Re: Re: Vitamin C can inactivate Iodine .....

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Hi Ken,You must have missed the discussion we just hadabout taking Vitamin C at the same time (or mixed in with)Iodine. wrote to say she took both of them together andwas able to heal from her illness.From: gagokahno <gagokahno@...>iodine Sent: Sat, September 3, 2011 2:28:17 PMSubject: Re: Blood sugar goes up on Iodine.

One thing I came across recently is that Vit C can inactivate Iodine. I read also that is why Dr. Abraham used to alternate Vit C on one day and Iodine on the other. We're going to alternate our Vit C on an AM/PM basis. I read that Vit C can be used to remove Lugol's solution stains in clothing, tried it and sure enough, it worked! So, seems to make sense not to take Vit C at the same time as the Iodine. We have taken our Vit C at the same time for years now. I understand it is needed so just need to make a little adjustment. , do you agree? If so, maybe it would be a good addition to the New Members document, which I think it wonderful info btw!

Ken

>

> This sounds good as a factor to be aware of, but this was the first I'd heard of "rebound

> scurvy" and decided to investigate because it doesn't make sense to me.

>

> Here are some sources discussing:

> http://www.mothering.com/community/t/609680/rebound-scurvy , last comment:

> I honestly wouldn't be concerned about rebound scurvy. Levy MD writes

> about this in his book Vitamin C, Infectious Diseases and Toxins:

>

> Quote:Regular high-dose vitamin C therapy over an extended time seems to induce

> more enzyme activity, which helps to metabolie the greater vitamin C presence. A

> sudden stopping of significant long-term supplementation can drop vitamin C levels

> significantly lower than normal for a few days. Practically, this is of little concern

> unless someone is acutely hospitalized and in need of greater doses of vitamin C at

> a time when vitamin levels are dropping lower than normal.

>

> AND:

> http://www.doctoryourself.com/vitaminc2.html

> Discussion of "rebound scurvy" starts about one screen up from the bottom. This discusses

> the fact that "rebound scurvy" doesn't exist for adults, but may exist for newborns who don't

> receive extra Vit C if their mother was taking a lot during the pregnancy. It discusses the

> benefits of Vit C during pregnancy and the benefits to newborns.

>

> So this idea of "rebound scurvy" doesn't exist and is not a consideration for adults. The

> reason I am addressing this is because Vit C is part of the iodine protocol and I don't want

> anyone developing fears of it. And there is no need for weaning down if required, levels of

> Vit C may go to deficiency levels for a few days but they come back quickly. The real

> question is why people would want to stop their Vit C at all. But in any case, "rebound

> scurvy" is mostly a myth.

>

> --

>

>

> > Here is the text of an email I sent last week when this question

> > came up:

> >

> > , my blood glucose went up right after I started Iodoral and

> > increased my Vitamin C. I got feedback on the group that it wasn't

> > the iodine, it was the C and I googled and found this written by

> > an ND, which says that it's the C that's being measured, not

> > glucose:

> >

> > "Vitamin C can interfere with glucose tests since these two

> > compounds have similar chemical structures. Physicians need to

> > know if you are taking large doses of vitamin C so that they won't

> > misinterpret laboratory tests for the presence of glucose in the

> > urine. This can also create problems for people with diabetes who

> > need to monitor blood glucose levels."

> >

> > If you want to check A1C, I would lower the C dosage and retest.

> > The article also said:

> >

> > "High doses might lead to rebound scurvy when the supplements are

> > suddenly stopped. The body develops a mechanism for breaking down

> > and excreting the vitamin quickly, so that a deficiency may

> > develop when you resume a lower intake. To be safe, people taking

> > large amounts of vitamin C should wean themselves gradually from

> > it rather than stopping abruptly. The body can then become

> > accustomed to lower intakes."

> >

> > I also found this 2007 journal study conclusion: "Our results

> > indicate that daily consumption of 1000 mg supplementary vitamin C

> > may be beneficial in decreasing blood glucose and lipids in

> > patients with type 2 diabetes and thus reducing the risk of

> > complications."

> >

> > Marge

> >

> >

> >

> > From: olyone1111 <wemissrshayna@...>

> > iodine

> > Sent: Sat, September 3, 2011 7:29:47 AM

> > Subject: Blood sugar goes up on Iodine.

> >

> >

> > Does anyone know why blood sugar would go up while taking iodine?

> >

> > Suggestions PLEASE. Iodine seems to help this person with his

> > depression, but raises his blood sugar a lot.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Olivia

> >

[Guest guest]

Here is the scoop:

Vit C converts brown elemental iodiNe into clear potassium iodiDe. So it's not

true that Vit C

" inactivates " iodine-- it converts one part of Lugol's into another part. While

it is true that vit

C powder will remove the brown stain from your hands if you get Lugol's on them,

it's only

because the brown iodine is CONVERTED to the clear potassium iodiDe. There is

still iodine

on your hands, but it's been converted to the clear kind.

The ONLY TIME there is any possibility of this conversion happening inside the

body is IF it

were possible for Vitamin C and Lugol's to be in the stomach at the same time

and interact

the same exact way as they do on top of one's skin, or in a glass. People who

take

IODORAL tablets will NEVER have this concern because the Iodoral does not

dissolve until

deep in the gut and by that time any potential for interaction is completely

over.

The idea that you have to take vit c and iodine on separate days is ludicrous,

and I don't care

whose opinion that is. Dr Abraham is not a proponent of the cutting edge of

iodine

information. People need Vit C every single day, and we cycle it out of our

bodies every 2-3

hours unless we take a form that is longer lasting. Similarly, we need iodine

every day. So

the idea of taking them on alternate days is not in the best interests of your

health.

Moreover, it is NOT AT ALL CLEAR that Lugol's and Vit C could or would interact

in the

stomach because that is not the same environment as a test tube. There is other

food,

there is stomach acid, we really don't know what happens in there. BUT, if you

ARE

CONCERNED, simply avoid taking your Lugol's with a concentration of Vit C. Take

your Vit

C supplements a couple of hours away from the Lugol's. And if you take IODORAL,

you

have absolutely nothing to be concerned about and you can take your Vit C at the

same time

as your Iodoral tablets.

And please, do not buy into this idea of having to alternate iodine and Vit C

each day.

THERE IS NO WAY that iodine and Vit C interact once the iodine is in your

bloodstream (or

the gut). It is only in the presence of CONCENTRATED Vit C that the conversion

is even

possible, and the ONLY PLACE in the body that could possibly happen is within

the

stomach, and even that is unproven and possibly not a concern as well.

I hope this helps.

--

moderator

> Hi Ken,

> You must have missed the discussion we just had

> about taking Vitamin C at the same time (or mixed in with)

> Iodine.

> wrote to say she took both of them together and

> was able to heal from her illness.

>

>

> From: gagokahno <gagokahno@...>

> iodine

> Sent: Sat, September 3, 2011 2:28:17 PM

> Subject: Re: Blood sugar goes up on Iodine.

>

>

>

>

> One thing I came across recently is that Vit C can inactivate Iodine.

> I read also that is why Dr. Abraham used to alternate Vit C on one day

> and Iodine on the other. We're going to alternate our Vit C on an

> AM/PM basis. I read that Vit C can be used to remove Lugol's solution

> stains in clothing, tried it and sure enough, it worked! So, seems to

> make sense not to take Vit C at the same time as the Iodine. We have

> taken our Vit C at the same time for years now. I understand it is

> needed so just need to make a little adjustment. , do you

> agree? If so, maybe it would be a good addition to the New Members

> document, which I think it wonderful info btw!

>

> Ken

>

> >

> > This sounds good as a factor to be aware of, but this was the first

> I'd heard of " rebound > scurvy " and decided to investigate because it

> doesn't make sense to me. > > Here are some sources discussing: >

> http://www.mothering.com/community/t/609680/rebound-scurvy , last

> comment: > I honestly wouldn't be concerned about rebound scurvy.

> Levy MD writes > about this in his book Vitamin C, Infectious

> Diseases and Toxins: > > Quote:Regular high-dose vitamin C therapy

> over an extended time seems to induce > more enzyme activity, which

> helps to metabolie the greater vitamin C presence. A > sudden stopping

> of significant long-term supplementation can drop vitamin C levels >

> significantly lower than normal for a few days. Practically, this is

> of little concern > unless someone is acutely hospitalized and in need

> of greater doses of vitamin C at > a time when vitamin levels are

> dropping lower than normal. > > AND: >

> http://www.doctoryourself.com/vitaminc2.html > Discussion of " rebound

> scurvy " starts about one screen up from the bottom. This discusses >

> the fact that " rebound scurvy " doesn't exist for adults, but may exist

> for newborns who don't > receive extra Vit C if their mother was

> taking a lot during the pregnancy. It discusses the > benefits of Vit

> C during pregnancy and the benefits to newborns. > > So this idea of

> " rebound scurvy " doesn't exist and is not a consideration for adults.

> The > reason I am addressing this is because Vit C is part of the

> iodine protocol and I don't want > anyone developing fears of it. And

> there is no need for weaning down if required, levels of > Vit C may

> go to deficiency levels for a few days but they come back quickly. The

> real > question is why people would want to stop their Vit C at all.

> But in any case, " rebound > scurvy " is mostly a myth. > > -- >

> > > > Here is the text of an email I sent last week when this question

> > > came up: > > > > , my blood glucose went up right after I

> started Iodoral and > > increased my Vitamin C. I got feedback on the

> group that it wasn't > > the iodine, it was the C and I googled and

> found this written by > > an ND, which says that it's the C that's

> being measured, not > > glucose: > > > > " Vitamin C can interfere with

> glucose tests since these two > > compounds have similar chemical

> structures. Physicians need to > > know if you are taking large doses

> of vitamin C so that they won't > > misinterpret laboratory tests for

> the presence of glucose in the > > urine. This can also create

> problems for people with diabetes who > > need to monitor blood

> glucose levels. " > > > > If you want to check A1C, I would lower the C

> dosage and retest. > > The article also said: > > > > " High doses

> might lead to rebound scurvy when the supplements are > > suddenly

> stopped. The body develops a mechanism for breaking down > > and

> excreting the vitamin quickly, so that a deficiency may > > develop

> when you resume a lower intake. To be safe, people taking > > large

> amounts of vitamin C should wean themselves gradually from > > it

> rather than stopping abruptly. The body can then become > > accustomed

> to lower intakes. " > > > > I also found this 2007 journal study

> conclusion: " Our results > > indicate that daily consumption of 1000

> mg supplementary vitamin C > > may be beneficial in decreasing blood

> glucose and lipids in > > patients with type 2 diabetes and thus

> reducing the risk of > > complications. " > > > > Marge > > > > > > > >

> From: olyone1111 <wemissrshayna@...> > > iodine >

> > Sent: Sat, September 3, 2011 7:29:47 AM > > Subject: Blood

> sugar goes up on Iodine. > > > > > > Does anyone know why blood sugar

> would go up while taking iodine? > > > > Suggestions PLEASE. Iodine

> seems to help this person with his > > depression, but raises his

> blood sugar a lot. > > > > Thanks, > > Olivia > >

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