lung cancer

[Guest guest]

Hi Pat; I wouldn't want to rain on this parade, but, techniques like this don't work for everyone. I've seen miracles happen with this type of thing, but I've seen far more people going home disappointed. If you plan on going ahead, see if you can get phone numbers of people that have been there, and contact them. Be sure to get as much real information as you can about these people. What they believe in, what else they may have done, before and after, their blood type, the illness they were fighting, etc. If all seems like they are the same type person as you, it may be worth a try.

Good luck

Klaus

In a message dated 9/27/01 2:32:53 PM Mountain Daylight Time, sleeper@... writes:

I'll be the space case here. I've read a book and am close to seeing a

video on of God in Brazil. I talked to people who have been to see

him. He doesn't charge for his cures. He treats high numbers-sometimes

thousands-each day. I have prostate cancer with bone mets and am seriously

thinking of going there myself. Like Cayce, he's not a doctor. Visible and

invisible painless-bloodless surgeries are channeled up in plain view by

dead doctors each day. If you have a little cash and not much to lose, you

might consider this. I hope to be seeing that video this week. Pat in

Mexico

[Guest guest]

From: " Pat and Gail Muldowney " <sleeper@...>

Date sent: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 07:53:41 -0500

Send reply to: cures for cancer

Subject: Re: Lung Cancer

> I'll be the space case here. I've read a book and am close to seeing a

> video on of God in Brazil. I talked to people who have been to see

> him. He doesn't charge for his cures. He treats high numbers-sometimes

> thousands-each day. I have prostate cancer with bone mets and am

> seriously thinking of going there myself.

Hi,

If you go there make sure you take your beta glucan and vitamin C with

you.

moonbeam

Like Cayce, he's not a doctor.

> Visible and invisible painless-bloodless surgeries are channeled up in

> plain view by dead doctors each day. If you have a little cash and not

> much to lose, you might consider this. I hope to be seeing that video

> this week. Pat in Mexico Lung Cancer

> > > Dear Moonbeam,

> > > I just found this list last night and need some help and I need

> > > it quick. I am 47, was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer in January

> > > of this year.

> >

> >

> > Hi Kathleen,

> > please don't take anything I say as medical

> advice, rather as

> > information to discuss with your health professional.

> > My neighbor was diagnosed in January this year with stage 4 lung

> > cancer.

> Today she has

> > no detectable cancer. She followed protocol 1. But she also took some

> chemo and radio.

> >

> > >After 4 treatments of Oxygen Tx and Insulin Tx I got two blood

> > > clots in my neck where the double luminum catheter went in. I got all

> my

> > > Laetrile, vitamin C, chelation Tx but failed the rest. They (Oasis)

> sent

> > > me home to do Radiation Tx while continuing on Laetril and

> > > supplements.

> >

> > Please explain exactly the type of oxygen therapy that you had. Was it

> oxygen therapy or

> > ozone therapy or peroxide therapy?

> > There are two types of oxygen therapy that could be useful. Firstly, the

> dilute peroxide

> > bath described in protocol 1. One would be looking at, at least 90

> > baths,

> a lot more

> > oxygen therapy than the 4 oxygen treatments you paid for. Secondly,

> breathing dilute

> > medical ozone gas. This would require a bottle of medical grade oxygen

> > and

> a suitable

> > ozone generator. This is a bit more complicated, yet in a medical

> > journal

> I posted to the

> > list, the doctors recommended it for lung cancer.

> >

> > Chelation therapy is quite expensive, but good for removing cancer

> > causing

> substances

> > from the body. However oral chelation therapy using Spirulina is cheap

> > and

> I would

> > recommend that instead. In terms of value for money there are much

> > better

> therapies than

> > IV chelation therapy.

> > When you had Laetrile therapy, was that IV or tablets? Are you still

> taking the tablets?

> > Vitamin C is only really useful when taken with a macrophage activator,

> such as Beta

> > glucan. You do not mention that you took Beta glucan, so I assume you

> > did

> not.

> > Beta glucan is fundamental to immunotherapy against cancer.

> >

> > > I then went to Washington Univ. to

> > > visit a thoracic surgeon who said I too much bulky disease and sent me

> > > home to do chemo. City of Hope in Los Angeles did another ct chest on

> > > Sept. 7th showing new nodules in both lungs, more extensive

> > > mediastinal adenopathy.

> >

> > Clearly the therapy you have been taking is not working well. I would

> follow protocol 1

> > for 4 months and then have another Cat Scan. Previously I posted an

> article showing good

> > success in clinical trials with throat tumors using injection of saline

> > or

> ethanol. 86

> > percent complete remission was found by the authors injecting ethanol

> > into

> throat tumors.

> >

> > > The whole while I've been anemic and had required 1 unit then 3

> > > unit of blood to bring me back to feeling good. This was fine until

> > > between July 23rd and Aug 23rd when my H & H took a dump and the cancer

> >took off growing

> > again. I've has 2 liters and 2 more liters of blood in the

> > > last week.

> >

> > Previously I posted an article showing that phycocyanin, the blue

> > coloring

> in Spirulina,

> > stimulated the bone marrow to increase production of red and white

> > blood

> cells.

> > Spirulina also contains immune stimulating polysaccharides. Protocol 1

> recommends three

> > heaped teaspoons of Spirulina powder, electrically mixed

> > in juice, two or three times per day. This may address the problem of

> anemia. Clinical

> > trials of women in Japan showed Spirulina eliminated anemia.

> >

> > > I'm on 2 liters of Oxygen at night while sleeping,

> >

> > Oxygen gas is not use in oxygen therapy, except for hyperbaric oxygen

> therapy. Active

> > forms of oxygen such as ozone or peroxide are used instead.

> >

> > > have changed my

> > > diet trying to maintain an pH enviornment, list essiac tea, coffee

> enemias

> > > daily.

> >

> > I personally and not convinced of the efficacy of essiac essiac tea.

> Coffee enema enemas

> > are used to the toxic by and eliminate waste products produced by

> immunotherapy. They are

> > a single element derived from this and therapy. Dr. Gerson says unless

> > the

> enemas are

> > used with his raw vegetable and fruit juice diet they won't work.

> >

> > >I'm... totally inept with

> > > nutritional/alternative therapy terminology and where to get the

> > > stuff, how to apply it and on and on. I live in Oregon, small town

> > > with no reputable nutritionist within over 300 miles that I know of.

> > > Can you

> help

> > > me? Can you teach me how to fight this cancer with oxygen and

> > > whatever else you know of? Anything you could suggest will be heaven

> > > sent. Thank you, Michele

> >

> > I would order 20 liters of 35 percent food grade hydrogen peroxide from

> > a

> chemical

> > Company and 2 or liters of 99 percent grade DMSO. I would also purchase

> > a

> half kg or 1 kg

> > of yeast derived Beta glucan, two kg of Vitamin C powder, either sodium

> ascorbate, or one

> > of the new more expensive varieties of vitamin C.

> > I would purchase the slow speed juicer and start on the vegetable juice

> and & therapy.

> >

> > I would be taking the dilute peroxide bath twice a day, reheating it in

> the afternoon

> > with an immersion heater.

> > I would be purchasing the shark liver oil, L-Selenomethionine, vitamin

> > E,

> Laetrile

> > tablets and as many of the ingredients for protocol 1 as possible. If I

> could afford it I

> > would get a transfer factor suitable for lung cancer.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > moonbeam

> >

> >

> > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links

> > there.

> Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

> visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > >

[Guest guest]

Be sure and pick up a copy of Stoff's book "The prostate Miracle" Very well thought out and very thorough. Genuinely integrative vs. alterantive,

Best,

Guthrie R.Ph.

-----Original Message-----From: moonbeam@... [mailto:moonbeam@...]Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 5:48 PMcures for cancer Subject: Re: Lung CancerFrom: "Pat and Gail Muldowney" <sleeper@...>Date sent: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 07:53:41 -0500Send reply to: cures for cancer Subject: Re: Lung Cancer> I'll be the space case here. I've read a book and am close to seeing a> video on of God in Brazil. I talked to people who have been to see> him. He doesn't charge for his cures. He treats high numbers-sometimes> thousands-each day. I have prostate cancer with bone mets and am> seriously thinking of going there myself. Hi, If you go there make sure you take your beta glucan and vitamin C with you. moonbeamLike Cayce, he's not a doctor. > Visible and invisible painless-bloodless surgeries are channeled up in> plain view by dead doctors each day. If you have a little cash and not> much to lose, you might consider this. I hope to be seeing that video> this week. Pat in Mexico Lung Cancer> > > Dear Moonbeam,> > > I just found this list last night and need some help and I need> > > it quick. I am 47, was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer in January> > > of this year.> >> >> > Hi Kathleen,> > please don't take anything I say as medical> advice, rather as> > information to discuss with your health professional.> > My neighbor was diagnosed in January this year with stage 4 lung> > cancer.> Today she has> > no detectable cancer. She followed protocol 1. But she also took some> chemo and radio.> >> > >After 4 treatments of Oxygen Tx and Insulin Tx I got two blood> > > clots in my neck where the double luminum catheter went in. I got all> my> > > Laetrile, vitamin C, chelation Tx but failed the rest. They (Oasis)> sent> > > me home to do Radiation Tx while continuing on Laetril and> > > supplements.> >> > Please explain exactly the type of oxygen therapy that you had. Was it> oxygen therapy or> > ozone therapy or peroxide therapy?> > There are two types of oxygen therapy that could be useful. Firstly, the> dilute peroxide> > bath described in protocol 1. One would be looking at, at least 90> > baths,> a lot more> > oxygen therapy than the 4 oxygen treatments you paid for. Secondly,> breathing dilute> > medical ozone gas. This would require a bottle of medical grade oxygen> > and> a suitable> > ozone generator. This is a bit more complicated, yet in a medical> > journal> I posted to the> > list, the doctors recommended it for lung cancer.> >> > Chelation therapy is quite expensive, but good for removing cancer> > causing> substances> > from the body. However oral chelation therapy using Spirulina is cheap> > and> I would> > recommend that instead. In terms of value for money there are much> > better> therapies than> > IV chelation therapy.> > When you had Laetrile therapy, was that IV or tablets? Are you still> taking the tablets?> > Vitamin C is only really useful when taken with a macrophage activator,> such as Beta> > glucan. You do not mention that you took Beta glucan, so I assume you> > did> not.> > Beta glucan is fundamental to immunotherapy against cancer.> >> > > I then went to Washington Univ. to> > > visit a thoracic surgeon who said I too much bulky disease and sent me> > > home to do chemo. City of Hope in Los Angeles did another ct chest on> > > Sept. 7th showing new nodules in both lungs, more extensive> > > mediastinal adenopathy.> >> > Clearly the therapy you have been taking is not working well. I would> follow protocol 1> > for 4 months and then have another Cat Scan. Previously I posted an> article showing good> > success in clinical trials with throat tumors using injection of saline> > or> ethanol. 86> > percent complete remission was found by the authors injecting ethanol> > into> throat tumors.> >> > > The whole while I've been anemic and had required 1 unit then 3> > > unit of blood to bring me back to feeling good. This was fine until> > > between July 23rd and Aug 23rd when my H & H took a dump and the cancer> >took off growing> > again. I've has 2 liters and 2 more liters of blood in the> > > last week.> >> > Previously I posted an article showing that phycocyanin, the blue> > coloring> in Spirulina,> > stimulated the bone marrow to increase production of red and white > > blood> cells.> > Spirulina also contains immune stimulating polysaccharides. Protocol 1> recommends three> > heaped teaspoons of Spirulina powder, electrically mixed> > in juice, two or three times per day. This may address the problem of> anemia. Clinical> > trials of women in Japan showed Spirulina eliminated anemia.> >> > > I'm on 2 liters of Oxygen at night while sleeping,> >> > Oxygen gas is not use in oxygen therapy, except for hyperbaric oxygen> therapy. Active> > forms of oxygen such as ozone or peroxide are used instead.> >> > > have changed my> > > diet trying to maintain an pH enviornment, list essiac tea, coffee> enemias> > > daily.> >> > I personally and not convinced of the efficacy of essiac essiac tea.> Coffee enema enemas> > are used to the toxic by and eliminate waste products produced by> immunotherapy. They are> > a single element derived from this and therapy. Dr. Gerson says unless> > the> enemas are> > used with his raw vegetable and fruit juice diet they won't work.> >> > >I'm... totally inept with> > > nutritional/alternative therapy terminology and where to get the> > > stuff, how to apply it and on and on. I live in Oregon, small town> > > with no reputable nutritionist within over 300 miles that I know of. > > > Can you> help> > > me? Can you teach me how to fight this cancer with oxygen and> > > whatever else you know of? Anything you could suggest will be heaven> > > sent. Thank you, Michele> >> > I would order 20 liters of 35 percent food grade hydrogen peroxide from> > a> chemical> > Company and 2 or liters of 99 percent grade DMSO. I would also purchase> > a> half kg or 1 kg> > of yeast derived Beta glucan, two kg of Vitamin C powder, either sodium> ascorbate, or one> > of the new more expensive varieties of vitamin C.> > I would purchase the slow speed juicer and start on the vegetable juice> and & therapy.> >> > I would be taking the dilute peroxide bath twice a day, reheating it in> the afternoon> > with an immersion heater.> > I would be purchasing the shark liver oil, L-Selenomethionine, vitamin> > E,> Laetrile> > tablets and as many of the ingredients for protocol 1 as possible. If I> could afford it I> > would get a transfer factor suitable for lung cancer.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > moonbeam> >> >> > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links> > there.> Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by> visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > >

[Guest guest]

Pat,

Have you heard of Dr. Cowden, before going far away, I recommend to see if you can get into see him. He is a MD, written several books, cured lots of people including me so far. He is in Ft. Worth Texas. Fax him at 817-441-2507 or call 817-441-2504. Leave message on recording, and I would fax him brief summary of your condition, double space type and ask direct questions. He is awesome.

JA

[Guest guest]

Dear Pat,,

This weekend a spiritual healer Orbito visits for the third time the

Netherlands. Though I'm very suspicious against that kind of people I decide

to visit one of his sessions half a yar ago. And it goes to far to describe

my experiences there. Also because the time that I went there I was already

four years cancerfree. But one thing will keep in my mind I saw a very

friendly man doing an operation with his bare hands. And don't day it is a

tric, because I was standing within one meter and with me thirty other

people, and not once but we were there twice. The woman had no pain and I

could take a look in het belly. With blood etc. And this man took out some

black stuff what he calls materialised negative energy. You wonn't believe

it but this was really my observation. Ofcourse this man can be such a good

actor and illusionist but I don't think so. Orbito is very famous for

all over the world.

But one important thing he told there several times: please don't think I

can heal you from your cancer. The only thing I can do is helping to open

yourself for your true innerself. (I know my english isn't really good but I

hope you understand what I say) Some of you can help this with curing from

your disease, for others it will not work. You have to do it by yourself.

I'm just a human being whi is in contact with GOD when I'm in trance and I

don't know what GOD is doing with me or my hands. But again and again don't

rely on me rely on yourself. Examine your own life, your own expactations,

how do you think about yourzelf, how do you communicate with others wiht

your childeren, your partner etc. eetc. etc. I'm not GOD.

If you want ot read more about faithfull and spiritual healing I got from

someone the next books:

Man of Light -Rinaldo Lampis

Going within - Shirley Maclaine

Born to heal - T. Licauco

Magicians of God - T. Licauco

The secret teachings of the Espiritistas - Harvey martin

A psychiatrist's Search for God - Finkelstein M.D.

Awakening the Healer Within - Cagan

Two weeks with the Psychic Surgeons . Marti Stadek

Maybe this all is a help before you go to Brasil. Don't take this as that I

beleive in such wonderpeople. Again I'm too suspicious for this, but I

wanted to give my experineces with it. And in Dutch I wrote a long article

about my experiences, but I don't have time for an English tranlation. If

you want I can send it to you in Dutch and you should find someone who

translate it for you in english.

I hope you will manage to find the best way for yourself.

Gr. Kees Braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

Lung Cancer

> > > Dear Moonbeam,

> > > I just found this list last night and need some help and I need

> > > it quick. I am 47, was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer in January

of

> > > this year.

> >

> >

> > Hi Kathleen,

> > please don't take anything I say as medical

> advice, rather as

> > information to discuss with your health professional.

> > My neighbor was diagnosed in January this year with stage 4 lung

cancer.

> Today she has

> > no detectable cancer. She followed protocol 1. But she also took some

> chemo and radio.

> >

> > >After 4 treatments of Oxygen Tx and Insulin Tx I got two blood

> > > clots in my neck where the double luminum catheter went in. I got all

> my

> > > Laetrile, vitamin C, chelation Tx but failed the rest. They (Oasis)

> sent

> > > me home to do Radiation Tx while continuing on Laetril and

supplements.

> >

> > Please explain exactly the type of oxygen therapy that you had. Was it

> oxygen therapy or

> > ozone therapy or peroxide therapy?

> > There are two types of oxygen therapy that could be useful. Firstly, the

> dilute peroxide

> > bath described in protocol 1. One would be looking at, at least 90

baths,

> a lot more

> > oxygen therapy than the 4 oxygen treatments you paid for. Secondly,

> breathing dilute

> > medical ozone gas. This would require a bottle of medical grade oxygen

and

> a suitable

> > ozone generator. This is a bit more complicated, yet in a medical

journal

> I posted to the

> > list, the doctors recommended it for lung cancer.

> >

> > Chelation therapy is quite expensive, but good for removing cancer

causing

> substances

> > from the body. However oral chelation therapy using Spirulina is cheap

and

> I would

> > recommend that instead. In terms of value for money there are much

better

> therapies than

> > IV chelation therapy.

> > When you had Laetrile therapy, was that IV or tablets? Are you still

> taking the tablets?

> > Vitamin C is only really useful when taken with a macrophage activator,

> such as Beta

> > glucan. You do not mention that you took Beta glucan, so I assume you

did

> not.

> > Beta glucan is fundamental to immunotherapy against cancer.

> >

> > > I then went to Washington Univ. to

> > > visit a thoracic surgeon who said I too much bulky disease and sent me

> > > home to do chemo. City of Hope in Los Angeles did another ct chest on

> > > Sept. 7th showing new nodules in both lungs, more extensive

mediastinal

> > > adenopathy.

> >

> > Clearly the therapy you have been taking is not working well. I would

> follow protocol 1

> > for 4 months and then have another Cat Scan. Previously I posted an

> article showing good

> > success in clinical trials with throat tumors using injection of saline

or

> ethanol. 86

> > percent complete remission was found by the authors injecting ethanol

into

> throat tumors.

> >

> > > The whole while I've been anemic and had required 1 unit then 3

> > > unit of blood to bring me back to feeling good. This was fine until

> > > between July 23rd and Aug 23rd when my H & H took a dump and the cancer

> >took off growing

> > again. I've has 2 liters and 2 more liters of blood in the

> > > last week.

> >

> > Previously I posted an article showing that phycocyanin, the blue

coloring

> in Spirulina,

> > stimulated the bone marrow to increase production of red and white

blood

> cells.

> > Spirulina also contains immune stimulating polysaccharides. Protocol 1

> recommends three

> > heaped teaspoons of Spirulina powder, electrically mixed

> > in juice, two or three times per day. This may address the problem of

> anemia. Clinical

> > trials of women in Japan showed Spirulina eliminated anemia.

> >

> > > I'm on 2 liters of Oxygen at night while sleeping,

> >

> > Oxygen gas is not use in oxygen therapy, except for hyperbaric oxygen

> therapy. Active

> > forms of oxygen such as ozone or peroxide are used instead.

> >

> > > have changed my

> > > diet trying to maintain an pH enviornment, list essiac tea, coffee

> enemias

> > > daily.

> >

> > I personally and not convinced of the efficacy of essiac essiac tea.

> Coffee enema enemas

> > are used to the toxic by and eliminate waste products produced by

> immunotherapy. They are

> > a single element derived from this and therapy. Dr. Gerson says unless

the

> enemas are

> > used with his raw vegetable and fruit juice diet they won't work.

> >

> > >I'm... totally inept with

> > > nutritional/alternative therapy terminology and where to get the

stuff,

> > > how to apply it and on and on. I live in Oregon, small town with no

> > > reputable nutritionist within over 300 miles that I know of. Can you

> help

> > > me? Can you teach me how to fight this cancer with oxygen and

whatever

> > > else you know of?

> > > Anything you could suggest will be heaven sent. Thank you, Michele

> >

> > I would order 20 liters of 35 percent food grade hydrogen peroxide from

a

> chemical

> > Company and 2 or liters of 99 percent grade DMSO. I would also purchase

a

> half kg or 1 kg

> > of yeast derived Beta glucan, two kg of Vitamin C powder, either sodium

> ascorbate, or one

> > of the new more expensive varieties of vitamin C.

> > I would purchase the slow speed juicer and start on the vegetable juice

> and & therapy.

> >

> > I would be taking the dilute peroxide bath twice a day, reheating it in

> the afternoon

> > with an immersion heater.

> > I would be purchasing the shark liver oil, L-Selenomethionine, vitamin

E,

> Laetrile

> > tablets and as many of the ingredients for protocol 1 as possible. If I

> could afford it I

> > would get a transfer factor suitable for lung cancer.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > moonbeam

> >

> >

> > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links

there.

> Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

> visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello JAB44419, I just faxed Dr. Cowden and regrettably I had to refer to you as JAB44419 for lack of any better identifying marks. I told him what my situation is and hope to hear something back from him. Thank you very much for your information and caring. Pat

Re: Lung Cancer

Pat, Have you heard of Dr. Cowden, before going far away, I recommend to see if you can get into see him. He is a MD, written several books, cured lots of people including me so far. He is in Ft. Worth Texas. Fax him at 817-441-2507 or call 817-441-2504. Leave message on recording, and I would fax him brief summary of your condition, double space type and ask direct questions. He is awesome. JA Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

[Guest guest]

HI KEES, I'VE BEEN READING YOUR POSTS FOR MONTHS NOW AND APPRECIATE YOUR

ANIMATED COMMENTS.

LIKE YOU, I'M SKEPTICAL OF PSYCHIC SURGERY EVEN THOUGH I'VE SEEN IRREFUTABLE

EVIDENCE-LIKE SOMEONE TELLING ME RIGHT TO MY FACE HE'D HAD IT DONE TO HIM.

I ALSO SAW YEARS AGO SOMETHING I'D HAVE TO CALL A UFO BUT I STILL DON'T

REALLY BELIEVE IN THEM. I THINK WE HAVE 2 DIFFERENT BRAINS, ONE FOR DOING

DAILY ACTIVITIES AND THE OTHER FOR SOUNDING THE UNIVERSE. IF MY CANCER GOES

THE WRONG WAY INSPITE OF MY EFFORTS, I MAY GO SEE JOHN OF GOD BEFORE IT'S

TOO LATE. I JUST GOT SOME BAD NUMBERS SO AM HOPING A CHANGE OF MEDICATION

WILL HELP BUT I MIGHT JUST HAVE SOME STRONG CANCER HERE THAT WILL NEED MY

OWN PERSONAL SPARK TO CURE.

WE DON'T KNOW ANY DUTCH PEOPLE HERE BUT I CAME FROM GRAND RAPIDS, MICHIGAN

WHICH IS CLOSE TO HOLLAND, MICHIGAN WHICH IS FULL OF DIKE JUMPERS, AS WE USE

TO CALL THEM AS KIDS. MY SISTER MARRIED ONE, KEN KEIZER. WE WERE IN

AMSTERDAM A FEW YEARS AGO WHERE WE GOT STONED ON HASHISH IN ONE OF THOSE TEA

ROOMS.

THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR EFFORTS IN MY BEHALF. I'LL KEEP YOU POSTED. PAT IN

MEXICO

Lung Cancer

> > > > Dear Moonbeam,

> > > > I just found this list last night and need some help and I need

> > > > it quick. I am 47, was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer in

January

> of

> > > > this year.

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Kathleen,

> > > please don't take anything I say as medical

> > advice, rather as

> > > information to discuss with your health professional.

> > > My neighbor was diagnosed in January this year with stage 4 lung

> cancer.

> > Today she has

> > > no detectable cancer. She followed protocol 1. But she also took some

> > chemo and radio.

> > >

> > > >After 4 treatments of Oxygen Tx and Insulin Tx I got two blood

> > > > clots in my neck where the double luminum catheter went in. I got

all

> > my

> > > > Laetrile, vitamin C, chelation Tx but failed the rest. They (Oasis)

> > sent

> > > > me home to do Radiation Tx while continuing on Laetril and

> supplements.

> > >

> > > Please explain exactly the type of oxygen therapy that you had. Was it

> > oxygen therapy or

> > > ozone therapy or peroxide therapy?

> > > There are two types of oxygen therapy that could be useful. Firstly,

the

> > dilute peroxide

> > > bath described in protocol 1. One would be looking at, at least 90

> baths,

> > a lot more

> > > oxygen therapy than the 4 oxygen treatments you paid for. Secondly,

> > breathing dilute

> > > medical ozone gas. This would require a bottle of medical grade oxygen

> and

> > a suitable

> > > ozone generator. This is a bit more complicated, yet in a medical

> journal

> > I posted to the

> > > list, the doctors recommended it for lung cancer.

> > >

> > > Chelation therapy is quite expensive, but good for removing cancer

> causing

> > substances

> > > from the body. However oral chelation therapy using Spirulina is cheap

> and

> > I would

> > > recommend that instead. In terms of value for money there are much

> better

> > therapies than

> > > IV chelation therapy.

> > > When you had Laetrile therapy, was that IV or tablets? Are you still

> > taking the tablets?

> > > Vitamin C is only really useful when taken with a macrophage

activator,

> > such as Beta

> > > glucan. You do not mention that you took Beta glucan, so I assume you

> did

> > not.

> > > Beta glucan is fundamental to immunotherapy against cancer.

> > >

> > > > I then went to Washington Univ. to

> > > > visit a thoracic surgeon who said I too much bulky disease and sent

me

> > > > home to do chemo. City of Hope in Los Angeles did another ct chest

on

> > > > Sept. 7th showing new nodules in both lungs, more extensive

> mediastinal

> > > > adenopathy.

> > >

> > > Clearly the therapy you have been taking is not working well. I would

> > follow protocol 1

> > > for 4 months and then have another Cat Scan. Previously I posted an

> > article showing good

> > > success in clinical trials with throat tumors using injection of

saline

> or

> > ethanol. 86

> > > percent complete remission was found by the authors injecting ethanol

> into

> > throat tumors.

> > >

> > > > The whole while I've been anemic and had required 1 unit then 3

> > > > unit of blood to bring me back to feeling good. This was fine until

> > > > between July 23rd and Aug 23rd when my H & H took a dump and the

cancer

> > >took off growing

> > > again. I've has 2 liters and 2 more liters of blood in the

> > > > last week.

> > >

> > > Previously I posted an article showing that phycocyanin, the blue

> coloring

> > in Spirulina,

> > > stimulated the bone marrow to increase production of red and white

> blood

> > cells.

> > > Spirulina also contains immune stimulating polysaccharides. Protocol 1

> > recommends three

> > > heaped teaspoons of Spirulina powder, electrically mixed

> > > in juice, two or three times per day. This may address the problem of

> > anemia. Clinical

> > > trials of women in Japan showed Spirulina eliminated anemia.

> > >

> > > > I'm on 2 liters of Oxygen at night while sleeping,

> > >

> > > Oxygen gas is not use in oxygen therapy, except for hyperbaric oxygen

> > therapy. Active

> > > forms of oxygen such as ozone or peroxide are used instead.

> > >

> > > > have changed my

> > > > diet trying to maintain an pH enviornment, list essiac tea, coffee

> > enemias

> > > > daily.

> > >

> > > I personally and not convinced of the efficacy of essiac essiac tea.

> > Coffee enema enemas

> > > are used to the toxic by and eliminate waste products produced by

> > immunotherapy. They are

> > > a single element derived from this and therapy. Dr. Gerson says unless

> the

> > enemas are

> > > used with his raw vegetable and fruit juice diet they won't work.

> > >

> > > >I'm... totally inept with

> > > > nutritional/alternative therapy terminology and where to get the

> stuff,

> > > > how to apply it and on and on. I live in Oregon, small town with no

> > > > reputable nutritionist within over 300 miles that I know of. Can

you

> > help

> > > > me? Can you teach me how to fight this cancer with oxygen and

> whatever

> > > > else you know of?

> > > > Anything you could suggest will be heaven sent. Thank you, Michele

> > >

> > > I would order 20 liters of 35 percent food grade hydrogen peroxide

from

> a

> > chemical

> > > Company and 2 or liters of 99 percent grade DMSO. I would also

purchase

> a

> > half kg or 1 kg

> > > of yeast derived Beta glucan, two kg of Vitamin C powder, either

sodium

> > ascorbate, or one

> > > of the new more expensive varieties of vitamin C.

> > > I would purchase the slow speed juicer and start on the vegetable

juice

> > and & therapy.

> > >

> > > I would be taking the dilute peroxide bath twice a day, reheating it

in

> > the afternoon

> > > with an immersion heater.

> > > I would be purchasing the shark liver oil, L-Selenomethionine, vitamin

> E,

> > Laetrile

> > > tablets and as many of the ingredients for protocol 1 as possible. If

I

> > could afford it I

> > > would get a transfer factor suitable for lung cancer.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > moonbeam

> > >

> > >

> > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links

> there.

> > Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

> > visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Pat...check out the new Nov.2001 issue of Alternative Medicine Mag. there's an interesting article on a clinic in Arizona for alternative cancer TX. They have a seven prong attack on cancer that's very impressive. I'm sure it would cost some bucks but everything does. This clinic was recommended to me by a surgeon I know who got so fed up with standard medicine he quit and has been traveling all over the country learning about Alternative med. with a special interest he has in cancer. He thinks this is the best out there. Judy Hoffman

Re: Lung Cancer

Pat, Have you heard of Dr. Cowden, before going far away, I recommend to see if you can get into see him. He is a MD, written several books, cured lots of people including me so far. He is in Ft. Worth Texas. Fax him at 817-441-2507 or call 817-441-2504. Leave message on recording, and I would fax him brief summary of your condition, double space type and ask direct questions. He is awesome. JA Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

[Guest guest]

Judy,

Is there a possibility to read that article digital? In the Netherlands I cann't buy that magazin.

Thanks in advance.

Gr. Kees Braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

Re: Lung Cancer

Pat, Have you heard of Dr. Cowden, before going far away, I recommend to see if you can get into see him. He is a MD, written several books, cured lots of people including me so far. He is in Ft. Worth Texas. Fax him at 817-441-2507 or call 817-441-2504. Leave message on recording, and I would fax him brief summary of your condition, double space type and ask direct questions. He is awesome. JA Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

[Guest guest]

Kees.... I don't know what you mean about reading the article digitally. I don't know enough about computers to know what your talking about. I could copy the article and send you a copy if you send me your mailing address.

Re: Lung Cancer

Pat, Have you heard of Dr. Cowden, before going far away, I recommend to see if you can get into see him. He is a MD, written several books, cured lots of people including me so far. He is in Ft. Worth Texas. Fax him at 817-441-2507 or call 817-441-2504. Leave message on recording, and I would fax him brief summary of your condition, double space type and ask direct questions. He is awesome. JA Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

[Guest guest]

Kees... the website for the magazine I mentioned is www.alternative medicine.com sometimes they have the articles there and you can read them. Judy PS if not I will send it to you

Re: Lung Cancer

Pat, Have you heard of Dr. Cowden, before going far away, I recommend to see if you can get into see him. He is a MD, written several books, cured lots of people including me so far. He is in Ft. Worth Texas. Fax him at 817-441-2507 or call 817-441-2504. Leave message on recording, and I would fax him brief summary of your condition, double space type and ask direct questions. He is awesome. JA Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

[Guest guest]

Judy,

Is the clinic in Arizona the Aiden clinic (i.e. Neil Riordan?)

Best,

-----Original Message-----From: JudyK [mailto:uno-man@...]Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 7:58 AMcures for cancer Subject: Re: Lung Cancer

Kees... the website for the magazine I mentioned is www.alternative medicine.com sometimes they have the articles there and you can read them. Judy PS if not I will send it to you

Re: Lung Cancer

Pat, Have you heard of Dr. Cowden, before going far away, I recommend to see if you can get into see him. He is a MD, written several books, cured lots of people including me so far. He is in Ft. Worth Texas. Fax him at 817-441-2507 or call 817-441-2504. Leave message on recording, and I would fax him brief summary of your condition, double space type and ask direct questions. He is awesome. JA Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

[Guest guest]

...yes I'm speaking of the arizona aidan clinic with Neil Riordan.They have the vaccine made from your tumor. I was on McCoys vaccine for a year until he died about two years ago and the vaccine was unavailable. I also had local hyperthermia and low dose radiation in Memphis,Tenn. from a Dr. Roy Page. This was all a result of breast cancer spreading to neck nodes. I understand that there is a Millinium clinic in Atlanta area that has local hyperthermia offered. I believe Dr. Bergerone(not sure of that spelling) is with that group. He was with Dr. McCoy .

Anyhow I am most likely facing a recurrance in neck nodes and am looking at options other than more radiation or chemo which I have no interest in at this time. It's hard to find everything available in one place. I read about the aidan clinic in Arizona in the Nov. Alternative Medicine Mag. and my surgeon thinks he should do a biopsy and send me to Arizona for that approach.

You said you were familiar with Hyperthermia. Local Hyperthermia is not hard on the person.,but is it effective without the radiation???I can't have more radiation,but I don't want to waste time and money if it needs radiation to be effective.What is your opinion? Thanks, Judy Hoffman

PS my private e-mail is uno-man@...

Re: Lung Cancer

Pat, Have you heard of Dr. Cowden, before going far away, I recommend to see if you can get into see him. He is a MD, written several books, cured lots of people including me so far. He is in Ft. Worth Texas. Fax him at 817-441-2507 or call 817-441-2504. Leave message on recording, and I would fax him brief summary of your condition, double space type and ask direct questions. He is awesome. JA Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

[Guest guest]

Thanks Judy I will take a look at it. And forget my earlier mail, because I wrote that one before I read this one.

Gr. Kees braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

Re: Lung Cancer

Pat, Have you heard of Dr. Cowden, before going far away, I recommend to see if you can get into see him. He is a MD, written several books, cured lots of people including me so far. He is in Ft. Worth Texas. Fax him at 817-441-2507 or call 817-441-2504. Leave message on recording, and I would fax him brief summary of your condition, double space type and ask direct questions. He is awesome. JA Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

[Guest guest]

I've heard stories of people taking HOXSEY and NONI who were

cured from lung cancer. Any Food Medicines which will cleanse

your contaminated blood of toxins, germs, parasites, etc. and

build up your immune system will work for cancer.

Cancer is caused by lack of Food Medicines to cleanse and feed

your body. You can be a chain smoker and never get lung cancer

if the pollutants are cleansed from your lungs. This was seen in

two districts in Russia--they drank LOTS of Kombucha Tea, and

were cancer-free, even though the area around them were so

polluted that the trees and fish were dying.

http://www.kalamark.com/essiac/

Did you know that you can smoke, and if you are religious, your

chances of getting cancer does not increase? The cancer rate is

the same as " virgins " who don't smoke.

http://www.drwhitaker.com/nc/rr_faithhealing_1-01.php

Have any of you tried super-ionized water to detox?

http://www.angelwater.net/how_water_works.html

Did you know that the solution for all environmental problems is

solved--a " smart water " which can change pollutants into amino

acids and pure water. It works on lakes, radioactive wastes,

petroleum--EVERYTHING! [tested over 15 years]

http://www.perfectscience.com

-------------------------

>

> cures for cancer

>From: " Bremner " <dabremner@...>

>Date sent: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 09:57:38 +0100

>Send reply to: cures for cancer

>Subject: RE: reply to 's post

>

>>Does anyone know of any alternative treatment s for non small cel lung cancer

stage IV,

>>Please help, many thanks,

>>

>

> Hi ,

> My neighbour recovered in just 5 months from stage 4 non

small cel

>lung cancer. In january this year she had 10 tumors, today she has no

detectable tumors.

> She followed Protocol 1 and also took conventional treatment.

> Her oncologist said he was extremely surprised at her quick recovery which he

described

>as unusual.

>

> moonbeam

>

>

>

>Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 09:29 PM 10/5/01 -0700, you wrote:

>

>I've heard stories of people taking HOXSEY and NONI who were

>cured from lung cancer. Any Food Medicines which will cleanse

>your contaminated blood of toxins, germs, parasites, etc. and

>build up your immune system will work for cancer. Sounds like fresh,

prperly prepared and properly stored Colloidal Silver. Cliff

>

>Cancer is caused by lack of Food Medicines to cleanse and feed

>your body. You can be a chain smoker and never get lung cancer

>if the pollutants are cleansed from your lungs. This was seen in

>two districts in Russia--they drank LOTS of Kombucha Tea, and

>were cancer-free, even though the area around them were so

>polluted that the trees and fish were dying.

>

>http://www.kalamark.com/essiac/

>

>Did you know that you can smoke, and if you are religious, your

>chances of getting cancer does not increase? The cancer rate is

>the same as " virgins " who don't smoke.

>

>http://www.drwhitaker.com/nc/rr_faithhealing_1-01.php

>

>Have any of you tried super-ionized water to detox?

>

>http://www.angelwater.net/how_water_works.html

>

>Did you know that the solution for all environmental problems is

>solved--a " smart water " which can change pollutants into amino

>acids and pure water. It works on lakes, radioactive wastes,

>petroleum--EVERYTHING! [tested over 15 years]

>

>http://www.perfectscience.com

>

>

> -------------------------

>>

>

>> cures for cancer

>>From: " Bremner " <dabremner@...>

>>Date sent: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 09:57:38 +0100

>>Send reply to: cures for cancer

>>Subject: RE: reply to 's post

>>

>>>Does anyone know of any alternative treatment s for non small cel lung

cancer stage IV,

>>>Please help, many thanks,

>>>

>>

>> Hi ,

>> My neighbour recovered in just 5 months from stage 4

non small cel

>>lung cancer. In january this year she had 10 tumors, today she has no

detectable tumors.

>> She followed Protocol 1 and also took conventional treatment.

>> Her oncologist said he was extremely surprised at her quick recovery

which he described

>>as unusual.

>>

>> moonbeam

>>

>>

>>

>>Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

I'm still waiting for the story of the neighbour/nurse written by herself.

Gr. Kees Braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

RE: reply to 's post

>

> >Does anyone know of any alternative treatment s for non small cel lung

cancer stage IV,

> >Please help, many thanks,

> >

>

> Hi ,

> My neighbour recovered in just 5 months from stage 4

non small cel

> lung cancer. In january this year she had 10 tumors, today she has no

detectable tumors.

> She followed Protocol 1 and also took conventional treatment.

> Her oncologist said he was extremely surprised at her quick recovery

which he described

> as unusual.

>

> moonbeam

>

>

>

> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

>

>

[Guest guest]

From: Cliff Hume <humec@...>

Date sent: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 21:35:43 -0700

Send reply to: cures for cancer

Subject: Re: Lung Cancer

Hi,

This is a reply to several messages today.

To purify water an economical choice is an activated carbon water filter.

The best and dearest water filter is called a reverse osmosis, though very

wasteful of

water.

Noni is a type of beta glucan called beta-1,6-glucan or mannin, similar in

action to

yeast derived beta-1,3-glucan, though much dearer than yeast beta glucan.

A medical specialist told me he beieves it is the Dioxin in the bleached

paper that is

the most carcinogenic part of the cigarette. He told me the lung cancer rate is

very low

in India, where cigarettes are rolled in a pure tobacco leaf, with no bleached

paper

used.

If I had any type of cancer I would follow Protocol 1. A combination of

several,

clinically proven, cancer-cure therapies.

I have written about Kombucha on this list before and suspect that it contains

a type

of beta glucan.

Home made Pineapple Juice, made in the special slow speed juicer is a good

source of

Bromelain. It is used to remove the protective coating from the tumor and also

to boost

anti-tumor cytokine levels.

Once this protective coating is removed the activated macrophages can attack

the

caner, no matter what type of cancer it is. Many anti tumor chemicals are made

by the

beta glucan activated macrophage, but lots of vitamin C is needed to fuel these

beta

glucan activated macrophages. Macrophages are normally asleep, dormant, inactive

and

noramally will not attack the tumor. They need to be activated by beta glucan to

wake

them up and get them to attack the cancer. See Protocol 1 for details.

An economical form of Oxygen Therapy, for use at home, is outlined in Protocol

1.

> At 09:29 PM 10/5/01 -0700, you wrote:

> >

> >I've heard stories of people taking HOXSEY and NONI who were

> >cured from lung cancer. Any Food Medicines which will cleanse

> >your contaminated blood of toxins, germs, parasites, etc. and

> >build up your immune system will work for cancer. Sounds like fresh,

> prperly prepared and properly stored Colloidal Silver. Cliff

> >

> >Cancer is caused by lack of Food Medicines to cleanse and feed

> >your body. You can be a chain smoker and never get lung cancer

> >if the pollutants are cleansed from your lungs. This was seen in

> >two districts in Russia--they drank LOTS of Kombucha Tea, and

> >were cancer-free, even though the area around them were so

> >polluted that the trees and fish were dying.

> >

> >http://www.kalamark.com/essiac/

> >

> >Did you know that you can smoke, and if you are religious, your

> >chances of getting cancer does not increase? The cancer rate is

> >the same as " virgins " who don't smoke.

> >

> >http://www.drwhitaker.com/nc/rr_faithhealing_1-01.php

> >

> >Have any of you tried super-ionized water to detox?

> >

> >http://www.angelwater.net/how_water_works.html

> >

> >Did you know that the solution for all environmental problems is

> >solved--a " smart water " which can change pollutants into amino

> >acids and pure water. It works on lakes, radioactive wastes,

> >petroleum--EVERYTHING! [tested over 15 years]

> >

> >http://www.perfectscience.com

> >

> >

> > -------------------------

> >>

> >

> >> cures for cancer

> >>From: " Bremner " <dabremner@...>

> >>Date sent: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 09:57:38 +0100

> >>Send reply to: cures for cancer

> >>Subject: RE: reply to 's post

> >>

> >>>Does anyone know of any alternative treatment s for non small cel lung

> cancer stage IV,

> >>>Please help, many thanks,> >>>

> >>

> >> Hi ,

> >> My neighbour recovered in just 5 months from stage 4

> non small cel

> >>lung cancer. In january this year she had 10 tumors, today she has no

> detectable tumors.

> >> She followed Protocol 1 and also took conventional treatment.

> >> Her oncologist said he was extremely surprised at her quick recovery

> which he described

> >>as unusual.

> >> > >> moonbeam

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links

> >>there.

> Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

> visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv >> >>

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>have started radiation and want to start chemo soon. I keep hearing

>terrible things about it and would like some information on alternative

>methods of & quot;curing & quot; him. I believe that we can heal ourselves

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From: Hurt <rmhurt@...>

Date sent: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:34:55 -0500

Send reply to: cures for cancer

Subject: Fwd: lung cancer

> >Name:

> >Email: elizondoteresa@...

> >Comments: My father has recently been diagnosed w/an aggressive form of

> >lung cancer w/tumors on his hip bone, sternum, and 2 on his spine. They

> >have started radiation and want to start chemo soon. I keep hearing

> >terrible things about it and would like some information on alternative

> >methods of & quot;curing & quot; him. I believe that we can heal ourselves

> >through diet, exercise and mental attitude, I would like to have

> >something to show him. Please send me any information you have

> >available. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Hi,

my neighbour was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer in January this

year, 10

tumors. Today she has no tumors. She decided to follow Protocol 1 in addition to

standard treatment.

moonbeam

[Guest guest]

Moonbeam,

2 things please. Can you give me the exact protocol she followed and how long had she been diagnosed with lung cancer stage IV,

Look forward to hearing from you soon,

>From: moonbeam@... >Reply-cures for cancer >cures for cancer >Subject: Re: Fwd: lung cancer >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:31:25 +1100 > >From: Hurt

>Date sent: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:34:55 -0500 >Send reply to: cures for cancer >Subject: Fwd: lung cancer > > >Name: > > >Email: elizondoteresa@... > > >Comments: My father has recently been diagnosed w/an aggressive form of > > >lung cancer w/tumors on his hip bone, sternum, and 2 on his spine. They > > >have started radiation and want to start chemo soon. I keep hearing > > >terrible things about it and would like some information on alternative > > >methods of "curing" him. I believe that we can heal ourselves > > >through diet, exercise and mental attitude, I would like to have > > >something to show him. Please send me any information you have > > >available. Thank you for your time and consideration. > > Hi, > my neighbour was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer in January this year, 10 >tumors. Today she has no tumors. She decided to follow Protocol 1 in addition to >standard treatment. > > moonbeam Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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cures for cancer

From: " Bremner " <dabremner@...>

Date sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:34:44 +0000

Send reply to: cures for cancer

Subject: Re: Fwd: lung cancer

>Moonbeam,

>2 things please. Can you give me the exact protocol she follwed and how long

had

>she been diagnosed with lung cancer stage IV,

>

Hi ,

The particular woman is former nurse who worked ten years in

cancer

clinical trials. I have never met a person more opposed to alternative medicine

than

her.

Her husband, also a nurse, supports alternative medicine and convinced her to

take

supplements.

She took conventional treatment, which in her case meant less than 10% chance

of

survival.

She had another CT Scan this week which again showed no tumors.

She was diagnosed in January this year with stage 4 L.C. , 10 tumors, average

size

only 1.5cm diameter.

She followed Protocol 1, took the bath, B17, enzymes, selenium, vit E + C,

yeast

derived beta glucan 2 gms daily, got a juicer, pineapples and papaya, flax oil,

sprouts, cooked tomato, stabilized oxygen drops, spirulina. She may have taken

broccoli sprouts, I would have to ring to check on that.

She also took conventional treatment and does not advocate supplements, even

now,

though her husband does.

By late July/August a CT scan showed no visible tumors left.

moonbeam

[Guest guest]

Moonbeam,

I am curious as to where her cancer had metastasized.

My husband has Stage IV lung cancer and I have had a

hard time finding survivors at that stage with any

type of treatment. What type of lung cancer did she

have? It is unbelievable that she is still not an

advocate for the alternative treatments. Does she

believe the conventional treatment was responsible for

her remission?

Cheryl

--- moonbeam@... wrote:

>

> cures for cancer

> From: " Bremner "

> <dabremner@...>

> Date sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:34:44 +0000

> Send reply to: cures for cancer

> Subject: Re: Fwd: lung cancer

> >Moonbeam,

> >2 things please. Can you give me the exact

> protocol she follwed and how long had

> >she been diagnosed with lung cancer stage IV,

> >

>

> Hi ,

> The particular woman is former

> nurse who worked ten years in cancer

> clinical trials. I have never met a person more

> opposed to alternative medicine than

> her.

>

> Her husband, also a nurse, supports alternative

> medicine and convinced her to take

> supplements.

> She took conventional treatment, which in her case

> meant less than 10% chance of

> survival.

> She had another CT Scan this week which again

> showed no tumors.

> She was diagnosed in January this year with stage

> 4 L.C. , 10 tumors, average size

> only 1.5cm diameter.

> She followed Protocol 1, took the bath, B17,

> enzymes, selenium, vit E + C, yeast

> derived beta glucan 2 gms daily, got a juicer,

> pineapples and papaya, flax oil,

> sprouts, cooked tomato, stabilized oxygen drops,

> spirulina. She may have taken

> broccoli sprouts, I would have to ring to check on

> that.

> She also took conventional treatment and does not

> advocate supplements, even now,

> though her husband does.

> By late July/August a CT scan showed no visible

> tumors left.

>

> moonbeam

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

Can somebody tell me what is protocol 1?

Where can I get B17 and stabilised oxygen drops?

THanks a lot

Mike

--- Cheryl Wilburn <jcwilburn@...> wrote:

> Moonbeam,

>

> I am curious as to where her cancer had

> metastasized.

> My husband has Stage IV lung cancer and I have had a

> hard time finding survivors at that stage with any

> type of treatment. What type of lung cancer did she

> have? It is unbelievable that she is still not an

> advocate for the alternative treatments. Does she

> believe the conventional treatment was responsible

> for

> her remission?

>

> Cheryl

>

> --- moonbeam@... wrote:

> >

> > cures for cancer

> > From: " Bremner "

> > <dabremner@...>

> > Date sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:34:44 +0000

> > Send reply to: cures for cancer

> > Subject: Re: Fwd: lung cancer

> > >Moonbeam,

> > >2 things please. Can you give me the exact

> > protocol she follwed and how long had

> > >she been diagnosed with lung cancer stage IV,

> > >

> >

> > Hi ,

> > The particular woman is former

> > nurse who worked ten years in cancer

> > clinical trials. I have never met a person more

> > opposed to alternative medicine than

> > her.

> >

> > Her husband, also a nurse, supports alternative

> > medicine and convinced her to take

> > supplements.

> > She took conventional treatment, which in her

> case

> > meant less than 10% chance of

> > survival.

> > She had another CT Scan this week which again

> > showed no tumors.

> > She was diagnosed in January this year with

> stage

> > 4 L.C. , 10 tumors, average size

> > only 1.5cm diameter.

> > She followed Protocol 1, took the bath, B17,

> > enzymes, selenium, vit E + C, yeast

> > derived beta glucan 2 gms daily, got a juicer,

> > pineapples and papaya, flax oil,

> > sprouts, cooked tomato, stabilized oxygen drops,

> > spirulina. She may have taken

> > broccoli sprouts, I would have to ring to check on

> > that.

> > She also took conventional treatment and does not

> > advocate supplements, even now,

> > though her husband does.

> > By late July/August a CT scan showed no visible

> > tumors left.

> >

> > moonbeam

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Cliff,

Please, don't take it bad, but I was really hopeful the

flax/CC would help my mom. Maybe we used it too late,

but the thing is that we gave her between 2 and 4

tbspoon for about 3 weeks, and you know which was the

final response. How i wish my mom had been another

successful case in flaxseed history, but it wasn't.

Anyway, I wish there would be better cases than my

mom's, because I would like to share this knowledgbe

with other cancer patients in Peru that may be helped

with this treatment, but they may not be so trustful

after I tell them that it wasn't a good treatment for

my mom.

God bless you all,

carlos

Mensaje citado por: Cliff Beckwith <spinner@...>:

> HI,

>

> The night before last I watched a TV program which,

among other things,

> showed diagrams of a person's lung and told about a

new method of detecting

> lung cancer at a very early stage and possibly making

treatment more

> effective.

>

> The speaker said that lung cancer was one of the

worst forms of cancer with

> only 8% survival. I imagine that he meant that 92%

of lung cancer patients

> would die from the lung cancer.

>

> The new method of detection would give hope for the

future and was quite

> newsworthy.

>

> From what we have seen so far in just the situations

of which I know the

> FO/CC approach is far more effective than that. In

fact, of the ones with

> which I am familiar so far there are none that did

not respond.

>

> One situation is in the balance. This is a fast

growing cancer that has

> had

> no standard treatment [the person involved did not

want that] and the use

> of

> flax oil has stopped the growth of the tumor but the

last I heard it had

> not

> disappeared. She will no more in February. There

has been definite

> response to the FO/CC but time will tell whether or

not it becomes

> complete.

>

> If this were the result of scientific research

through trials that were not

> primarily done with anticipation of future profits it

would be very

> newsworthy.

>

> Cliff

>

>

>

>