Re: Feeling dizzy on 25 mcg Armour Thyroid

[Guest guest]

Hi,

you will probably settle in a few days- the body does take time to get used

thyroid hormones it has been short of for probably some time. I don't know your

past history, which does make comment more difficult, but make sure you are OK

on the vits and minerals- see files as sufficient zinc ans selenium can make

quite a difference and both minerals are short an UK soils, there are other

important ones too, but you're best off reading the relevant file.

>

> Hi I started Armour Thyroid 3 days ago. So far am feeling warmer, and find my

energy levels are better,very subtle feeling of not being more tired in the

mornings, etc. But I do get slight feelings of vertigo or dizziness which comes

and goes throughout the day. I have split the 25mcg into two doses, one on

waking around 7.30am and one around 3pm. It definitely gives me a boost on

waking and around 4-6pm which is my normal tired out time when I tend to snack

or have coffee to give myself a boost of energy. Will this dizziness go after

my body has adjusted. I am very sensitive to most medications, hence the

starting very slowly. I am thinking of taking it before bed, but not sure if

this would be the right time. Many thanks for your help.

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry, but I am confused. You say you have split the 25mcgs into

two doses. You have the measurement wrong. Armour Thyroid tablets are 60mgs (or

1 grain old measurement) - so do I take it that you are taking 30mgs in a

morning and the other 30mgs in the afternoon. If so, you are probably taking

too much as a starting dose. We recommend taking 30mcg only for the first 7

days, and then increasing by another 30mgs on the 8th day and staying on that

dose for 3 weeks. Try cutting back by 30mgs for a day or so and see if your

hyper. symptoms disappear.

You do need to check that your levels of iron, transferrin

saturation%, ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and

zinc are well within the reference range because if any of these are low, no

amount of thyroid hormone can be properly utilised at the cellular level.

Please check out the attached document to see other causes that stop thyroid

hormone from working.

Hi I started Armour Thyroid 3 days ago. So far

am feeling warmer, and find my energy levels are better,very subtle feeling of

not being more tired in the mornings, etc. But I do get slight feelings of

vertigo or dizziness which comes and goes throughout the day. I have split the

25mcg into two doses, one on waking around 7.30am and one around 3pm.

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[Guest guest]

Thank you - for everyone's comments. I have been particularly 'dizzy' today, and

so will try to take the Armour tomorrow night as I have taken the two half doses

this am and this afternoon. Maybe it will be better if I take it before bed and

see how I feel.

I definitely have more energy, even a little buzz, and find myself wanting to go

out for walks or to the shops in the evening, this is not usual.

I am wondering if Armour affects caffeine intake, as I seem to get more hyped

from coffee than I am used to since takeing Armour. I am very sensitive to

caffeine as well, one cup is best but still manage to to have 2 or 3 a day.

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> Hiya,

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> I take my armour along with my thyroxine at night when I go to bed and have

had no problems with doing this -

[Guest guest]

Drinking coffee is one of the worst things you can do for your system...I don't

know why this wasn't addressed immediately. With adrenal fatigue and hypo,

coffee depletes all the good nutrients and hormones you put in your body. You

put them in and the coffee takes them out.

Coffee is also a psychostimulant which puts your system in a *make believe*

place and then lets you down hard. You crash. The dizziness does not seem to be

from the hormone, it's from the coffee, the caffeine and any sugars you are

putting in your system. You should stop all those immediately for best results.

Cheers,

JOT

> I am wondering if Armour affects caffeine intake, as I seem to get more hyped

from coffee than I am used to since takeing Armour. I am very sensitive to

caffeine as well, one cup is best but still manage to to have 2 or 3 a day.

[Guest guest]

Hi, this dizziness is not like anything I have felt when taking coffee 2 or 3

times a day, it feels more like vertigo. It feels as though I may fall over,

coffee tends to make me feel hyped up / energized but not dizzy. But was

curious to know if the Armour could accentuate or enhance that feeling of

hyped-ness into dizziness. I feel it is definitely the Armour. Today I haven't

taken any thyroid medication, and will take the Armour at bedtime tonight and

see how I feel tomorrow. I am trying to cut back on coffee. Down to 1-2 cups

at the moment. Will try and get down to 1 cup soon. Thanks again for all your

input and advice.

ine

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> Drinking coffee is one of the worst things you can do for your system...I

don't know why this wasn't addressed immediately.

[Guest guest]

Today I took no Armour medication so very little dizziness but do feel the

mental slowness and lack of energy from being off the Armour, isn't that

amazing. I never knew how low my energy was mentally and physically til I tried

the Armour recently.

Will take 1/4 grain Armour tonight and see how I feel tomorrow.

This website has been so helpful.

ine

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> Hi, this dizziness is not like anything I have felt when taking coffee 2 or 3

times a day, it feels more like vertigo. It feels as though I may fall over,

coffee tends to make me feel hyped up / energized but not dizzy.

[Guest guest]

What about your levels of iron, ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin

D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc. What about low adrenal reserve? What

about systemic candidiasis? What about mercury poisoning that might be caused

through amalgam fillings. If you have problem with any of these, the thyroid

hormone cannot get into the cells where it needs to do it's work and you will

suffer symptoms of toxicity until whatever needs to be treated, is treated.

There is nearly always some other associated condition going on when you are

getting toxic symptoms on thyroid hormone. You must eliminate these before

being able to move forward ine.

Luv - Sheila

Today I took no Armour medication so very

little dizziness but do feel the mental slowness and lack of energy from being

off the Armour, isn't that amazing. I never knew how low my energy was mentally

and physically til I tried the Armour recently.

Will take 1/4 grain Armour tonight and see how I feel tomorrow.

This website has been so helpful.

ine

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[Guest guest]

How much coffee did you have today? Lack of caffeine - if you're addicted - can

cause the same mental slowness.

Jot is right, coffee is bad. Ruth Whalen wrote a good book on caffeine and

mental illness (i'm not suggesting it's causing you mental illness, though),

it's called: " Welcome to the Dance " .

Chris

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> Today I took no Armour medication so very little dizziness but do feel the

mental slowness and lack of energy from being off the Armour, isn't that

amazing. I never knew how low my energy was mentally and physically til I tried

the Armour recently.

[Guest guest]

iF YOU TAKE TOO MUCH THYROID HORMONE AND YOUR BODY IS UNABLE TO

USE IT, YOU WILL GET THE SYMPTOMS OF HYPERTHYROIDISM, ONE OF THEM IS DIZZINESS.

Ooops! Sorry for shouting - I didn't mean to, honestly.

Luv - Sheila

Hi, this dizziness is not like anything I have

felt when taking coffee 2 or 3 times a day, it feels more like vertigo. It

feels as though I may fall over, coffee tends to make me feel hyped up /

energized but not dizzy. But was curious to know if the Armour could accentuate

or enhance that feeling of hyped-ness into dizziness. I feel it is definitely

the Armour. Today I haven't taken any thyroid medication, and will take the Armour

at bedtime tonight and see how I feel tomorrow. I am trying to cut back on

coffee. Down to 1-2 cups at the moment. Will try and get down to 1 cup soon.

Thanks again for all your input and advice.

ine

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila,

As I am only on a starting dose of 1/4 grain (18-25 mcg) of Armour, i can't be

overdosing with too much thyroid surely, but are you emphasising that maybe my

body can't use it and this will cause dizziness.

Well I took the Armour before bed last night, my sleep was a lot lighter, ie

woke up easily but went back to sleep easily too. Felt a lot warmer on waking

which was good. Still felt slow this morning, not as buzzy as when I took the

Armour on waking. But so far no symptoms of dizziness but its still early in

the day.

I take Vit B12 sublingually, Vit B complex sometimes, Vitc 500- 1000 mcg daily,

Zinc daily, Magnesium every 1-2 days when I feel I need it. I eat good fats and

protein, try to cut back on carbs not always successfully. The coffee is my

real addiction, but its what helps me get up and going and through the energy

slumps in the day. So that is the real test for me trying to cut caffeine back

to 1 or 2 a day. But so far getting there. I also love chocolate, this is

probably not helping with the sugar surges and caffeine. But its a learning

curve and I don't think I will ever be perfect at getting it right, but

improving as I go along.

ine

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> iF YOU TAKE TOO MUCH THYROID HORMONE AND YOUR BODY IS UNABLE TO USE IT, YOU

> WILL GET THE SYMPTOMS OF HYPERTHYROIDISM, ONE OF THEM IS DIZZINESS.

>

> Ooops! Sorry for shouting - I didn't mean to, honestly.

>

> Luv - Sheila

[Guest guest]

Yes, if your body is not in a state to be able to absorb thyroid

hormone, you have to find the reason why and the information I sent you

previously should cover all possible causes. Get these tested and supplemented

if needed and then try natural thyroid extract again - but starting still at

the low dose to be safe.

Increase your vitamin C to 2000mgs daily. Coffee is a curse, try

to wean yourself off it

Luv - Sheila

As I am only on a starting dose of 1/4 grain (18-25 mcg) of Armour, i can't be

overdosing with too much thyroid surely, but are you emphasising that maybe my

body can't use it and this will cause dizziness.

Well I took the Armour before bed last night, my sleep was a lot lighter, ie

woke up easily but went back to sleep easily too. Felt a lot warmer on waking

which was good. Still felt slow this morning, not as buzzy as when I took the

Armour on waking. But so far no symptoms of dizziness but its still early in

the day.

I take Vit B12 sublingually, Vit B complex sometimes, Vitc 500- 1000 mcg daily,

Zinc daily, Magnesium every 1-2 days when I feel I need it. I eat good fats and

protein, try to cut back on carbs not always successfully. The coffee is my

real addiction, but its what helps me get up and going and through the energy

slumps in the day. So that is the real test for me trying to cut caffeine back

to 1 or 2 a day. But so far getting there. I also love chocolate, this is

probably not helping with the sugar surges and caffeine. But its a learning

curve and I don't think I will ever be perfect at getting it right, but

improving as I go along.

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Its 4pm and no dizziness so far today. Coffee perks me up but I feel tired

again later in the day. My partner has also started 1/4 grain Armour at night.

He is taller and weighs more than me, so hasn't felt much of a change on low

dosage, I am sure our size affects dosage.

How long before we can increase the dosage, is 1-2 weeks enough? I appreciate

everyone's input.

Has anyone else split their dosage into before bed and then taking another dose

during the day.

I am going to try and get hold of that book on Caffeine.

I value all the advice on this site.

Thanks again.

ine

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> Yes, if your body is not in a state to be able to absorb thyroid hormone,

> you have to find the reason why and the information I sent you previously

> should cover all possible causes.

[Guest guest]

ine, you must go to the FILES section of this forum and read

the information we have provided there for just such questions. There is a host

of material there that will help you. Go to thyroid treatment

and on the Home Page, in the Menu, click on FILES. On the page that opens

there, click on 'All Natural Thyroid Extract'. On that page, scroll down to

'How to Use Natural Thyroid Extract' and all your questions will be answered

there.

I think just about any questions you will want to be asking, you

will find the answer somewhere there, so please play around with the FILES SECTION

and check out the different types of information we have covered.

Luv - Sheila

Its 4pm and no dizziness so far today. Coffee perks me up but I feel tired

again later in the day. My partner has also started 1/4 grain Armour at night.

He is taller and weighs more than me, so hasn't felt much of a change on low

dosage, I am sure our size affects dosage.

How long before we can increase the dosage, is 1-2 weeks enough? I appreciate

everyone's input.

Has anyone else split their dosage into before bed and then taking another dose

during the day.

I am going to try and get hold of that book on Caffeine.

[Guest guest]

I am reading all the info in the Files and daily questions and responses on the

website and learning so much.

I only realised last night that the 1/4 grain label on my Armour pillbox

container is 15mcg Armour and not 18-25 mcg as I wrote before. So I need to up

the dose. So far no side effects of dizziness when taking it at night.

But have been reading up on Caffeine/Cortisol/Insulin/Thyroid connection. I

have downloaded this book called Decaf Diet on Kindle for PC users. It has

taught me so much about Cortisol and caffeine and how this affects insulin,

thyroid and weight gain. I highly recommend reading it.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Decaf-Diet-Caffeine-Making-ebook/dp/B003ZSHOSK/ref=sr_1_\

1?s=books & ie=UTF8 & qid=1317287247 & sr=1-1

I think the dizziness is connected to my coffee use mostly, as the symptoms of

withdrawal throughout the day describe my experience of dizziness, hunger,

tiredness, caffeine-withdrawal craving for sugar/carbs.

He also describes how to come off caffeine or restrict its effect.

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> ine, you must go to the FILES section of this forum and read the

> information we have provided there for just such questions. There is a host

> of material there that will help you.

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to add that I don't own an Amazon kindle but you can download

Kindle for PC free to your computer from amazon, and read books bought on amazon

for kindle on your computer. Sometimes this is the cheapest way of reading

books on health when they are available.

Hope this helps, as I only found out about this recently.