Re: Think I am toxic - best way to deal with it??

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Added summary of whats happened.

Summary of symptoms to try and work out what has happened-

Day 1 of thyroid, 3 NAE - ok

day 2 - ok, more energy. good.

day 3 - ok, more energy, good. pulse 63, temp 36.5.

day 4 ok, more energy good. pulse 66, temp 36.1.

day 5- tired, spaced out. pulse 665, temp 36.3.

day 6 -depressed, spaced, snappy. pulse 65, temp 36.5.

day 7 - depressed, spaced, snappy. pulse 72, temp 36.6.

day 8 - anxious, depressed, spaced. pulse 73, temp 36.7.

day 9 - anxious, depressed, spaced. pulse 75, temp 36.7.

day 10 - didnt sleep well. pulse 74, temp 36.7.

..day 11 - 1 thyroid, 3 NAE, 5mg pred and 25mg DHEA snappy, anxious. pulse 70,

temp 36.7.

day 12 - didnt sleep well, bad dreams, not feeling well. pulse 73, temp 37.

day 13 - anxious, fever, bad dreams. pulse 70, temp 36.9.

day 14 -.not well, anxious, bad dreams, wide pupils. pulse 70, temp 36.8.

day - 15 2 thyroid, 3 NAE, 5mg pred and DHEA. gone from bad to worse, pain,

anxious, fever, bad dreams, woke up in the night sweating hot and cold,

panicked, heart pounding

mon day 16 - STOPPED thyroid, pred, dhea. Took 3 NAE. Not too bad. pulse 64,

temp 36.7.

Tue day 17 - not too bad in the day. Bit shaky/trembling. Terrible night. Woke

up at mignight sweating, heart pounding, hot and cold all over, feels like one

hell of a panic attack, loose bowels, crying. pulse 80, temp 98.6.

Weds day 17 - looking up symptoms of thyroid toxicity and they fit with

symptoms. today pulse 83, temp 99. Feel worse than ever. Wondering how best to

deal with it? Lay down, walk, sit etc. Feeling a bit frightened.

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> Hi everyone,

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> Basically low adrenals, on 3 x Nutri Adrenal Extra for months, decided to add

1 porcine thyroid (130mg raw). Big mistake.

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> Everything went well for few days, then I got really irritable and snappy,

anxious, thought my adrenals were not coping so upped NAE to 4, and very

stupidly added 5mg pred for 2 days and DHEA.

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> Not surprisingly things got even worse and I stopped pred, thyroid, DHEA. Have

been a bit better for a day, now feeling really very bad and a bit scarred.

Sweaty, hot and cold all over, cant sleep very well, heart pounding in chest,

anxious, trembling, temp 99 pulse 83 on waking today.

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> What is the best way to deal with it? To recap - not on any thyroid med now,

just 2 NAE.

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> Nikki

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[Guest guest]

how long were you on pred for? do you think you stopped it too soon without

tapering off?

if you're concerned you could go to go A+E or GP - don't take chances if you

feel very unwell

Chris

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> Hi everyone,

>

> Basically low adrenals, on 3 x Nutri Adrenal Extra for months, decided to add

1 porcine thyroid (130mg raw). Big mistake.

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[Guest guest]

pred for 2 days only.

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> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > Basically low adrenals, on 3 x Nutri Adrenal Extra for months, decided to

add 1 porcine thyroid (130mg raw). Big mistake.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You need to get properly tested Nikki. You should not be taking

any thyroid or adrenal supplements if these are not called for. It is no good

second guessing that these may be a problem, especially when you feel you

should be adding such drugs as Prednisolone into the mix.

Can you get the 24 hour salivary adrenal test done through

Genova Diagnostics.

Have you been tested to see whether you have candida antibodies.

Have you been tested to check your levels of ferritin, vitamin

B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and zinc.

Is there any chance you may be suffering with mercury poisoning

caused through any amalgam fillings you might have?

Have you been tested to see whether you have antibodies to your

thyroid.

Any chance you could get an appointment with Dr Peatfield or Dr

Skinner so you have somebody keeping a close eye on your treatment with

whatever it is you need to treat?

If this was me, I would stay off thyroid hormone replacement and

HC until these have been properly tested. Best if you can get referred to an

endocrinologist who has a specialty in thyroid disease. Messing about with

hormones can cause you real harm if your body doesn't need them.

Luv - Sheila

Basically low adrenals, on 3 x Nutri Adrenal Extra for months, decided to add 1

porcine thyroid (130mg raw). Big mistake.

Everything went well for few days, then I got really irritable and snappy,

anxious, thought my adrenals were not coping so upped NAE to 4, and very

stupidly added 5mg pred for 2 days and DHEA.

Not surprisingly things got even worse and I stopped pred, thyroid, DHEA. Have

been a bit better for a day, now feeling really very bad and a bit scarred.

Sweaty, hot and cold all over, cant sleep very well, heart pounding in chest,

anxious, trembling, temp 99 pulse 83 on waking today.

What is the best way to deal with it? To recap - not on any thyroid med now,

just 2 NAE.

Nikki

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Hi Sheila

Nikki's already posted her results, don't think anyone's commented on them yet

thyroid treatment/message/88469

> Can you get the 24 hour salivary adrenal test done through Genova

> Diagnostics.

Nikki has had this - see link above

> Have you been tested to see whether you have candida antibodies.

These are raised, too

[Guest guest]

Nikki,

Thyroid hormones, especially T3 (which is in NT) tax the adrenals. You say your

adrenals are in poor shape, hence the NAX, but then you took 1 tablet which was

2 GRAINS of NT and then day 15 you said you were on 2 Tablets (4 GRAINS) of

NT....

ooohhh that's all a bit sudden..... There is a folder in the files which

tells you how to start on NT, you start on either a quarter or half a grain

(1 grain is 60 mcg - your tablets are twice this)... and stick on it for a

while, then increase VERY SLOWLY....

Here's the link:

thyroid treatment/files/ALL%20NATURAL%\

20DESICCATED%20THYROID%20INFO./

Get yourself calm and back on an even keel, have any tests done so you know what

state your adrenals are in, and make sure you need thyroid hormnes.... then

read up on how to do it.....

Guess i don't have to tell you this. I doubt you'll just go up to 4 grains again

in a hurry!!!!

We live and learn....

x

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> Added summary of whats happened.

> Summary of symptoms to try and work out what has happened-

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> day - 15 2 thyroid, 3 NAE, 5mg pred and DHEA. gone from bad to worse, pain,

anxious, fever, bad dreams, woke up in the night sweating hot and cold,

panicked, heart pounding

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> mon day 16 - STOPPED thyroid, pred, dhea. Took 3 NAE. Not too bad. pulse 64,

temp 36.7.

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