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After a couple of times of using cream from progesterone.co.uk, I got the

feeling it was the incorrect product and tried ordering from

http://www.wellsprings-health.com/ instead. While I haven't noticed much of an

effect, my mother has had a positive result with it.

Though I hadn't seen that " original " Serenity site before, and that has caught

me off guard a little. Of course it is important to avoid (as much as sensibly

possible) intakes of petrochemicals and derivatives which could impede

beneficial hormones being used by the body. I think the decision should weigh

both on ingredients and whether you actually are feeling an improvement while

using the cream.

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Hi,

Health Science is the place to get Serenity cream.

Phone number for ordering is 02070963939. They also do

organic Serenity.

If you look in the files you can see an email I received

from Health Science telling the truth about Wellsprings.

B

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>I have used Wellspring for about 6 months now and hot flushes

> went but I am still left with some anxiety.

Perhaps you had other issues too? I mean other deficiencies?

I have seen pro-gest cream on amazon, manufactured in USA

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Emerita-Pro-Gest-Single-Packets-Paraben/dp/B000LVGTOO/re\

f=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8 & qid=1316634879 & sr=8-2 (other sizes of this product are

available)

chris

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Hi

yes I have an under active thyroid and adrenal problems. And yes the anxiety

could be caused by something else though from past experience from when I took

HRT tablets under GP the anxiety totally went but came back when stopped HRT

tablets so Dr. P suggested Wellspring Serenity. But wanted to try this other

serenity to see how that worked as some people seem to be better on this and

some on the other. I checked out the Amazon link and cannot say I have heard of

that or the company. Did some research and the ingredients contain substances I

am not too sure about.

My main concern is the content of the Wellspring serenity and the comments made

by the original company. These are both products that seem to work well for

people some preferring one to the other but wonder how much scaremongering is

made by the original company or whether their accusations are correct.

Thanks

>

> >I have used Wellspring for about 6 months now and hot flushes

> > went but I am still left with some anxiety.

>

> Perhaps you had other issues too? I mean other deficiencies?

>

>

> I have seen pro-gest cream on amazon, manufactured in USA

>

>

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Emerita-Pro-Gest-Single-Packets-Paraben/dp/B000LVGTOO/re\

f=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8 & qid=1316634879 & sr=8-2 (other sizes of this product are

available)

>

>

> chris

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Yes Health Science is the site I have ordered from now so I could compare

products before deciding which worked the best. I only read their comments about

Wellspring after I had ordered which then put me into the dilemma. I hope I get

on with Health Span Serenity cream, no reason why not, and will order from them

in future, though their customer service I have to admit has been apalling for

my first order, and had hard time even contacting anyone to ask simple questions

such as delivery etc, hopefully this improves.

But what confused me is why Dr. Peatfield recomends the Wellspring Serenity and

not the health science one if the Wellspring contains harmful products, I

thought he was all for natural ingredients and keeping away from the bad ones.

This is why I have been confused over which one should be taken. But going by

what you say, what I have read I will keep away from Wellspring. I have to say

they have not replied to my email yet which I sent yesterday. Normally when I

email them (for advice) they respond within a few hours.

Thank you all for comments, appreciated.

>

> Hi,

>

> Health Science is the place to get Serenity cream.

> Phone number for ordering is 02070963939. They also do

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I am also interested in this topic. I have tried both Wellsprings and

" original " and neither of them have relieved my hot flushes.

I agree with Di's comments about customer service. When I first ordered some

" original " Serenity they sent me a reminder email to reorder before my first

order had arrived. However, when I emailed to complain about this they did

apologise, so they do responde to emails.

What do other people think about the effectiveness of the creams?

Miriam

> I have searched previous posts here and there does seem to be a little

confusion over whether to use the Wellspring or the " original " serenity cream. I

have used Wellspring for about 6 months now and hot flushes went but I am still

left with some anxiety. A friend suggested I tried the " original " serenity. I am

still waiting for it to be delivered as it has not been despatched yet a week

after ordering.

> I have to say my loyalties lay with Wellspring, they have always been so

helpful over the phone, delivery has be super quick whereas so far the original

company doesnt respond to emails, product still not despatched even though a

week since I ordered.

> The original company sells from here: http://www.progesterone.org.uk/

> Wellspring from here: http://www.progesterone.co.uk/

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Do you mean this Health Science?

http://www.health-science.com/serenity_for_women_info.html

How do we know Health Science is telling the truth about Wellsprings and not

just slagging off the competition?

Miriam

> Health Science is the place to get Serenity cream.

> Phone number for ordering is 02070963939. They also do

> organic Serenity.

>

> If you look in the files you can see an email I received

> from Health Science telling the truth about Wellsprings.

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My twopenneth!

As described on a thread several months ago I got one pot of serenity from the

channel isles, worked well, second pot looked different (flower colour on label)

and did not work at all, got a pot from the source down south (?cornwall?) did

not work, got a blue tube from progesterone.com in USA, did not work, but then

changed to emerita pro-gest which I have been using 3+ months and it's great. I

get it from

http://www.vitasunn.co.uk/

The staff are very helpful too which suits me.

Good luck in your quest to find which one is best for you

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Probably

Dr Peatfield is not aware of any controversy between these two firms as many

people are not.

Luv

- Sheila

But what confused me is why Dr. Peatfield recomends the Wellspring Serenity and

not the health science one if the Wellspring contains harmful products, I

thought he was all for natural ingredients and keeping away from the bad ones.

This is why I have been confused over which one should be taken. But going by

what you say, what I have read I will keep away from Wellspring. I have to say

they have not replied to my email yet which I sent yesterday. Normally when I

email them (for advice) they respond within a few hours.

,___

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Sue, I had a notification from that a new document had been posted

in our FILES section about natural progesterone cream, but when I

clicked on the link I was told 'no document found. If you want to send

it to me [sheila@...] as an attachment, I will upload it for you.

Luv - Sheila

>

> ,

> Yes Health Science is the site I have ordered from now so I could

compare products before deciding which worked the best. I only read

their comments about Wellspring after I had ordered which then put me

into the dilemma. I hope I get on with Health Span Serenity cream, no

reason why not, and will order from them in future, though their

customer service I have to admit has been apalling for my first order,

and had hard time even contacting anyone to ask simple questions such as

delivery etc, hopefully this improves.

>

> But what confused me is why Dr. Peatfield recomends the Wellspring

Serenity and not the health science one if the Wellspring contains

harmful products, I thought he was all for natural ingredients and

keeping away from the bad ones. This is why I have been confused over

which one should be taken. But going by what you say, what I have read I

will keep away from Wellspring. I have to say they have not replied to

my email yet which I sent yesterday. Normally when I email them (for

advice) they respond within a few hours.

>

> Thank you all for comments, appreciated.

>

>

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > Health Science is the place to get Serenity cream.

> > Phone number for ordering is 02070963939. They also do

>

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Hi,

I understand that not many will know about the controversy, but what concerns me

is content of medication. I would like it to be as natural as possible and

wonder just how harmful Wellspring's added chemicals are. Is the original

company correct in what they say in which case should we stay away from

Wellspring altogether even if their cream works better than another. What damage

are those chemicals doing us..... umm ... why can't things just be

straightforward. I've half a mind not to take any serenity at all rather than

cause myself even more problems taking the wrong one.

>

> Probably Dr Peatfield is not aware of any controversy between these two

> firms as many people are not.

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

> But what confused me is why Dr. Peatfield recomends the Wellspring Serenity

> and not the health science one if the Wellspring contains harmful products,

> I thought he was all for natural ingredients and keeping away from the bad

> ones. This is why I have been confused over which one should be taken. But

> going by what you say, what I have read I will keep away from Wellspring. I

> have to say they have not replied to my email yet which I sent yesterday.

> Normally when I email them (for advice) they respond within a few hours.

>

>

>

>

> ,___

>

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Sheila, my error! lol ... I meant to upload it to the Doc's comments folder but

got confused and think it ended up in a couple wrong places before I deleted and

got it into the right one. At least I think I did ... !!

>

>

> Sue, I had a notification from that a new document had been posted

> in our FILES section about natural progesterone cream, but when I

> clicked on the link I was told 'no document found. If you want to send

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Hi. Sorry for dealy as only just noticed your post.

I used to buy from Wellspring years ago then there was a huge debacle about the

ingredients making the progesterone no bioavailable and petrochemicals

used....letters of explanation were sent by both Wellspring and the US company

who said theirs was pure and worked and the other did'nt. Wellspring, needless

to say desputed their claim and left it up to customers to decide.

At the time getting some from the US worked out pretty expensive and it was

tempting to use the other cheaper one.

I stopped using it altogether and only just started up again recently and got it

from www.serenity.org.uk after reading the ingredients and remembering the

kerfuffle previously. I was having massive flushes all day and night long but

after using serenity for only a short time from this source, the flushes

diminished to just slight and less often.

I know it works as I left off for a few days as you are supposed to and they

came back with avengeance and, now using again, are a little better again. As

some people are saying Wellspring's product works that cant possibly be disputed

I guess but i'd rather be cautious and use the one with less dubious ingredients

espcially now it's comparative pricewise. Hope this helps.

J

>

>

> I have searched previous posts here and there does seem to be a little

> confusion over whether to use the Wellspring or the " original " serenity

> cream.

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Where did you place the document now Sue so I can go and check.

Luv - Sheila

Sheila, my error! lol ... I meant to upload it to the Doc's comments folder

but got confused and think it ended up in a couple wrong places before I

deleted and got it into the right one. At least I think I did ... !!

>

>

> Sue, I had a notification from that a new document had been posted

> in our FILES section about natural progesterone cream, but when I

> clicked on the link I was told 'no document found. If you want to send

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Hi Sheila,

in the folder called What Doctors have said.

Thanks

> >

> >

> > Sue, I had a notification from that a new document had been posted

> > in our FILES section about natural progesterone cream, but when I

> > clicked on the link I was told 'no document found. If you want to send

>

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Miriam,

I don't know - that is why I posted here. But reading all that has been posted

about them I tend to side with Health Science for now re the history of both

companies. But putting aside the controversy between the two companies, looking

at the ingredients from both, the " original " company seem to have more natural

ingredients than Wellspring. My body has in the past had reactions to the

aluminium in deodorants, nickel in jewellery and other products have caused me

problems too, so I am very keen to keep as natural as possible with whatever I

put in or on my body. I have ordered from health science now from here

http://www.progesterone.org.uk NOT to be mistaken for

http://www.progesterone.co.uk/ which is wellspring. I ordered the Serenity Green

from health science.

>

> Do you mean this Health Science?

>

> http://www.health-science.com/serenity_for_women_info.html

>

> How do we know Health Science is telling the truth about Wellsprings and not

just slagging off the competition?

>

>

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HI ,Dr P recommended the prog cream from higher nature, i believe they are in surrey . just Google higher nature- i use the one sold by a girl who`s details are in the files. Angel. it is the cheapest i could find, but the quality seems OK.

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Hi,

In the literature I am given with my diaries by Dr. P. it says the Wellspring

place to get Serenity - so I am even more confused now. I have not been

recomended to get it from any other source by him, just the Wellspring.

Is this the company you are talking about

http://www.highernature.co.uk/Default.aspx

I have to send back a diary to Dr. P and I will ask him whch is the best cream

to get. In the Files section here under the Progesterone ones there is

correspondence from Wellsprings saying they have equal right in using the same

forumula as the original company as it is the manufacturer that has the rights

and not Health Science, but I suppose it all depends whether they are still

using the original formula or not.

>

> HI ,Dr P recommended the prog cream from higher nature, i believe they are in

surrey .

>

> just Google higher nature-   i use the one sold by a girl who`s details are in

the files.  Angel. it is the cheapest i could find, but the quality seems OK.

>

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I have just Googled Higher Nature but have found no Progesterone Cream...Val

>

> HI ,Dr P recommended the prog cream from higher nature, i believe they are in

surrey .

>

> just Google higher nature-   i use the one sold by a girl who`s details are in

the files.  Angel. it is the cheapest i could find, but the quality seems OK.

>

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