Re: Posted from Chat for: Lynz318is

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Hi lynz

i'm glad you joined honey , these people will help you big time as they are

helping me,

by the way everyone lynz is a very very close friend of mine and its hard to see

her suffer the way i have been doing, she's seeing an endo in september , but

she needs the right tools, i can do alot for her but everyone elses expertise is

very much valued

love sha xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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lol sorry and thank you

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Hi Lynz:

There are two good videos up on our blog which may be very helpful:

http://thinkthyroid.blogspot.com/

If you get a chance to check them out...give you a laugh too.

Cheers,

JOT

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Hi Lynsey

You don't have to keep on suffering like this. I have sent you

my list of recommended doctors by our members, pick one you would like to see

and ask your GP to refer you to him/her - even if it is way outside of your

area.

Now is the time to write a letter to your GP sending a copy to

the Head of Practice and keeping a copy of your letter yourself.

Tell your GP that after all of these years, you are no longer

prepared to put up with your many symptoms and signs on the same dose of L-thyroxine

that has not been changed in 13 years and that you are now determined to do

whatever is possible to find out the true cause of your symptoms and that you

would like your doctor to work with you to do whatever is possible to find the

cause.

First, list all of your symptoms and signs - every single one of

them. (Check these Signs'. Signs are things that others can actually see).

Next, take your basal temperature in a morning before getting

out of bed. List these if they are 97.8 degrees F (36.6 degrees C or less).

Next, list every member of your family who has a thyroid or

autoimmune disease.

Next, list the following full thyroid function tests you need

and ask for the results to be made available to you together with the reference

range for each test done once these have been returned. These tests must include

TSH, free T4, free T3, TPO and Tg Antibodies.

Next, list the following specific minerals and vitamins that you

need testing to see if any of these are low in the reference range. Tell the

doctor that there is much evidence available that shows if any of these are

low, thyroid hormone cannot be fully utilised at the cellular level. These are

:ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc. (See

list of references below that you might wish to print off to show your doctor

if he is not aware of the connection between these and low thyroid).Again,

ask for sight of these results with the reference range. (A doctor cannot

withhold such information that is in your medical case notes - and you do not

have to give a reason why you need these results. When you have them, please

post them on the forum so that we can help with their interpretation).

Next, ask your doctor if you can have a trial of another 25mcgs

of levothyroxine or better still, a trial of the active thyroid hormone T3

adding to your T4.

Copy off the attached document and enclose it with your letter

and ask your doctor to read through the content and give you his comments.

Devour the contents of this document too to see if any of the associated

conditions it mentions might apply to you. Tell the doctor that you now wish to

be referred to an endocrinologist of your choice (you don't have to see the

one at your local hospital, especially if their speciality is not thyroid -

most endocrinologists have their specialty in diabetes and many know little

about thyroid disease and it's associated conditions.)

Last, ask your GP if you could make a double appointment with

him/her so that you can both discuss this matter and decide on a way forward.

Ask for your letter of request to be placed into your medical

notes. Send a copy to the Head of Practice, keeping a copy yourself.

Meanwhile, I have sent a list of our recommended doctors to you.

Keep asking questions Lynsey and we will try to put you on the

right road, which I am sure we can. There is light at the end of the tunnel,

and yours appears to have been a particularly long and dark one.

Luv - Sheila

LOW LEVELS OF SPECIFIC MINERALS AND VITAMINS AND THEIR

ASSOCIATION WITH HYPOTHYROIDISM

Low

iron/ferritin:

Iron deficiency is shown to significantly reduce T4 to T3 conversion, increase

reverse T3 levels, and block the thermogenic (metabolism boosting) properties

of thyroid hormone (1-4). Thus, iron deficiency, as indicated by an iron

saturation below 25 or a ferritin below 70, will result in diminished

intracellular T3 levels. Additionally, T4 should not be considered adequate

thyroid replacement if iron deficiency is present (1-4)).

1.

Dillman E, Gale C, Green W, et al. Hypothermia in iron

deficiency due to altered triiodithyroidine metabolism. Regulatory, Integrative

and Comparative Physiology 1980;239(5):377-R381.

2.

SM, PE, Lukaski HC. In vitro hepatic

thyroid hormone deiodination in iron-deficient rats: effect of dietary fat.

Life Sci 1993;53(8):603-9.

3.

Zimmermann MB, Köhrle J. The Impact of Iron and Selenium

Deficiencies on Iodine and Thyroid Metabolism: Biochemistry and Relevance to

Public Health. Thyroid 2002;12(10): 867-78.

4.

Beard J, tobin B, Green W. Evidence for Thyroid Hormone Deficiency

in Iron-Deficient Anemic Rats. J. Nutr. 1989;119:772-778.

Low vitamin B12: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18655403

Low vitamin D3: http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/113/3/329

and http://www.goodhormonehealth.com/VitaminD.pdf

Low magnesium: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC292768/pdf/jcinvest00264-0105.pdf

Low folate: http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/47/9/1738

and http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/thy.1999.9.1163

Low  copper http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm

http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/copper_toxicity_syndrome.htm

http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm

http://www.rjpbcs.com/pdf/2011_2(2)/68.pdf

http://ajplegacy.physiology.org/content/171/3/652.extract

Low zinc:http://www.istanbul.edu.tr/ffdbiyo/current4/07%20Iham%20AM%C4%B0R.pdf

and http://articles.webraydian.com/article1648-Role_of_Zinc_and_Copper_in_Effective_Thyroid_Function.html

Ferritin levels for women need to be between 100

AND 130 (for men around between 150 and 170)

Vitamin B12 needs to be at the top of the

range.

D3 levels need to be about 50.

Magnesium levels need to be at the top of the

range,

hi my names lynsey i am now 26 and been suffering since i was 13 they said i

was

one of the youngest at that time i been on the same meds the whole time too

which is 50 mg and i am so poorly i wanna give up, tridness,headache,skin

probs,eyes,moods,lack of energy,now v bad back problems,hay fever and the list

keeps going.

i am working full time but now after four month i have to sleep in my hours

lunchbreack i have now stopped riding my dream horse cos im always sleep and

knacked.

i am due to get married next year i i cant see it happening as i am not gonna

be

a fat bride

please help

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wow videos ar great would someone be so kind and print all this off and all the

bits on vit etcs so i can read propberly my eyes feeling like i have glass in

them ill pay someone plz plz

xxxx

good advise i need to get it all printed and write every thing down

ahhh help at last

xxxx

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> You don't have to keep on suffering like this. I have sent you my list of

> recommended doctors by our members, pick one you would like to see and ask

> your GP to refer you to him/her - even if it is way outside of your area.

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Hi babe

i will do all that tomorrow for you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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