Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and starting using a little sea salt.

I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these issues?

Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of them?

Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about using iodine instead?

I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to remember.

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's priceless.

[Guest guest]

I am thyroidless and am on Nature-throid. Last year I had a high RT3. I did not go on T3 only because all that does is desensitize the receptors and not address the issue. The issue with high RT3 is a conversion problem. So you need to get to the root. I continued on NT and did a liver detox using TLC www.purezenhealth.com which is a liver product from my doctor. High cortisol can also contribute to a high RT3.

Buist, ND HC

Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

Hello,

I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and starting using a little sea salt.

I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these issues?

Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of them?

Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about using iodine instead?

I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to remember.

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's priceless.

[Guest guest]

I believe that I have a RT3 problem and was hoping to start T3 only soon, But

now maybe not? I don't believe I have low thyroid (only goiter), but I do have

low iron. I was told in the past that my liver was congested and my liver

numbers were on the high side of normal. Did you correct your RT3 with liver

detox only? Sorry to be a little OT, but your comments caused me to really think

about the correct way to handle this.

~~

>

> I am thyroidless and am on Nature-throid. Last year I had a high RT3. I did

not go on T3 only because all that does is desensitize the receptors and not

address the issue. The issue with high RT3 is a conversion problem. So you

need to get to the root. I continued on NT and did a liver detox using TLC

www.purezenhealth.com which is a liver product from my doctor. High cortisol

can also contribute to a high RT3.

>

> Buist, ND HC

>

>

> Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

>

>

>

>

> Hello,

>

> I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and starting using

a little sea salt.

>

> I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a cortisol test

done. Does iodine and salt target both of these issues?

>

> Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid medications, i.e.,

Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of them?

>

> Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches differ? Does

anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either Armour/Naturethroid

and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about using iodine instead?

>

> I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and others. I've

been trying to read up but there is so much info to remember.

> Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's priceless.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you have a goiter, you would have some kind of thyroid problem. Detox will greatly help clear the RT3 problem. And low iron is very often linked to low thyroid. Donna in IL From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of lwingard62Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 1:13 PMiodine Subject: Re: Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals? I believe that I have a RT3 problem and was hoping to start T3 only soon, But now maybe not? I don't believe I have low thyroid (only goiter), but I do have low iron. I was told in the past that my liver was congested and my liver numbers were on the high side of normal. Did you correct your RT3 with liver detox only? Sorry to be a little OT, but your comments caused me to really think about the correct way to handle this.~~>> I am thyroidless and am on Nature-throid. Last year I had a high RT3. I did not go on T3 only because all that does is desensitize the receptors and not address the issue. The issue with high RT3 is a conversion problem. So you need to get to the root. I continued on NT and did a liver detox using TLC www.purezenhealth.com which is a liver product from my doctor. High cortisol can also contribute to a high RT3. > > Buist, ND HC> > > Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?> > > > > Hello,> > I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and starting using a little sea salt.> > I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these issues?> > Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of them?> > Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about using iodine instead?> > I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to remember.> Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's priceless.> > >

[Guest guest]

, Absolutely NOT-- anyone who needs thyroid hormone should receive

it. We advocate taking whole thyroid eg NatureThroid or Armour. No one

should stop taking their thyroid hormone on the assumption that iodine is

going to replace it. Some people are able to get off their thyroid meds,

but iodine is not a direct replacement by any means. Iodine will improve

overall function and give people back a lot of capacity.

Quitting thyroid hormones without justification just slows down healing.

So no, I don't know how that impression was given, but we absolutely do not

advocate quitting thyroid meds and using iodine instead. We advocate

taking the entire iodine protocol for life and continuing thyroid meds

(whole thyroid), and if it develops that enough healing is possible, if and

when, then thryoid meds can be phased down and/or out. But ONLY if a

person starts having symptoms of having too much thyroid hormone should

that be considered.

I reduced my thyroid hormone early on, when I had a high energy day for the

first time. I was all... oh I'm getting too much thyroid hormone need to

cut back... wrong. I was just experiencing more energy than I'd had

previously. I set myself back by cutting out the thyroid hormone.

Rather than having a goal of getting off the thyroid hormone, I recommend a

goal of getting as healthy and functional as possible. If that means one

remains on thyroid hormone for life, that's not a failure. It simply means

that we live in a toxic environment and your thyroid function is

impaired. Quality of life dictates that we get as functional as possible

and not be attached to particular outcomes like " must get off thyroid

hormone in order to be deemed a health success " . I deem myself a health

success because I have a level of energy and capacity that is majorly

improved over where I was. I have fibromyalgia and I'm not in a

wheelchair, far from it. Considering where I was when I was first

diagnosed, I'm very happy with the healing I've achieved. Friends half my

age remark on my energy and fitness, so I must be doing something right.

--

>Hello,

>

>I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and starting

>using a little sea salt.

>

>I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a cortisol

>test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these issues?

>

>Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid medications, i.e.,

>Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of them?

>

>Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches differ? Does

>anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either

>Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about

>using iodine instead?

>

>I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and

>others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to remember.

>Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's priceless.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were

their salvation? ~~~~

--Gilles Deleuze

[Guest guest]

This is so relavent to my situation . I have RT3 in the 450s. Have been taking T3 with just a smidge of T4. I was thinking about going to all T3 to clear it as advised on the RT3 group so your take is quite different. How do you know that going all T3 desensitizes the receptors? I see this liver cleansing product is 21 days. Did you take it for that length of time or more? You're not had an RT3 issues since?Thanks for all you are doing for this group!Janet iodine From: ladybugsandbees@...Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:23:42 -0400Subject: Re: Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

I am thyroidless and am on Nature-throid. Last year I had a high RT3. I did not go on T3 only because all that does is desensitize the receptors and not address the issue. The issue with high RT3 is a conversion problem. So you need to get to the root. I continued on NT and did a liver detox using TLC www.purezenhealth.com which is a liver product from my doctor. High cortisol can also contribute to a high RT3.

Buist, ND HC

Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

Hello,

I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and starting using a little sea salt.

I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these issues?

Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of them?

Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about using iodine instead?

I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to remember.

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's priceless.

[Guest guest]

, Your words have struck a chord with me, If that means one remains on thyroid hormone for life, that's not a failure.I have been quite determined to cure, fix, and heal totally my situation (Hashi's/menopause/lyme). It has become a full time job in addition to my "real" job. Acceptance of where we are is healing in itself and I am grateful for the reminder and for your presence on this group.Thanks,Janet iodine From: vbaker@...Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:55:29 -0500Subject: Re: Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

, Absolutely NOT-- anyone who needs thyroid hormone should receive

it. We advocate taking whole thyroid eg NatureThroid or Armour. No one

should stop taking their thyroid hormone on the assumption that iodine is

going to replace it. Some people are able to get off their thyroid meds,

but iodine is not a direct replacement by any means. Iodine will improve

overall function and give people back a lot of capacity.

Quitting thyroid hormones without justification just slows down healing.

So no, I don't know how that impression was given, but we absolutely do not

advocate quitting thyroid meds and using iodine instead. We advocate

taking the entire iodine protocol for life and continuing thyroid meds

(whole thyroid), and if it develops that enough healing is possible, if and

when, then thryoid meds can be phased down and/or out. But ONLY if a

person starts having symptoms of having too much thyroid hormone should

that be considered.

I reduced my thyroid hormone early on, when I had a high energy day for the

first time. I was all... oh I'm getting too much thyroid hormone need to

cut back... wrong. I was just experiencing more energy than I'd had

previously. I set myself back by cutting out the thyroid hormone.

Rather than having a goal of getting off the thyroid hormone, I recommend a

goal of getting as healthy and functional as possible. If that means one

remains on thyroid hormone for life, that's not a failure. It simply means

that we live in a toxic environment and your thyroid function is

impaired. Quality of life dictates that we get as functional as possible

and not be attached to particular outcomes like "must get off thyroid

hormone in order to be deemed a health success". I deem myself a health

success because I have a level of energy and capacity that is majorly

improved over where I was. I have fibromyalgia and I'm not in a

wheelchair, far from it. Considering where I was when I was first

diagnosed, I'm very happy with the healing I've achieved. Friends half my

age remark on my energy and fitness, so I must be doing something right.

--

>Hello,

>

>I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and starting

>using a little sea salt.

>

>I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a cortisol

>test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these issues?

>

>Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid medications, i.e.,

>Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of them?

>

>Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches differ? Does

>anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either

>Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about

>using iodine instead?

>

>I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and

>others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to remember.

>Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's priceless.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were

their salvation? ~~~~

--Gilles Deleuze

[Guest guest]

I am so happy to hear you explain this, I have always wondered about what was causing my conversion problem and suspected it to being what you stated. I wish I'd known this before going on all T3 over a year ago, it really did nothing for me. I had an awful cause of insulin resistance and high cortisol being on T3 only and now that I've been cleansing my liver and taking Nature-throid I've seen a big difference in the conversion. I figured this out on my own, my doc didn't get it. It seemed so obvious to me what was going on I just put it all together. LouiseOn Jul 30, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Janet A wrote:

This is so relavent to my situation . I have RT3 in the 450s. Have been taking T3 with just a smidge of T4. I was thinking about going to all T3 to clear it as advised on the RT3 group so your take is quite different. How do you know that going all T3 desensitizes the receptors? I see this liver cleansing product is 21 days. Did you take it for that length of time or more? You're not had an RT3 issues since?Thanks for all you are doing for this group!Janet iodine From: ladybugsandbees@...Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:23:42 -0400Subject: Re: Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

I am thyroidless and am on Nature-throid. Last year I had a high RT3. I did not go on T3 only because all that does is desensitize the receptors and not address the issue. The issue with high RT3 is a conversion problem. So you need to get to the root. I continued on NT and did a liver detox using TLC www.purezenhealth.com which is a liver product from my doctor. High cortisol can also contribute to a high RT3.

Buist, ND HC

Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

Hello,

I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and starting using a little sea salt.

I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these issues?

Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of them?

Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about using iodine instead?

I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to remember.

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's priceless.

[Guest guest]

Janet,

I'm glad that's helpful and thanks for the kind words. That's exactly what

I was speaking to. I keep hearing people so determined to get " well " that

they have nothing else in their lives but health regimens and working for a

living. Another term for this problem is " perfectionism " -- which is

something I have long felt the tyranny of and work to weed out. Balance in

life is really important, and if we're so busy trying to achieve being

perfectly well (a state which doesn't exist in any case), the reason for

having health, that is, enjoying life, family, love, and maybe changing the

world for the better, gets lost. If all that gets lost, what's it all for

anyway?

Obviously if people have critical illnesses their lives are going to be

focused on surviving the illness and coming out alive, but I'm just saying,

quality of life is what it's for, not some perfection to attain just for

itself.

--

At 04:37 PM 7/30/2011, you wrote:

>,

>

>Your words have struck a chord with me, If that means one

>remains on thyroid hormone for life, that's not a failure.

>

>I have been quite determined to cure, fix, and heal totally my situation

>(Hashi's/menopause/lyme). It has become a full time job in addition to my

> " real " job. Acceptance of where we are is healing in itself and I am

>grateful for the reminder and for your presence on this group.

>Thanks,

>Janet

>

>

>----------

>iodine

>From: vbaker@...

>Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:55:29 -0500

>Subject: Re: Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

>

>

>, Absolutely NOT-- anyone who needs thyroid hormone should receive

>it. We advocate taking whole thyroid eg NatureThroid or Armour. No one

>should stop taking their thyroid hormone on the assumption that iodine is

>going to replace it. Some people are able to get off their thyroid meds,

>but iodine is not a direct replacement by any means. Iodine will improve

>overall function and give people back a lot of capacity.

>

>Quitting thyroid hormones without justification just slows down healing.

>

>So no, I don't know how that impression was given, but we absolutely do not

>advocate quitting thyroid meds and using iodine instead. We advocate

>taking the entire iodine protocol for life and continuing thyroid meds

>(whole thyroid), and if it develops that enough healing is possible, if and

>when, then thryoid meds can be phased down and/or out. But ONLY if a

>person starts having symptoms of having too much thyroid hormone should

>that be considered.

>

>I reduced my thyroid hormone early on, when I had a high energy day for the

>first time. I was all... oh I'm getting too much thyroid hormone need to

>cut back... wrong. I was just experiencing more energy than I'd had

>previously. I set myself back by cutting out the thyroid hormone.

>

>Rather than having a goal of getting off the thyroid hormone, I recommend a

>goal of getting as healthy and functional as possible. If that means one

>remains on thyroid hormone for life, that's not a failure. It simply means

>that we live in a toxic environment and your thyroid function is

>impaired. Quality of life dictates that we get as functional as possible

>and not be attached to particular outcomes like " must get off thyroid

>hormone in order to be deemed a health success " . I deem myself a health

>success because I have a level of energy and capacity that is majorly

>improved over where I was. I have fibromyalgia and I'm not in a

>wheelchair, far from it. Considering where I was when I was first

>diagnosed, I'm very happy with the healing I've achieved. Friends half my

>age remark on my energy and fitness, so I must be doing something right.

>

>--

>

> >Hello,

> >

> >I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and starting

> >using a little sea salt.

> >

> >I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a cortisol

> >test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these issues?

> >

> >Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid medications, i.e.,

> >Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of them?

> >

> >Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches differ? Does

> >anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either

> >Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about

> >using iodine instead?

> >

> >I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and

> >others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to remember.

> >Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's priceless.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

>--A.J. Muste

>

>~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were

>their salvation? ~~~~

>--Gilles Deleuze

>

>

>

>

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were

their salvation? ~~~~

--Gilles Deleuze

[Guest guest]

Yes I corrected it with liver detox only. My levels went down 100 pts in 6 weeks time.

Buist, ND HC

Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?> > > > > Hello,> > I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and starting using a little sea salt.> > I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these issues?> > Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of them?> > Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about using iodine instead?> > I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to remember.> Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's priceless.> > >

[Guest guest]

I took 1 scoop 2 x / day. I did it for 6 weeks and then retested. I do not take it regularly now. Just every once in a while as a maintenance. I am also testing some other products from company's trying to "woo me" into using their products. LOL! No I do not have an RT3 issue any longer. My RT3 issue flared up with the new Armour. I never had it until I went on new Armour. I switched to NT and did the liver product and it went away.

Buist, ND HC

Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

Hello,

I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and starting using a little sea salt.

I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these issues?

Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of them?

Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about using iodine instead?

I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to remember.

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's priceless.

[Guest guest]

My children have been on thyroid meds since they were 4 & 7. They are not 9 & almost 2. My 9 yr old is on 2 gr and my 11 1/2 yr old is on 2 1/4 gr. I have told them that they will probably take it for life but the heartache and horrible life they have avoided by just taking the little pills is massive. It's not the worst thing in the world for them to deal with.

Buist, ND HC

Re: Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

, Absolutely NOT-- anyone who needs thyroid hormone should receive it. We advocate taking whole thyroid eg NatureThroid or Armour. No one should stop taking their thyroid hormone on the assumption that iodine is going to replace it. Some people are able to get off their thyroid meds, but iodine is not a direct replacement by any means. Iodine will improve overall function and give people back a lot of capacity.Quitting thyroid hormones without justification just slows down healing.So no, I don't know how that impression was given, but we absolutely do not advocate quitting thyroid meds and using iodine instead. We advocate taking the entire iodine protocol for life and continuing thyroid meds (whole thyroid), and if it develops that enough healing is possible, if and when, then thryoid meds can be phased down and/or out. But ONLY if a person starts having symptoms of having too much thyroid hormone should that be considered.I reduced my thyroid hormone early on, when I had a high energy day for the first time. I was all... oh I'm getting too much thyroid hormone need to cut back... wrong. I was just experiencing more energy than I'd had previously. I set myself back by cutting out the thyroid hormone.Rather than having a goal of getting off the thyroid hormone, I recommend a goal of getting as healthy and functional as possible. If that means one remains on thyroid hormone for life, that's not a failure. It simply means that we live in a toxic environment and your thyroid function is impaired. Quality of life dictates that we get as functional as possible and not be attached to particular outcomes like "must get off thyroid hormone in order to be deemed a health success". I deem myself a health success because I have a level of energy and capacity that is majorly improved over where I was. I have fibromyalgia and I'm not in a wheelchair, far from it. Considering where I was when I was first diagnosed, I'm very happy with the healing I've achieved. Friends half my age remark on my energy and fitness, so I must be doing something right.-->Hello,>>I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and starting >using a little sea salt.>>I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a cortisol >test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these issues?>>Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid medications, i.e., >Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of them?>>Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches differ? Does >anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either >Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about >using iodine instead?>>I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and >others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to remember.>Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's priceless.>>>>>>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were their salvation? ~~~~--Gilles Deleuze

[Guest guest]

I had really bad IR too. My A1C was 6.1 and my fasting glucose was 95. I did the liver detox and also took Dr. Brownstein's GlucControl product - 2 - 2x /day as well as taking EPA/DHA oils. I just retested a month ago after about 6 mos of doing this and my A1C was 5.5 and my fasting glucose was 85 so I have really done well. It's all tied.

Buist, ND HC

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I am so happy to hear you explain this, I have always wondered about what was causing my conversion problem and suspected it to being what you stated. I wish I'd known this before going on all T3 over a year ago, it really did nothing for me. I had an awful cause of insulin resistance and high cortisol being on T3 only and now that I've been cleansing my liver and taking Nature-throid I've seen a big difference in the conversion. I figured this out on my own, my doc didn't get it. It seemed so obvious to me what was going on I just put it all together.

Louise

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I've been fighting IR hard for the last six months and have gotten my fasting insulin down to 28 from 48.... I never knew about the GluControl product by Dr. Brownstein, I have something like this by Solaray but his product has to be better. My fasting glucose was100, I can't seem to get it down regardless of what I eat and I'm thinking that maybe the test was faulty. My A1C is 5.8 I'm definitely going to try the GluControl. My H uses his prostrate product and it's helped him. Thanks.LouiseOn Jul 30, 2011, at 8:29 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote:

I had really bad IR too. My A1C was 6.1 and my fasting glucose was 95. I did the liver detox and also took Dr. Brownstein's GlucControl product - 2 - 2x /day as well as taking EPA/DHA oils. I just retested a month ago after about 6 mos of doing this and my A1C was 5.5 and my fasting glucose was 85 so I have really done well. It's all tied.

Buist, ND HC

Re: Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

I am so happy to hear you explain this, I have always wondered about what was causing my conversion problem and suspected it to being what you stated. I wish I'd known this before going on all T3 over a year ago, it really did nothing for me. I had an awful cause of insulin resistance and high cortisol being on T3 only and now that I've been cleansing my liver and taking Nature-throid I've seen a big difference in the conversion. I figured this out on my own, my doc didn't get it. It seemed so obvious to me what was going on I just put it all together.

Louise

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I did the Ultra Clear Plus liver cleansing 3week program and I did it exactly as

advised, but didnt notice anything different in how I feel. I have also been

doing coffee enemas twice a week.

I have not retested but I think my rt3 is still high since I have all the same

hypo symptoms I always had if not worse. I also tried t3 but did not feel good

on it. I'm now on 2gr of Thyroid Erfa.

The only other NTH that I can get in Finland is Armour Thyroid but I have been

avoiding it since I read people don't feel good on it either. I do not really

know what to do. I also use milk thistle but can it be something mental why my

liver refuses to function right??

Tried homeopathy, too but nothing really changed.

Also, food intolerances can cause major stress on liver, maybe testing them

might be good? I do not have Hashi's but I have been glutenfree for 4months

now, but no change. That's about the same time I started on iodine, now I take

about 65mg.

I think to find proper balance on thyroid hormone is more important than try to

get rid of it. I don't think it is possible for somebody who has taken synthetic

hormones for years. If I had known about iodine when first diagnosed, things

might be different now, who knows?

Susa

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> >

> > This is so relavent to my situation . I have RT3 in the 450s.

Have been taking T3 with just a smidge of T4. I was thinking about going to all

T3 to clear it as advised on the RT3 group so your take is quite different. How

do you know that going all T3 desensitizes the receptors?

> >

> > I see this liver cleansing product is 21 days. Did you take it for that

length of time or more? You're not had an RT3 issues since?

> > Thanks for all you are doing for this group!

> > Janet

> >

> > iodine

> > From: ladybugsandbees@...

> > Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:23:42 -0400

> > Subject: Re: Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

> >

> >

> > I am thyroidless and am on Nature-throid. Last year I had a high RT3. I

did not go on T3 only because all that does is desensitize the receptors and not

address the issue. The issue with high RT3 is a conversion problem. So you

need to get to the root. I continued on NT and did a liver detox using TLC

www.purezenhealth.com which is a liver product from my doctor. High cortisol

can also contribute to a high RT3.

> >

> > Buist, ND HC

> >

> >

> > Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and starting using

a little sea salt.

> >

> > I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a cortisol test

done. Does iodine and salt target both of these issues?

> >

> > Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid medications, i.e.,

Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of them?

> >

> > Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches differ? Does

anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either Armour/Naturethroid

and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about using iodine instead?

> >

> > I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and others. I've

been trying to read up but there is so much info to remember.

> > Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's priceless.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I am now interested in taking the TLC for liver detox so I checked out their

website. It states that this product contains soy. I don't know how much, but

would that be a problem with thyroid issues? Normally, I avoid all unfermented

soy.

~~

>

>

> This is so relavent to my situation . I have RT3 in the 450s. Have

been taking T3 with just a smidge of T4. I was thinking about going to all T3

to clear it as advised on the RT3 group so your take is quite different. How do

you know that going all T3 desensitizes the receptors? I see this liver

cleansing product is 21 days. Did you take it for that length of time or more?

You're not had an RT3 issues since?Thanks for all you are doing for this

group!Janet

> iodine

> From: ladybugsandbees@...

> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:23:42 -0400

> Subject: Re: Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

>

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> I am thyroidless

> and am on Nature-throid. Last year I had a high RT3. I did not go on

> T3 only because all that does is desensitize the receptors and not address the

> issue. The issue with high RT3 is a conversion problem. So you need

> to get to the root. I continued on NT and did a liver detox using TLC

www.purezenhealth.com which is a liver

> product from my doctor. High cortisol can also contribute to a high

> RT3.

>

> Buist,

> ND HC

>

>

>

> Iodine For Thyroid and

> Adrenals?

>

>

>

>

> Hello,

>

> I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and

> starting using a little sea salt.

>

>

> I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a

> cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these

> issues?

>

> Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid

> medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of

> them?

>

> Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches

> differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either

> Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about

> using iodine instead?

>

> I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and

> others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to

> remember.

> Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's

> priceless.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Where does it say it contains soy? https://www.purezenhealth.com/onlineStore_cat05.php Dr Brownstein does not like soy nor does he use it in his products. I just looked at all the ingredients and did not see soy mentioned. I can see if it says "Does NOT contain soy".

This is his newest book https://www.drbrownstein.com/bookstore_Soy.php The Soy Deception.

Iodine For Thyroid and > Adrenals?> > > > > Hello,> > I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and > starting using a little sea salt.> > > I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a > cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these > issues?> > Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid > medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of > them?> > Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches > differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either > Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about > using iodine instead?> > I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and > others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to > remember.> Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's > priceless.> > >

[Guest guest]

I looked at it and under ‘More Info’ and then ‘Supplement Facts’ it says it contains Milk, Soy and Corn. Stan From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbeesSent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:42 AMiodine Subject: Re: Re: Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals? Where does it say it contains soy? https://www.purezenhealth.com/onlineStore_cat05.php Dr Brownstein does not like soy nor does he use it in his products. I just looked at all the ingredients and did not see soy mentioned. I can see if it says " Does NOT contain soy " . This is his newest book https://www.drbrownstein.com/bookstore_Soy.php The Soy Deception. Iodine For Thyroid and > Adrenals?> > > > > Hello,> > I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and > starting using a little sea salt.> > > I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a > cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these > issues?> > Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid > medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of > them?> > Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches > differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either > Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about > using iodine instead?> > I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and > others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to > remember.> Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's > priceless.> > >

[Guest guest]

I noticed that too, I've been thinking of doing a liver detox, but will be

putting it together myself, after researching. Milk Thistle and MSM seem to go

a long way, also ALA. Does anyone have a good list of supplements for liver

detox?>

> >

> >

> > This is so relavent to my situation . I have RT3 in the 450s.

> Have been taking T3 with just a smidge of T4. I was thinking about going to

> all T3 to clear it as advised on the RT3 group so your take is quite

> different. How do you know that going all T3 desensitizes the receptors? I

> see this liver cleansing product is 21 days. Did you take it for that length

> of time or more? You're not had an RT3 issues since?Thanks for all you are

> doing for this group!Janet

> > iodine <mailto:iodine%40>

> > From: ladybugsandbees@

> > Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:23:42 -0400

> > Subject: Re: Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

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> > I am thyroidless

> > and am on Nature-throid. Last year I had a high RT3. I did not go on

> > T3 only because all that does is desensitize the receptors and not address

> the

> > issue. The issue with high RT3 is a conversion problem. So you need

> > to get to the root. I continued on NT and did a liver detox using TLC

> www.purezenhealth.com which is a liver

> > product from my doctor. High cortisol can also contribute to a high

> > RT3.

> >

> > Buist,

> > ND HC

> >

> >

> >

> > Iodine For Thyroid and

> > Adrenals?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and

> > starting using a little sea salt.

> >

> >

> > I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a

> > cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these

> > issues?

> >

> > Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid

> > medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of

> > them?

> >

> > Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches

> > differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either

> > Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about

> > using iodine instead?

> >

> > I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and

> > others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to

> > remember.

> > Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's

> > priceless.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

TLC also contains 53mcg iodine. Has loads of good stuff and I too am wondering why the soy? Is Brownstein aware of this, perhaps it's a typo??? Janet iodine From: AltanS@...Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 09:05:52 -0400Subject: RE: Re: Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

I looked at it and under ‘More Info’ and then ‘Supplement Facts’ it says it contains Milk, Soy and Corn. Stan From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbeesSent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:42 AMiodine Subject: Re: Re: Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals? Where does it say it contains soy? https://www.purezenhealth.com/onlineStore_cat05.php Dr Brownstein does not like soy nor does he use it in his products. I just looked at all the ingredients and did not see soy mentioned. I can see if it says "Does NOT contain soy". This is his newest book https://www.drbrownstein.com/bookstore_Soy.php The Soy Deception. Iodine For Thyroid and > Adrenals?> > > > > Hello,> > I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and > starting using a little sea salt.> > > I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a > cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these > issues?> > Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid > medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of > them?> > Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches > differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either > Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about > using iodine instead?> > I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and > others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to > remember.> Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's > priceless.> > >

[Guest guest]

Steph - click on more facts, then more info, then scroll all the way down ... it

says it at the end. contains milk, soy, corn .. I immediately wrote it off.

The amounts of supplements contained are also very low. You could probably do

better buying a good multi vitamin, like Solgar V75 (recommended by the Ortho

group at , Dr. Bate) and then adding extra C, D, E, B complex plus B3 -

maybe some B6 and Zinc and Selenium.

Barb

> >

> >

> > This is so relavent to my situation . I have RT3 in the 450s.

Have been taking T3 with just a smidge of T4. I was thinking about going to all

T3 to clear it as advised on the RT3 group so your take is quite different. How

do you know that going all T3 desensitizes the receptors? I see this liver

cleansing product is 21 days. Did you take it for that length of time or more?

You're not had an RT3 issues since?Thanks for all you are doing for this

group!Janet

> > iodine

> > From: ladybugsandbees@

> > Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 13:23:42 -0400

> > Subject: Re: Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

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> > and am on Nature-throid. Last year I had a high RT3. I did not go on

> > T3 only because all that does is desensitize the receptors and not address

the

> > issue. The issue with high RT3 is a conversion problem. So you need

> > to get to the root. I continued on NT and did a liver detox using TLC

www.purezenhealth.com which is a liver

> > product from my doctor. High cortisol can also contribute to a high

> > RT3.

> >

> > Buist,

> > ND HC

> >

> >

> >

> > Iodine For Thyroid and

> > Adrenals?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and

> > starting using a little sea salt.

> >

> >

> > I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a

> > cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these

> > issues?

> >

> > Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid

> > medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of

> > them?

> >

> > Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches

> > differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either

> > Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about

> > using iodine instead?

> >

> > I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and

> > others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to

> > remember.

> > Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's

> > priceless.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'll ask him. I didn't see that last line when I looked.

Buist, ND HC

Iodine For Thyroid and > Adrenals?> > > > > Hello,> > I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and > starting using a little sea salt.> > > I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a > cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these > issues?> > Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid > medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of > them?> > Is there somewhere I ! can read up on how these approaches > differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either > Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about > using iodine instead?> > I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and > others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to > remember.> Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's > priceless.> > >

[Guest guest]

I talked to him today and it does not have soy. That was an issue that with the product a long time ago. It came with soy and he made sure it got removed. The label on the website is an old one. He contacted his office manager to have the website updated. It does not contain corn or dairy either.

Buist, ND HC

Iodine For Thyroid and > Adrenals?> > > > > Hello,> > I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and > starting using a little sea salt.> > > I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a > cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these > issues?> > Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid > medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of > them?> > Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches > differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either > Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about > using iodine instead?> > I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and > others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to > remember.> Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's > priceless.> > >

[Guest guest]

This product is not for nutrients - like a multi. It is formulated to be a liver detoxifier. A multivitamin like Solgar V75 is not going to detox the liver.

Buist, ND HC

Iodine For Thyroid and > > Adrenals?> > > > > > > > > > Hello,> > > > I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and > > starting using a little sea salt.> > > > > > I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a > > cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these > > issues?> > > > Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid > > medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of > > them?> > > > Is there somewhere I can read up on how these approaches > > differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either > > Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about > > using iodine instead?> > > > I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and > > others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to > > remember.> > Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's > > priceless.> > > > > >>

[Guest guest]

Here is a screen shot of it. It is from “more info” then “supplemental

facts” of the TLC box. Way at the bottom of that supplemental facts box is

Other ingredients, then that line. I find it interesting that the site does not

have an ingredient list, only the “other ingredients” and the statement

Contains milk, corn and soy.

Donna in IL

From:

iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbees

Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 10:31 AM

iodine

Subject: Re: Re: Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

I'll ask him. I didn't see that last line when I looked.

Buist, ND HC

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Original Message -----

From: S. Altan

iodine

Sent: Sunday, July 31,

2011 9:05 AM

Subject: RE: Re:

Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

I looked at it and under ‘More Info’ and

then ‘Supplement Facts’ it says it contains Milk, Soy and Corn.

Stan

From: iodine

[mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ladybugsandbees

Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:42 AM

iodine

Subject: Re: Re: Iodine For Thyroid and Adrenals?

Where does it say it contains soy? https://www.purezenhealth.com/onlineStore_cat05.php

Dr Brownstein does not like soy nor does he use it in his products. I

just looked at all the ingredients and did not see soy mentioned. I can

see if it says " Does NOT contain soy " .

This is his newest book https://www.drbrownstein.com/bookstore_Soy.php

The Soy Deception.

!

Iodine For Thyroid and

> Adrenals?

>

>

>

>

> Hello,

>

> I have been using two drops of iodine for a couple years and

> starting using a little sea salt.

>

>

> I have been diagnosed with too much Reverse T3 and am having a

> cortisol test done. Does iodine and salt target both of these

> issues?

>

> Is it this group's approach to NOT take typical thyroid

> medications, i.e., Naturethroid or T3 but to use iodine in place of

> them?

>

> Is there somewhere I ! can read up on how these approaches

> differ? Does anyone here have experience with using thyroid meds, either

> Armour/Naturethroid and hydrocortisone and have a strong opinion about

> using iodine instead?

>

> I don't mean to cause controversy, just to educate myself and

> others. I've been trying to read up but there is so much info to

> remember.

> Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! It's

> priceless.

>

>

>

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