Re: Re: hashmimotos disease+Janet

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I know there is some connection between Thyroid problems and hot flashes at a certain age. When I was 46 my TSH was over the limit and I was put on Thyroxin and told that I would have to take it forever. When I became Menopausal at 52 and the Hot Flashes started, I decided I wasn't going to put up with them and got myself some Progesterone cream. Now mind you, I'm now on Thyroxin for 6 years at this point. Within 2 months of starting on the P cream, my TSH went back down to normal and my hot flashes ALSO ceased.

That was 16 years ago and I'm STILL using the Progesterone Cream, STILL have a normal TSH and STILL do not have any Hot Flashes.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Janet ASent: June 25, 2011 2:44 PMiodine Subject: RE: Re: hashmimotos disease

Interesting question. I'll have to go back and look at those numbers. I'm typically on the low side for T4 and T3 as I have a personal stubborness around taking the least amount of hormone I can get away with. Also, the more thyroid hormone I take the more hot flashes I have at night so I attempt to stay somewhere in the range of not quite the best energy but not up all night in a sweat ! I was consistently dosing the same amount during the time I testing the gluten free effects until I switched from ERFA to a T4/T3 combo in January. At that point it had been 9 months and my antibodies had already decreased significantly.Janet> > I have Hashi's. What did your TSH/fT4/fT3 look like on the 3 testsyou had.> > Any relationship there??

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Wow Bonnie, if only progesterone would do that for me !!! My experience with progesterone is that it inceases my hot flashes which is totally opposite what most experience. I use it for a few weeks and then back off when the flashes increase.Janet iodine From: bonnieview@...Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:06:02 -0400Subject: RE: Re: hashmimotos disease+Janet

I know there is some connection between Thyroid problems and hot flashes at a certain age. When I was 46 my TSH was over the limit and I was put on Thyroxin and told that I would have to take it forever. When I became Menopausal at 52 and the Hot Flashes started, I decided I wasn't going to put up with them and got myself some Progesterone cream. Now mind you, I'm now on Thyroxin for 6 years at this point. Within 2 months of starting on the P cream, my TSH went back down to normal and my hot flashes ALSO ceased.

That was 16 years ago and I'm STILL using the Progesterone Cream, STILL have a normal TSH and STILL do not have any Hot Flashes.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Janet ASent: June 25, 2011 2:44 PMiodine Subject: RE: Re: hashmimotos disease

Interesting question. I'll have to go back and look at those numbers. I'm typically on the low side for T4 and T3 as I have a personal stubborness around taking the least amount of hormone I can get away with. Also, the more thyroid hormone I take the more hot flashes I have at night so I attempt to stay somewhere in the range of not quite the best energy but not up all night in a sweat ! I was consistently dosing the same amount during the time I testing the gluten free effects until I switched from ERFA to a T4/T3 combo in January. At that point it had been 9 months and my antibodies had already decreased significantly.Janet> > I have Hashi's. What did your TSH/fT4/fT3 look like on the 3 testsyou had.> > Any relationship there??

[Guest guest]

Janet,You might try DIM or calcium-d-glucarate to decrease your hot flashes. Researchers that reported to the thermography group connected that to reducing estrogen or xenoestrogen which should reduce hot flashes. My mother had hot flashes for 30-40 years and at 83 is finally done with them and finally will wear a coat in cold weather. Pam

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Janet A <seaofqi@...> wrote:

 

Wow Bonnie, if only progesterone would do that for me !!!  My experience with progesterone is that it inceases my hot flashes which is totally opposite what most experience.   I use it for a few weeks and then back off when the flashes increase.

Janet iodine From: bonnieview@...Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:06:02 -0400

Subject: RE: Re: hashmimotos disease+Janet

 

I know there is some connection between Thyroid problems and hot flashes at a certain age.  When I was 46 my TSH was over the limit and I was put on Thyroxin and told that I would have to take it forever.  When I became Menopausal at 52 and the Hot Flashes started, I decided I wasn't going to put up with them and got myself some Progesterone cream.  Now mind you, I'm now on Thyroxin for 6 years at this point.  Within 2 months of starting on the P cream, my TSH went back down to normal and my hot flashes ALSO ceased.

 

That was 16 years ago and I'm STILL using the Progesterone Cream, STILL have a normal TSH and STILL do not have any Hot Flashes.

 

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Janet ASent: June 25, 2011 2:44 PMiodine Subject: RE: Re: hashmimotos disease

 

Interesting question.  I'll have to go back and look at those numbers.  I'm typically on the low side for T4 and T3 as I have a personal stubborness around taking the least amount of hormone I can get away with.  Also, the more thyroid hormone I take the more hot flashes I have at night so I attempt to stay somewhere in the range of not quite the best energy but not up all night in a sweat ! I was consistently dosing the same amount during the time I testing the gluten free effects until I switched from ERFA to a T4/T3 combo in January.  At that point it had been 9 months and my antibodies had already decreased significantly.Janet> > I have Hashi's. What did your TSH/fT4/fT3 look like on the 3 testsyou had.> > Any relationship there??

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info Pam. I'm currently taking estrogen (estradiol) and without that they are really bad so, unless I'm interpretting this incorrectly, my problem would not be from excess estrogen?Janet iodine From: 2007pams@...Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:12:57 -0700Subject: Re: Re: hashmimotos disease+Janet

Janet,You might try DIM or calcium-d-glucarate to decrease your hot flashes. Researchers that reported to the thermography group connected that to reducing estrogen or xenoestrogen which should reduce hot flashes. My mother had hot flashes for 30-40 years and at 83 is finally done with them and finally will wear a coat in cold weather. Pam

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Janet A <seaofqi@...> wrote:

Wow Bonnie, if only progesterone would do that for me !!! My experience with progesterone is that it inceases my hot flashes which is totally opposite what most experience. I use it for a few weeks and then back off when the flashes increase.

Janet iodine From: bonnieview@...Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:06:02 -0400

Subject: RE: Re: hashmimotos disease+Janet

I know there is some connection between Thyroid problems and hot flashes at a certain age. When I was 46 my TSH was over the limit and I was put on Thyroxin and told that I would have to take it forever. When I became Menopausal at 52 and the Hot Flashes started, I decided I wasn't going to put up with them and got myself some Progesterone cream. Now mind you, I'm now on Thyroxin for 6 years at this point. Within 2 months of starting on the P cream, my TSH went back down to normal and my hot flashes ALSO ceased.

That was 16 years ago and I'm STILL using the Progesterone Cream, STILL have a normal TSH and STILL do not have any Hot Flashes.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Janet ASent: June 25, 2011 2:44 PMiodine Subject: RE: Re: hashmimotos disease

Interesting question. I'll have to go back and look at those numbers. I'm typically on the low side for T4 and T3 as I have a personal stubborness around taking the least amount of hormone I can get away with. Also, the more thyroid hormone I take the more hot flashes I have at night so I attempt to stay somewhere in the range of not quite the best energy but not up all night in a sweat ! I was consistently dosing the same amount during the time I testing the gluten free effects until I switched from ERFA to a T4/T3 combo in January. At that point it had been 9 months and my antibodies had already decreased significantly.Janet> > I have Hashi's. What did your TSH/fT4/fT3 look like on the 3 testsyou had.> > Any relationship there??

[Guest guest]

You may have a problem with xenoestrogens which are herbicides and pesticides in food and water or heated plastics like water bottles in the car or in transit can produce 50 times as much xenoestrogens from PLASTIC exposed to heat.

 You could be exposed to heated plastics used in cooking like the spatula or the To GO cups for coffee or take out food or plastics in surface of cookware past or present.The body could have stored these. There are pictures of women with breast cancer from herbicide exposures that my thermographer has documented but xenoestrogens can do the similar damage. She is working to get these herbicides out of use across the country as they accumulate in our fat cells and lead to future cancers for both women and men and children.. 

One step for your health, may be to get thermography done to see what estrogen is doing in your body. Here is some examples of what that looks like.http://www.breastthermography.com/case_studies.htm

I had too much estrogen which meant too much blood supply to support future cancers. I now have a half dozen lumps from slipping rib syndrome constant adjustments but since doing the DIM, calcium-d-glurate, broccoli sprouts, they are cold so not as likely to develop BC in the future.. 

Hopefully this is helpful. Pam

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Janet A <seaofqi@...> wrote:

 

Thanks for the info Pam.  I'm currently taking estrogen (estradiol) and without that they are really bad so, unless I'm interpretting this incorrectly, my problem would not be from excess estrogen?Janet 

iodine From: 2007pams@...Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:12:57 -0700

Subject: Re: Re: hashmimotos disease+Janet

 

Janet,You might try DIM or calcium-d-glucarate to decrease your hot flashes. Researchers that reported to the thermography group connected that to reducing estrogen or xenoestrogen which should reduce hot flashes. My mother had hot flashes for 30-40 years and at 83 is finally done with them and finally will wear a coat in cold weather. Pam

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Janet A <seaofqi@...> wrote:

 

Wow Bonnie, if only progesterone would do that for me !!!  My experience with progesterone is that it inceases my hot flashes which is totally opposite what most experience.   I use it for a few weeks and then back off when the flashes increase.

Janet iodine From: bonnieview@...Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:06:02 -0400

Subject: RE: Re: hashmimotos disease+Janet

 

I know there is some connection between Thyroid problems and hot flashes at a certain age.  When I was 46 my TSH was over the limit and I was put on Thyroxin and told that I would have to take it forever.  When I became Menopausal at 52 and the Hot Flashes started, I decided I wasn't going to put up with them and got myself some Progesterone cream.  Now mind you, I'm now on Thyroxin for 6 years at this point.  Within 2 months of starting on the P cream, my TSH went back down to normal and my hot flashes ALSO ceased.

 

That was 16 years ago and I'm STILL using the Progesterone Cream, STILL have a normal TSH and STILL do not have any Hot Flashes.

 

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Janet ASent: June 25, 2011 2:44 PMiodine Subject: RE: Re: hashmimotos disease

 

Interesting question.  I'll have to go back and look at those numbers.  I'm typically on the low side for T4 and T3 as I have a personal stubborness around taking the least amount of hormone I can get away with.  Also, the more thyroid hormone I take the more hot flashes I have at night so I attempt to stay somewhere in the range of not quite the best energy but not up all night in a sweat ! I was consistently dosing the same amount during the time I testing the gluten free effects until I switched from ERFA to a T4/T3 combo in January.  At that point it had been 9 months and my antibodies had already decreased significantly.Janet> > I have Hashi's. What did your TSH/fT4/fT3 look like on the 3 testsyou had.> > Any relationship there??

[Guest guest]

Thanks for this information Pam. I am aware of the xenoestrogen problem and have been for quite a while. I avoid the plastics when I can and no one knows how much is stored away. Years ago I used to buy a case of bottled water from BJs and because I had no room for it in my tiny apartment I used to leave it in my trunk.....hmmmmm......

I get thermography instead of a mammogram as I'm very leery of the mammo crush.

My hot flashes just became horrible again when I upped my thyroid hormone after a doctor visit. My Frees were very low so we doubled my T4 and T3 combo. I'm going to post a query as to the possibility of iodine having a contributing factor.

Janet

iodine From: 2007pams@...Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:03:11 -0700Subject: Re: Re: hashmimotos disease+Janet

You may have a problem with xenoestrogens which are herbicides and pesticides in food and water or heated plastics like water bottles in the car or in transit can produce 50 times as much xenoestrogens from PLASTIC exposed to heat.

You could be exposed to heated plastics used in cooking like the spatula or the To GO cups for coffee or take out food or plastics in surface of cookware past or present.

The body could have stored these. There are pictures of women with breast cancer from herbicide exposures that my thermographer has documented but xenoestrogens can do the similar damage. She is working to get these herbicides out of use across the country as they accumulate in our fat cells and lead to future cancers for both women and men and children..

One step for your health, may be to get thermography done to see what estrogen is doing in your body. Here is some examples of what that looks like.http://www.breastthermography.com/case_studies.htm

I had too much estrogen which meant too much blood supply to support future cancers. I now have a half dozen lumps from slipping rib syndrome constant adjustments but since doing the DIM, calcium-d-glurate, broccoli sprouts, they are cold so not as likely to develop BC in the future..

Hopefully this is helpful. Pam

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Janet A <seaofqi@...> wrote:

Thanks for the info Pam. I'm currently taking estrogen (estradiol) and without that they are really bad so, unless I'm interpretting this incorrectly, my problem would not be from excess estrogen?Janet

iodine From: 2007pams@...Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:12:57 -0700Subject: Re: Re: hashmimotos disease+Janet

Janet,

You might try DIM or calcium-d-glucarate to decrease your hot flashes. Researchers that reported to the thermography group connected that to reducing estrogen or xenoestrogen which should reduce hot flashes. My mother had hot flashes for 30-40 years and at 83 is finally done with them and finally will wear a coat in cold weather. Pam

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Janet A <seaofqi@...> wrote:

Wow Bonnie, if only progesterone would do that for me !!! My experience with progesterone is that it inceases my hot flashes which is totally opposite what most experience. I use it for a few weeks and then back off when the flashes increase.Janet

iodine From: bonnieview@...Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:06:02 -0400Subject: RE: Re: hashmimotos disease+Janet

I know there is some connection between Thyroid problems and hot flashes at a certain age. When I was 46 my TSH was over the limit and I was put on Thyroxin and told that I would have to take it forever. When I became Menopausal at 52 and the Hot Flashes started, I decided I wasn't going to put up with them and got myself some Progesterone cream. Now mind you, I'm now on Thyroxin for 6 years at this point. Within 2 months of starting on the P cream, my TSH went back down to normal and my hot flashes ALSO ceased.

That was 16 years ago and I'm STILL using the Progesterone Cream, STILL have a normal TSH and STILL do not have any Hot Flashes.

Bonnie

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Janet ASent: June 25, 2011 2:44 PMiodine Subject: RE: Re: hashmimotos disease

Interesting question. I'll have to go back and look at those numbers. I'm typically on the low side for T4 and T3 as I have a personal stubborness around taking the least amount of hormone I can get away with. Also, the more thyroid hormone I take the more hot flashes I have at night so I attempt to stay somewhere in the range of not quite the best energy but not up all night in a sweat ! I was consistently dosing the same amount during the time I testing the gluten free effects until I switched from ERFA to a T4/T3 combo in January. At that point it had been 9 months and my antibodies had already decreased significantly.Janet> > I have Hashi's. What did your TSH/fT4/fT3 look like on the 3 testsyou had.> > Any relationship there??