Guest guest Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Tell your sister to join our Internet Thyroid Support Forum where we can help her. These tests are not enough, she needs to have her Free T3 tested and the tests to see whether she has antibodies to her thyroid. Especially as you have thyroid disease. Are there other members in your family who have a thyroid or autoimmune disease? She should also get her levels of iron, transferrin saturation%, ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc tested to see whether any of these are low in the range. If so, she will need to supplement with whatever is low because no amount of thyroid hormone can be fully utilised at the cellular level. You could always buy our new 'Thyroid Problems: The TPA Guidebook' and send it to her for her as an early (or late) Birthday/Christmas present. Luv - Sheila My Sis is struggling...would really appreciate some advice. Have sent results from her via email....she attends as I understand diabetes clinic and also sees an endo....south coast area. Help....jus want to see her happy and at optimal health Thyroid function test (X77Wg) Serum TSH level (XaELV) is " below range " 0.03mu?L (0.1-5.0) Serum free T4 level (XaERr) 16.0 pmol/L (9.0-21.) That is all it says, apart from who the provider is etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Thank you for your advice, I am seeing my GP on Tuesday and will take a copy of what you have said...I am hoping to be referred to the endocronology unit from there, I have been battling this out with my gp for nearly two years who has completely ignored me apart from putting my thyroxine up accordingly, now on 150mcg....thank you for all you do. Will return here once I have the necessary results. > > Tell your sister to join our Internet Thyroid Support Forum where we can > help her. These tests are not enough, she needs to have her Free T3 tested > and the tests to see whether she has antibodies to her thyroid. [Ed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 Thank you! I am the " sister " ....I have an apt. to see my gp again on Tuesday having been checked out by the surgery nurse for other problems...she sees my levels are low....I have been battling for referral to endocronology for two years, used to attend but moved area. Now on 150mcg of thyroxine but know things are not where they should be. Will take copy of what you advice to gp and hope I will have some action at last.!!!! Thank you for all you do. > > Tell your sister to join our Internet Thyroid Support Forum where we can > help her. These tests are not enough, she needs to have her Free T3 tested > and the tests to see whether she has antibodies to her thyroid. [Ed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 Hi 's sister - the following are associated conditions that go along with hypothyroidism and you should go through them by way of a process of elimination to ensure that none of these are the cause of your thyroxine not working as it should. Also, ask the GP to give you the blood tests mentioned and when the results are returned, post these together with the reference range for each test done onto the forum so we can help with their interpretation. All too often, doctors tell their patients their results are 'normal' if they appear anywhere within the range, but we need to know whether they are at the bottom, the middle or the top of the range, or even outside of the range. There are MANY medical conditions associated with thyroid disease that stop thyroid hormone from getting into the cells, where it does its work. I mention these over and over and over again - ad nauseum - people must be bored with the same old, same old but as each new member joins us, they need to know. The main condition responsible for stopping thyroid hormone from working, is, quite simply, a patients thyroxine dose is too low because the doctor or consultant refuses to increase it, because the serum thyroid function test results appear OK. Sometimes, the thyroxine dose is too high, yet patients still don't feel well. They continue to suffer. Some reasons for this: They may be suffering with low adrenal reserve. The production of T4, its conversion to T3, and the receptor uptake requires a normal amount of adrenal hormones, notably, of course, cortisone. (Excess cortisone can shut production down, however.) This is what happens if the adrenals are not responding properly, and provision of cortisone usually switches it on again. But sometimes it doesn’t. If the illness has been going on for a long time, the enzyme seems to fail. This conversion failure (inexplicably denied by many endocrinologists) means the thyroxine builds up, unconverted. So it doesn’t work, and T4 toxicosis results. This makes the patient feel quite unwell, toxic, often with palpitations and chest pain. If provision of adrenal support doesn’t remedy the situation, the final solution is the use of the active thyroid hormone, already converted, T3 - either synthetic or natural. Then, we have systemic candidiasis. This is where candida albicans, a yeast, which causes skin infections almost anywhere in the body, invades the lining of the lower part of the small intestine and the large intestine. Here, the candida sets up residence in the warmth and the dark, and demands to be fed. Loving sugars and starches, candida can make you suffer terrible sweet cravings. Candida can produce toxins which can cause very many symptoms of exhaustion, headache, general illness, and which interfere with the uptake of thyroid and adrenal treatment. Sometimes the levels - which we usually test for - can be very high, and make successful treatment difficult to achieve until adequately treated. Then there is receptor resistance which could be a culprit. Being hypothyroid for some considerable time may mean the biochemical mechanisms which permit the binding of T3 to the receptors, is downgraded - so the T3 won’t go in. With slow build up of T3, with full adrenal support and adequate vitamins and minerals, the receptors do come on line again. But this can be quite a slow process, and care has to be taken to build the dose up gradually. And then there are Food allergies. The most common food allergy is allergy to gluten, the protein fraction of wheat. The antibody generated by the body, by a process of molecular mimicry, cross reacts with the thyroperoxidase enzyme, (which makes thyroxine) and shuts it down. So allergy to bread can make you hypothyroid. There may be other food allergies with this kind of effect, but information on these is scanty. Certainly allergic response to certain foods can affect adrenal function and imperil thyroid production and uptake. Then we have hormone imbalances. The whole of the endocrine system is linked; each part of it needs the other parts to be operating normally to work properly. An example of this we have seen already, with cortisone. But another example is the operation of sex hormones. The imbalance that occurs at the menopause with progesterone running down, and a relative dominance of oestrogen is a further case in point – oestrogen dominance downgrades production, transportation and uptake of thyroid hormones. This is why hypothyroidism may first appear at the menopause; the symptoms ascribed to this alone, which is then treated – often with extra oestrogen, making the whole thing worse. Deficiency in progesterone most especially needs to be dealt with, since it reverses oestrogen dominance, improves many menopausal symptoms like sweats and mood swings, and reverses osteoporosis. Happily natural progesterone cream is easily obtained: when used it has the added benefit of helping to stabilise adrenal function. Then, we must never forget the possibility of mercury poisoning (through amalgam fillings), low levels of iron, ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc - all of which, if low, stop the thyroid hormone from being properly utilised at the cellular level and low levels MUST be treated. As Dr Peatfield says " When you have been quite unwell for a long time, all these problems have to be dealt with; and since each may affect the other, it all has to be done rather carefully. Contrary to cherished beliefs by much of the medical establishment, the correction of a thyroid deficiency state has a number of complexities and variables, which make the treatment usually quite specific for each person. The balancing of these variables is as much up to you as to your doctor – which is why a check of morning, day and evening temperatures and pulse rates, together with symptoms, good and bad, can be so helpful. Many of you have been ill for a long time, either because you have not been diagnosed, or the treatment leaves you still quite unwell. Those of you who have relatively mild hypothyroidism, and have been diagnosed relatively quickly, may well respond to synthetic thyroxine (T4), the standard treatment so you are unlikely to feel the need to see your doctor, since if the thyroxine proves satisfactory in use, it is merely a question of dosage. For many of you, the outstanding problem is not that the diagnosis has not been made – although, extraordinarily, this is disgracefully common – but that is has, and the thyroxine treatment doesn’t work. The dose has been altered up and down, and clinical improvement is variable and doesn’t last, in spite of blood tests, which say you are perfectly all right (and therefore you are actually depressed and need this fine antidepressant). The above problems must be eliminated if thyroid hormone isn't working for you. Luv - Sheila Thank you! I am the " sister " ....I have an apt. to see my gp again on Tuesday having been checked out by the surgery nurse for other problems...she sees my levels are low....I have been battling for referral to endocronology for two years, used to attend but moved area. Now on 150mcg of thyroxine but know things are not where they should be. Will take copy of what you advice to gp and hope I will have some action at last.!!!! Thank you for all you do. > > Tell your sister to join our Internet Thyroid Support Forum where we can > help her. These tests are not enough, she needs to have her Free T3 tested > and the tests to see whether she has antibodies to her thyroid. [Ed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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