Re: Adrenals - orthostatic intolerance - can anyone help

[Guest guest]

Hi Chris:

Florinef is the drug for low Aldosterone....you're symptoms seem like low

aldosterone as well as adrenal fatigue.

Celtic Sea salt first thing in the morning will help these symptoms and I would

also suggest an adrenal desiccated which I take religiously:

http://www.pureformulas.com/adrenal-desiccated-90-tablets-by-standard-process.ht\

ml

This product helps a great deal with raising metabolism too.

Cheers,

JOT

I have a problem in the mornings whereby i wake up feeling ok, but as soon as i

try to get up and moving, after a few minutes, i get very stressed, pulse shoots

up, and feel horrible. sometimes feel wheezy.

[Guest guest]

Thank you JOt

do you know how to interpret aldosterone urine tests?

Aldosterone 13.5 µg/24h 5.0-20

That was done while on 17.5mg hc. im now on more hc than that.

problem is though these mornings are killing me. takes me all day to recover,

then it starts the next day, and again. it ruins the whole day for me.

chris

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> Hi Chris:

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> Florinef is the drug for low Aldosterone....you're symptoms seem like low

aldosterone as well as adrenal fatigue.

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[Guest guest]

sorry i meant to post this too:

Sodium 137 mEq/L 135-145

someone on another board (an addison's board) said that was low

have a whole raft of tests if it helps

thank you, i apprecaite your help, i can't realy think too clearly right now.

C

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> Hi Chris:

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> Florinef is the drug for low Aldosterone....you're symptoms seem like low

aldosterone as well as adrenal fatigue.

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[Guest guest]

oh and there's this one

urinary 24hr excretion rate

sodium seems high ? and serum sodium is lowish?

Sodium + 291.8 mEq/24h 100-220

Potassium 106.0 mEq/24h 35-128

just took some sea salt.

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> sorry i meant to post this too:

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> Sodium 137 mEq/L 135-145

[Guest guest]

Check this link, chris...it's quite good.

http://www.cigna.com/healthinfo/hw6534.html

It depends on what time of day your tests were taken too.

Cheers,

JOT

> Sodium 137 mEq/L 135-145

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> someone on another board (an addison's board) said that was low

[Guest guest]

Your sodium looks a bit high, but potassium should be at the top of the range

and also magnesium.

Do you have magnesium results? When magnesium and potassium are not balanced or

not both at the top of the reference range, you can feel bad. Magnesium is so

very important.

How are your vitamin D3 levels? This also needs to be balanced with the calcium

and magnesium and potassium.

Cheers,

JOT

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> > sorry i meant to post this too:

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> > Sodium 137 mEq/L 135-145

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[Guest guest]

that is the amount excreted over 24 hours. the sodium result is 30% over the

top end of normal? ie i'm losing a lot of sodium?

for that test, this is all i have.

Iodine 156 µg/L 100-199

Iodine 254 µg/24h 170-280

Urinary volume (24h) 1630 mL/24h 600-2500

Creatinine 192 mg/dL

Creatinine + 3.13 g/24h 1.0-2.2

Sodium + 291.8 mEq/24h 100-220

Potassium 106.0 mEq/24h 35-128

Calcium 26.7 mg/dL

Calcium + 435.2 mg/24H 140-280

Magnesium 12.7 mg/dL

Magnesium + 207.0 mg/24h 60-120

Phosphorus + 1.4 g/24h 0.4-0.8

taking d3, 10,000 IU a day for 2 monnths

had this symptom of morning stress for last 3 years or more

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> Your sodium looks a bit high, but potassium should be at the top of the range

and also magnesium.

> Do you have magnesium results? When magnesium and potassium are not balanced

or not both at the top of the reference range, you can feel bad. Magnesium is so

very important.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

All the 24hr urinary results look higher than the ranges quoted, except for

potassium, ie general salt loss except for potassium; is that, by any chance,

heading into the hyperkalemic range ?

I'd guess your blood iodine is being maintained by thyroid hormone treatment ?

Bob

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> that is the amount excreted over 24 hours. the sodium result is 30% over the

top end of normal? ie i'm losing a lot of sodium?

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> for that test, this is all i have.

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> Iodine 156 µg/L 100-199

> Iodine 254 µg/24h 170-280

> Urinary volume (24h) 1630 mL/24h 600-2500

> Creatinine 192 mg/dL

> Creatinine + 3.13 g/24h 1.0-2.2

> Sodium + 291.8 mEq/24h 100-220

> Potassium 106.0 mEq/24h 35-128

> Calcium 26.7 mg/dL

> Calcium + 435.2 mg/24H 140-280

> Magnesium 12.7 mg/dL

> Magnesium + 207.0 mg/24h 60-120

> Phosphorus + 1.4 g/24h 0.4-0.8

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> taking d3, 10,000 IU a day for 2 monnths

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> had this symptom of morning stress for last 3 years or more

[Guest guest]

>ie general salt loss except for potassium; is that, by any chance, heading into

the hyperkalemic range ?

what does that mean though, Bob?

sometimes i take iodine (iodoral) - and did previously for a while. don't take

it very oten now though.

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> Hi

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> All the 24hr urinary results look higher than the ranges quoted, except for

potassium, ie general salt loss except for potassium; is that, by any chance,

heading into the hyperkalemic range ?

>

> I'd guess your blood iodine is being maintained by thyroid hormone treatment ?

[Guest guest]

You (and I) may be on to something, jot. after the 40th time i've been told

about sea salt, i took more yesterday and it seemed to help.

today after reading links on this subject i got up really slowly, in stages, and

for the first time in years, i didn't have this stress/panic reaction. it is

good not to have it.

i will look into what else i can do

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> Celtic Sea salt first thing in the morning will help these symptoms and I

would also suggest an adrenal desiccated which I take religiously:

[Guest guest]

Ahh.....you do make me laugh Chris...

Sometimes the 41st time is the charm :0)

I have a very interesting story about adrenal fatigue and celtic sea salt. When

I was young and growing up my mother was very abusive. My adrenals were always

shot, but I didn't know enough about it at that time to put two and two

together. I did, however, always feel better and stronger once I spent the day

at the beach swimming in the ocean (sea salt)....it was the fall, winter and

spring months which were hardest on me. From decades of Mystical and Divine

studies, I had finally learned the connection and also learned that the abuse

stays in your cells until you're strong enough to release it. So in retrospect,

I knew that my adrenal fatigue was directly connected to my abuse. Most people

never pick up on this.

When I started reading great psychology by Alice and others, they never

used the word adrenal fatigue, but they always used words which described

adrenal fatigue symptoms. It was 25 years ago when I first discovered natural

sea salt in Hawaii. My road to healing improved immediately once I started to

consume it everyday. My body reacted stronger as well because my cells

remembered the salty ocean which made me stronger and more mentally alert.

Salt is responsible for so much in our systems. The trace minerals are something

we cannot live without, yet so many people are doing just that these days. They

wonder why they have pain and seizures and their electrolyte system is

compromised.....so many diseases are helped with just a touch of salt....the

good salt....

Here's a blog I wrote on salt with some good links to reference:

http://blimey.dreamwidth.org/4301.html

Cheers,

JOT

> You (and I) may be on to something, jot. after the 40th time i've been told

about sea salt, i took more yesterday and it seemed to help.

[Guest guest]

Hi Chris:

I just wrote you this long post on the story of my adrenal fatigue and when I

clicked on send it didn't come through.... so here we go again:

When I was young I was constantly abused by my mother. My adrenals were shot

from the time I was born and for most of my life. I noticed that I always felt

stronger and less intimidated during the summer months...it didn't dawn on me

till years later that I spent most days at the beach swimming in the ocean. (sea

salt) When I was about 25 I moved to Hawaii and discovered natural sea salt and

starting using it on everything...my body responded to it well because cells

have memory. They remembered how much it helped me back when I was swimming. It

was a big breakthrough in my own healing.

I'd delved into Divine and Mystical studies along with my psychology studies and

I learned quite a bit about abuse and cells and how releasing this damage would

improve my health and my adrenals. No one ever mentioned the term adrenal

fatigue but they were describing the symptoms of adrenal fatigue in every

sentence. It finally clicked for me. It made complete sense, I was just given

another gift of wisdom along the path. It doesn't matter the type of abuse,

whether it be physical, mental, verbal, spiritual....it's all emotionally

damaging and that's what adrenals react too.....and what the cells hang on to

until you can let it go.

The trace minerals in sea salt are profound all by themselves. They are so

desperately needed the the body and the mind. People who have started to take

trace mineral drops, report amazing relief from tumors, seizures, panic attacks,

etc. There's a long list of stories about miraculous healings.

Salt, iodine, water....we can't live without it, it is our main support...

Here's a blog I did on salt a while back...with some good links you may find

interesting:

http://blimey.dreamwidth.org/4301.html

Cheers,

JOT

> You (and I) may be on to something, jot. after the 40th time i've been told

about sea salt, i took more yesterday and it seemed to help.

[Guest guest]

I think a couple of my posts have gone astray too. According to the adrenal group, is being a bit erratic again. No energy now so will repost another time. Alison>> Hi Chris:> > I just wrote you this long post on the story of my adrenal fatigue and when I clicked on send it didn't come through.... so here we go again:> >

[Guest guest]

Hi there Jot

I thought you might like that reference :-) it's kind of true, too

Well, i wonder if I needed salt all along - could it be that taking more salt

has caused a thyroid dump?

Ok here's why: yesterday i was doing stuff around my home, which i stopped an

hour or two before bed, and found my bedtime temp was 37.4c. it's never that

high normally, maybe 36.7c, say and drops quite rapidly.

Today i feel quite bad - very slow thoughts and low mood all day, and now that's

changed into crippling anxiety and nausea. only one way to find out if it's

thyroid of course. (awaiting as we speak)

Thank you for sharing your story about celtic sea salt. I am sorry you were

treated so badly - that doesn't begin to cover it does it but i don't want to

not even acknowledge what you shared and go wittering on about myself :-(

> When I started reading great psychology by Alice and others, they never

used the word adrenal fatigue, but they always used words which described

adrenal fatigue symptoms.

Did you ever read 'the joy of burnout ' by gina glouberman? That sounds like

adrenal fatigue to me, too. I haven't read any Alice

I have read your blog post on this, thanks

Best wishes

Chris

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> Ahh.....you do make me laugh Chris...

> Sometimes the 41st time is the charm :0)

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> I have a very interesting story about adrenal fatigue and celtic sea salt.

[Guest guest]

well, as sensitive as i am, i feel my anxiety leaving me and calming down and

seem to be feeling the benefit of taking the naturethroid earlier

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> Today i feel quite bad - very slow thoughts and low mood all day, and now

that's changed into crippling anxiety and nausea. only one way to find out if

it's thyroid of course. (awaiting as we speak)

[Guest guest]

I'll put this on my list.

Thanks,

Cheers, JOT

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> Did you ever read 'the joy of burnout ' by gina glouberman? That sounds like

adrenal fatigue to me, too. I haven't read any Alice

[Guest guest]

i thought it was good. i read it at the end of 2003 and i sure felt burntout -

couldn't do anything, some days i couldn't get off the settee - walking a few

hundred yards exhausted me. though a (former) 'friend' of mine said 'you aren't

burntout , you've not done anything'! no studying 7 days a week, sometimes

being studying all night - and still making no progress, in a subject that i was

completely unsuited to study, was nothing, and then to not even finish my degree

and have 30k of debts, was nothing. hmm. there you are!

Its in hindsight that I think it could be talking about adrenal fatigue, but i

think as more of a consequence of lifestyle rather than surving traumatic

experiences.

You can read a few pages on the preview here:

http://www.amazon.com/Joy-Burnout-Burning-Unlocks-Brighter/dp/0955545609/ref=sr_\

1_1?ie=UTF8 & qid=1314042438 & sr=8-1#reader_0955545609

i thought it was good, anyway.

Chris

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> I'll put this on my list.

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> Thanks,

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> Cheers, JOT

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