Guest guest Posted April 14, 2000 Report Share Posted April 14, 2000 Hi, I know a CFS person who cannot tolerate Vit C at all! Christie At 10:45 PM 4/13/00 -0700, you wrote: >I took 28 gms a day & saw no improvement, but I also hadn't reached bowel tolerance. > > " M. Louis Hanson " wrote: > >> I personally know a 38 year old lady who had CFIDs very >> badly and spent most of her time in bed. She decided, after >> reading Linus ing, that she would ramp up on C to just >> under her bowl tolerance (point of diarrahea)....she ended >> up taking 20 grams of vitamin C daily (orally) for 18 months. >> She is now TOTALLY well. It just really amazed me. >> >> M. Louis > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2000 Report Share Posted April 14, 2000 " C.Tab. " wrote: > Hi, > > I know a CFS person who cannot tolerate Vit C at all! Christie > > > At 10:45 PM 4/13/00 -0700, you wrote: > >I took 28 gms a day & saw no improvement, but I also hadn't reached > bowel > tolerance. > My bowels tend to get loose at the slightest provocation, so I can only tolerate the amount of C that is in my multivitamin. If I try to take extra C in any form (including Ester-C, buffered C, ascorbate, etc.), I get immediate uncontrollable runs (bleah!). This wasn't true prior to CFIDS - I can recall taking 8 grams/day when I was in my 20's and fighting sinus infections. -- el - andrea@... (IFF " FNORD " appears - remove it from my email address to reply) " ...wake now! Discover that you are the song that the morning brings... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2001 Report Share Posted June 16, 2001 I was wondering if there has ever been a study on atomic structure and electromagnetic and electrical qualities between chemical and natural Vit C. I take it chemical Vit C is made of crude-oil, or manufactured in some other chemical proces, while natural Vit. C is distracted from living organisms. So the latter has maybe complete different light transferring and other quantum mechanical qualities. Secondly. Now that on Worldwide scale, farmaceuticals are fighting to get the natural healing world into their own hands, this study on Vit C (see below) is ofcourse 'wheat on their mill' (Dutch proverb). I would not be supprised if this study was specially setup and funded by farmaceuticals to make a statement in the discussions to set up the CODEX (European regulation that they want to esteblish, that would imply that for every foodsupplement you would first have to have a prescribtion from the MD). I think all things inlive have a negative side and a possitive side. Look at oxygen free radicals. They are seen as one of the main causes for cancer through oxidating lipids, while at the same time it is thé main weapon of the body to fight cancer (Dr. Warburg), virussen and bacteria (oxynative burst), rejuvinate cells, destroy poisons etc. SO OFCOURSE YOU WILL FIND WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. We might expect much more of these kind of results from farmaceutical payed research in the near future. After the Cancerous effects of Vit C Next ones might be: The Agrivating destruction of cells by Vit A The Brutal Betrayal of Vit B the Deadly Dangers of Vit D. Etc. Regards Doedens Rapid Recovery Hyperbarics wrote: > Vitamin C Found To Promote > Cancer-Causing Agents > By Will Dunham > 6-15-1 > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vitamin C, an essential nutrient found in fruits and > vegetables and taken in large doses by many people as a dietary supplement, > is a double-edged sword, providing benefits but also inducing the production > of compounds associated with cancer, researchers said on Thursday. > Researchers at the University of Pennsylvania added vitamin C, also known as > ascorbic acid, to solutions of a degraded version of an important fatty acid > found in blood, and found that it triggered the production of DNA-damaging > agents known to cause mutations associated with a variety of cancers. > Lead researcher Ian Blair of the university's Center for Cancer Pharmacology > cautioned that the study was conducted in a test tube and not with living > human cells or in actual people. > " Absolutely for God's sake don't say vitamin C causes cancer, " Blair said in > a telephone interview. > " The key finding is that vitamin C can do good things and bad things. And > we've figured out what the bad ones are. In terms of the impact, I think it > just redirects people's attention to the fact that you can't replace a good > diet with magic bullets such as vitamin C. " > The value of vitamin C has been the subject of a long and heated debate in > the scientific community. One of the leading scientists of the 20th century, > Linus ing, who died at age 93 in 1994, championed it as a tool for > fighting cancer. > But skeptics argued that numerous studies have found that vitamin C produced > no benefit in combating cancer, and that taking supplements actually could > have negative consequences. The new study appears to add weight to those > concerns. > CAUTION URGED ON DIETARY SUPPLEMENTS > " Far more caution should be taken in the use of dietary supplements -- and > an insistence on real proof that there's a benefit before undertaking any of > them, " said Dr. Arthur Grollman, director of the Laboratory for Chemical > Biology at the State University of New York at Stony Brook. > " The real, serious implication is that it (vitamin C) could contribute to > DNA damage that could cause cancer, " added Grollman, an expert in cancer > causes who was not involved in the study. " It just adds more evidence that > there could be a significant risk to ascorbic acid. " > Blair said the study, which appears in the journal Science, may explain why > vitamin C has shown little effectiveness at preventing cancer in clinical > trials. > Vitamin C is a water-soluble vitamin that is important for bone and > connective tissue growth, wound repair and the function of blood vessels. It > is abundant in citrus fruits, green peppers, tomatoes, cabbage and potatoes. > The recommended U.S. adult dietary allowance for vitamin C is 60 milligrams > daily. Most supplements contain many times that amount. > Dr. Garret FitzGerald, director of the University of Pennsylvania's Center > for Experimental Therapeutics, pointed to evidence of a benefit from an > overall healthy diet rather than taking supplements on any particular > nutrient. > " We have very clear evidence that eating a diet rich in vegetables and > fruits is a healthy thing in terms of it being associated with a reduced > incidence of cancer and, indeed, heart disease, for that matter, " FitzGerald > said. > " On the one hand, I would say to people there's no evidence to stop taking > vitamin C on the basis of these observations at this point in time. On the > other hand, I'd say consider very carefully what the evidence is for taking > vitamin C, which is nonexistent. The better part of valor is: save your > money. " > VITAMIN C IS AN ANTIOXIDANT > Vitamin C acts as an antioxidant protecting against damage by " free > radicals " -- highly reactive ions produced by the breakdown of oxygen in > cells. In addition to damaging DNA directly, free radicals also can act > indirectly. > They begin by converting linoleic acid, the major polyunsaturated fatty acid > in human blood plasma and the key polyunsaturated fatty acid in certain > cooking oils, into another compound called a lipid hydroperoxide. > When certain metal ions are present as catalysts, the compound degrades into > DNA-damaging agents called genotoxins, which cause mutations that have been > found in human tumors. > Blair said he had a hunch that vitamin C might be capable of changing lipid > hydroperoxides into genotoxins. He added vitamin C to test tube solutions of > lipid hydroperoxides, using concentrations comparable to those found in the > human body if a person were taking 200 milligrams a day. > The study found that vitamin C was more than twice as efficient as > transition metal ions at inducing the formation of genotoxins, including a > particularly potent variety. > > Re: LIVER HELP NEEDED > > > Jeff > > Everything needed is available at your nearest health food store and drug > > store. > > > > Corny > > > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:18:13 -0700 " Jeff Laymon " <jlaymon@...> > > writes: > > > > > > My wife's in need of a liver cleanse treatment. I've seen a list of > > > all > > > the ingredients needed. Can someone steer me in the right > > > direction for a convenient online source for all of them. > > > > > > I have Dr. Saul's book which lists the various components needed. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > > Jeff from Modesto > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > > > and other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > > > here are for information and research purposes only. We are people > > > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, > > > you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > > > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. > > > By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > > > yourself. 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Guest guest Posted June 16, 2001 Report Share Posted June 16, 2001 Dear , You are exactly right. He who pays the pier calls the tune. The great majority of research these days is instigated and paid for by commercial interests, who seek a predetermined outcome. Independent labs have disappeared from want of funding, because they don't produce the 'right' results. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH Re: LIVER HELP NEEDED > > > Jeff > > Everything needed is available at your nearest health food store and drug > > store. > > > > Corny > > > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:18:13 -0700 " Jeff Laymon " <jlaymon@...> > > writes: > > > > > > My wife's in need of a liver cleanse treatment. I've seen a list of > > > all > > > the ingredients needed. Can someone steer me in the right > > > direction for a convenient online source for all of them. > > > > > > I have Dr. Saul's book which lists the various components needed. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > > Jeff from Modesto > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > > > and other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > > > here are for information and research purposes only. We are people > > > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, > > > you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > > > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. > > > By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > > > yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a > > > medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care > > > provider. > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > > > following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > > > BODY of the message! : > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > > > mode. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2001 Report Share Posted June 17, 2001 I find the following statement to be very balanced and credible, and I don't think we should automatically assume that this research is an attempt at deception instigated by the drug industry: Rapid Recovery Hyperbarics wrote: > Vitamin C Found To Promote > Cancer-Causing Agents > By Will Dunham > 6-15-1 > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) . > " Absolutely for God's sake don't say vitamin C causes cancer, " Blair said in > a telephone interview. > " The key finding is that vitamin C can do good things and bad things. And > we've figured out what the bad ones are. In terms of the impact, I think it > just redirects people's attention to the fact that you can't replace a good > diet with magic bullets such as vitamin C. " > Blair said he had a hunch that vitamin C might be capable of changing lipid > hydroperoxides into genotoxins. He added vitamin C to test tube solutions of > lipid hydroperoxides, using concentrations comparable to those found in the > human body if a person were taking 200 milligrams a day. > The study found that vitamin C was more than twice as efficient as > transition metal ions at inducing the formation of genotoxins, including a > particularly potent variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Amla powder. It's an herb that contains the highest amounts of natural C. HF stores with an herbal dept usually have it. Corny On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:51:41 -0700 " Donna " <ruthful@...> writes: > Hey all, If a person wants to up their vit c and they already eat > alot of fresh stuff but still need more c, and they don't want > ascorbic acid or ester c, they want something natural with a good > potency, what would they look for. > > Thanks, > Donna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Amla powder. It's an herb that contains the highest amounts of natural C. HF stores with an herbal dept usually have it. Corny On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:51:41 -0700 " Donna " <ruthful@...> writes: > Hey all, If a person wants to up their vit c and they already eat > alot of fresh stuff but still need more c, and they don't want > ascorbic acid or ester c, they want something natural with a good > potency, what would they look for. > > Thanks, > Donna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Rose hips has always been THE " natural " source! Personally, I'd stick with ascorbic acid crystals (4000mg/teaspoon). There is a fat soluble form (I really snowed a medical student with this) called ascorbyl palminate that would be a useful adjunct. Chuck Metal is for wearing. Flesh is for changing. You wouldn't understand, it's a cyborg thing. On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:51:41 -0700, " Donna " <ruthful@...> wrote: >Hey all, If a person wants to up their vit c and they already eat alot of fresh stuff but still need more c, and they don't want ascorbic acid or ester c, they want something natural with a good potency, what would they look for. > >Thanks, >Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Rose hips has always been THE " natural " source! Personally, I'd stick with ascorbic acid crystals (4000mg/teaspoon). There is a fat soluble form (I really snowed a medical student with this) called ascorbyl palminate that would be a useful adjunct. Chuck Metal is for wearing. Flesh is for changing. You wouldn't understand, it's a cyborg thing. On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:51:41 -0700, " Donna " <ruthful@...> wrote: >Hey all, If a person wants to up their vit c and they already eat alot of fresh stuff but still need more c, and they don't want ascorbic acid or ester c, they want something natural with a good potency, what would they look for. > >Thanks, >Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 Steve, There are lots of folks who know more about nutrition than I do on this list, but I am absolutely positive that I have never heard that a baby could go through " withdrawel " from any vitamin, particularly one that is water soluble. It sounds like this WIC worker is way wicked wacky, and blowing smoke. D Freeman Mailing address: 2480 Liberty Street NE, Suite 180 Salem, Oregon 97303 ph 503 763-3528 fax 503 763-3530 cell 503 871-0715 Vit C > I have a patient who was in today and her daughter is preg. with first > child. She does smoke and is trying to quit but is still smoking 2-3 cigs a > day. She went to the diet specialist for WIC and she told her she was > taking too much Vit C (1000 mg/day) and to cut it down and scared the hell > out of her claiming the baby would have vit C withdrawals. She made it > sound like the child would be addicted This same person told her to stop > taking any additional Folic Acid over and above the pre-nat. vit. she was > taking. > > I told her I am not heavy into the nutritional end but that I would write > the list and see if there was any input. Her daughter cut the vit. C way > down and developed immediate chest/lung pain for 3 days and felt like she > was getting a cold so she already up the dose back up to 1000 mg /day > anyway. > I recall somewhere that Vit C is diminished by 100 mg. per cig. smoke per > day does anyone know if that is true? > > Anyway any input would be appreciated. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 Steve- Smoking definitely depletes vit.c, I can't put my finger on the reference but I think it may be in the tune of 25mgs./cig. I think there also may be some theoretical or anecdotal basis(from the likes of Barrett, self proclaimed quack buster) for the Wick lady's comment, but I don't believe there is any real evidence or cause for concern. Hopefully another list mate can provide a reference or resource! jk PS I also think her folic acid advice was equally reactionary. Vit C > I have a patient who was in today and her daughter is preg. with first > child. She does smoke and is trying to quit but is still smoking 2-3 cigs a > day. She went to the diet specialist for WIC and she told her she was > taking too much Vit C (1000 mg/day) and to cut it down and scared the hell > out of her claiming the baby would have vit C withdrawals. She made it > sound like the child would be addicted This same person told her to stop > taking any additional Folic Acid over and above the pre-nat. vit. she was > taking. > > I told her I am not heavy into the nutritional end but that I would write > the list and see if there was any input. Her daughter cut the vit. C way > down and developed immediate chest/lung pain for 3 days and felt like she > was getting a cold so she already up the dose back up to 1000 mg /day > anyway. > I recall somewhere that Vit C is diminished by 100 mg. per cig. smoke per > day does anyone know if that is true? > > Anyway any input would be appreciated. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2002 Report Share Posted February 18, 2002 Steve: Have found Time Release C is far more effective for maintenance. DrBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Interesting stuff from WWW.healthandyoga.com<http://www.healthandyoga.com/>. Amla powder (also known as Indian Gooseberry) although a fruit is used to CURE diabetes. Properties of Amla: 1) mixed with bitter gourd juice stimulates insulin secretion. 2) Amla by itself is invaluable for control of diabetes. 3) 20x the C content of grapefruit, 15x that of lemon. 4) natural antioxidants in the fruit protect and preserve the accompanying nutrients. Other benefits: 1) inflammation reduction. 2) Inhibits phlegm and bile. 3) fertility increase 4) improves heart ailments, hair texture, eye health. Corny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 Hi Dorinda, First of all always take natural Vit C (from Acerola for example). Second, the amount varies with the individual, but our daily real need is around 1500/2000 mg. When in godd health it is enough to take this dose and when tired or ill, depending on your affection, you can increase the dose by oral route up to 3000/5000 mg. (Cf works of Linus ing, Nobel Prize, and the clinical trials...) The human beeing is the only animal on earth not to synthesize its own Vit C so the less you have, the worst your condition. Thanks for your attention. Bruno Sézille Naturopath Accredited Scenar Therapist France >From: " Dorinda Gentry " <going2xs@...> >Reply-Vaccinations > " Vaccinations " <Vaccinations > >Subject: Vit C >Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:52:41 -0600 > > >Okay, how much of vit c should one take when healthy and when sick? Is >there a point where it's not longer benefitting? There's a girl that takes >3000 mg a day and recommends that and it sounds a bit much for me. > >Dorinda >Mommy to >Seth and Saron > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 It's contentious - different amounts for different ages -also depends on diet -also depends on how real the source is to it's absorbtion. Generally more for illness and is suggested multivits levels are rediculously low. Is said try incrementations by the gram and when you start feeling ill/diohrea then that's your limit and drop back by one. Cath In Vaccinations , " Dorinda Gentry " <going2xs@y...> wrote: > Okay, how much of vit c should one take when healthy and when sick? Is > there a point where it's not longer benefitting? There's a girl that takes > 3000 mg a day and recommends that and it sounds a bit much for me. > > Dorinda > Mommy to > Seth and Saron > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 dorinda, if you do a search in the archives, you'll come up with a lot of proper info on vit.c as sheri posts this every once in a while. 3000mg is nothing for an adult, i don't even take that little when i'm feeling completely healthy. the highest amount i've taken was somewhere around 80 g (yes, grams) per day, while having a fairly high temperature (definitely over 100F, but didn't measure), bad cough and extremely snotty nose. the only 'treatment' i did was the vit. c and i also ate nothing but pineapple and drank loads of water - was over it within barely 4 days. :-) claudia --- almasysk <cathysmailbox@...> wrote: > > It's contentious - different amounts for different > ages -also > depends on diet -also depends on how real the source > is to it's > absorbtion. Generally more for illness and is > suggested multivits > levels are rediculously low. Is said try > incrementations by the > gram and when you start feeling ill/diohrea then > that's your limit > and drop back by one. > > Cath > > In Vaccinations , " Dorinda Gentry " > <going2xs@y...> > wrote: > > Okay, how much of vit c should one take when > healthy and when > sick? Is > > there a point where it's not longer benefitting? > There's a girl > that takes > > 3000 mg a day and recommends that and it sounds a > bit much for me. > > > > Dorinda > > Mommy to > > Seth and Saron > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > ===== http://www.himalayasalt.co.uk http://www.he-ed.org.uk " We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion or to a non- existent authority on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the Future. " Wilhelm Reich ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 I did go through it all and found a formula, but wasn't sure if it was for kids? or everyone? sick or healthy? Divide the number of pounds by 2.2 to get the kilograms your child weights and then multiply times 200 for minimum mg per day 40 pounds divided by 2.2 = about 18 kilograms X 200 mg per kg of body weight = 3636 mg or 3.6 GM OR X 375 mg (hi end) = 6818 mg or 6.8 gm Dorinda Mommy to Seth and Saron Re: Re: Vit C dorinda, if you do a search in the archives, you'll come up with a lot of proper info on vit.c as sheri posts this every once in a while. 3000mg is nothing for an adult, i don't even take that little when i'm feeling completely healthy. the highest amount i've taken was somewhere around 80 g (yes, grams) per day, while having a fairly high temperature (definitely over 100F, but didn't measure), bad cough and extremely snotty nose. the only 'treatment' i did was the vit. c and i also ate nothing but pineapple and drank loads of water - was over it within barely 4 days. :-) claudia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 the formula is for children. adults can need much higher amounts than that. for an adult it's easy enough to find out, especially if you take sodium ascorbate rather than ascorbic acid: keep taking it until you hit the loo! then you know you've had enough for a day, because any more will simply flush through you straight away. if you want to investigate the vitamin c issue further, i'd highly recommend doing an internet search on both linus pauling and archie kalokerinos. those two will give you a lot of ideas of what vitamin c is capable of and how much is needed. claudia --- Dorinda Gentry <going2xs@...> wrote: > I did go through it all and found a formula, but > wasn't sure if it was for > kids? or everyone? sick or healthy? > > Divide the number of pounds by 2.2 to get the > kilograms your child weights > and then multiply times 200 for minimum mg per day > > 40 pounds divided by 2.2 = about 18 kilograms X 200 > mg per kg of body > weight = 3636 mg or 3.6 GM > OR X 375 mg (hi end) = 6818 mg or 6.8 gm > > > Dorinda > Mommy to > Seth and Saron ===== http://www.himalayasalt.co.uk http://www.he-ed.org.uk " We shall no longer hang on to the tails of public opinion or to a non- existent authority on matters utterly unknown and strange. We shall gradually become experts ourselves in the mastery of the knowledge of the Future. " Wilhelm Reich ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 My partner's clinical nutritionist has her on high doses of vit. C via IV . . .. claiming it does not interfere with the chemotherapeutic effects of hormonal therapy . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 I don't know what the conflicting theories are, but my wife and I talked with an elderly gentleman while at the Mayo Clinic and he related a very positive story about high doseage Vitamin C IV's. He went through all the conventional treatments for prostate cancer and they had no effect. He said he was told that there was nothing else the Dr's could do. He went to a doctor who administered high doseage vitamin C IV's and he said after these treatments his PSA which had just been taken at the clinic was " undetectable " and there was no sign of cancer. I don't think he had any reason to lie to us but who knows? He seemed very honest and sincere. Will it work for cancer? I don't know. He claims that is the only treatment that had an effect on his type of cancer. Stan & Vit C There are conflicting theories on the use of Vit C drips for treating cancer. Any thoughts on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 In a message dated 07/05/2006 00:19:57 GMT Daylight Time, MaddiganV@... writes: Hi everyone, been struggling for a few weeks now with and regression, he suddenly became very violent and started losing ground. Initially I stopped his calcium from reading Natasa's posts we seen less frequent rage cycles but just as violent when they did come, anyway reading stuff from LOD group made me think perhaps Vit C as it was a relatively new addition to his supps, talk about Eureka moment!!!we are back to smiles and gentleness, no violence at all, rage cycles has reverted back to just noisy protest, waited a couple of days to post this as didn't want to tempt fate lol. >>>Thank goodness, we missed yah We have no troubles with vitamin C, sorry no help there, just very pleased you are through the nightmare! Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 In a message dated 07/05/2006 00:19:57 GMT Daylight Time, MaddiganV@... writes: Hi everyone, been struggling for a few weeks now with and regression, he suddenly became very violent and started losing ground. Initially I stopped his calcium from reading Natasa's posts we seen less frequent rage cycles but just as violent when they did come, anyway reading stuff from LOD group made me think perhaps Vit C as it was a relatively new addition to his supps, talk about Eureka moment!!!we are back to smiles and gentleness, no violence at all, rage cycles has reverted back to just noisy protest, waited a couple of days to post this as didn't want to tempt fate lol. >>>Thank goodness, we missed yah We have no troubles with vitamin C, sorry no help there, just very pleased you are through the nightmare! Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Thanks Mandi, huge sighs of relief here, peace at last, now where were we,lol. Vicky xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 Which Brand of Vitamin C were you using Vicky ? Joanne > > Hi everyone, been struggling for a few weeks now with and > regression, he suddenly became very violent and started losing ground. > Initially I stopped his calcium from reading Natasa's posts we seen > less frequent rage cycles but just as violent when they did come, > anyway reading stuff from LOD group made me think perhaps Vit C as it > was a relatively new addition to his supps, talk about Eureka moment!!! > we are back to smiles and gentleness, no violence at all, rage cycles > has reverted back to just noisy protest, waited a couple of days to > post this as didn't want to tempt fate lol. > Have been reading bits and pieces on LOD but had trouble getting my > head round it to be honest, I think I may have to go back and take more > in. > Anyone else noticed problems with Vit C, I did wonder about adding this > in anyway as he is such a lover of veggies, maybe it's how much Vit C > he gets, also wondering as has had so much success with all the > gut healing perhaps the goal posts move in terms of what is being > absorbed???? > Vicky > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Hi Vicky. Never had any trouble with ( buffered I think ) vit C powder. Miles. veronicamadigan wrote: > Hi everyone, been struggling for a few weeks now with and > regression, he suddenly became very violent and started losing ground. > Initially I stopped his calcium from reading Natasa's posts we seen > less frequent rage cycles but just as violent when they did come, > anyway reading stuff from LOD group made me think perhaps Vit C as it > was a relatively new addition to his supps, talk about Eureka moment!!! > we are back to smiles and gentleness, no violence at all, rage cycles > has reverted back to just noisy protest, waited a couple of days to > post this as didn't want to tempt fate lol. > Have been reading bits and pieces on LOD but had trouble getting my > head round it to be honest, I think I may have to go back and take more > in. > Anyone else noticed problems with Vit C, I did wonder about adding this > in anyway as he is such a lover of veggies, maybe it's how much Vit C > he gets, also wondering as has had so much success with all the > gut healing perhaps the goal posts move in terms of what is being > absorbed???? > Vicky > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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