

enzyme seems to fail. This conversion failure (inexplicably denied by

many endocrinologists) means the thyroxine builds up, unconverted. So it

doesn’t work, and T4 toxicosis results. This makes the patient feel quite

unwell, toxic, often with palpitations and chest pain. If provision of adrenal

support doesn’t remedy the situation, the final solution is the use of

the active thyroid hormone, already converted, T3 - either synthetic or

natural.

Then, we have

systemic candidiasis. This is where candida albicans, a yeast, which causes

skin infections almost anywhere in the body, invades the lining of the lower

part of the small intestine and the large intestine. Here, the candida

sets up residence in the warmth and the dark, and demands to be fed.

Loving sugars and starches, candida can make you suffer terrible sweet

cravings. Candida can produce toxins which can cause very many symptoms

of exhaustion, headache, general illness, and which interfere with the uptake

of thyroid and adrenal treatment. Sometimes the levels - which we usually

test for - can be very high, and make successful treatment difficult to achieve

until adequately treated.

Then there is

receptor resistance which could be a culprit. Being hypothyroid for some

considerable time may mean the biochemical mechanisms which permit the binding

of T3 to the receptors, is downgraded - so the T3 won’t go in. With

slow build up of T3, with full adrenal support and adequate vitamins and

minerals, the receptors do come on line again. But this can be quite a

slow process, and care has to be taken to build the dose up gradually.

And then there are

Food allergies. The most common food allergy is allergy to gluten, the protein

fraction of wheat. The antibody generated by the body, by a process of

molecular mimicry, cross reacts with the thyroperoxidase enzyme, (which makes

thyroxine) and shuts it down. So allergy to bread can make you

hypothyroid. There may be other food allergies with this kind of effect, but

information on these is scanty. Certainly allergic response to certain

foods can affect adrenal function and imperil thyroid production and uptake.

Then we have hormone

imbalances. The whole of the endocrine system is linked; each part of it needs

the other parts to be operating normally to work properly. An example of

this we have seen already, with cortisone. But another example is the

operation of sex hormones. The imbalance that occurs at the menopause

with progesterone running down, and a relative dominance of oestrogen is a

further case in point – oestrogen dominance downgrades production,

transportation and uptake of thyroid hormones. This is why hypothyroidism

may first appear at the menopause; the symptoms ascribed to this alone, which

is then treated – often with extra oestrogen, making the whole thing

worse. Deficiency in progesterone most especially needs to be dealt with,

since it reverses oestrogen dominance, improves many menopausal symptoms like

sweats and mood swings, and reverses osteoporosis. Happily natural

progesterone cream is easily obtained: when used it has the added benefit of

helping to stabilise adrenal function.

Then, we must never

forget the possibility of mercury poisoning (through amalgam fillings) - low

levels of ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc

- all of which, if low, stop the thyroid hormone from being utilised by the

cells - these have to be treated.

As Dr Peatfield says

" When you have been quite unwell for a long time, all these problems have

to be dealt with; and since each may affect the other, it all has to be done

rather carefully.

Contrary

to cherished beliefs by much of the medical establishment, the correction of a

thyroid deficiency state has a number of complexities and variables, which make

the treatment usually quite specific for each person. The balancing of

these variables is as much up to you as to me – which is why a check of

morning, day and evening temperatures and pulse rates, together with symptoms,

good and bad, can be so helpful.

Many

of you have been ill for a long time, either because you have not been

diagnosed, or the treatment leaves you still quite unwell. Those of you

who have relatively mild hypothyroidism, and have been diagnosed relatively

quickly, may well respond to synthetic thyroxine, the standard treatment.

For

many of you, the outstanding problem is not that the diagnosis has not been

made – although, extraordinarily, this is disgracefully common –

but that is has, and the thyroxine treatment doesn’t work. The dose

has been altered up and down, and clinical improvement is variable and

doesn’t last, in spite of blood tests, which say you are perfectly all

right (and therefore you are actually depressed and need this fine

antidepressant).

The

above problems must be eliminated if thyroid hormone isn't working for you.

Luv

- Sheila

Hi there

I was given Levo 4 weeks ago and was told to start at 50mg for 2 weeks then

75mg for another 2 weeks 100 mg for 4 weeks then 125 mg

within 2 days i was knocked off my feet with the 50mg Pain,pain where i never

had pain, sweating nervouseness, i was told to stop taking it for a few days

then put on 25mg every 2 days still with awful reactions to it. i was then told

to stop taking it for 5 days and start on Elthroxine 25mg every 2 days this too

was awful pain nervousness sweating so again i went back to the GP (different

one in the prctice)he then gave me T3 only 2.5 mg (yes 2.5mg) daily for a week

and to up it to 2x daily . im still sweating and nevouse but still have

pain(normal)but nothing like on Levo but my skin feels so cold i even have cold

eyes !!!!

can someone please explain why He has done this and why all of a sudden i feel

so cold

i really want to take Armour and my GP said that if this dosent suit me then he

will watch me through taking Armour but will not prescribe it has he has never

heard of it.

Ragards

O

[Guest guest]

What if more than 60 is needed ?

Steve

--- In thyroid treatment , " Galathea "

> They are start at 10 or 20 mcg split dosages daily and work to 60 mcg if

needed

>

[Guest guest]

Some doctors really ARE good and know what they are doing, and

if more is needed, as it often is, they will prescribe it. Remember that the

BNF is only giving recommended doses - it is still left up to the discretion of

the doctor. the problem is persuading them to go down that road.

Luv - Sheila

What if more than 60 is needed ?

Steve

--- In thyroid treatment ,

" Galathea "

> They are start at 10 or 20 mcg split dosages daily and work to 60 mcg if

needed

>