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I tried T3 a couple years ago; bought the 's Syndrome book and handbook

for my doctor. It made no difference for me.

Phil

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> How many people here use T3 -- do you find it help, if so how?

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> thanks

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> Steve

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> > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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Hi,

I just got my new doc to switch me from T4 (which I've never thought was very

effective for me) to T3. Today was my second day. I've been in a real crash

last few weeks and don't feel anything yet,

will keep you posted.

Marcia

Philip L Comer wrote:

> From: Philip L Comer <philcome@...>

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> I tried T3 a couple years ago; bought the 's Syndrome book and handbook

for my doctor. It made no difference for me.

>

> Phil

>

> " , T. " wrote:

>

> > From: " , T. " <S@...>

> >

> > How many people here use T3 -- do you find it help, if so how?

> >

> > thanks

> >

> > Steve

> >

> > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

> > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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How do I get hold of T3 ? Fed up with fighting my gp over my T4 dose which is

not working

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Hi

Before thinking of T3 to replace your thyroxine, you should be aware

of the many conditions that stop thyroid hormone from working, whether

synthetic Thyroxine (T4), synthetic t4/T3 combination therapy, T3-only therapy

or natural thyroid extract that must be checked by way of a process of

elimination to find out just WHY the thyroxine is not working for you. Please

read the information below and see if any of these could be your problem.

The main condition responsible for stopping thyroid hormone from

working is, quite simply, a patient’s thyroxine dose is too low because

the doctor or consultant refuses to increase it, because the serum thyroid

function test results appear OK. Sometimes, the thyroxine dose is too high, yet

patients still don't feel well. They continue to suffer. Some reasons

for this:

They may be suffering with low adrenal reserve. The production

of T4, its conversion to T3, and the receptor uptake requires a normal amount

of adrenal hormones, notably, of course, cortisone. (Excess cortisone can shut

production down, however.) This is what happens if the adrenals are not

responding properly, and provision of cortisone usually switches it on

again. But sometimes it doesn’t. If the illness has been

going on for a long time, the enzyme seems to fail. This conversion

failure (inexplicably denied by many endocrinologists) means the thyroxine

builds up, unconverted. So it doesn’t work, and T4 toxicosis

results. This makes the patient feel quite unwell, toxic, often with

palpitations and chest pain. If provision of adrenal support doesn’t

remedy the situation, the final solution is the use of the active thyroid

hormone, already converted, T3 - either synthetic or natural.

Then, we have systemic candidiasis. This is where candida

albicans, yeast, which causes skin infections almost anywhere in the body,

invades the lining of the lower part of the small intestine and the large

intestine. Here, the candida sets up residence in the warmth and the

dark, and demands to be fed. Loving sugars and starches, candida can make

you suffer terrible sweet cravings. Candida can produce toxins which can

cause very many symptoms of exhaustion, headache, general illness, and which

interfere with the uptake of thyroid and adrenal treatment. Sometimes the

levels - which we usually test for - can be very high, and make successful

treatment difficult to achieve until adequately treated.

Then there is receptor resistance which could be a culprit. Being

hypothyroid for some considerable time may mean the biochemical mechanisms

which permit the binding of T3 to the receptors, is downgraded - so the T3

won’t go in. With slow build up of T3, with full adrenal support

and adequate vitamins and minerals, the receptors do come on line again.

But this can be quite a slow process, and care has to be taken to build the

dose up gradually.

And then there are Food allergies. The most common food allergy

is allergy to gluten, the protein fraction of wheat. The antibody generated by

the body, by a process of molecular mimicry, cross reacts with the

thyroperoxidase enzyme, (which makes thyroxine) and shuts it down. So

allergy to bread can make you hypothyroid. There may be other food allergies

with this kind of effect, but information on these is scanty. Certainly

allergic response to certain foods can affect adrenal function and imperil

thyroid production and uptake.

Then we have hormone imbalances. The whole of the endocrine

system is linked; each part of it needs the other parts to be operating

normally to work properly. An example of this we have seen already, with

cortisone. But another example is the operation of sex hormones.

The imbalance that occurs at the menopause with progesterone running down, and

a relative dominance of oestrogen is a further case in point – oestrogen

dominance downgrades production, transportation and uptake of thyroid hormones.

This is why hypothyroidism may first appear at the menopause; the symptoms

ascribed to this alone, which is then treated – often with extra

oestrogen, making the whole thing worse. Deficiency in progesterone most

especially needs to be dealt with, since it reverses oestrogen dominance,

improves many menopausal symptoms like sweats and mood swings, and reverses

osteoporosis. Happily natural progesterone cream is easily obtained: when

used it has the added benefit of helping to stabilise adrenal function.

Then, we must never forget the possibility of mercury poisoning

(through amalgam fillings) - low levels of iron, transferring saturation%,

ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc - all of

which, if low, stop the thyroid hormone from being utilised by the cells -

these have to be treated.

As Dr Peatfield says " When you have been quite unwell for a

long time, all these problems have to be dealt with; and since each may affect

the other, it all has to be done rather carefully.

Contrary to cherished beliefs by much of the medical

establishment, the correction of a thyroid deficiency state has a number of

complexities and variables, which make the treatment usually quite specific for

each person. The balancing of these variables is as much up to you as to

me – which is why a check of morning, day and evening temperatures and

pulse rates, together with symptoms, good and bad, can be so helpful.

Many of you have been ill for a long time, either because you

have not been diagnosed, or the treatment leaves you still quite unwell.

Those of you who have relatively mild hypothyroidism, and have been diagnosed

relatively quickly, may well respond to synthetic thyroxine, the standard

treatment

For many of you, the outstanding problem is not that the diagnosis

has not been made – although, extraordinarily, this is disgracefully

common – but that is has, and the thyroxine treatment doesn’t

work. The dose has been altered up and down, and clinical improvement is

variable and doesn’t last, in spite of blood tests, which say you are

perfectly all right (and therefore you are actually depressed and need this

fine antidepressant).

The above problems must be eliminated if thyroid hormone isn't

working for you.

Luv - Sheila

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