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Are you taking selenium? That caused my hair to fall out a lot, even though

I was taking far below the " safe " dose. I may have been getting some from

my food.

Thanks,

Doris

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> I have heard lack of zinc could be a cause, as well as thryroid

> dysfunction. I have been on Thryroid supplements for years...

>

> So I was hoping someone out their has some good " supplement "

> recommendations which could help my hair from falling out.

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Hi is

I started losing my hair when I first became ill. Since it took some

time for me to get a diagnosis (2 years, but hey what's new!!) my GP

at the time prescribed a general strong Vitamin B complex, which

stopped the hair loss. If I now stop the Vit B (been ill quite some

years now) then the hair loss starts to become a lot more apparent

again.

Hope this helps.

Dave

> I have been experiencing extreme hair loss again.

>

> Recently I started a Heavey Metal Chelation Process - but the hair

> loss has been happening before I started that process.

>

> I have heard lack of zinc could be a cause, as well as thryroid

> dysfunction. I have been on Thryroid supplements for years...

>

> So I was hoping someone out their has some good " supplement "

> recommendations which could help my hair from falling out.

>

> I no longer have hair on my legs or underarms - and I am too young

to

> have that happen. So it must be some protein or something that I am

> missing.

>

> Any clues?

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Dave,

If there's biotin in your B vitamins, that may be what's stopping the

hair loss. It is reported to do that.

Rich

> > I have been experiencing extreme hair loss again.

> >

> > Recently I started a Heavey Metal Chelation Process - but the

hair

> > loss has been happening before I started that process.

> >

> > I have heard lack of zinc could be a cause, as well as thryroid

> > dysfunction. I have been on Thryroid supplements for years...

> >

> > So I was hoping someone out their has some good " supplement "

> > recommendations which could help my hair from falling out.

> >

> > I no longer have hair on my legs or underarms - and I am too

young

> to

> > have that happen. So it must be some protein or something that I

am

> > missing.

> >

> > Any clues?

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> I have been experiencing extreme hair loss again.

>

>> Any clues?

Me too is, except I still have hair on my body. My factors involve

hysterectomy, thyroid, chemical exposure ( a drug) and the heavy metals. My

selenium is really surpressed, perhaps from Mercury, so I have to actually

supplement it. Hashimotos thyroid-just changed to Armour. Hormones-do

natural HRT through compound pharmacy. I do the B's and all that. Through

it all, the hair on my head started falling out by the fistfull about 2

years after hysto. However , I did a trial period with an HGH lotion

earlier this year and it all STOPPED falling out! I eventually had to stop

using the HGH and within days of stopping, my head hair started falling out

by the fistfulls again.

Kathy

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<PRE>please.........don't keep us CFS baldies in suspense..what was the

product.you were using??.every woman i know with this illness is losing their

hair including myself...i would love to try a product that has worked for

others.and my friends would too.thanks!!!!!!!!!!Barbara

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> I know that I have only about 1/3 the hair thickness I had prior to my

> Arrest, Meds and Shock Therapy in the last year....

Couple of months ago my daughter exclaimed, " Dad, you dont have hair

on your legs or arms anymore! How come? " I just said I must be

getting old. I never connected it with the meds. I'm taking 13 pills a

day now, so I guess I'm lucky that its only my hair thats falling off.

LOL.)

Stu953

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I have also had the problem with hair loss and dry, brittle, thinning hair.

My nails have also been a mess. After taking high quality vitamins for hair and

nails that contain silica and biotin (extra doses) there was some

improvement. I have also started taking amino acid gelcaps.. 3 a day. I am

finally seeing

some improvement. I am also pulling my hair back into a scrunchee and not

shampooing too often any more and which means using my " Ionic " hair dryer less.

I was also told that when I shampoo I should really scrub my scalp vigorously

to unclog the pores there and stimulate growth. Hope this helps.

Carol IN LI, NY

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Beth,

It's important to make sure you're getting enough selenium, too.

200 micrograms per day is a good dosage for many people. Too much

selenium can cause this problem, too, so it's important not to

overdo it.

Many PWCs have mercury toxicity. Selenium forms a complex with

mercury,taking it out of use for other purposes. I think that may

be why many PWCs seem to be low in selenium.

Selenium is important for the glutathione peroxidase enzymes, and

also for the enzymes that convert the thyroid hormone T4 to T3.

Low thyroid is another thing that can cause the hair to fall out, so

these things might be related.

Rich

> Is hair loss a common symptom with CFIDS? If so, what happens to

the body

> to cause this? What have you all done to reverse this process?

>

> Beth

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Two things helped me with hair loss and brittle ridged messy nails

1) Iron - I had low ferretin levels - it may be worth getting tested

2) Betaine HCL - I realised that the low Iron was caused by a lack of stomach

acid. I now take betaine supplement which has helped my nails a lot

Oh also MSM 1000mgs helped a bit but not as much as the two above

Re: Re: hair loss

I have also had the problem with hair loss and dry, brittle, thinning hair.

My nails have also been a mess. After taking high quality vitamins for hair

and

nails that contain silica and biotin (extra doses) there was some

improvement. I have also started taking amino acid gelcaps.. 3 a day. I am

finally seeing

some improvement. I am also pulling my hair back into a scrunchee and not

shampooing too often any more and which means using my " Ionic " hair dryer

less.

I was also told that when I shampoo I should really scrub my scalp vigorously

to unclog the pores there and stimulate growth. Hope this helps.

Carol IN LI, NY

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A lot of PWC's have thyroid hormone problems, which can cause hair loss.

lindaj@...

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> Is hair loss a common symptom with CFIDS? If so, what happens to the body

> to cause this? What have you all done to reverse this process?

>

> Beth

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

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I think there are several possible causes for hair falling out. My hair started

falling out and it was from selenium. I was not taking very much, only 150mcg,

but when I stopped the selenium my hair stopped falling out.

Thanks,

Doris

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Hi.

I have had that problem too.

My hair in my my legs is often patchy, and when I was bed-bound in Hospital I

clearly remember the nurses

looking at me oddly when the pulled the bed-sheets off to find 'hair' on the

matress.

I guess it must be hormonal?

Hmm.

Ben.

Re: hair loss

I think there are several possible causes for hair falling out. My hair

started falling out and it was from selenium. I was not taking very much, only

150mcg, but when I stopped the selenium my hair stopped falling out.

Thanks,

Doris

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I have had hair loss. In my case it was metal from amalgams. My hair is now

coming back.

Phil

Re: hair loss

I think zinc & more protein reversed this in me

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I'm certainly no expert, and haven't experienced that myself, but hair loss can

be a

symptom of stress and/or malnourishment. Make sure that what you're able to get

down

does have enough vitamins to sustain your body. I can't imagine that having a

brand new

baby at home would be stressful, would it? (totally being sarcastic). Give

yourself a little

credit Paige, and take life one day at a time. ;)

Good luck

>

> Hi Everyone

>

> It has been a while since I posted. I now have a healthy three and

> a half month old little girl occuping most of my time. I had my

> myotomy 10/03 and had great success until the last few months of my

> pregnancy. Now it has progreesed more and although I have not left

> running to the bathroom yet, swallowing is progressivly getting

> worse.

>

> Before my surgery, I had begun to loose handfuls and handfuls of

> hair at a time. I asked several doctors and they all thought I was

> nuts. But after my surgery, the hair loss stopped. Now it is

> coming back again. My question is, has anyone else noticed hair

> loss as a problem? I have also noticed my eating habbits are headed

> back to where they were before, I am always hungry and can never

> seem to get full. And therefore the weight gain is coming back. I

> wish it would go the other way!! Anyway, just wondering if this is

> baby related or pregnancy related or not related at all.

>

> Thanks

> Paige

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HI

before my daughter had her myotomy she lost most of

her hair - and it was put down to malnutrition.

She is 24 weeks pregnant at the moment and I am just

praying that everything will be ok. she has been fine

so far.

She had her myotomy July 03.

--- Steve & Weingartz <skweingartz@...>

wrote:

>

> I'm certainly no expert, and haven't experienced

> that myself, but hair loss can be a

> symptom of stress and/or malnourishment. Make sure

> that what you're able to get down

> does have enough vitamins to sustain your body. I

> can't imagine that having a brand new

> baby at home would be stressful, would it? (totally

> being sarcastic). Give yourself a little

> credit Paige, and take life one day at a time. ;)

> Good luck

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi Everyone

> >

> > It has been a while since I posted. I now have a

> healthy three and

> > a half month old little girl occuping most of my

> time. I had my

> > myotomy 10/03 and had great success until the last

> few months of my

> > pregnancy. Now it has progreesed more and

> although I have not left

> > running to the bathroom yet, swallowing is

> progressivly getting

> > worse.

> >

> > Before my surgery, I had begun to loose handfuls

> and handfuls of

> > hair at a time. I asked several doctors and they

> all thought I was

> > nuts. But after my surgery, the hair loss

> stopped. Now it is

> > coming back again. My question is, has anyone

> else noticed hair

> > loss as a problem? I have also noticed my eating

> habbits are headed

> > back to where they were before, I am always hungry

> and can never

> > seem to get full. And therefore the weight gain

> is coming back. I

> > wish it would go the other way!! Anyway, just

> wondering if this is

> > baby related or pregnancy related or not related

> at all.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Paige

>

>

>

>

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Hi Paige,

Good to hear form you again! There are two causes of hairloss that come to

mind - malnutrition and copper toxicity.

You need to see that your diet contains lots of red meat, zinc, Vit B12 and

6.

Some kiddies vitamins have copper in them, but not a lot. Can you take any

vitamin syrup or supplements - they do make a difference !

Unfortunately the sort of food most of us can eat is fattening and not

always all that nutritious. I have to cook mine to destruction before I can

even make soup of it.

Enjoy your little one - and remember all those disturbed night and tiredness

do make for an underlying stress.

Hugs

Joan

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>

>

> Hi Everyone

>

> It has been a while since I posted. I now have a healthy three and

> a half month old little girl occuping most of my time. I had my

> myotomy 10/03 and had great success until the last few months of my

> pregnancy. Now it has progreesed more and although I have not left

> running to the bathroom yet, swallowing is progressivly getting

> worse.

>

> Before my surgery, I had begun to loose handfuls and handfuls of

> hair at a time. I asked several doctors and they all thought I was

> nuts. But after my surgery, the hair loss stopped. Now it is

> coming back again. My question is, has anyone else noticed hair

> loss as a problem? I have also noticed my eating habbits are headed

> back to where they were before, I am always hungry and can never

> seem to get full. And therefore the weight gain is coming back. I

> wish it would go the other way!! Anyway, just wondering if this is

> baby related or pregnancy related or not related at all.

>

> Thanks

> Paige

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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There have been quite a few references about hair loss lately. In some cases it may be Alopecia Areata. There are many other types too, but this is the most common. My son in his 40's developed Alopecia a few years ago. He had a beautiful head of hair, and all of a sudden within two months he was completely bald. It was frightening! Our Doctor sent him to a Dermitologist who diagnosed him with Alopecia Areata... She prescribed Prednizone which I know is a very strong steroid, and can only be taken for a short period of time. She did not guarantee it would work, but in fact it did and his hair came back in full. That is not to say it won't happen again, but for now he is fine. She told him it was not nerves and the cause of it is unknown. It is apparently part of the autoimmune system... Who knows, another mysterious disease which no one has real answers for. There is tons of information on the internet though, and lots of suggestions as to solving the problem.

I do think it is worthwhile going to a Dermitologist for diagnosis. As far as I know it was a simple blood test. Hope this information is helpful to some.

All the best to you all, and here's wishing you good health in 2005.

, Vancouver, B.C. Canada

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I wonder how many of us have hair loss due to lack of nutrition in our body

because we don't absorb proper nutrients that keep it healthy. My sister-in-law

had thick hair also and when she finally got sick with muscular dystrophy her

hair fell out and was very thin. She was not eating properly and was actually

malnourished as a young adult. When I started on Recuperation (adding in

magnesium, calcium, potassium and sodium), my hair is now thicker, grows faster

and I get it cut sooner, and I no longer have to use conditioner. And yes, I

color my hair! Dr. Balch in Prescription for Nutritional Healing says we need

higher levels of supplements than " normal " people because we don't absorb them

as well.

Just a thought.

in La Selva Beach CA

Re: Hair Breaking ... or Hair Loss?

Carole, the one and only time I ever went to a hair salon was when I

was a " sweet young thing " and had my half-ton of hair. The stylist

was so perturbed because she ran out of hair rollers and had to

borrow the extras of a fellow stylist to use on me. It was the

actual quantity of individual hairs coming out of my head that she

was ill-equipped to deal with. Today? The same stylist could do two

of me...

Good luck.

> >> >

> >> > If your hairloss is directly due to meds - you

> >> could always reduce

> >> your

> >> > dosage or look into how your meds are interacting

> >> with hairloss

> >> hormones " ie

> >> > DHT. I know a guy who makes haiross products for

> >> men and women.

> >> >

> >> > Regards

> >> > CS

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> >> removed]

> >> >

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> This list is intended for patients to share personal

> >> experiences with each other, not to give medical

> >> advice. If you are interested in any treatment

> >> discussed here, please consult your doctor.

> >>

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> Kathy,

> In the past 10 years I've probably lost 50% of the

> hair on the top of my head. Good thing I had a lot to

> start out with or I'd be almost bald on top. My hair

> loss started probably 10 years before I was diagnosed

> so I can't attribute it to the spiro. In fact I read

> somewhere that spiro is sometimes given to combat

> female hair loss. I wonder if it could be due to an

> excess of aldosterone or other horomone?

>

> a

>

>

>

Thank you for replying a. I heard Spiro is also used to combat

female hair loss as well, but I haven't a clue why I am losing more

than usual. I'm thinking it could be hormones because I haven't felt

like myself lately. I have thick hair to begin with, so I'm not too

concerned about it. It's not an alarming amount of hair loss, but it

is more than I am used to. I will say though, I think the Spiro is

making it grow faster - I guess this is a good thing.

Kathy

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In a message dated 11/7/06 6:56:41 PM, kathy11961@... writes:

> Kathy,

> In the past 10 years I've probably lost 50% of the

> hair on the top of my head. Good thing I had a lot to

> start out with or I'd be almost bald on top. My hair

> loss started probably 10 years before I was diagnosed

> so I can't attribute it to the spiro. In fact I read

> somewhere that spiro is sometimes given to combat

> female hair loss. I wonder if it could be due to an

> excess of aldosterone or other hormone?

>

> a

Another good reason and question to add to our data base if we can ever get it going.

May your pressure be low!

Clarence E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D.

Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure

and the Physiology and History of Survival During

Hard Times and Heart Disease today.

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I didn't notice a hair loss, but this could have happened gradually. Never had

a problem with balding.

Recently noticed body hair on arms and legs is getting longer, and spouting in

adjacent areas. Mentioned to my Dr. and he said Biotin promotes hair growth. I

have been getting biotin in both multi-vitamin and b complex vitamin. Also

recently had mercury amalgam fillings removed, took OSR#1 to chelate mercury and

lead, and have been doing Bikram Yoga (stretching in sauna) for past 10 months.

Maybe a combination of factors has helped.

http://generalmedicine.suite101.com/article.cfm/truth_about_biotin_for_hair_grow\

th

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Hi DG

How are you doing after the chelation?

And how is the Bikram Yoga helping?

Steve

On Oct 20, 2009, at 5:21 PM, dg wrote:

> I didn't notice a hair loss, but this could have happened gradually.

> Never had a problem with balding.

> Recently noticed body hair on arms and legs is getting longer, and

> spouting in adjacent areas. Mentioned to my Dr. and he said Biotin

> promotes hair growth. I have been getting biotin in both multi-

> vitamin and b complex vitamin. Also recently had mercury amalgam

> fillings removed, took OSR#1 to chelate mercury and lead, and have

> been doing Bikram Yoga (stretching in sauna) for past 10 months.

> Maybe a combination of factors has helped.

>

>

http://generalmedicine.suite101.com/article.cfm/truth_about_biotin_for_hair_grow\

th

>

> >

>

>

>

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imitate without harmonizing "

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I believe that they live in hair follicles, so it would make sense that they

affect the health and structure of hair. Two suggestions:

I did have some hair loss, but it's gotten better. I pay a lot more attention to

my scalp now, using rosemary oil and peppermint in a carrier oil on it, sleeping

in hair conditioner with EOs like rosemary helped me a lot.

Epsom salts made the biggest difference. After about a month of doing these at

night (dissolving in water, pouring over head, drying on skin with a hairdryer)

then my scalp problems were pretty much gone, and the hair loss has stopped.

This might be hard to do if you work in an office, but you could treat yourself

as soon as you got home.

Epsom really does its part in wiping the little ()#*@$$@s out.

>

> Was just wondering if You ladies and gents are having Your fall out..kinda

creepy I guess...always have had curly hair but when i comb or brush there is

some weird fiber-like hair that seems to have no strength...I know this is a

morg symptom but a bit disconcerting..I know other people have mentioned

this..thanks,R.

>

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Thank You a zillion...these suggestions sound like they may work !!!From: lianasama <lianasama@...>bird mites Sent: Fri, June 4, 2010 2:07:36 PMSubject: Re: Hair loss

I believe that they live in hair follicles, so it would make sense that they affect the health and structure of hair. Two suggestions:

I did have some hair loss, but it's gotten better. I pay a lot more attention to my scalp now, using rosemary oil and peppermint in a carrier oil on it, sleeping in hair conditioner with EOs like rosemary helped me a lot.

Epsom salts made the biggest difference. After about a month of doing these at night (dissolving in water, pouring over head, drying on skin with a hairdryer) then my scalp problems were pretty much gone, and the hair loss has stopped. This might be hard to do if you work in an office, but you could treat yourself as soon as you got home.

Epsom really does its part in wiping the little ()#*@$$@s out.

>

> Was just wondering if You ladies and gents are having Your fall out..kinda creepy I guess...always have had curly hair but when i comb or brush there is some weird fiber-like hair that seems to have no strength...I know this is a morg symptom but a bit disconcerting..I know other people have mentioned this..thanks,R.

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