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In a message dated 5/28/2003 10:26:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

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> Anita in Denver

> 11/08/01 Dr Keshishian

> 327lbs -> 182lbs today!

>

> Hooray for continued weight loss! Way to go Anita!

>

> Hugs and blessings, Ann

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heh, I work late, so I only got off work around 2am in the

morning :) I seem to vaguely remember about your labs now,so I guess

you're off the hook! *grins* That's stupid about that Gold Coast

rule..are you sure it's 2 dogs of any size ?? Maybe you're just not

allowed to have 2 big dogs ? Digger and Elly don't even make up one

big size dog together! I'm going rafting July 19th and then horse

back riding the next day..should be a great weekend :) I also don't

need to request the 'big' horse anymore, which is cool.

*hugs*

Anita in Denver

> Dont you ever sleep?!?!? It is 7pm here so it must be about 2am

there!!!

>

> Digger and Elly are well..thanks for asking.

>

> And, yes, I have already done the 1 year labs (thanks Mum!)

>

> Hope you are well too...been rafting lately?

>

> Hugs

> Kristy

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In a message dated 6/8/2003 11:00:20 PM Pacific Standard Time,

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> Ditto, I bought the Molokai! I haven't got it yet, but I should get it

> soon...only thing I didn't like is that I couldn't tell in the picture whether

it

> was knee length or mid-thigh, but I'll let you guys know when I get it :)

> Hopefully they come out with more colors once they get more business or we're

> all going to be wearing the same suits at Marta's pool party! (Not that I can

> make it this year, of course)

>

> *hugs*

>

> Anita in Denver

>

Anita,

I think it is just above the knee about 2 inches.

Anne in Santee

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Marta,

<prepare for a lecture>

DRINK PROTIEN DRINKS! All that fluid you are oozing and that is

puffing you up is high protein. (according to Dr. Fabio) and your

protein requirements are even HIGHER then 85 grams right now. We

dont want to compromise your healing!! Even though you feel pretty

good ... you have to take good care of yourself dammit :)

Practice good wound care!! (damn doctors make the worst patients!)

Wish i lived closer, I'd come over and change your bandages for ya.

I've become quite the little expert at it. Dryer you keep things,

the less that " T " will open..... Seriously, its worth the extra

effort NOW to keep things dry. As you know, things are mucho prone

to infection around necrotic skin since the blood supply sucks... and

then you add all that wetness on top of it...... Now do your best

to keep things dry!

</lecture off -- for now <grin>>

Glad to hear you are doing well. Saw your pics... hard to see the

results with your binder and everything. You do look puffy to me -

but that's all normal too. I was a couple inches bigger then what I

started after surgery. Know anyone that can do lymphatic massage

on you? It really helps that tight feeling and helps get rid of some

of the water. Feels marvy too. Specially if you can find a cute

guy to do it <grin>

Keep us updated....

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LOL..look..I'll even post a new picture to the files section just

for you (and Theresa and Rocky, Marta & Amy *grins*)

Love you!

P.S. I'm not wearing makeup, so I don't look all glamorous or

anything, but I can post the prettied up picture after my gala on

Saturday!

Anita (in Denver)

-- In , " moobabies2003 "

<moobabies@h...> wrote:

> Well look who Theresa beat out of the bushes for an update!!!

About

> time girl!

>

> Jo

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Ok, actually posted to the Photos section under Anita in Denver!

As for Rocky..rocks in a jar will eventually turn to dust sooner or

later..broken rocks is just the first step!

*hugs*

Anita

>

> > LOL..look..I'll even post a new picture to the files section

>

>

> Cant wait!!!!

> hugs,

> Rocky

> aka

> Sharon in Onyx

> whose rocks broke...can you believe it?

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> P.S. I'm not wearing makeup, so I don't look all glamorous or

> anything, but I can post the prettied up picture after my gala on

> Saturday!

>

> Anita (in Denver)

========================

You looked pretty to me!!! I'll bet at your gala you'll DAZZLE!

Jo

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Thank you...hopefully I'll surprise a few co-workers since I only

wear pants to work :)

*hugs*

Anita in Denver

> > P.S. I'm not wearing makeup, so I don't look all glamorous or

> > anything, but I can post the prettied up picture after my gala on

> > Saturday!

> >

> > Anita (in Denver)

> ========================

>

> You looked pretty to me!!! I'll bet at your gala you'll DAZZLE!

>

> Jo

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Thank you...hopefully I'll surprise a few co-workers since I only

wear pants to work :)

*hugs*

Anita in Denver

> > P.S. I'm not wearing makeup, so I don't look all glamorous or

> > anything, but I can post the prettied up picture after my gala on

> > Saturday!

> >

> > Anita (in Denver)

> ========================

>

> You looked pretty to me!!! I'll bet at your gala you'll DAZZLE!

>

> Jo

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Anita, look at you! You look just beautiful! What a difference,

even from your 1 year post op picture! I'm so impressed!

Tracey

> Ok, actually posted to the Photos section under Anita in Denver!

>

> *hugs*

> Anita

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Anita,

It is NOT against the law to NOT vaccinate your child. How can this be

ordered? Did you read the quote in the post about the 11 thrown in jail

(foreign country) for refusing to have their children vaxxed for polio?

When I had to go to court to get my dd back from my parents (they had

temporary custody but were trying to make it permanent) they brough this up

(she's unvaxxed). The judge said " Unfortunately, that's not against the law

.. This was, oh,15 years ago in a small county but the principle is still

the same. There should be a good antivax lawter somewhere in NY that can

help you. Contact the NYVIC (you'll ahve to do a search as I don't have

their site stored).

" When we give government

the power to make medical decisions

for us, we, in essence, accept that

the state owns our bodies. "

~U.S.Representative Ron , MD

The Nuremberg Code (to which NZ is a signatory) describes Informed Choice

as:

- A choice made on the basis of adequate information concerning research and

all available alternatives.

- A choice made without controlling influences such as force, fraud, deceit,

duress, over-reaching or other forms of constraint or coercion.

Does this not apply to us?

Laurie>Oh

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Laurie,

Would you refresh my mind about what I said that you are responding to? I don't

see the previous message and you put my name in the subject box. Is it about the

gal in Mass?

Thanks,

Anita

BirthWarrior <llandes1@...> wrote:

Anita,

It is NOT against the law to NOT vaccinate your child. How can this be

ordered? Did you read the quote in the post about the 11 thrown in jail

(foreign country) for refusing to have their children vaxxed for polio?

When I had to go to court to get my dd back from my parents (they had

temporary custody but were trying to make it permanent) they brough this up

(she's unvaxxed). The judge said " Unfortunately, that's not against the law

.. This was, oh,15 years ago in a small county but the principle is still

the same. There should be a good antivax lawter somewhere in NY that can

help you. Contact the NYVIC (you'll ahve to do a search as I don't have

their site stored).

" When we give government

the power to make medical decisions

for us, we, in essence, accept that

the state owns our bodies. "

~U.S.Representative Ron , MD

The Nuremberg Code (to which NZ is a signatory) describes Informed Choice

as:

- A choice made on the basis of adequate information concerning research and

all available alternatives.

- A choice made without controlling influences such as force, fraud, deceit,

duress, over-reaching or other forms of constraint or coercion.

Does this not apply to us?

Laurie>Oh

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Laurie

I'm still waiting for info on your post to Anita. In the meantime, I thought I

would comment on what you said.

I don't think they call vaccinations compulsory and mandatory for no reason. Law

is a synonym for mandate. You are required, not suggested to, but mandated to

vax your children BEFORE they enter school.

I was nervous the first time I had to use my religious exemption so I called the

NYS Vaccination Program in Albany. I was lucky enough to speak with

the Director. He was more agreeable than I anticipated. I asked him if there was

an official exemption form; he said no. I told him that a friend of mine was

unable to register her unvaxed children without an exemption. What I didn't tell

him was that her husband is a chiropractor and had a neurologist friend of his

write a bogus medical exemption (which the school accepted more readily than a

religious one). Mr. went on to explain that there MUST be an exemption on

file at the school for auditting purposes and if I had trouble with mine; I

could give him a call. She was up against the public school system; I was not.

In 1987, a famous N.Y. case was ruled by Judge Wexler. Two families were using

religious exemptions in the same (I believe) school district and they were both

contested by the district. These families had to prove that their life-styles

and histories jibed with their 'religious beliefs'. One family made it and the

other was MANDATED to vax their children in order to attend school. Granted that

was eighteen years ago, but to my knowledge, you can't just stroll into a school

with your unvaxed children and expect them to attend without some sort of LEGAL

exemption. It sounds like you had an especially liberal judge in your case OR

your daughter was of pre-school age which WOULD in fact be legal. Was she under

5yrs? By the way, yes; our state does have good attorneys to defend our rights

regarding vaccinations.

Thanks,

Anita

BirthWarrior <llandes1@...> wrote:

Anita,

It is NOT against the law to NOT vaccinate your child. How can this be

ordered? Did you read the quote in the post about the 11 thrown in jail

(foreign country) for refusing to have their children vaxxed for polio?

When I had to go to court to get my dd back from my parents (they had

temporary custody but were trying to make it permanent) they brough this up

(she's unvaxxed). The judge said " Unfortunately, that's not against the law

.. This was, oh,15 years ago in a small county but the principle is still

the same. There should be a good antivax lawter somewhere in NY that can

help you. Contact the NYVIC (you'll ahve to do a search as I don't have

their site stored).

" When we give government

the power to make medical decisions

for us, we, in essence, accept that

the state owns our bodies. "

~U.S.Representative Ron , MD

The Nuremberg Code (to which NZ is a signatory) describes Informed Choice

as:

- A choice made on the basis of adequate information concerning research and

all available alternatives.

- A choice made without controlling influences such as force, fraud, deceit,

duress, over-reaching or other forms of constraint or coercion.

Does this not apply to us?

Laurie>Oh

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She was just over 2 at the time so that may have been an issue. Still, it

is NOT against the law NOT to vax BUT if one uses a school system (private

or public) the the vaxxes ARE required UNLESS there is an exemption. So, if

one homeschools and never vaxxes, they are NOT breaking the law. And from

what I understand from the NYVIC site, they are no longer allowed to

question one's religious beliefs. I'm imagining every school district has

their own Board of Health one can go to and get a copy of the exemption form

if the school does not have one. I have considered making phony vax records

for all my children and having dh validate them...it would be so much

simpler;however, I want to let others know I put my money where my mouth is

and not show fear.

Laurie>Oh

I don't think they call vaccinations compulsory and mandatory for no reason.

Law is a synonym for mandate. You are required, not suggested to, but

mandated to vax your children BEFORE they enter school.

to my knowledge, you can't just stroll into a school with your unvaxed

children and expect them to attend without some sort of LEGAL exemption. It

sounds like you had an especially liberal judge in your case OR your daughter

was of pre-school age which WOULD in fact be legal. Was she under 5yrs?

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Laurie,

It is better to fight the beast straight on than allow it to compromise your

values and put you in a more dangerous position (as would happen for falsifying

records). As for obtaining an exemption form; that is not necessary. A simple

written statement would suffice though the form does look more official. I have

a great looking one written by an attorney that was given to me by a

chiropractor I used long ago. You are right about not having to vax a

homeschooled child until the day comes you want to send them to camp or some

other private function that requires them. I got my son into cub-scout camp

using the xemp.form, but they did have the power to deny him or give me a

terribly hard time if they wanted to. I have been very lucky so far and I wish

you the same for the sake of your children.

Anita

BirthWarrior <llandes1@...> wrote:

She was just over 2 at the time so that may have been an issue. Still, it

is NOT against the law NOT to vax BUT if one uses a school system (private

or public) the the vaxxes ARE required UNLESS there is an exemption. So, if

one homeschools and never vaxxes, they are NOT breaking the law. And from

what I understand from the NYVIC site, they are no longer allowed to

question one's religious beliefs. I'm imagining every school district has

their own Board of Health one can go to and get a copy of the exemption form

if the school does not have one. I have considered making phony vax records

for all my children and having dh validate them...it would be so much

simpler;however, I want to let others know I put my money where my mouth is

and not show fear.

Laurie>Oh

I don't think they call vaccinations compulsory and mandatory for no reason.

Law is a synonym for mandate. You are required, not suggested to, but

mandated to vax your children BEFORE they enter school.

to my knowledge, you can't just stroll into a school with your unvaxed

children and expect them to attend without some sort of LEGAL exemption. It

sounds like you had an especially liberal judge in your case OR your daughter

was of pre-school age which WOULD in fact be legal. Was she under 5yrs?

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Anita,

I know you will be in good hands with Dr. Richter. He is one of the top doctors in the world for performing dilatations, and he would have been my first choice if I was on the east coast. I was very scared to have a dilatation, but ended up finding there was nothing to be afraid of. I didn't perforate and there was no pain involved except for a very slight discomfort for about a day afterwards...I just wish it would have been successful. They used the middle sized dilator on me and I could go back in for the next size larger, but I think I might wait awhile.

I wish you great success!

Let us know how it goes!

Sandi

-------------- Original message -------------- > Thank you so much for the information, . I'm feeling not as > nervous about the proceduce now that you explained it to me. My > cousin, who is also a doctor wants me to have a feeding tube before > the procedure as I am very thin and he thinks I might not recover if > there is a complication like perforation. Dr. Richter does not want > to do a feeding tube, so I will do what he wants, even though my > cousin has frightened me. > Peggy thank you for your comforting words. > , I wish you a successful surgery and a speedy recovery. I will > be thinking and praying for you on the 20th. > Peggy I'm glad you are doing well after your surgery and hope you > continue to do so for a very long time. > Thank you both again. > Hugs, > Anita > > > > > >

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Good luck with the dilation. I am sure that it will go great for you. I

was lucky in some way I had no time to think about it when it was

booked and had it the next day.

You will be in my thoughts on 17th Anita.

All the best

>

> Ann, I live in the USA in the state of Pennsylvania in the suburbs of

> Philadelphia. Where do you live?

> Hayley, thanks for the information. It has been a great help.

> , I will be thinking and praying for you on the 20th. A speedy

> recovery to you and I hope you can eat all the foods you love.

> I will be having my dilatation on the 17th of Oct. Will let you know

> how it goes.

> Hugs,

> Anita

>

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Thanks,

My daughter should get home tomorrow. We just got home yesterday

ourselves.She is still pretty weak and not eating too much. She was on

a lot of morphine and made her feel real nausious. It is such a releif

to get home to her.

We got off the plane and went straight to her. The reception staff we

not going to let me to start as it was not visiting hours. I sucked it

in- it was the last straw. Pointed out she is a junior and has gone

through all this without her parents and we have been away for surgery

as well and I pretty much wanted to see her. When the nurse came out

she was so wonderful and took us straight through, she was expecting us

and knew Tamara needed us. I don't get ruffled much but I was so

exhausted I would have been if I couldn't see her.

My Mother and Sister have been so great looking after both my girls in

our absence, it has been tough on the whole family, but what would we

do without them, eh?

My knee is doing pretty good. I now have 95deg already. I can feel it

has elasticity and is trying to go further, whereas before it did not.

Thw swelling is coming down. I now have to do my physio 3-5 times a day

for it and see the physiotherapist 3 times a week. These next weeks are

crucial to get it moving. The doctor drey more blood out of it

yesterday and put a cortisone in and it is so much better for it today.

I can walk with a little more ease.

Dr Bessell is really happy with the myotomy result. He said I was one

of the more worse A cases he has seen, but surgery went to plan.

Just got to try to take it easy now a recover.

My fmaily are glad the worst is behind us and thank you all for you

kind words and thought.

>

> I'm so happy that your surgery was a success. I was thinking about

> you all day on the 20th and hoping for the best. Isn't it great to

be

> able to eat again even if it is pureed? Please let us know how you

> are doing. I'm so glad that both your surgeries were successful.

> Hugs,

> Anita

>

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Hello and Thankyou. Every day is getter better. I am moving around

much better and can get some jobs done around the house. Little by

little. My daughter is improving each day. She is stress that she is

behind in her schoool work but that can not be helped. She will start

addressing that from home this week. It is a busy time of year with

exams soon. She is preparing for the big year 12 next year.

I am getting less spasms which is so great. After surgery they were out

of control. I am eating good. I am starting to feel that I am getting

my life back and that is a wonderful feeling. Prior to surgery it was a

matter of just coping with each day.

Thankyou for you thoughts.

>

> I'm so glad you are home and feeling better. I hope your daughter is

> feeling better. How great that your mother and sister were there for

> your daughter. Rest and get well soon and hopefully you will be

> eating all your favorite foods soon. Please let us know how you and

> your daughter are doing.

> Hugs,

> Anita

>

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I live in Brighton and work at U of M Hospital. What a small world,

Nostrant is my doc for the last almost six years. I've been pretty

happy with him but haven't been able to really get a definitive

diagnosis as to the motility disorder. I belive the surgery he was

talking about is called the Stretta procedure. It's very non-invasive,

requires no cutting, and is done through the esophagoscope. From what

I understand, they cauterize the area around your lower esophageal

sphincter. In fact, this procedure is why I contacted Dr. Nostrant in

the first place. I heard about it on the news and they gave his name

as one of the few surgeons who was performing it. However, becuase of

my other problems (bloating, motility) I was not a good candidate for

it. For someone who suffers only from GERD, I believe it would be a

very good procedure. I like nostrant, but am frustrated with no

definite diagnosis re: the motility disorder. All he's ever diagnosed

me with is GERD. I read on the board that someone was given Zelnorm,

and Dr. N did prescribe that for me, becuase he thought it could help

with the motility, spasms (which I do have if I forgot to mention

that) and even the bloating by moving things along better. However,

since I have a problem with loose bowels off and on (ever since I had

my gallbladder out), I was afraid to try it, because one of the side

effects can be diarrhea. However, after reading that someone else

felt much better after taking it, I just may give it a try. Hope some

of my info is helpful. Keep me posted on your progress.

Anita

>

> Anita,

> Where in Michigan are you located? We are in the Detroit area.

> At U of M, my husband saw Dr. Nostrandt, who is supposed to be the

> esophagus expert there. One of the members on this board had a bad

> experience with him in the past. My husband didn't care for him

> (although he did come up with a diagnosis) because he didn't seem to

> realize how his problem wasn't responding to Botox or lifestyle

> changes. Before the motility tests, he told my husband there is a

> surgery to treat GERD (probably fundo wrap or the one

> mentioned), but he said that if you have a motility problem, it could

> make you miserable. Did U of M do the manometries? My husband

> started with one at Troy Beaumont Hospital and I don't think it was

> very accurate, or it could've been that his condition was still

> evolving at the time. U of M's was much more accurate (more sensitive

> equipment), but their tech wasn't very pleasant. I hope they can give

> you an accurate diagnosis (GERD or motility disorder) before long so

> you can work on getting the right treatment. Good luck!

>

>

> wife of , with DES, in SE Michigan

>

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Anita Kittell wrote:

> ... I was afraid to try it, because one of the side

> effects can be diarrhea. ...

Even if it does at first cause this problem, it may be worth trying

longer. The body has ways to adjust to changes in what we eat, and that

includes medication. So, often these kind of side effects are only until

you adjust to the change. There are no guarantees, but don't give up too

soon.

notan

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Anita,

Great...I m relieved to read this..

Hopefully,bimal will never need it future but I was always worried about

manometry test..

Mukesh

Robyn

I had 2 mammometries and they weren't bad at all. The first one I had

no gagging at all. The second one was done when I was having an

endoscopy. Good luck and don't worry. Please keep us informed.

Big Hugs,

Anita

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YES WELCOME HOME!!

HERES TO A SPEEDY RECOVERY AND LOTS OF YUMMY FOOD!!!TAKE CARE AND GET

WELL-POST WHEN YOU CAN

TONIA

>

> Welcome home! I know it will take time to regain your strength, but

we

> look forward to hearing from you as you recover.

>

> Jo in Southwest Michigan

>

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