Isocort

[Guest guest]

Hi Rosemarie,

Dr S said the same thing to me saying that once the level of thyroid treatment

is right the adrenals will sort themselves out. I have to say he's been right

about everything else with me so I'm happy to go along with what he says, but

you will need to come to your own conclusion about what you think is best for

you.

Dawn

- Dr Skinner he said not to bother with adrenal support, very confusing,,

>

> Rosemarie

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn, this is more or less what has been telling us too,

but peeps still need to check their adrenal function before starting thyroid

hormone replacement if they have the symptoms, plus low temperature and boost

them if needed. I do agree that people find it too easy to start taking HC and

should never do this unless it is under medical supervision and they have been

diagnosed with adrenal insufficiency or 's disease.

Luv - Sheila

Hi Rosemarie,

Dr S said the same thing to me saying that once the level of thyroid treatment

is right the adrenals will sort themselves out. I have to say he's been right

about everything else with me so I'm happy to go along with what he says, but

you will need to come to your own conclusion about what you think is best for

you.

Dawn

- Dr Skinner he said not to bother with adrenal support, very confusing,,

>

> Rosemarie

[Guest guest]

Can you let me know if any of our members are using Isocort

and if so, what you think about this product. Also, how many tablets do you

need and what is the usual dosage most people take. Is there a limit to how

much Isocort you can take daily. I know very little about this product.

Luv - Sheila

[Guest guest]

I have used Isocort for years...I love it.

http://www.iherb.com/Bezwecken-Inc-IsoCort-Adrenal-Support-240-Pellets/30335?at=\

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(scroll down on link to read all ingredients, etc.)

Description

Herbal Supplement

Isocort is designed to provide adrenal support for the those who have adrenal

fatigue or reduced cortisol levels. IsoCort is a freeze dried adrenal cortex

extract containing synergistic herbs medium chain triglycerides.

Isocort provides relief from reduced cortisol production which can result in

many symptoms including, fatigue, difficulty getting up in the morning, food

cravings, allergies, anxiety, and lack of energy. Isocort provides a

standardized dose of the adreno-cortical substance (Cortisol) to supplement

adrenal function.

For questions or concerns regarding products from this brand, please contact

iHerb's Registered Nurse, Gwen: healthpro@...

Suggested Use

Take 1-2 pellets up to 3 times daily with meal or as recommended by your health

care practitioner. Not to exceed 8 pellets daily.

Supplement Facts

Supplement Facts

Serving Size: 1 Pellet

Amount Per Serving %DV

Proprietary Blend:

Fermented Plant Derived Cortisol, echinacea purpurea 6.0mg *

Daily Value (DV) not established.

Other Ingredients

Lactose, magnesium stearate, starch arrowroth, maltodextrin, microcrystalline

cellulose, magnesium silicate, lactase.

IT IS SAID THAT EACH TABLETS CONTAINS ABOUT 2.5 MGS OF CORTISOL BUT SOMEONE

TESTED THIS AND DECIDED THAT IT WAS MORE LIKE 1.5 MGS OF CORTISOL. IT IS ALSO

RECOMMENDED THAT YOU ONLY TAKE 8 A DAY, BUT MANY PEOPLE TAKE MORE BECAUSE OF THE

CORTISOL AMOUNT.

ISOCORT HAS JUST RECENTLY CHANGED TO AN *ALL PLANT* PRODUCT, THEY CHANGED THIS

IN EARLY 2011.

I HAVE NOT YET OPENED MY NEW BOTTLE WITH THE NEW FORMULA, BUT WILL BE DOING THAT

IN A FEW DAYS TIME. I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF IT IS JUST AS GOOD AS THE PREVIOUS

FORMULA.

Cheers,

JOT

> Can you let me know if any of our members are using Isocort and if so, what

> you think about this product. Also, how many tablets do you need and what is

> the usual dosage most people take. Is there a limit to how much Isocort you

> can take daily. I know very little about this product.

>

>

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

[Guest guest]

Just thought I'd add this link too.. Bezwecken is the name of the company which

makes Isocort. They also make a number of cremes, pellets, etc., for menopause

symptoms....progesterone creme, etc. It's always been a very respectable

company.

http://www.iherb.com/Search?kw=bezwecken

Cheers,

JOT

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila,

I used to use this but at the moment just use hc. I remember one person on one of the US groups saying that some doctor or other that she saw had this tested and each pellet contained about 1mg of hc rather than the 2.5 that people often think that they contain. Eventually I may use this to reduce my hc or perhaps to come off of hc if I ever feel able to do so. It says on the container to not take more than 8 pellets per day but that may be to not have enough hc to become dependant on it.

Val

Can you let me know if any of our members are using Isocort and if so, whatyou think about this product. Also, how many tablets do you need and what isthe usual dosage most people take. Is there a limit to how much Isocort youcan take daily. I know very little about this product.Luv - Sheila

[Guest guest]

Well, I've been taking my Isocort (new forumulation)

for 3 days now and it's like taking nothing..... I'm not sure what the hecks in

it but I don't think there is any cortisol at all.

I only take Isocort in the Summer months because my body suffers in the heat. It

goes up to 100* F here so the adrenals take a beating. I only used 2-3 isocort

pellets per day and that seemed to help tremendously, but this new formulation

does nothing for me at all. I'm sad about this because the old formula of

Isocort was perfect for me, because I use such small amounts.

I broke down and ordered some generic cortef today ...it's the first time I've

ever had to do that... :0( I will only have to use 2-3 mgs a day but at

least I will have a product which actually has cortisol in it.

I would be interested to hear how others get on with the new formula..

Cheers,

JOT

[Guest guest]

Have you considered writing to the manufacturers Jot and asking

them to spell out for you the changes they have made to the new formulae. This

sounds like Armour when we eventually found that when Forest change the

formulae, they removed some of the dextrose and added more cellulose, so people

could no longer take it sublingually, and for a lot of folk, the potency had

reduced considerably.

Luv - Sheila

Well, I've been taking my Isocort (new forumulation)

for 3 days now and it's like taking nothing..... I'm not sure what the hecks in

it but I don't think there is any cortisol at all.

I only take Isocort in the Summer months because my body suffers in the heat.

It goes up to 100* F here so the adrenals take a beating. I only used 2-3

isocort pellets per day and that seemed to help tremendously, but this new

formulation does nothing for me at all. I'm sad about this because the old

formula of Isocort was perfect for me, because I use such small amounts.

I broke down and ordered some generic cortef today ...it's the first time I've

ever had to do that... :0( I will only have to use 2-3 mgs a day but at least I

will have a product which actually has cortisol in it.

I would be interested to hear how others get on with the new formula..

Cheers,

JOT

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila:

Yes, I will write to them and tell them about my own experience and ask why they

felt the formula needed to change. I am concerned about people who find they

don't have any other alternatives. I can easily buy cortisol in 1mg tablets so

I'm not so concerned about it, and I can always cut them down if needed...

Cheers,

JOT

> Have you considered writing to the manufacturers Jot and asking them to

> spell out for you the changes they have made to the new formulae. This

> sounds like Armour when we eventually found that when Forest change the

> formulae, they removed some of the dextrose and added more cellulose, so

> people could no longer take it sublingually, and for a lot of folk, the

> potency had reduced considerably.

>

> Luv - Sheila

[Guest guest]

Have you thought of cortisol cream you can buy at chemists with

2.5% HC JOT? Would that work for you?

Luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila:

Yes, I will write to them and tell them about my own experience and ask why

they felt the formula needed to change. I am concerned about people who find

they don't have any other alternatives. I can easily buy cortisol in 1mg

tablets so I'm not so concerned about it, and I can always cut them down if

needed...

Cheers,

JOT

[Guest guest]

Yes, I have looked at them also and am considering them if the tablets cause me

grief. My concern with the cream is that hormonal creams can stick around in the

fatty tissues and cause some problems after a while. Not always, and not

everyone, but since I take bioidentical testosterone, progesterone and

estradiol, I need to be careful about that.

As it is, one week of the month, every month, I do not take any bioidentical

hormones at all. Gives the body a much needed rest and time to re-group. I know

many people don't do this and I wish they would, it would be much healthier for

them. I also know that DHEA should be taken one month on and one month off, but

people don't follow those rules either. Women should only take 5 mgs or 10 mgs

of DHEA, 3 days a week. No more, but we have women taking 25 mgs or more

everyday.......

Cheers,

JOT

> Have you thought of cortisol cream you can buy at chemists with 2.5% HC JOT?

> Would that work for you?

>

> Luv - Sheila

[Guest guest]

I have been taking Isocort since May.  I have read some claim there  is " no " cortisol in Isocort for obscure FDA disapproval, but I think such an opinion is unfounded and question the reasons for such opinions.

I never was on " old " Isocort, so I cannot compare it.I have felt a definite effect from Isocort, which I usually take:  4,3,2,2 or 11 per day.  Sometimes I " stress dose " and take more if I notice that I am shooting adrenalin under some anxiety or fear. 

I have put on much weight from Isocort. Further, I am developing a bit of a buffalo hump and a swollen, puffy face.  All the symptoms are Cushingoid. To me,, that defies the opinion that " there is no cortisol " in Isocort.

Hope this helps Sheila.

[Guest guest]

You shouldn't then be taking Isocort if you are developing the

buffalo hump and swollen puffy face associated with Cushing's syndrome. Have

you talked to your doctor about this and asked to have an ACTH test done?

Thanks for this information though, many just take adrenal supplements without

really knowing what they do or the effect they might have on them.

Luv - Sheila

I have been taking Isocort since May. I

have read some claim there is " no " cortisol in Isocort for

obscure FDA disapproval, but I think such an opinion is unfounded and question

the reasons for such opinions.

I never was on " old " Isocort, so I cannot compare it.

I have felt a definite effect from Isocort, which I usually take: 4,3,2,2

or 11 per day. Sometimes I " stress dose " and take more if I

notice that I am shooting adrenalin under some anxiety or fear.

I have put on much weight from Isocort. Further, I am developing a bit of a

buffalo hump and a swollen, puffy face. All the symptoms are Cushingoid.

To me,, that defies the opinion that " there is no cortisol " in

Isocort.

Hope this helps Sheila.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the input Sheila.  I did post to counter the occasional claim that Isocort contains no cortisone.  My saliva tests showed low cortisol thus a " need " to take it with my T3.  I do try to cut down, (e.g., I took only 3 an that was at 5 a.m.) but it's a slow progress.  I'm upping my T3 at the same time.

No, I'm not up for an ACTH test.  I do not have Cushing's, just Cushingoid but thanks so much for the idea. If I don't clear up in time, I'll reconsider.I do wonder if my weight gain and other cushingoid symptoms would have been the same had I taken prednisone or prednisolone or even dexamethasone.  We'll never know if this is a purely Isocort complication for me or if I would react the same to all forms.

QDOn Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Sheila <sheila@...> wrote:

 

You shouldn't then be taking Isocort if you are developing the

buffalo hump and swollen puffy face associated with Cushing's syndrome. Have

you talked to your doctor about this and asked to have an ACTH test done?

Thanks for this information though, many just take adrenal supplements without

really knowing what they do or the effect they might have on them.

Luv - Sheila

 

I have been taking Isocort since May.  I

have read some claim there  is " no " cortisol in Isocort for

obscure FDA disapproval, but I think such an opinion is unfounded and question

the reasons for such opinions.

I never was on " old " Isocort, so I cannot compare it.

I have felt a definite effect from Isocort, which I usually take:  4,3,2,2

or 11 per day.  Sometimes I " stress dose " and take more if I

notice that I am shooting adrenalin under some anxiety or fear. 

I have put on much weight from Isocort. Further, I am developing a bit of a

buffalo hump and a swollen, puffy face.  All the symptoms are Cushingoid.

To me,, that defies the opinion that " there is no cortisol " in

Isocort.

Hope this helps Sheila.

__

[Guest guest]

HI QD

Reading Janie's Stop The Thyroid Madness http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/isocort/

, she too writes

Isocort has changed! As of early 2011, Bezwecken

changed the product from a bovine adrenal cortex to a fermented

plant-derived cortisol, joining over 100 other chemical substances which are

plant derived.

Why has Isocort always been popular with

thyroid/adrenal patients and their doctors? For

years, patients and their doctors favored Isocort because unlike so many other

adrenal support products on the over-the-counter market, it was made solely

from the adrenal cortex, i.e from New Zealand sheep. That is an important

distinction since the cortex only contains cortisol as compared to whole

adrenal glandular products which contain both cortisol and adrenaline

(epinephrine). And giving yourself more adrenaline was the last thing you would

want as an adrenally-challenged, low cortisol individual. Dysfunctional

adrenals already cause the production of too much adrenaline as it is,

resulting in anxiety, an increased heartrate and further stress on your

already-stressed adrenals.

Will this change to plant derived affect the way

Isocort works in me? Hopefully not.

As before, it only contains cortisol and avoids the unneeded adrenaline

that you get from “adrenal glandulars”.

What’s in the newly-reformulated IsoCort? Besides the cortisol, Isocort is now listed on the Bezwecken

website as

containing Echinacea, as Echinacea Purpurea (6 mg per pellet). It also

contains Lactose, Magnesium Stearate, Starch Arrowroot, Maltodextrin,

Microcrystalline Cellulose, Magnesium Silicate, and Lactase.

Previously, it was listed as follows: Freeze-Dried

Adrenal Cortex (soluble fractionation) from New Zealand Sheep. Echinacea

Extract (trace amount). Prunus and Lomatium dissectum root isolate (kreb

concentrate-2%) in pellet base of lactose and lactase.

In other words, it still contains lactose and lactase, but

the rest you see are new.

Why did they change the bovine adrenal cortex to

plant derived cortisol? For one, the change

now makes the product vegetarian-friendly. And it now joins a group of over 100

plant-derived substances made out there which are effective.

Can you tell me more about it being plant derived? Medicinal plants have always contained substances that are helpful

for humans. Aspirin is one good example, made from willow or other

salicylate-rich plants. In fact, there are so many medicinal plants out there

that we haven’t even begun to touch the surface of using them! China is

an exception, having used plants for thousands of years. It’s said that

the practice of ayurvedic in Asia uses nearly 2000 different kinds of

plant species. The Botanical Garden of the National Autonomous University

of Mexico has stated there are approximately 3,500 species of medicinal plants

in Mexico alone. And more and more cancer drugs are going to be

plant-derived.

How do patients and their forward-thinking doctors

use IsoCort? When after doing a 24 hour saliva

cortisol test, it’s discovered there are some low cortisol readings, the

use of Isocort gives back the cortisol that the sluggish adrenal/HPA

function is not giving. You can read more about dysfunctional adrenal

function here.

After reading that page, you’ll see a link on what patients have

learned in treating it, plus references to other websites and patient groups.

How much cortisol is in the plant-derived

formulation? Probably the same.

Are there any other OTC adrenal cortex products out

there? Yes. If you will use your favorite

search engine and put in “adrenal cortex supplements”, you’ll

find other sources. Just read the labels correctly to make sure it’s only

adrenal cortex.

Thanks for the input Sheila. I did post

to counter the occasional claim that Isocort contains no cortisone.

My saliva tests showed low cortisol thus a " need " to take it with my

T3. I do try to cut down, (e.g., I took only 3 an that was at 5 a.m.) but

it's a slow progress. I'm upping my T3 at the same time.

No, I'm not up for an ACTH test. I do not have Cushing's, just Cushingoid

but thanks so much for the idea. If I don't clear up in time, I'll reconsider.

I do wonder if my weight gain and other cushingoid symptoms would have been the

same had I taken prednisone or prednisolone or even dexamethasone. We'll

never know if this is a purely Isocort complication for me or if I would react

the same to all forms.

QD

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Sheila <sheila@...> wrote:

You shouldn't

then be taking Isocort if you are developing the buffalo hump and swollen puffy

face associated with Cushing's syndrome. Have you talked to your doctor about

this and asked to have an ACTH test done? Thanks for this information though,

many just take adrenal supplements without really knowing what they do or the

effect they might have on them.

Luv - Sheila

I have been taking Isocort

since May. I have read some claim there is " no " cortisol

in Isocort for obscure FDA disapproval, but I think such an opinion is

unfounded and question the reasons for such opinions.

I never was on " old " Isocort, so I cannot compare it.

I have felt a definite effect from Isocort, which I usually take: 4,3,2,2

or 11 per day. Sometimes I " stress dose " and take more if I

notice that I am shooting adrenalin under some anxiety or fear.

I have put on much weight from Isocort. Further, I am developing a bit of a

buffalo hump and a swollen, puffy face. All the symptoms are Cushingoid. To

me,, that defies the opinion that " there is no cortisol " in Isocort.

Hope this helps Sheila.

__

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Isocort has changed its formula...many people believe it pretty much has no

cortisol in it at all now. I used to take 2 pellets a day and when I switched to

the new, there was *nothing there.* I switched to HC because I take such a low

dose anyway. I cut my 5 mgs into 4 equal pieces and just take 2.

Cheers,

JOT

>

>  

>  

> Sorry, I also meant to ask.... dos anyone know the cheapest place to buy

Isocort at the moment or does anyone know of a similar Adrenal supplement ?

>  

> many thanks

>  

> julia

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