Sleep and Vitamin D deficiency - surprising connection

[Guest guest]

Those are really good, thanks.

Miriam

> A friend sent me a series of u-tube videos on sleep and Vit D featuring the

American Dr. Stasha Gominak. I nearly gave up after watching the first video ...

there is only so much drawn out presentation in a slightly whiny voice that I

can take.... glad I persevered. ly, the first 2 videos were probably

necessary to lead into the subject, but I thought thoroughly boring. It starts

getting interesting in video 3, 4 and 5.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this post ....I'm past the first two and looking forward to the others.. I wish there were subtitles or a transcript to follow as she does talk very fast. I've learnt already and look forward to watching the other three... Many thanksJaki

Those are really good, thanks.

Miriam

> A friend sent me a series of u-tube videos on sleep and Vit D featuring the American Dr. Stasha Gominak. I nearly gave up after watching the first video ... there is only so much drawn out presentation in a slightly whiny voice that I can take.... glad I persevered. ly, the first 2 videos were probably necessary to lead into the subject, but I thought thoroughly boring. It starts getting interesting in video 3, 4 and 5.

[Guest guest]

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> Oh Great, she says dont take D2 it will screw you up. My Gp just gave me

300,000 units injection !!!!

Debbie xx

[Guest guest]

If you run out of patience with the videos, Dr Grominak has a website where you

can read a bit about vitamin D and sleep.

http://drgominak.com/

Miriam

> Thanks for this post ....I'm past the first two and looking forward to the

others.. I wish there were subtitles or a transcript to follow as she does talk

very fast. I've learnt already and look forward to watching the other

three... 

[Guest guest]

Hi , did you get the impression that Dr Grominak thought correcting the

sleep needed quite a few months of correct Vitamin D levels, ferritin and B12?

She seemed to be talking as though correcting those things would guarantee good

sleep, but my levels are all good, but my sleep is not.

I still get up several times a night to go to the loo (which she relates to D

deficiency) and sometimes have to eat food at 3am because of low blood sugar.

When I wake in the morning I don't feel refreshed, but really hung over. Most

days I have a few good hours from 6pm to 9pm, but the rest of the day am

dragging myself about.

I notice she doesn't say much about thyroid, and I am still undermedicated, so

maybe my sleep will improve when I (eventually) reach the right level.

Miriam

> A friend sent me a series of u-tube videos on sleep and Vit D featuring the

American Dr. Stasha Gominak.

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> For those of you who are Vit D deficient, have trouble sleeping, wake with

aches and pains, take the time to patiently watch and listen

> through it all – it's worth it J

[Guest guest]

Miriam thanks for the link it's going to be a great help. Having watched the

third clip through last night I found it much better viewing. It held my

attention and I was taking notes!

Cheers

Jaki

 

 

If you run out of patience with the videos, Dr Grominak has a website where you

can read a bit about vitamin D and sleep.

http://drgominak.com/

Miriam

[Guest guest]

Well sourced ...

I think this qualifies as a paradigm shift ....and lots more reading to do

Bob

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> Hi all,

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> A friend sent me a series of u-tube videos on sleep and Vit D featuring

> the American Dr. Stasha Gominak.

[Guest guest]

Hi Miriam, when you say, " I still get up several times a night to go to

the loo " . I used to, but not now, until I reintroduced Sea salt.

I appreciate that no two people are alike, sometimes a blessing, but by

process of elimination the Salt and it's 80 odd minerals has helped

greatly these past few months.

Bill

> I still get up several times a night to go to the loo (which she

relates to D deficiency) and sometimes have to eat food at 3am because

of low blood sugar. When I wake in the morning I don't feel refreshed,

but really hung over. Most days I have a few good hours from 6pm to 9pm,

but the rest of the day am dragging myself about.

>

> I notice she doesn't say much about thyroid, and I am still

undermedicated, so maybe my sleep will improve when I (eventually) reach

the right level.

>

> Miriam

[Guest guest]

Hi Miriam,

Hi , did you get the impression that Dr Grominak thought correcting the sleep needed quite a few months of correct Vitamin D levels, ferritin and B12? She seemed to be talking as though correcting those things would guarantee good sleep, but my levels are all good, but my sleep is not.

Without listening to the vids again I can't refer to anything she says specifically, but I think just about any supplement/hormone needs about 6-8 weeks to be fully effective, although should ease any problem that it is going to alleviate during the entire time we are taking it.

Another thing to bear in mind is that Dr. Gominak is not a thyroid specialist; she is a neurologist, dealing with patients with headaches, insomnia and sleep disturbances – she mentions thyroid as a sideline because low thyroid levels affect the brain. Her angle is - what can Vits D3 and B12 do for those ailments and she is telling us about her findings. She claims that D3 is a hormone, not a vitamin, and that it has a positive affect on the part of the brain that is responsible for the various sleep stages. Her position is that the body can self-heal just about anything, but only if and when our bodies reach slow wave sleep (at a point where the body gets paralyzed) ... but many patients do not reach that stage of sleep, even when they `sleep' for 10 hours or more, or they don't reach it for long enough to give the body enough time to heal.... which is actually a fantastic concept and the conclusions I draw from her statements is that stress must be the most likely component that robs us of this wonderful deep `slow wave' sleep. As Dr. G. explains .... sleep comes in phases and with a built-in warning system. This warning system only allows the body to go into the healing `slow wave' sleep when the mind feels totally "safe" and does not worry about a thing .... or in other words, only when we are totally relaxed will our mind `let go' and allow the body to become paralyzed; to my mind this is a fascinating theory.... -- so perhaps the missing "ingredient" in your personal case is that despite your corrected mineral and vitamin levels your adrenals are still not strong enough? – that your stress levels are still too high for your mind to "let go" and allow your body to reach the safe haven of slow wave paralysis ?? Food for thought, methinks J

Love,

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the tip. I do use sea salt, but maybe I am not taking enough. I'll

make a concerted effort to have a bit more each day.

Miriam

> Hi Miriam, when you say, " I still get up several times a night to go to the

loo " . I used to, but not now, until I reintroduced Sea salt.

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> I appreciate that no two people are alike, sometimes a blessing, but by

process of elimination the Salt and it's 80 odd minerals has helped greatly

these past few months.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, . That's a good summary of the videos I think. Certainly her

findings are very interesting. I don't think I have anything in particular to

be stressed about just now - except that I am undermedicated with the thyroid -

which is a stress for the body in itself.

Miriam

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> > Another thing to bear in mind is that Dr. Gominak is not a thyroid

> > specialist; she is a neurologist, dealing with patients with headaches,

insomnia and sleep disturbances

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

What I had for a brief period, was awakening and still being paralysed,

as might happen coming round from anaesthesia ~ very alarming ~ don't

recall having used any 'medicines' at the time.

But may have been a long period drug side-effect (recovery from any of

previous medications ~ might have been dental flucloxacillin, come to

think).

Bob

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> Hi Miriam,

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> Hi , did you get the impression that Dr Grominak thought

> correcting the sleep needed quite a few months of correct Vitamin D

> levels, ferritin and B12? She seemed to be talking as though

correcting

> those things would guarantee good sleep, but my levels are all good,

but

> my sleep is not.

[Guest guest]

What I had for a brief period, was awakening and still being paralysed,as might happen coming round from anaesthesia ~ very alarming ~ don'trecall having used any 'medicines' at the time.

Hello Bob,

Funny you should mention that....I remember exactly the same thing happening to me twice and I put it down in my memory as an "out of body experience" <g> It was most weird and scary! I told my husband afterwards and he just looked at me as if I'd lost the plot ....

I remember laying on the bed for an afternoon snooze and dosed off. Some noise in the house woke me and I opened my eyes, but could not move a single muscle in my body. I remember swivelling my eyes to a clock on the wall, and noted the time... but that was all I could do. I could see the time advance for about 5 mins and I could hear noises sounding like footsteps (spooky – I was alone in the house). My brain was sort of working, sluggishly and treacly, and I thought that surely I was dreaming this and must wake up any second. But I didn't. After several further minutes I slowly came to – just like describe, like coming round after anaesthesia. And because I DID come round on both occasions, I know that it was not a dream and it all stayed in my memory very vividly.

It is probably rare to suddenly wake during a slow wave phase, but I have no doubt that this paralysing deep sleeping phase exists and I can believe that this might be the healing phase of all ails. To spin this out further.... would it be possible to heal physical illness by periodically putting patients artificially into slow wave paralysis phases, I wonder?.... the mind boggles J

Love,

[Guest guest]

Dr Gominak did say something in her tapes about the drug used for date rape

being good for putting people into a deep sleep. It wasn't clear whether this

included the healing release of growth hormone. Sleeping drugs could be

investigated to see whether they promote this kind of refreshing sleep or not.

Miriam

> It is probably rare to suddenly wake during a slow wave phase, but I

> have no doubt that this paralysing deep sleeping phase exists and I can

believe that this might be the healing phase of all ails. To spin this out

further.... would it be possible to heal physical illness by

> periodically putting patients artificially into slow wave paralysis

> phases, I wonder?.... the mind boggles J

[Guest guest]

Miriam, have you made any SOLE? You do this by getting a large

glass of boiled water and dropping into it a really good chunk of unrefined

salt. Wait until that has completely dissolved, and if there are no bits at the

bottom of the glass, add another chunk and do that until you get to the stage

that the water has become fully saturated and there is a residue of salt left

at the bottom of the glass. Only then will you know you have fully saturated

SOLE. Put that into a bottle with a screw lid and every morning when you get

up, take a 'swig' from the bottle. It will taste VERY salty, but it is somehow

a nice healthy salty taste. That way you will be sure to get all the minerals

your body needs. This is the way that I take my Himalayan Salt.

Luv - Sheila

Thanks for the tip. I do use sea salt, but

maybe I am not taking enough. I'll make a concerted effort to have a bit more

each day.

Miriam

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Sheila.

> Miriam, have you made any SOLE?

[Guest guest]

I'm afraid this mixture goes through me like the proverbial dose of salts,

though I am only taking a mouthful. Apparently Dr Myhill has developed a

transdermal mineral mix so that minerals can be absorbed through the skin. I've

written off to ask about it and will give it a try.

Miriam

> Miriam, have you made any SOLE? You do this by getting a large glass of boiled

water and dropping into it a really good chunk of unrefined salt.

[Guest guest]

You only have a teaspoon full when you wake Mo. This would not

cause you to have the problem you mention.

I'm afraid this mixture goes through me like

the proverbial dose of salts, though I am only taking a mouthful. Apparently Dr

Myhill has developed a transdermal mineral mix so that minerals can be absorbed

through the skin. I've written off to ask about it and will give it a try.

Miriam

> Miriam, have you made any SOLE? You do this by getting a large glass of

boiled water and dropping into it a really good chunk of unrefined salt.

[Guest guest]

I could try just a teaspoonful then. That is a lot less than a " swig " .

Minerals have always caused me to have this " dose of salts " problem, so it is

not really surprising this salt solution does the same.

Miriam

> You only have a teaspoon full when you wake Mo. This would not cause you to

have the problem you mention.