Guest guest Posted July 14, 2000 Report Share Posted July 14, 2000 Thanks for the info. Cliff, I am a lung cancer survivor in remission for a little over a year ago, and about a month ago started taking flax oil and cottage cheese, and will continue forever hopefully, I have only heard good things about it. It doesn't taste to bad and the benefits seem unbelievalbe. Thanks for all your info. its a constant inspiration to me, we have corresponded before. St.sburg Fl ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2000 Report Share Posted July 15, 2000 I'm taking flax seed oil and cottage cheese every day as a preventive, and my daughter aged 38 is doing the same. We are taking 1 tbsp mixed with approx 1/4 - 1/3 cup of cottage cheese. Do you think this is enough??? My husband died of pancreatic cancer. We tried several alternatives, but cancer was too aggressive. From my limited research, flaxseed oil and cottagecheese seem to hold the most promise. Also Cancell seems to have some promise. Of course not everything will work for everyone. Wishing you good health Carol B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2000 Report Share Posted July 15, 2000 Hi, Dr. Budwig recommends one tablespoon of flax oil per hundred pounds body weight for meaintenance of the needed Omege 3 with cottage cheese or a protein source along with it, mixed together first. Cliff B Re: Lung cancer >I'm taking flax seed oil and cottage cheese every day as a preventive, and my >daughter aged 38 is doing the same. We are taking 1 tbsp mixed with approx >1/4 - 1/3 cup of cottage cheese. Do you think this is enough??? > >My husband died of pancreatic cancer. We tried several alternatives, but >cancer was too aggressive. From my limited research, flaxseed oil and >cottagecheese seem to hold the most promise. Also Cancell seems to have >some promise. Of course not everything will work for everyone. >Wishing you good health >Carol B > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To email plain text is conventional, to add graphics is divine. >We'll show you how at www.supersig.com. >1/6808/13/_/378/_/963674148/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2000 Report Share Posted July 16, 2000 Hi. To those who have cancer I would suggest they take six B17 Vitamins (500mgs) per day. Six B15 Vitamins per day and six Pancreatic Enzymes per day. These three pills can be taken at the same time. It has helped a family member who has been on limited chemo with small cell lung carcinoma that began with a 4 centimeter tumor that had been reduced to the size of a nodule within three months. She now takes half of the amount to keep the site of the tumor from producing more deadly cancer cells and to destroy those that are roaming within her body. I hope this will be of help to someone else. I will pray for those who are ill. God bless and may God the Father give us the wisdom to combat this cancer to help those that are dear to our hearts and soul. Ciro@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2000 Report Share Posted July 16, 2000 Hello everyone I am new to the group. I am here because a dear friend of mine is in hospital with a fast growing tumour in his small intestine. The doctors are now giving up on him and he has (supposedly) 3 months to live. My friend is not accepting this nor am I. We are trying to bring as many natural healing methods into his life as possible. He and his wife are very receptive to " alternatives " . Even the nurses are encouraging him - I guess because they know there is nothing they can do (Chemotherapy had proved unsuccessful and radiation not possible because of the size of the tumour). I am curious as to the flax oil and cottage cheese. I have never heard of this combination before. Maybe I missed an earlier post since I have just joined the group. My questions: 1. Who is this method based on? 2. How does it work? 3. How many times a day does one take this combination? 4. How much cottage cheese is mixed with the flax oil? 5. Is this cottage cheese from bovine dairy? 6. Does anyone " gag " on having to take this concoction? To me, it seems unpalliative. Thank you Siu-Lan Ontario Cliff Beckwith wrote: > > Hi, > > Dr. Budwig recommends one tablespoon of flax oil per hundred pounds body > weight for meaintenance of the needed Omege 3 with cottage cheese or a > protein source along with it, mixed together first. > > Cliff B > > Re: Lung cancer > > >I'm taking flax seed oil and cottage cheese every day as a preventive, and > my > >daughter aged 38 is doing the same. We are taking 1 tbsp mixed with > approx > >1/4 - 1/3 cup of cottage cheese. Do you think this is enough??? > > > >My husband died of pancreatic cancer. We tried several alternatives, but > >cancer was too aggressive. From my limited research, flaxseed oil and > >cottagecheese seem to hold the most promise. Also Cancell seems to have > >some promise. Of course not everything will work for everyone. > >Wishing you good health > >Carol B > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >To email plain text is conventional, to add graphics is divine. > >We'll show you how at www.supersig.com. > >1/6808/13/_/378/_/963674148/ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. > Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by > visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Life's too short to send boring email. Let SuperSig come to the rescue. > 1/6809/13/_/378/_/963681338/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2000 Report Share Posted July 22, 2000 Cliff, I read much of what you wrote, and I visited your son's website. On the plus side, you don't seem to be selling anything. You are also a success story in cancer it seems. Though it's hard to verify, you sound honest to me for whatever that's worth. I'm very glad you are doing so well. I don't know much at all about Johanna Budwig, and on a websearch I couldn't find much. I just don't know, but the bigger her claims, the more I want proof. The testimonials you gave are interesting, but it's so risky to rely on testimonials without knowing all the details, and if they are indeed true for certain. In your case Cliff, you said you were treated with Lupron and Eulexin. How do you know that this standard treatment did not contribute to your success? I don't know much about prostate cancer, but you say you had stage 4 because of lymph system involvement. Please forgive my questioning on such a serious matter, but I thought distant metastasis beyond the lymph system usually mean stage 4. Your beliefs about the totally corrupt nature of the cancer industry I find hard to accept. I can't prove you're wrong, but based on what I know, my view of them is not so negative. Thanks for the information you submitted, Bill Ross Cliff Beckwith wrote: > Dear Bill, > > These things are things I know about, and they are not complete. They are > not quackery. > > This is effective, and it is not the only alternative that is effective. > > I am over halfway between 78 and 79. My course is set for whatever time I > have left. > > It saddens me that the money angle is more important to American Oncology > than the lives of people. > > I am going to attatch another document that may be of interest. > > It would thrill me to see American medicine do some serious research on this > but it will never happen. It would kill profits rather than increase them. > > Research is for profit and this would kill profit. It is as simple as that. > > Cliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2000 Report Share Posted July 22, 2000 Please and Bill, keep this ranting private... no one else needs it. Thank you. Inez >From: " Webster " <michelle@...> >Reply-cures for canceregroups >cures for canceregroups >Subject: Re: lung cancer >Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 20:04:48 -0000 > > > > Cliff, > > > > I read much of what you wrote, and I visited your son's website. >On >the plus > > side, you don't seem to be selling anything. > >What you are selling here, Bill? > >Because I don't buy it. > >Smells like dead fish to me. > >What's the point, Bill, what gives? What is your motivation? Let us >have the punch line.... because you aren't totally clean yet. > >Hundreds of miles of internet between us, and you know what, Bill?? > >You are hiding something. > >I'll play your little cat and mouse game, of inuendo and suppositions >with you. Send us to your website, dearie.... what was it, again??? >quackwatch.com? > >Being, > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Huge Shoe Selection at Zappos.com >(small sizes also available) >1/7062/13/_/378/_/964296291/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. >Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by >visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2000 Report Share Posted July 22, 2000 > Cliff, > > I read much of what you wrote, and I visited your son's website. On the plus > side, you don't seem to be selling anything. What you are selling here, Bill? Because I don't buy it. Smells like dead fish to me. What's the point, Bill, what gives? What is your motivation? Let us have the punch line.... because you aren't totally clean yet. Hundreds of miles of internet between us, and you know what, Bill?? You are hiding something. I'll play your little cat and mouse game, of inuendo and suppositions with you. Send us to your website, dearie.... what was it, again??? quackwatch.com? Being, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2000 Report Share Posted July 22, 2000 As Roy once said (or was that Will?) " Some Quacks are doctors " ...doesn't that say it all. Why the arguing? We have here on this website, apparantly, more ego problems than anything else. " Just the facts, please " , backed up by legitimate references (not some friends cousins brother-in-law who heard flax oil cured their cocker spaniel..and don't get on me, I take the stuff too.. Best, JR > Cliff, > > I read much of what you wrote, and I visited your son's website. On the plus > side, you don't seem to be selling anything. What you are selling here, Bill? Because I don't buy it. Smells like dead fish to me. What's the point, Bill, what gives? What is your motivation? Let us have the punch line.... because you aren't totally clean yet. Hundreds of miles of internet between us, and you know what, Bill?? You are hiding something. I'll play your little cat and mouse game, of inuendo and suppositions with you. Send us to your website, dearie.... what was it, again??? quackwatch.com? Being, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Huge Shoe Selection at Zappos.com (small sizes also available) 1/7062/13/_/378/_/964296291/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2000 Report Share Posted July 22, 2000 I have only been on this list for about two weeks and I think it is very very sad that this type of war with personal opinions of each others views is even going on. No one person can present any facts about any treatment except for personal experience for themselves, or a family member or friend. It is a very personal choice what a person decides to use, and if it works, Thank God and share so that someone else may try it. What method works for one may not work for another, what works for anyone is worth trying, and if it takes everything combined together, again Thank God. As far as I am concerned no religious group has all of the the answers to God, just like no one doctor has all the knowlege about every person and how to help them. All of us are individuals with different body make ups due to past genes from many different cultures. My husband also has Chron's Disease and he was told that this is a Jewish Disease, he has it, his sister,his niece and his daughter has it, yet they want them to be in a study to see if it runs in families. It is not productive to have verbal war fare if your true intent is to offer information to help people. All you have to do is share what you have heard that works , not try to choke your opinion down someone else's throats, else you appear to be controlling with no intentions to help anyone but your own egotistical need to be right. As a woman , my experiences with doctors is very different than most mens. You could talk untill you died, and my experience's are truth to me, and not good experiences 80% of the time. Had I not decided to seek other medical advice after reading and talking to others, I would have died with a Tubal Pregnancy, my nerves in my right hand would have died from strangulation, and I would have suffered unneeded pain because I had a doctor who did not believe in pain medication after he did a hysterectomy. This same doctor failed to tell me about, or give me hormones after surgery, and my body went crazy for years before I found out the reason. They say hormones are not safe for woman, maybe not, but my quality of life without them is not worth living . My personal choice is to take them and have as much quality of life with the life I have left. I really don't give a dam what science say's, I know my body better than anyone else.................................................................... I personaly want to hear all sides so I can try and get my husband what will work for him, I don't need anyone's need to be right. I find it insulting that anyone would think that everyone on this list is so ignorant that they will not weigh what is presented. There are to many influences in each individuals lives to pretend what worked for one person will work for everyone. My grandmother used peach tree leaves that were beaten into a pulp for infection, it worked and it drew out infection, yet you do not hear anyone using this old method today. There have been many old time remedies that worked but have been lost due to our modern day Science, then they suddenly announce that they came up with a new cure for something that was known hundreds of years ago. If science cannot prove God, how can we dare to put all of our faith in Science. The Bible tells us that all man will ever need for his cures are already here, in the roots, the leaves, etc. Please share what you know that has worked for you or someone else you know, my husband and I both are intelligent enough to decide for ourselves if we want to use it or not. This is suppose to be a free country, and freedom to me is personal choices without goverment, or Science deciding for us. I am not lame enough to think that I wouldn't try anything and everything to save someone I love. Science and doctors have been proven wrong to many times for me to put all of my faith in what they say. I don't have a need to be right, I just want people to share what they have learned without the egotistical debates that serves absolutly no one. Only God has all of the answers, not man! Please allow those of us who are searching seriously all avenues to help ourselves, or someone we love. Spare us endless debates and state what you know and allow the other's to do the same. You are taking up valuable time and space that hurts people more than it ever could help. This list sounds like Junior High when it is suppose to serve very very ill people. Reading some of the messages would drain a well persons strength, God forbide what it does to someone sick researching for themselves. Bonnie H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2000 Report Share Posted July 23, 2000 There is a naturopathic M.D. whom I have known for 20 yrs, who has had a lot of success with (1) ozone therapy, (2) reduced glutathione, (which has medical documentation form Europe where is has been used for years) and recently has added (3) calcium d-glucarate (patented by M.D. , the #2 cancer treatment center in the U.S.) Although the major research on Cal D gluc's has been as a detoxifier & thus in a preventative role, it has been shown to decrease lung, skin, liver, breast & colon cancers by 60% or more by a PhD researcher in Ireland. He also needs to reduce the toxic chemicals in his environment because the free radicals from toxic chemicals is what causes cancer. For more info, e-mail me at hhadvisory@.... Kay Heizer Re: Lung cancer >> >> >I'm taking flax seed oil and cottage cheese every day as a preventive, and >> my >> >daughter aged 38 is doing the same. We are taking 1 tbsp mixed with >> approx >> >1/4 - 1/3 cup of cottage cheese. Do you think this is enough??? >> > >> >My husband died of pancreatic cancer. We tried several alternatives, but >> >cancer was too aggressive. From my limited research, flaxseed oil and >> >cottagecheese seem to hold the most promise. Also Cancell seems to have >> >some promise. Of course not everything will work for everyone. >> >Wishing you good health >> >Carol B >> > >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >To email plain text is conventional, to add graphics is divine. >> >We'll show you how at www.supersig.com. >> >1/6808/13/_/378/_/963674148/ >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> >Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. >> Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by >> visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv >> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Life's too short to send boring email. Let SuperSig come to the rescue. >> 1/6809/13/_/378/_/963681338/ >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Get great brand name shoes with just the click of a mouse. Check out >the huge selection at Zappos.com, the Web's Most Popular Store! >1/6994/13/_/378/_/963759237/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2000 Report Share Posted July 24, 2000 Hi Siu-Lan Sorry to hear that your friend has this cancer. I'm praying your friend will receive Jesus as Savior and be born again if he/she hasn't already done so. None of us are here very long, but we can be forever in heaven with God with sins forgiven. About the cancer, I enjoy flax and cottage cheese from time to time, but the Budwig diet has not made a noticeable difference in my cancer symptoms (mycosis fungoides). I suggest you call N.I.E.S., and tell them about your friend's situation. I've been using their product " Compin " with some encouraging results. They make no claims to cure cancer, and they're not doctors, but they seem knowledgeable. 1-800- 593-9780. Neil ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2000 Report Share Posted July 24, 2000 Hi neil, I am curious by what you mean " from time to time " . It has been our experience that if this is to be successful it must be used regularly, in sufficient quantity, and with the right protein. I ran into trouble by not doing those things. From time to time won't get it done if I read you correctly. Cliff Re: Lung cancer >Hi Siu-Lan > >Sorry to hear that your friend has this cancer. > >I'm praying your friend will receive Jesus as Savior and be born again if >he/she hasn't already done so. None of us are here very long, but we can >be forever in heaven with God with sins forgiven. > >About the cancer, I enjoy flax and cottage cheese from time to time, but >the Budwig diet >has not made a noticeable difference in my cancer symptoms (mycosis >fungoides). > >I suggest you call N.I.E.S., and tell them about your friend's situation. >I've been using their product " Compin " with some encouraging results. >They make no claims to cure cancer, and they're not doctors, but they >seem knowledgeable. 1-800- 593-9780. > >Neil > >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. >Remember the good 'ol days >1/7076/13/_/378/_/964443561/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2000 Report Share Posted July 24, 2000 AMEN! Re: lung cancer> >Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 20:04:48 -0000> >> >> > > Cliff,> > >> > > I read much of what you wrote, and I visited your son's website.> >On> >the plus> > > side, you don't seem to be selling anything.> >> >What you are selling here, Bill?> >> >Because I don't buy it.> >> >Smells like dead fish to me.> >> >What's the point, Bill, what gives? What is your motivation? Let us> >have the punch line.... because you aren't totally clean yet.> >> >Hundreds of miles of internet between us, and you know what, Bill??> >> >You are hiding something.> >> >I'll play your little cat and mouse game, of inuendo and suppositions> >with you. Send us to your website, dearie.... what was it, again???> >quackwatch.com?> >> >Being,> >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------> >Huge Shoe Selection at Zappos.com> >(small sizes also available)> >1/7062/13/_/378/_/964296291/> >------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> >Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. > >Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by > >visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv> >> > ________________________________________________________________________> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> To email plain text is conventional, to add graphics is divine. > We'll show you how at www.supersig.com.> 1/6811/13/_/378/_/964396104/> ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2000 Report Share Posted July 24, 2000 What is Compin? Re: Lung cancer Hi Siu-LanSorry to hear that your friend has this cancer. We are all sorry to hear about anybody that has cancer..and on this list. this is the reason we are all out here trying to find for each other answers. I try to keep files handy..and believe me my cabnet is bulging from all four sides..one day I'm going to sort, and get rid of some data, and if anybody would like the copies, your welcome to them..Just let me know..I might even be able to scan a few. I've kept many good things I've taken off the cancer-list, and through the past two years have had bon-fires. Enough to have written a fairly large medical book..My draw back..I had no proff to a lot of data, rather it was truth or fiction..and I want true testimonal stories..where I'm able to research and interview that person myself before I write about any given subject. There are a some of you I'd enjoy talking with.And others I'd take, and toss out, with a grain of salt. Sincerely, One of Your Best Friends, JudyI've been using their product "Compin" with some encouraging results.They make no claims to cure cancer, and they're not doctors, but theyseem knowledgeable. 1-800- 593-9780. Neil ________________________________________________________________YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit:http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2000 Report Share Posted September 23, 2000 my name is bill three years ago i was diagnosed wiht non-small cell lung cancer. it was a small spot, and they operated, removed i/3 of the lung and 25% of the other becase of suspicious scars that the ct scan couldn't see thru. they tole me they were sure they had gotten it all, and each six months that passed, i would be more likley not to have a recurrence. the recurrence came at the end of the FIRST 6 month period. at this point, my doctor told me to go home and get myaffairs in order. he then sent me to an oncologist, and i told him i wanted the most aggressive treatment. i was on lots of chemo, and 40 radiation treatments. in addition, i took laetrille, and ate apricot seeds. i also took several other anti-oxidants after praying for guidance. i prayed cnostantly, and many others prayed for me..i went to hte elders of a church of god, andhad hands laid on me. at the onset, the oncologist told me i had at best 1 chance in three in being alive for long. i had ct scans every 3 months, and now after 18 months wiht no change, they have stretched the interval to 6 months. my oncologist told me that now i have a chance. what i have said is this: #1 prayer for guidance #2 follow the oncologist protocol #3 take whatever alternatives you feel God has directed u to take #4 with the help of God, keep the very best attitude possible, and exert your will to live if you believe in God as i do, read Psalm 103...........it is so reasurring God Bless and Heal you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2000 Report Share Posted September 23, 2000 Hi. In Sept. of 1999, a relative of mine was diagnosed with a 4 centimeter tumor (small cell lung carcinoma ) when I began to give her Laetrile (B17), B15, pancreatic enzymes tablets and apricot seeds before she started her first major chemo session in the hospital. Her Oncologist was planning to give her 5 or 6 of these major (chemo) sessions. She had completed her third session when it was discovered that the tumor had shruken down to a small nodule by Xmas. Since then she has been on maintence chemo and doing fine. The only problem now is that some demon in the FDA has managed to get a Federal Judge to ban the sale of Laetrile (B17) to the citizens of our country by regurgitating the same old garbage about it like the other demons before her reign as Queen of the FDA. Little by little our government allows such Behemoths such as the FDA to strip our civil rights away until one day we will be left with none. I would urge you to look up sites that once sold Laetrile (B17) to seek your answer to your question. Good luck. Ciro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2000 Report Share Posted September 23, 2000 If you look to God for comfort, you can't do wrong. Search Dr. Hulda 's web site and see if this gives you any ideas on what else you can do to keep the cancer from coming back. God bless you and your courage. Re: lung cancer > > my name is bill > > three years ago i was diagnosed wiht non-small cell lung cancer. it was a > small spot, and they operated, removed i/3 of the lung and 25% of the other > becase of suspicious scars that the ct scan couldn't see thru. they tole me > they were sure they had gotten it all, and each six months that passed, i > would be more likley not to have a recurrence. the recurrence came at the > end of the FIRST 6 month period. at this point, my doctor told me to go home > and get myaffairs in order. he then sent me to an oncologist, and i told him > i wanted the most aggressive treatment. i was on lots of chemo, and 40 > radiation treatments. > > in addition, i took laetrille, and ate apricot seeds. i also took several > other anti-oxidants after praying for guidance. i prayed cnostantly, and > many others prayed for me..i went to hte elders of a church of god, andhad > hands laid on me. at the onset, the oncologist told me i had at best 1 > chance in three in being alive for long. > > i had ct scans every 3 months, and now after 18 months wiht no change, they > have stretched the interval to 6 months. my oncologist told me that now i > have a chance. > > > what i have said is this: > #1 prayer for guidance > #2 follow the oncologist protocol > #3 take whatever alternatives you feel God has directed u to take > #4 with the help of God, keep the very best attitude possible, and exert your > will to live > > if you believe in God as i do, read Psalm 103...........it is so reasurring > > God Bless and Heal you > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2000 Report Share Posted September 24, 2000 Hi, this is from St. Pete. Bch. in Fl. I was diagnosed in Aug. of 98 with stage 3b nsclc, and also was told to go home and take care of my affairs, well it is now almost Oct. of 2000 and I'm still here and have been in remission since March of 99 and feeling great. I also went through chemo, and radiation and am now on alot of antioxidants, eat fairly well for a single man, take flaxoil and cottage cheese every day and try to have a positive attitude at all times. If you would like any info. on what I take please let me know, and if there is anyone out there that can suggest any thing that I should be doing to keep this demon from coming back, please don't hesitate to e-mail me personally or on this site. I am having one major problem, I'm finding it hard to decide how to live my life. Do I live for today or live for the future? When I first got sick I of course was depressed, angry , and started to spend all my money, now that I might live, I'm almost broke, how ironical!! Seriously though, can anyone offer any advise or reading material to help me out with this, certainly I can't be the only one with this fear. Thanks very much, _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2000 Report Share Posted September 24, 2000 , first of all congradulations on your remission and continuing good health!!!! Sounds like your doing the " right " things!!! As to living for the present or the future it seems to me the answer to that is, that the present is what is real so by all means live in the present. The future is only a " mind thing " it has no substance. It hasn't arrived yet!!! If you live for the future you will surely miss being in the present fully. Judy offman( another Florida person) doing my best to live in the present and be thankful for it Re: lung cancer > > Hi, this is from St. Pete. Bch. in Fl. I was diagnosed in Aug. of 98 > with stage 3b nsclc, and also was told to go home and take care of my > affairs, well it is now almost Oct. of 2000 and I'm still here and have been > in remission since March of 99 and feeling great. > > I also went through chemo, and radiation and am now on alot of antioxidants, > eat fairly well for a single man, take flaxoil and cottage cheese every day > and try to have a positive attitude at all times. If you would like any > info. on what I take please let me know, and if there is anyone out there > that can suggest any thing that I should be doing to keep this demon from > coming back, please don't hesitate to e-mail me personally or on this site. > > I am having one major problem, I'm finding it hard to decide how to live my > life. Do I live for today or live for the future? When I first got sick I of > course was depressed, angry , and started to spend all my money, now that I > might live, I'm almost broke, how ironical!! Seriously though, can anyone > offer any advise or reading material to help me out with this, certainly I > can't be the only one with this fear. > > Thanks very much, > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2000 Report Share Posted September 24, 2000 Greetings, Read all Of Dr. Hulda 's books and Dr. 's, all easily found on line, then I believe you will see you have a future, once you understand what cancer is and how you got it. Blessings, Health Sources Re: lung cancer > > Hi, this is from St. Pete. Bch. in Fl. I was diagnosed in Aug. of 98 > with stage 3b nsclc, and also was told to go home and take care of my > affairs, well it is now almost Oct. of 2000 and I'm still here and have been > in remission since March of 99 and feeling great. > > I also went through chemo, and radiation and am now on alot of antioxidants, > eat fairly well for a single man, take flaxoil and cottage cheese every day > and try to have a positive attitude at all times. If you would like any > info. on what I take please let me know, and if there is anyone out there > that can suggest any thing that I should be doing to keep this demon from > coming back, please don't hesitate to e-mail me personally or on this site. > > I am having one major problem, I'm finding it hard to decide how to live my > life. Do I live for today or live for the future? When I first got sick I of > course was depressed, angry , and started to spend all my money, now that I > might live, I'm almost broke, how ironical!! Seriously though, can anyone > offer any advise or reading material to help me out with this, certainly I > can't be the only one with this fear. > > Thanks very much, > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2000 Report Share Posted September 25, 2000 Dear - I would like to recommend that you read the books Cleanse and Purify Thyself by , and Fit For Life: A New Beginning, which is Harvey Diamond's third book in the series. If you are interested in removing the fear associated with cancer, try reading these books. If you are interested in keeping your body in the best shape to repel cancer, try incorporating the information in these books into your routine. I can go on and on, but will let the books speak for themselves. There are other books I can recommend. If you are interested, please e-mail me privately or on the list. Best regards, Kathy Ingham In a message dated 9/24/00 10:01:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SURVIVOR17@... writes: > Hi, this is from St. Pete. Bch. in Fl. I was diagnosed in Aug. of 98 > with stage 3b nsclc, and also was told to go home and take care of my > affairs, well it is now almost Oct. of 2000 and I'm still here and have been > > in remission since March of 99 and feeling great. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 moonbeam.....please tell us where the injections of saline and ethol alcohol are being done..I would appreciate your reposting that info. Thanks Judy Hoffman Lung Cancer > > Dear Moonbeam, > > I just found this list last night and need some help and I need > > it quick. I am 47, was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer in January of > > this year. > > > Hi Kathleen, > please don't take anything I say as medical advice, rather as > information to discuss with your health professional. > My neighbor was diagnosed in January this year with stage 4 lung cancer. Today she has > no detectable cancer. She followed protocol 1. But she also took some chemo and radio. > > >After 4 treatments of Oxygen Tx and Insulin Tx I got two blood > > clots in my neck where the double luminum catheter went in. I got all my > > Laetrile, vitamin C, chelation Tx but failed the rest. They (Oasis) sent > > me home to do Radiation Tx while continuing on Laetril and supplements. > > Please explain exactly the type of oxygen therapy that you had. Was it oxygen therapy or > ozone therapy or peroxide therapy? > There are two types of oxygen therapy that could be useful. Firstly, the dilute peroxide > bath described in protocol 1. One would be looking at, at least 90 baths, a lot more > oxygen therapy than the 4 oxygen treatments you paid for. Secondly, breathing dilute > medical ozone gas. This would require a bottle of medical grade oxygen and a suitable > ozone generator. This is a bit more complicated, yet in a medical journal I posted to the > list, the doctors recommended it for lung cancer. > > Chelation therapy is quite expensive, but good for removing cancer causing substances > from the body. However oral chelation therapy using Spirulina is cheap and I would > recommend that instead. In terms of value for money there are much better therapies than > IV chelation therapy. > When you had Laetrile therapy, was that IV or tablets? Are you still taking the tablets? > Vitamin C is only really useful when taken with a macrophage activator, such as Beta > glucan. You do not mention that you took Beta glucan, so I assume you did not. > Beta glucan is fundamental to immunotherapy against cancer. > > > I then went to Washington Univ. to > > visit a thoracic surgeon who said I too much bulky disease and sent me > > home to do chemo. City of Hope in Los Angeles did another ct chest on > > Sept. 7th showing new nodules in both lungs, more extensive mediastinal > > adenopathy. > > Clearly the therapy you have been taking is not working well. I would follow protocol 1 > for 4 months and then have another Cat Scan. Previously I posted an article showing good > success in clinical trials with throat tumors using injection of saline or ethanol. 86 > percent complete remission was found by the authors injecting ethanol into throat tumors. > > > The whole while I've been anemic and had required 1 unit then 3 > > unit of blood to bring me back to feeling good. This was fine until > > between July 23rd and Aug 23rd when my H & H took a dump and the cancer >took off growing > again. I've has 2 liters and 2 more liters of blood in the > > last week. > > Previously I posted an article showing that phycocyanin, the blue coloring in Spirulina, > stimulated the bone marrow to increase production of red and white blood cells. > Spirulina also contains immune stimulating polysaccharides. Protocol 1 recommends three > heaped teaspoons of Spirulina powder, electrically mixed > in juice, two or three times per day. This may address the problem of anemia. Clinical > trials of women in Japan showed Spirulina eliminated anemia. > > > I'm on 2 liters of Oxygen at night while sleeping, > > Oxygen gas is not use in oxygen therapy, except for hyperbaric oxygen therapy. Active > forms of oxygen such as ozone or peroxide are used instead. > > > have changed my > > diet trying to maintain an pH enviornment, list essiac tea, coffee enemias > > daily. > > I personally and not convinced of the efficacy of essiac essiac tea. Coffee enema enemas > are used to the toxic by and eliminate waste products produced by immunotherapy. They are > a single element derived from this and therapy. Dr. Gerson says unless the enemas are > used with his raw vegetable and fruit juice diet they won't work. > > >I'm... totally inept with > > nutritional/alternative therapy terminology and where to get the stuff, > > how to apply it and on and on. I live in Oregon, small town with no > > reputable nutritionist within over 300 miles that I know of. Can you help > > me? Can you teach me how to fight this cancer with oxygen and whatever > > else you know of? > > Anything you could suggest will be heaven sent. Thank you, Michele > > I would order 20 liters of 35 percent food grade hydrogen peroxide from a chemical > Company and 2 or liters of 99 percent grade DMSO. I would also purchase a half kg or 1 kg > of yeast derived Beta glucan, two kg of Vitamin C powder, either sodium ascorbate, or one > of the new more expensive varieties of vitamin C. > I would purchase the slow speed juicer and start on the vegetable juice and & therapy. > > I would be taking the dilute peroxide bath twice a day, reheating it in the afternoon > with an immersion heater. > I would be purchasing the shark liver oil, L-Selenomethionine, vitamin E, Laetrile > tablets and as many of the ingredients for protocol 1 as possible. If I could afford it I > would get a transfer factor suitable for lung cancer. > > Best wishes, > > moonbeam > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2001 Report Share Posted September 26, 2001 Dear Moonbeam, Can you please explain clearly what Protocol 1 is. My father has recently bee diagnosed as having lung cancer stage 4. Please give me as much information as possible, I await your reply, Thanks so much, >From: moonbeam@... >Reply-cures for cancer >cures for cancer >Subject: Lung Cancer >Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:40:29 +1000 > > > 25 Sep 2001 04:42:58 -0000 >moonbeam@... >Subject: Lung Cancer > > Dear Moonbeam, > > I just found this list last night and need some help and I need > > it quick. I am 47, was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer in January of > > this year. > > > Hi Kathleen, > please don't take anything I say as medical advice, rather as >information to discuss with your health professional. > My neighbor was diagnosed in January this year with stage 4 lung cancer. Today she has >no detectable cancer. She followed protocol 1. But she also took some chemo and radio. > > >After 4 treatments of Oxygen Tx and Insulin Tx I got two blood > > clots in my neck where the double luminum catheter went in. I got all my > > Laetrile, vitamin C, chelation Tx but failed the rest. They (Oasis) sent > > me home to do Radiation Tx while continuing on Laetril and supplements. > >Please explain exactly the type of oxygen therapy that you had. Was it oxygen therapy or >ozone therapy or peroxide therapy? >There are two types of oxygen therapy that could be useful. Firstly, the dilute peroxide >bath described in protocol 1. One would be looking at, at least 90 baths, a lot more >oxygen therapy than the 4 oxygen treatments you paid for. Secondly, breathing dilute >medical ozone gas. This would require a bottle of medical grade oxygen and a suitable >ozone generator. This is a bit more complicated, yet in a medical journal I posted to the >list, the doctors recommended it for lung cancer. > >Chelation therapy is quite expensive, but good for removing cancer causing substances >from the body. However oral chelation therapy using Spirulina is cheap and I would >recommend that instead. In terms of value for money there are much better therapies than >IV chelation therapy. >When you had Laetrile therapy, was that IV or tablets? Are you still taking the tablets? >Vitamin C is only really useful when taken with a macrophage activator, such as Beta >glucan. You do not mention that you took Beta glucan, so I assume you did not. > Beta glucan is fundamental to immunotherapy against cancer. > > > I then went to Washington Univ. to > > visit a thoracic surgeon who said I too much bulky disease and sent me > > home to do chemo. City of Hope in Los Angeles did another ct chest on > > Sept. 7th showing new nodules in both lungs, more extensive mediastinal > > adenopathy. > >Clearly the therapy you have been taking is not working well. I would follow protocol 1 >for 4 months and then have another Cat Scan. Previously I posted an article showing good >success in clinical trials with throat tumors using injection of saline or ethanol. 86 >percent complete remission was found by the authors injecting ethanol into throat tumors. > > > The whole while I've been anemic and had required 1 unit then 3 > > unit of blood to bring me back to feeling good. This was fine until > > between July 23rd and Aug 23rd when my H & H took a dump and the cancer >took off growing >again. I've has 2 liters and 2 more liters of blood in the > > last week. > >Previously I posted an article showing that phycocyanin, the blue coloring in Spirulina, >stimulated the bone marrow to increase production of red and white blood cells. >Spirulina also contains immune stimulating polysaccharides. Protocol 1 recommends three >heaped teaspoons of Spirulina powder, electrically mixed >in juice, two or three times per day. This may address the problem of anemia. Clinical >trials of women in Japan showed Spirulina eliminated anemia. > > > I'm on 2 liters of Oxygen at night while sleeping, > >Oxygen gas is not use in oxygen therapy, except for hyperbaric oxygen therapy. Active >forms of oxygen such as ozone or peroxide are used instead. > > > have changed my > > diet trying to maintain an pH enviornment, list essiac tea, coffee enemias > > daily. > >I personally and not convinced of the efficacy of essiac essiac tea. Coffee enema enemas >are used to the toxic by and eliminate waste products produced by immunotherapy. They are >a single element derived from this and therapy. Dr. Gerson says unless the enemas are >used with his raw vegetable and fruit juice diet they won't work. > > >I'm... totally inept with > > nutritional/alternative therapy terminology and where to get the stuff, > > how to apply it and on and on. I live in Oregon, small town with no > > reputable nutritionist within over 300 miles that I know of. Can you help > > me? Can you teach me how to fight this cancer with oxygen and whatever > > else you know of? > > Anything you could suggest will be heaven sent. Thank you, Michele > >I would order 20 liters of 35 percent food grade hydrogen peroxide from a chemical >Company and 2 or liters of 99 percent grade DMSO. I would also purchase a half kg or 1 kg >of yeast derived Beta glucan, two kg of Vitamin C powder, either sodium ascorbate, or one >of the new more expensive varieties of vitamin C. >I would purchase the slow speed juicer and start on the vegetable juice and & therapy. > >I would be taking the dilute peroxide bath twice a day, reheating it in the afternoon >with an immersion heater. >I would be purchasing the shark liver oil, L-Selenomethionine, vitamin E, Laetrile >tablets and as many of the ingredients for protocol 1 as possible. If I could afford it I >would get a transfer factor suitable for lung cancer. > >Best wishes, > > moonbeam Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2001 Report Share Posted September 27, 2001 I'll be the space case here. I've read a book and am close to seeing a video on of God in Brazil. I talked to people who have been to see him. He doesn't charge for his cures. He treats high numbers-sometimes thousands-each day. I have prostate cancer with bone mets and am seriously thinking of going there myself. Like Cayce, he's not a doctor. Visible and invisible painless-bloodless surgeries are channeled up in plain view by dead doctors each day. If you have a little cash and not much to lose, you might consider this. I hope to be seeing that video this week. Pat in Mexico Lung Cancer > > Dear Moonbeam, > > I just found this list last night and need some help and I need > > it quick. I am 47, was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer in January of > > this year. > > > Hi Kathleen, > please don't take anything I say as medical advice, rather as > information to discuss with your health professional. > My neighbor was diagnosed in January this year with stage 4 lung cancer. Today she has > no detectable cancer. She followed protocol 1. But she also took some chemo and radio. > > >After 4 treatments of Oxygen Tx and Insulin Tx I got two blood > > clots in my neck where the double luminum catheter went in. I got all my > > Laetrile, vitamin C, chelation Tx but failed the rest. They (Oasis) sent > > me home to do Radiation Tx while continuing on Laetril and supplements. > > Please explain exactly the type of oxygen therapy that you had. Was it oxygen therapy or > ozone therapy or peroxide therapy? > There are two types of oxygen therapy that could be useful. Firstly, the dilute peroxide > bath described in protocol 1. One would be looking at, at least 90 baths, a lot more > oxygen therapy than the 4 oxygen treatments you paid for. Secondly, breathing dilute > medical ozone gas. This would require a bottle of medical grade oxygen and a suitable > ozone generator. This is a bit more complicated, yet in a medical journal I posted to the > list, the doctors recommended it for lung cancer. > > Chelation therapy is quite expensive, but good for removing cancer causing substances > from the body. However oral chelation therapy using Spirulina is cheap and I would > recommend that instead. In terms of value for money there are much better therapies than > IV chelation therapy. > When you had Laetrile therapy, was that IV or tablets? Are you still taking the tablets? > Vitamin C is only really useful when taken with a macrophage activator, such as Beta > glucan. You do not mention that you took Beta glucan, so I assume you did not. > Beta glucan is fundamental to immunotherapy against cancer. > > > I then went to Washington Univ. to > > visit a thoracic surgeon who said I too much bulky disease and sent me > > home to do chemo. City of Hope in Los Angeles did another ct chest on > > Sept. 7th showing new nodules in both lungs, more extensive mediastinal > > adenopathy. > > Clearly the therapy you have been taking is not working well. I would follow protocol 1 > for 4 months and then have another Cat Scan. Previously I posted an article showing good > success in clinical trials with throat tumors using injection of saline or ethanol. 86 > percent complete remission was found by the authors injecting ethanol into throat tumors. > > > The whole while I've been anemic and had required 1 unit then 3 > > unit of blood to bring me back to feeling good. This was fine until > > between July 23rd and Aug 23rd when my H & H took a dump and the cancer >took off growing > again. I've has 2 liters and 2 more liters of blood in the > > last week. > > Previously I posted an article showing that phycocyanin, the blue coloring in Spirulina, > stimulated the bone marrow to increase production of red and white blood cells. > Spirulina also contains immune stimulating polysaccharides. Protocol 1 recommends three > heaped teaspoons of Spirulina powder, electrically mixed > in juice, two or three times per day. This may address the problem of anemia. Clinical > trials of women in Japan showed Spirulina eliminated anemia. > > > I'm on 2 liters of Oxygen at night while sleeping, > > Oxygen gas is not use in oxygen therapy, except for hyperbaric oxygen therapy. Active > forms of oxygen such as ozone or peroxide are used instead. > > > have changed my > > diet trying to maintain an pH enviornment, list essiac tea, coffee enemias > > daily. > > I personally and not convinced of the efficacy of essiac essiac tea. Coffee enema enemas > are used to the toxic by and eliminate waste products produced by immunotherapy. They are > a single element derived from this and therapy. Dr. Gerson says unless the enemas are > used with his raw vegetable and fruit juice diet they won't work. > > >I'm... totally inept with > > nutritional/alternative therapy terminology and where to get the stuff, > > how to apply it and on and on. I live in Oregon, small town with no > > reputable nutritionist within over 300 miles that I know of. Can you help > > me? Can you teach me how to fight this cancer with oxygen and whatever > > else you know of? > > Anything you could suggest will be heaven sent. Thank you, Michele > > I would order 20 liters of 35 percent food grade hydrogen peroxide from a chemical > Company and 2 or liters of 99 percent grade DMSO. I would also purchase a half kg or 1 kg > of yeast derived Beta glucan, two kg of Vitamin C powder, either sodium ascorbate, or one > of the new more expensive varieties of vitamin C. > I would purchase the slow speed juicer and start on the vegetable juice and & therapy. > > I would be taking the dilute peroxide bath twice a day, reheating it in the afternoon > with an immersion heater. > I would be purchasing the shark liver oil, L-Selenomethionine, vitamin E, Laetrile > tablets and as many of the ingredients for protocol 1 as possible. If I could afford it I > would get a transfer factor suitable for lung cancer. > > Best wishes, > > moonbeam > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. 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