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Hi everyone,

I have just sent some information to those people who requested it,

concerning the materials I sent to the insurance company when we appealed to

get back on our insurance. If anyone else would like the file, let me

know. I included seven documents so I sent them as an attachment to

individuals as I felt it was too long for the list.

Jackie

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Hi Jackie, Thanks for trying to send

the insurance info. Could you please send it to

bridport@... My address is too full

for that much info. I need to transfer some things!

Hope this works for you. I will be looking for it.

Vivian

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Jackie,

Please also send me that file. Thanks

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Subject: Re: insurance

From: Jackie48hr@...

Hi everyone,

I have just sent some information to those people who requested it,

concerning the materials I sent to the insurance company when we appealed to

get back on our insurance. If anyone else would like the file, let me

know. I included seven documents so I sent them as an attachment to

individuals as I felt it was too long for the list.

Jackie

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In a message dated 00-01-16 08:28:15 EST, you write:

<< We have product liability insurance. If you are going to

sell to the public you really should get it. It is not that bad and you can

get it through your home agent. >>

Hi, I was just wondering the approximate cost? I would love

to start a small part-time soap business but, I thought the

cost of insurance would be so high that I wouldn't be able

to make a real profit. Any help on this would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Cyan

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Cyan, I think it all depends on what you have

available in your area. I had to check with 3

different companies before I finally found somebody

that would even write a policy on this. I wasn't too

pleased with the price. They want $900 per year for

product liablity. I don't remember how much coverage

that would have given me, but I'm still mulling that

price over! LOL!

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 23:10:08 EST

From: Cyan451762@...

Subject: Re: Insurance

Hi, I was just wondering the approximate cost? I would

love

to start a small part-time soap business but, I

thought the

cost of insurance would be so high that I wouldn't be

able

to make a real profit. Any help on this would be

appreciated.

Thanks,

Cyan

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Hi --

No, No, NO!! Don't spend that kind of money on insurance for your business!!

We just got a policy from The Hartford insurance - on soaps, toiletries AND

candles - for $313/year. For a LOT of coverage (probably more than we NEED

right now! <g>).

If anyone would like the agent's name and number (he's licensed in a number

of states besides IL, where I live), e-mail me privately.

Sievers

Oak Court Creations, Inc.

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www.rlicorp.com

Insurance

> From: Colin Gwyther <lyng@...>

>

> Dear Barbara,

> Sorry to ask through the list, I would like more infomation on the

> Insurance agent please. I tried to find you through aol but a search page

> came up and when I typed in handcraftedsoaps, a listing for Carribean

> handcrafted soaps was the only listing returned.

> Thanks

> Colin Gwyther

> Lynette G,

> Bath, Body, Hair and Cosmetics

> 53 Sorlie Rd, Frenchs Forest, NSW, 2086

> Australia. Ph (61 2 )9975 6075 Fax (61 2) 9972 7173

> http://www.lynetteg.com.au

>

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Debra,

My liability ins co. has very good rates (around $300yr), good coverage and

a knowledgeable (about the home crafts industry) agent. I think " 1

toiletries " is the only list where we are not allowed to give names. It is

hard to remember all the rules. If interested E-mail me privatly and I will

get you his web address.

Thanks,

Dan

Studios

Retired Wee Forest Folk and the only source for

Habitat Hideaway collectibles on the internet.

www.cybercitymall.com

Subject: Insurance

>From: " Deborah Bunzendahl " <avatar@...>

>

>Could I get some brief info from this list about insurance?

>My insurance man seems.......

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I would also like to know the answers to these questions. Thanks.

Marling

Everafter Farms, Soap & Homeschool

Searcy, AR

: From: " Deborah Bunzendahl " <avatar@...>

:

: Could I get some brief info from this list about insurance?

: My insurance man seems clueless about what type of insurance

: etc.

:

: I'd like to know:

: The type of insurance (what it is called)

: is it for soap making only and or toiletries?

: Who holds the rider.

: How much are you paying? (I know this might be to personal -

: e-mail me privately if you wish)

:

: There could be an easier way to get this info, if you have

: suggestions I would appreciate any direction.

:

: Thank you Debbie B.

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RLI doesn't write policies in Louisiana, at least

that's what I was told when I wrote for information.

:(

However, we're signing today for insurance through a

local agency. The underwriter is Lloyds of London.

They're covering our candles, bath and body products

and giving us $10,000 of content coverage in my house

for the business supplies that's not covered under my

regular homeowner's insurance for $550.

This is $300,000 of product and general liability

coverage.

The only other quote we got was for around $1,000 and

it only gave us $100,000 of product liability.

Maybe it's hard to write these policies in Louisiana

for some reason???

Hope this helps someone with their insurance problems.

--- Marnie & Don <bestbuds@...> wrote:

> RLI is who I use too -but they wont carry for candle

> making. I can find one

> company but they want o charge me 500.00 a yr

> instead of 250.00 =no thanks:)

>

> Anyone know a good company for candle insurance?

>

> Thanks

> Marnie

>

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My coverage is for 1 million dollars.

Marnie

Re: Insurance

RLI doesn't write policies in Louisiana, at least

that's what I was told when I wrote for information.

:(

However, we're signing today for insurance through a

local agency. The underwriter is Lloyds of London.

They're covering our candles, bath and body products

and giving us $10,000 of content coverage in my house

for the business supplies that's not covered under my

regular homeowner's insurance for $550.

This is $300,000 of product and general liability

coverage.

The only other quote we got was for around $1,000 and

it only gave us $100,000 of product liability.

Maybe it's hard to write these policies in Louisiana

for some reason???

Hope this helps someone with their insurance problems.

--- Marnie & Don <bestbuds@...> wrote:

> RLI is who I use too -but they wont carry for candle

> making. I can find one

> company but they want o charge me 500.00 a yr

> instead of 250.00 =no thanks:)

>

> Anyone know a good company for candle insurance?

>

> Thanks

> Marnie

>

> Butterflies & Wildflowers

> -----------------------------------

> Pamper your mind, body & soul

> With our Handcrafted Toiletries &

> Delicious Homemade Chocolates.

> http://wildflowers.simplenet.com

>

>

>

=====

Please visit the Practical Elegance website for all your candle, bath and

body and gift needs at

http://www.practicalelegance.tsx.org

Don't curse the darkness--light a candle.

-- Chinese proverb

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HI, Radha,

>hi all, i have a question, i have medicaid, but that doesnt cover alot, and

>no other insurance will cover me since i dont work and am not a full time

>student, , i've never worked, since i've been sick since 15, now 23, do any

>of u know of any insurance companies that might cover me? thanks for help

I gather that you are a part-time student? Some schools allow even part-time

students to purchase student health coverage; check with the administration.

Since you have been sick since 15, I assume you don't have enough earning

quarters to qualify for SSDI but the Soc Sec Admin has some programs for

those disabled from childhood. Phone your local SSA office to find out. This

is likely to include Medicare part A - you can buy part B plans if you

qualify for part A, and it is the part B plans that will provide doctors

office visits, Rx plan etc. depending on which plan you buy.

Another potential option is to check with (my nemesis) your Blue Cross; some

have gone to offering individual plans that are priced less than individual

plans from for-profit insurers.

One other option may be through area groups such as the Chamber of Commerce

- these often provide group insurance plans for very small companies

(minimum of 2 in our area, may be different elsewhere) and do not require

that you be full-time or salaried. Professional societies (e.g. Writers

Guild) often offer group health ins to members; you may be eligible for

those (like if you have done part-time writing, or published articles in

trade journals or other recognized outlets).

Jerry

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In a message dated 8/13/00 4:11:50 AM Central Daylight Time,

egroups writes:

<< And what about insurance in case someone hollers? Is that

something to consider, or is it too expensive for a beginner like me?

Especially since I'm not going to be doing this on a " global " scale. >>

I guess it all depends on whether you think the assets you have are worth

protecting. If not, you wouldn't be bothered if someone sued you for a

million dollars. On the other hand, if you are attached to the possessions

you have (like your home etc), it's probably a good idea to protect yourself

and your lifestyle.

I personally would never risk these things, but each of us has our own value

system. You can usually find such insurance that costs, when averaged over a

year, only about $20.00 a month. Pretty good deal, if you ask me.

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In a message dated 8/14/00 6:31:05 PM Central Daylight Time,

egroups writes:

<< However, I was considering just doing it as a hobby

and maybe selling at some craft shows. Do I still need insurance? I'd

appreciate some imput on this. >>

You can be sued as a hobbiest or a professional. Take your pick. It won't

make a bit of difference to the guy who is suing you. The difference will

be whether he gets your house and everything you own or money from the

company who insures you. Not much a decision to me.

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Even if you sell at Craft shows you still need a business license and I

agree about the insurance.

http://RLI.com/

Go to their web page and email them for home based business. They will

email you back in a few days someone's name who will sell the RLI

insurance in your area. Mine was $210 including million $ coverage.

Joyce in Reno

MrsSmitch@... wrote:

> In a message dated 8/14/00 6:31:05 PM Central Daylight Time,

> egroups writes:

>

> << However, I was considering just doing it as a hobby

> and maybe selling at some craft shows. Do I still need insurance?

> I'd

> appreciate some imput on this. >>

>

>

> You can be sued as a hobbiest or a professional. Take your pick. It

> won't

> make a bit of difference to the guy who is suing you. The difference

> will

> be whether he gets your house and everything you own or money from the

>

> company who insures you. Not much a decision to me.

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> <egroups>

> From: " diana & steven " <bsr1508@...>

> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:44:46 -0500

> Subject: insurance

> Well...I'll just jump right in here, too. I have been in business for

> about three years. I had been concerned about insurance for a while, and

> hearing the quotes in the $200 range from other soapers, I thought I would

> investigate. I contacted RLI, got a name or two for an agent in a nearby

> town. The first guy I contacted got all the info...couldn't be reached for

> a couple of weeks (even though I was calling frequently) and finally

> admitted he lost all the info I had provided him...I gave it to him

> again...and he avoided my calls for another couple of weeks..so I figured he

> really didn't want my business. The next guy I called laughed at me...he

> said insurance of this type would cost more than I was making in a year.

> The third guy I called said he would look into it for me....and three months

> later, I still don't have a firm quote...although it would be in the range

> of $400.

>

> In my quests for insurance, I have found that even insurance from the same

> company might cost differently for soapers in other states...insurance rates

> vary from state to state, region to region. The cost will also differ

> depending on your income. And on they type of products you make (cp soap

> will be more expensive to insure than mp soaps).

>

> I am still seeking insurance...the last agent I contacted said he would have

> me a quote, if not a policy, by the end of the week....I won't hold my

> breath.

>

> Bell

> Bell Spring Products

>

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Question....

For those who have insurance...were you asked to give all your

products and all the ingredients to the company so they may analyze

each product? They also are asking for any future products and their

ingred. as well. Is this the correct procedure?

Thanks

Madelyn

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At 09:35 AM 8/16/00 +0000, you wrote:

>alpha1@...>

>Subject: Re: insurance

>

>Question....

>

>For those who have insurance...were you asked to give all your

>products and all the ingredients to the company so they may analyze

>each product? They also are asking for any future products and their

>ingred. as well. Is this the correct procedure?

>

>Thanks

>Madelyn

Hi Madelyn,

I didn't have to give any " specific " information about my product line to

my insurance company. I have insurance from RLI through a local Insurance

company.

I'm covered as a soap maker....they wouldn't touch me if I did candles.

They don't care what " process " I use to achieve my finished product.

I would NEVER disclose my recipes or any trade secrets....neither should

you (grin). Makes me suspicious that they'd ask you something like that.

Hope I could help . If you have more questions.....just ask :-D

Laurie

Luscious Lathers

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In a message dated 1/31/01 1:36:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,

writes:

<< what if someone gets a rash or is allergic to a

homemade bath and body product? I mean, what if I sell some bubble bath on

an eBay auction and someone buys it and uses it, then sues me because

they've broken out into a large, painful rash on their whole body??? By >>

Well your local insurance agent will help with that. Everyone that sells to

the public should be covered by insurance.

If your ingredients are posted and they know they are allergic its at their

own risk. I have had people break out from my products when I used cinnamon

(BTW don't try this at home!) as a fragrance for a holiday spice.

I happily exchanged for a different fragrance and gave them an extra bar of

soap or a bath bomb and they were tickled.

Good customer service is very imporatant if your gonna go into this e world.

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I am sure that most insurance companies have a small

business owner plan. My insurance is with Nationwide

and covers not only product liability issues (ie.

rashes, allergic reactions, etc.), but also accounts

receivables, inventory, shipping coverage to the point

of destination, database or intellectual property

(for instance, information lost due to disk crash)and

office equipment, etc.

There is a minimum coverage package which may be

overkill for some businesses, but it is worth taking a

look at it.

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Body Essentials, Inc.

www.bodyessentialsinc.com

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I haven't had one yet. I will keep hoping I am fortunate, or pay for it when it

happens.

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