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Oh (((Gail))),

That does not sound pleasant at all! I'm glad you are seeing the doc

soon. I really hope you get some relief and can enjoy the long

weekend.

Hugs,

Houston, Texas

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Oh (((Gail))),

That does not sound pleasant at all! I'm glad you are seeing the doc

soon. I really hope you get some relief and can enjoy the long

weekend.

Hugs,

Houston, Texas

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Gail,

I'm so sorry to hear your update. Do you feel worse than before starting the

Rituxin? I mean with your joints being swollen and hurting? If so, I would not

think that was good. Hopefully you can snuggle up and know we love you. Good

thoughts,

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Gail,

I'm so sorry to hear your update. Do you feel worse than before starting the

Rituxin? I mean with your joints being swollen and hurting? If so, I would not

think that was good. Hopefully you can snuggle up and know we love you. Good

thoughts,

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Gail,

I'm so sorry to hear your update. Do you feel worse than before starting the

Rituxin? I mean with your joints being swollen and hurting? If so, I would not

think that was good. Hopefully you can snuggle up and know we love you. Good

thoughts,

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Gail:

I'm so sorry the Rituxan isn't working for you. How long is it

supposed to take before you start feeling better?

Personally, I'm one of those that don't qualify for any injectables

for various reasons so pain meds are the only thing I can do, that and

prednisone (ick!).

You're in my heart and my prayers. Good luck with the doctor and I

hope you find relief soon.

Take care and be well.

Ellen

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Gail:

I'm so sorry the Rituxan isn't working for you. How long is it

supposed to take before you start feeling better?

Personally, I'm one of those that don't qualify for any injectables

for various reasons so pain meds are the only thing I can do, that and

prednisone (ick!).

You're in my heart and my prayers. Good luck with the doctor and I

hope you find relief soon.

Take care and be well.

Ellen

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Gail:

I'm so sorry the Rituxan isn't working for you. How long is it

supposed to take before you start feeling better?

Personally, I'm one of those that don't qualify for any injectables

for various reasons so pain meds are the only thing I can do, that and

prednisone (ick!).

You're in my heart and my prayers. Good luck with the doctor and I

hope you find relief soon.

Take care and be well.

Ellen

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Gail, I'm sorry you're feeling so bad. Has anyone here had successful results

from Rituxen? I'd be very interested to hear as that may be the next step for

me. I've tried Kineret, Enbrel and Humira...to no avail. I'm going to the

Cleveland Clinic in October...maybe they have a new drug for those of us the

usual stuff doesn't work. My doctor said there are experiments with a new drug

that blocks the IL 7 receptor (I think that's right)....but it's probably only

available in Japan right now.

I'm just real curious to hear if anyone's had good results from Rituxen.

Meanwhile, Gail, get as much rest as you can...and I hope you feel better.

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Gail, I'm sorry you're feeling so bad. Has anyone here had successful results

from Rituxen? I'd be very interested to hear as that may be the next step for

me. I've tried Kineret, Enbrel and Humira...to no avail. I'm going to the

Cleveland Clinic in October...maybe they have a new drug for those of us the

usual stuff doesn't work. My doctor said there are experiments with a new drug

that blocks the IL 7 receptor (I think that's right)....but it's probably only

available in Japan right now.

I'm just real curious to hear if anyone's had good results from Rituxen.

Meanwhile, Gail, get as much rest as you can...and I hope you feel better.

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Gail, I'm sorry you're feeling so bad. Has anyone here had successful results

from Rituxen? I'd be very interested to hear as that may be the next step for

me. I've tried Kineret, Enbrel and Humira...to no avail. I'm going to the

Cleveland Clinic in October...maybe they have a new drug for those of us the

usual stuff doesn't work. My doctor said there are experiments with a new drug

that blocks the IL 7 receptor (I think that's right)....but it's probably only

available in Japan right now.

I'm just real curious to hear if anyone's had good results from Rituxen.

Meanwhile, Gail, get as much rest as you can...and I hope you feel better.

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Gail,

Just wanted you to know I'm so sorry the Rituxan isn't working. I would

definitely bring this up with your doc. Jeez, makes me have a few butterflies

about going for my first infusion of Rituxan on the 10th. Please let us know

what your doc says. I will be very interested in your progress. Hang in

there...

Branson, MO

Gail wrote:

Hey, gang, just an update on me. I had my third Rituxan treatment last

week. With the last one, I felt awful for 3-4 days, achy with swollen joints.

This time, it's been more than a week and I still feel terrible. I am back to

taking my pain meds around the clock. My left hand is swollen, too. I also feel

very tired. I see my doc next Tuesday. I am going to talk to him about this

seeing as I feel worse every time I get the treatment.

Hope the rest of you are doing okay.

Gail (KY)

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Gail,

Just wanted you to know I'm so sorry the Rituxan isn't working. I would

definitely bring this up with your doc. Jeez, makes me have a few butterflies

about going for my first infusion of Rituxan on the 10th. Please let us know

what your doc says. I will be very interested in your progress. Hang in

there...

Branson, MO

Gail wrote:

Hey, gang, just an update on me. I had my third Rituxan treatment last

week. With the last one, I felt awful for 3-4 days, achy with swollen joints.

This time, it's been more than a week and I still feel terrible. I am back to

taking my pain meds around the clock. My left hand is swollen, too. I also feel

very tired. I see my doc next Tuesday. I am going to talk to him about this

seeing as I feel worse every time I get the treatment.

Hope the rest of you are doing okay.

Gail (KY)

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Gail,

Just wanted you to know I'm so sorry the Rituxan isn't working. I would

definitely bring this up with your doc. Jeez, makes me have a few butterflies

about going for my first infusion of Rituxan on the 10th. Please let us know

what your doc says. I will be very interested in your progress. Hang in

there...

Branson, MO

Gail wrote:

Hey, gang, just an update on me. I had my third Rituxan treatment last

week. With the last one, I felt awful for 3-4 days, achy with swollen joints.

This time, it's been more than a week and I still feel terrible. I am back to

taking my pain meds around the clock. My left hand is swollen, too. I also feel

very tired. I see my doc next Tuesday. I am going to talk to him about this

seeing as I feel worse every time I get the treatment.

Hope the rest of you are doing okay.

Gail (KY)

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Two weeks ago I had a doctors appointment, she raised my estriol and estradiol

and told me to cut down on my Naturethroid by 1/2 grain. T4 was 8.6 ( ref.

4.5-10.8 ) My T3 was high at 5.6 (ref. is 2.3-4.2 ) and she wanted it to come

down. I also added iron supplements due to the lower MCV number of 84.3. I

asked for a ferritin test the last time and she said I didn't need it. Should I

get a ferritin test now to see where I'm at? I've been supplementing and felt

good for about a week then the headaches started so I don't know if the iron is

causing this or the higher dose of Estrogens? My heart rate has been in the

90's on and off which bothers me, I thought it could possibly be due to the iron

helping the T3 to convert? My BP is all over the place up and then low, I don't

know what the heck is going on.

She also told me not to take more than 25mg of Iodine. She doesn't believe in

any higher doses. I've been having a hard time taking Iodine in higher doses

than 12.5 and even at that low dose I get headaches. I seem to get a headache

with everything I do. I only want to change one thing at a time but don't know

what to start with.

I suffer from insulin resistance and have gotten my fasting insulin down from 48

to 28. I thought this also played a large part if T3 is converting. I was

doing so well and then this.

I need help sorting this mess out.

Louise

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According to her since my MCV was not low at that time ( but very close ) she told me I was good with ferritin. What could I say back? I'm taking bio identical hormones. I take Iodoral, do they use any type of filler in this? I was very sick from taking the new Armour from their filler. I don't think it's detoxing, I have tried Iodine five years ago and had this same results and since then tried taking it many times. Recently I tried it two more times and can't deal with a migraine headache for months. The headaches were this bad and lasted weeks at a time until I stopped taking idodine. I have no idea why this is happening to me. I tried to raise it at one point and it made it worse. I even lowered it to 6 mg and the headache would not go away until I quit taking idodine. I understand detox but this seems much more than that. On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Ariel Monserrat wrote:

How does she "know" you don't need a ferritin test, did she say?Are these estrogens natural or synthetic? makes a sizeable difference. The reactions to iodine may be because you're detoxing.Others on this list will know more than I do, though.

ArielOn Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:27 AM, LouiseH <loubob@...> wrote:

Two weeks ago I had a doctors appointment, she raised my estriol and estradiol and told me to cut down on my Naturethroid by 1/2 grain. T4 was 8.6 ( ref. 4.5-10.8 ) My T3 was high at 5.6 (ref. is 2.3-4.2 ) and she wanted it to come down. I also added iron supplements due to the lower MCV number of 84.3. I asked for a ferritin test the last time and she said I didn't need it. Should I get a ferritin test now to see where I'm at? I've been supplementing and felt good for about a week then the headaches started so I don't know if the iron is causing this or the higher dose of Estrogens? My heart rate has been in the 90's on and off which bothers me, I thought it could possibly be due to the iron helping the T3 to convert? My BP is all over the place up and then low, I don't know what the heck is going on.

She also told me not to take more than 25mg of Iodine. She doesn't believe in any higher doses. I've been having a hard time taking Iodine in higher doses than 12.5 and even at that low dose I get headaches. I seem to get a headache with everything I do. I only want to change one thing at a time but don't know what to start with.

I suffer from insulin resistance and have gotten my fasting insulin down from 48 to 28. I thought this also played a large part if T3 is converting. I was doing so well and then this.

I need help sorting this mess out.

Louise

-- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."-Tom Donohue

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Are you using the companion nutrients? What you describe is what happens to me when I have not taken the companion nutrients but have taken the iodine (occasionally I have forgotten to take the rest of my med regine) and once I take the rest of the nutrients I start feeling better. I especially don't like taking the salt - I've never been a salty person - I have always liked more sweet tastes - so if I miss the salt I get the headache/migraine. I must say the idea of salt is no longer as negative since I have been feeling better thanks to it.

Higgins

http://becomingaspecialneedsadvocate.blogspot.com/

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According to her since my MCV was not low at that time ( but very close ) she told me I was good with ferritin. What could I say back? I'm taking bio identical hormones. I take Iodoral, do they use any type of filler in this? I was very sick from taking the new Armour from their filler. I don't think it's detoxing, I have tried Iodine five years ago and had this same results and since then tried taking it many times. Recently I tried it two more times and can't deal with a migraine headache for months. The headaches were this bad and lasted weeks at a time until I stopped taking idodine. I have no idea why this is happening to me. I tried to raise it at one point and it made it worse. I even lowered it to 6 mg and the headache would not go away until I quit taking idodine. I understand detox but this seems much more than that.

On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Ariel M

onserrat wrote:

How does she "know" you don't need a ferritin test, did she say?

Are these estrogens natural or synthetic? makes a sizeable difference. The reactions to iodine may be because you're detoxing.

Others on this list will know more than I do, though.

Ariel

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:27 AM, LouiseH <loubob@...> wrote:

Two weeks ago I had a doctors appointment, she raised my estriol and estradiol and told me to cut down on my Naturethroid by 1/2 grain. T4 was 8.6 ( ref. 4.5-10.8 ) My T3 was high at 5.6 (ref. is 2.3-4.2 ) and she wanted it to come down. I also added iron supplements due to the lower MCV number of 84.3. I asked for a ferritin test the last time and she said I didn't need it. Should I get a ferritin test now to see where I'm at? I've been supplementing and felt good for about a week then the headaches started so I don't know if the iron is causing this or the higher dose of Estrogens? My heart rate has been in the 90's on and off which bothers me, I thought it could possibly be due to the iron helping the T3 to convert? My BP is all over the place up and then low, I don't know what the heck is going on.

She also told me not to take more than 25mg of Iodine. She doesn't believe in any higher doses. I've been having a hard time taking Iodine in higher doses than 12.5 and even at that low dose I get headaches. I seem to get a headache with everything I do. I only want to change one thing at a time but don't know what to start with.

I suffer from insulin resistance and have gotten my fasting insulin down from 48 to 28. I thought this also played a large part if T3 is converting. I was doing so well and then this.

I need help sorting this mess out.

Louise

--

"Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."

-Tom Donohue

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My doc tests both MCV and ferritin, fwiw.

Jaye

> >

> > Two weeks ago I had a doctors appointment, she raised my estriol and

estradiol and told me to cut down on my Naturethroid by 1/2 grain. T4 was 8.6 (

ref. 4.5-10.8 ) My T3 was high at 5.6 (ref. is 2.3-4.2 ) and she wanted it to

come down. I also added iron supplements due to the lower MCV number of 84.3. I

asked for a ferritin test the last time and she said I didn't need it. Should I

get a ferritin test now to see where I'm at? I've been supplementing and felt

good for about a week then the headaches started so I don't know if the iron is

causing this or the higher dose of Estrogens? My heart rate has been in the 90's

on and off which bothers me, I thought it could possibly be due to the iron

helping the T3 to convert? My BP is all over the place up and then low, I don't

know what the heck is going on.

> >

> > She also told me not to take more than 25mg of Iodine. She doesn't believe

in any higher doses. I've been having a hard time taking Iodine in higher doses

than 12.5 and even at that low dose I get headaches. I seem to get a headache

with everything I do. I only want to change one thing at a time but don't know

what to start with.

> >

> > I suffer from insulin resistance and have gotten my fasting insulin down

from 48 to 28. I thought this also played a large part if T3 is converting. I

was doing so well and then this.

> >

> > I need help sorting this mess out.

> >

> > Louise

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. "

> > -Tom Donohue

> >

> >

> >

>

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Should I quit taking my iron supplements for five days and get a ferritin test? On Jun 21, 2011, at 2:32 PM, jprocure@... wrote:

My doc tests both MCV and ferritin, fwiw.

Jaye

> >

> > Two weeks ago I had a doctors appointment, she raised my estriol and estradiol and told me to cut down on my Naturethroid by 1/2 grain. T4 was 8.6 ( ref. 4.5-10.8 ) My T3 was high at 5.6 (ref. is 2.3-4.2 ) and she wanted it to come down. I also added iron supplements due to the lower MCV number of 84.3. I asked for a ferritin test the last time and she said I didn't need it. Should I get a ferritin test now to see where I'm at? I've been supplementing and felt good for about a week then the headaches started so I don't know if the iron is causing this or the higher dose of Estrogens? My heart rate has been in the 90's on and off which bothers me, I thought it could possibly be due to the iron helping the T3 to convert? My BP is all over the place up and then low, I don't know what the heck is going on.

> >

> > She also told me not to take more than 25mg of Iodine. She doesn't believe in any higher doses. I've been having a hard time taking Iodine in higher doses than 12.5 and even at that low dose I get headaches. I seem to get a headache with everything I do. I only want to change one thing at a time but don't know what to start with.

> >

> > I suffer from insulin resistance and have gotten my fasting insulin down from 48 to 28. I thought this also played a large part if T3 is converting. I was doing so well and then this.

> >

> > I need help sorting this mess out.

> >

> > Louise

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."

> > -Tom Donohue

> >

> >

> >

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Yes I started taking the companion supplements a few weeks before starting on Iodine. I like the salt and don't have an issue with that part. On Jun 21, 2011, at 2:15 PM, wrote:

Are you using the companion nutrients? What you describe is what happens to me when I have not taken the companion nutrients but have taken the iodine (occasionally I have forgotten to take the rest of my med regine) and once I take the rest of the nutrients I start feeling better. I especially don't like taking the salt - I've never been a salty person - I have always liked more sweet tastes - so if I miss the salt I get the headache/migraine. I must say the idea of salt is no longer as negative since I have been feeling better thanks to it.

Higgins

http://becomingaspecialneedsadvocate.blogspot.com/

Re: feeling bad

According to her since my MCV was not low at that time ( but very close ) she told me I was good with ferritin. What could I say back? I'm taking bio identical hormones. I take Iodoral, do they use any type of filler in this? I was very sick from taking the new Armour from their filler. I don't think it's detoxing, I have tried Iodine five years ago and had this same results and since then tried taking it many times. Recently I tried it two more times and can't deal with a migraine headache for months. The headaches were this bad and lasted weeks at a time until I stopped taking idodine. I have no idea why this is happening to me. I tried to raise it at one point and it made it worse. I even lowered it to 6 mg and the headache would not go away until I quit taking idodine. I understand detox but this seems much more than that.

On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Ariel M

onserrat wrote:

How does she "know" you don't need a ferritin test, did she say?

Are these estrogens natural or synthetic? makes a sizeable difference. The reactions to iodine may be because you're detoxing.

Others on this list will know more than I do, though.

Ariel

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:27 AM, LouiseH <loubob@...> wrote:

Two weeks ago I had a doctors appointment, she raised my estriol and estradiol and told me to cut down on my Naturethroid by 1/2 grain. T4 was 8.6 ( ref. 4.5-10.8 ) My T3 was high at 5.6 (ref. is 2.3-4.2 ) and she wanted it to come down. I also added iron supplements due to the lower MCV number of 84.3. I asked for a ferritin test the last time and she said I didn't need it. Should I get a ferritin test now to see where I'm at? I've been supplementing and felt good for about a week then the headaches started so I don't know if the iron is causing this or the higher dose of Estrogens? My heart rate has been in the 90's on and off which bothers me, I thought it could possibly be due to the iron helping the T3 to convert? My BP is all over the place up and then low, I don't know what the heck is going on.

She also told me not to take more than 25mg of Iodine. She doesn't believe in any higher doses. I've been having a hard time taking Iodine in higher doses than 12.5 and even at that low dose I get headaches. I seem to get a headache with everything I do. I only want to change one thing at a time but don't know what to start with.

I suffer from insulin resistance and have gotten my fasting insulin down from 48 to 28. I thought this also played a large part if T3 is converting. I was doing so well and then this.

I need help sorting this mess out.

Louise

--

"Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."

-Tom Donohue

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