Re: Nursing Mom Starting Iodine

[Guest guest]

I think that would fall under the 12.5 mg recommendation that was made before for pregnant women who had not been on the iodine protocol before. It is enough to give a person some iodine to work with, but not enough to trigger massive detox. If the mom doesn't have any iodine on board, the nursing will deplete her, but if she detoxes too fast, the breast milk could be contaminated. AnneOn Jul 6, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Janet A wrote:

I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and what dose would be recommended.

She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around month 4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.

Any guidance is appreciated !

Janet

[Guest guest]

I would concur.

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At 11:09 PM 7/6/2011, you wrote:

>I think that would fall under the 12.5 mg recommendation that was made

>before for pregnant women who had not been on the iodine protocol before.

>It is enough to give a person some iodine to work with, but not enough to

>trigger massive detox. If the mom doesn't have any iodine on board, the

>nursing will deplete her, but if she detoxes too fast, the breast milk

>could be contaminated.

>

>Anne

>

>

>On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Janet A wrote:

>

>>

>>

>>I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid

>>that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and what

>>dose would be recommended.

>>

>>She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a

>>good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around month

>>4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.

>>

>>Any guidance is appreciated !

>>Janet

>

>

>

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were

their salvation? ~~~~

--Gilles Deleuze

[Guest guest]

Thanks Anne and . Exactly what I was thinking....whether she could take it and not have detox that would create milk problems.

Janet

iodine From: vbaker@...Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 23:22:03 -0500Subject: Re: Nursing Mom Starting Iodine

I would concur.--At 11:09 PM 7/6/2011, you wrote:>I think that would fall under the 12.5 mg recommendation that was made >before for pregnant women who had not been on the iodine protocol before. >It is enough to give a person some iodine to work with, but not enough to >trigger massive detox. If the mom doesn't have any iodine on board, the >nursing will deplete her, but if she detoxes too fast, the breast milk >could be contaminated.>>Anne>>>On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Janet A wrote:>>>>>>>I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid >>that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and what >>dose would be recommended.>>>>She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a >>good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around month >>4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.>>>>Any guidance is appreciated !>>Janet>>>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were their salvation? ~~~~--Gilles Deleuze

[Guest guest]

Janet,I slowly worked my way up to 50 mg within the first 6 mo of nursing for a total 13 months. My daughter, now 15 months, has more hair and is WAY healthier than my other two kids. Not to go against the recommendations of this group, I just truly believed we needed the nutrients more than detox would affect the baby and I.....Also, I had and still have some severe adrenal issues and am trying to heal from that, so detox management is a serious concern...although I don't feel like I was being risky. I just took a lot of Epsom salt baths! And, we are trying to conceive again and I plan on staying at 50 mg. Eventually I want to go higher but I feel that is a safe dose for our circumstances. Hope that helps!TammyOn Jul 7, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Anne Seals <anneseals@...> wrote:

I think that would fall under the 12.5 mg recommendation that was made before for pregnant women who had not been on the iodine protocol before. It is enough to give a person some iodine to work with, but not enough to trigger massive detox. If the mom doesn't have any iodine on board, the nursing will deplete her, but if she detoxes too fast, the breast milk could be contaminated. AnneOn Jul 6, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Janet A wrote:

I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and what dose would be recommended.

She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around month 4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.

Any guidance is appreciated !

Janet

[Guest guest]

Tammy,Thank you for sharing your experience. So, you did not experience any detoxing that you were aware of at 50 mg?Janet iodine From: tammylmcclellan@...Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 19:10:49 -0400Subject: Re: Nursing Mom Starting Iodine

Janet,I slowly worked my way up to 50 mg within the first 6 mo of nursing for a total 13 months. My daughter, now 15 months, has more hair and is WAY healthier than my other two kids. Not to go against the recommendations of this group, I just truly believed we needed the nutrients more than detox would affect the baby and I.....Also, I had and still have some severe adrenal issues and am trying to heal from that, so detox management is a serious concern...although I don't feel like I was being risky. I just took a lot of Epsom salt baths! And, we are trying to conceive again and I plan on staying at 50 mg. Eventually I want to go higher but I feel that is a safe dose for our circumstances. Hope that helps!TammyOn Jul 7, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Anne Seals <anneseals@...> wrote:

I think that would fall under the 12.5 mg recommendation that was made before for pregnant women who had not been on the iodine protocol before. It is enough to give a person some iodine to work with, but not enough to trigger massive detox. If the mom doesn't have any iodine on board, the nursing will deplete her, but if she detoxes too fast, the breast milk could be contaminated. AnneOn Jul 6, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Janet A wrote:

I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and what dose would be recommended.

She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around month 4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.

Any guidance is appreciated !

Janet

[Guest guest]

Everybody gets nervous about recommending anything for pregnant women & nursing mothers, because infants & fetuses are so vulnerable. I would say that the iodine docs are trying to err on the side of extreme caution. I would tend to agree with you that anything that is healthy for the mom is generally healthy for the baby, but there are occasional exceptions.I took a lot of vitamin C during pregnancy, & was blissfully unaware that it makes you metabolize anesthesia much more quickly. So the anesthesia wore off in the middle of my C-section. That was a pretty big oops! Not something I would recommend, by any means... And yet, in every other way, my pregnancy was healthy, so I didn't regret taking a lot of C -- well, except for the obvious time when I wanted to say very bad words & attack the anesthesiologist with a large sword... But I mean, other than that it worked out OK.If you feel well taking iodine, & don't have obvious detox symptoms, you can probably get away with it. But the docs would be afraid to recommend it. If you are going to exceed their recommendation, you need to do so mindfully, & with awareness of detox symptoms.AnneOn Jul 7, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Tammy McClellan wrote:

Janet,I slowly worked my way up to 50 mg within the first 6 mo of nursing for a total 13 months. My daughter, now 15 months, has more hair and is WAY healthier than my other two kids. Not to go against the recommendations of this group, I just truly believed we needed the nutrients more than detox would affect the baby and I.....Also, I had and still have some severe adrenal issues and am trying to heal from that, so detox management is a serious concern...although I don't feel like I was being risky. I just took a lot of Epsom salt baths! And, we are trying to conceive again and I plan on staying at 50 mg. Eventually I want to go higher but I feel that is a safe dose for our circumstances. Hope that helps!TammyOn Jul 7, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Anne Seals <anneseals@...> wrote:

I think that would fall under the 12.5 mg recommendation that was made before for pregnant women who had not been on the iodine protocol before. It is enough to give a person some iodine to work with, but not enough to trigger massive detox. If the mom doesn't have any iodine on board, the nursing will deplete her, but if she detoxes too fast, the breast milk could be contaminated. AnneOn Jul 6, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Janet A wrote:

I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and what dose would be recommended.

She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around month 4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.

Any guidance is appreciated !

Janet

[Guest guest]

Tammy-- All well considered thoughts on your part. btw, the limitation is

ONLY for women who start iodine after they are already pregnant. There is

NO such limitation on record for women who are already on the iodine

protocol like yourself. So you do not need to worry at all about

that. Your next child will have an even greater health advantage.

--

At 08:01 PM 7/7/2011, you wrote:

>Everybody gets nervous about recommending anything for pregnant women &

>nursing mothers, because infants & fetuses are so vulnerable. I would say

>that the iodine docs are trying to err on the side of extreme caution. I

>would tend to agree with you that anything that is healthy for the mom is

>generally healthy for the baby, but there are occasional exceptions.

>

>I took a lot of vitamin C during pregnancy, & was blissfully unaware that

>it makes you metabolize anesthesia much more quickly. So the anesthesia

>wore off in the middle of my C-section. That was a pretty big oops! Not

>something I would recommend, by any means... And yet, in every other way,

>my pregnancy was healthy, so I didn't regret taking a lot of C -- well,

>except for the obvious time when I wanted to say very bad words & attack

>the anesthesiologist with a large sword... But I mean, other than that it

>worked out OK.

>

>If you feel well taking iodine, & don't have obvious detox symptoms, you

>can probably get away with it. But the docs would be afraid to recommend

>it. If you are going to exceed their recommendation, you need to do so

>mindfully, & with awareness of detox symptoms.

>

>Anne

>

>

>On Jul 7, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Tammy McClellan wrote:

>

>>

>>

>>Janet,

>>

>>I slowly worked my way up to 50 mg within the first 6 mo of nursing for a

>>total 13 months. My daughter, now 15 months, has more hair and is WAY

>>healthier than my other two kids. Not to go against the recommendations

>>of this group, I just truly believed we needed the nutrients more than

>>detox would affect the baby and I.....

>>

>>Also, I had and still have some severe adrenal issues and am trying to

>>heal from that, so detox management is a serious concern...although I

>>don't feel like I was being risky. I just took a lot of Epsom salt

>>baths! And, we are trying to conceive again and I plan on staying at 50

>>mg. Eventually I want to go higher but I feel that is a safe dose for our

>>circumstances.

>>

>>Hope that helps!

>>

>>Tammy

>>

>>On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Anne Seals

>><<mailto:anneseals@...>anneseals@...> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>>

>>>I think that would fall under the 12.5 mg recommendation that was made

>>>before for pregnant women who had not been on the iodine protocol

>>>before. It is enough to give a person some iodine to work with, but not

>>>enough to trigger massive detox. If the mom doesn't have any iodine on

>>>board, the nursing will deplete her, but if she detoxes too fast, the

>>>breast milk could be contaminated.

>>>

>>>Anne

>>>

>>>

>>>On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Janet A wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid

>>>>that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and

>>>>what dose would be recommended.

>>>>

>>>>She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a

>>>>good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around

>>>>month 4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.

>>>>

>>>>Any guidance is appreciated !

>>>>Janet

>>>

>

>

>

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were

their salvation? ~~~~

--Gilles Deleuze

[Guest guest]

Hi,

So glad you are feeling healthy. Another thing to help conception is Low Dose

Naltrexone. Have you heard of that? There are quite a few if

you do a search. Dr. Boyle in Ireland/Scotland - across the pond, has been

helping women conceive and stay healthy for quite some time.

Best wishes!

grace~

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid that

would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and what dose would

be recommended.

> >>

> >> She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a good

diet. With her two previous children she had problems around month 4. Her tsh

is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.

> >>

> >> Any guidance is appreciated !

> >> Janet

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I didn't know that about C. Thanks for the info! I will keep it in mind. I

would have been hitting people and saying bad words! LOL

Glowing,

grace~

> >>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid

that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and what dose

would be recommended.

> >>>

> >>> She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a

good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around month 4. Her

tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.

> >>>

> >>> Any guidance is appreciated !

> >>> Janet

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Another really bad thing for anesthesia is naltrexone and I have seen some people mention LDN. My poor daughter was in this for her self injurious behaviors when she had knee surgery and her surgeon didn't realize she should be off since it is an opiate inhibitor. It took forever to get her pain under control. Talk about guilt feelings- no one should go through that. HigginsSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 7, 2011, at 7:18 PM, "M C" <tobdncng@...> wrote:

I didn't know that about C. Thanks for the info! I will keep it in mind. I would have been hitting people and saying bad words! LOL

Glowing,

grace~

> >>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and what dose would be recommended.

> >>>

> >>> She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around month 4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.

> >>>

> >>> Any guidance is appreciated !

> >>> Janet

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Right! Well, I started iodine while nursing the last baby, maybe the milk tasted strong, but she never complained!I am looking forward to seeing if there will be any morning sickness the next time. I have a theory that bad morning sickness is a sign of serious iodine deficiency. And Janet I did have detox, and I hate to tell you how bad it was....I guess bc I don't want you to judge me:(....and I did go against the group recommendations which was 12.5. But I really don't feel reckless, I feel like a warrior really. Not to be proud or anything, it was just a fight to get the iodine on board at all. God has preserved me. It is still an uphill climb and I am still susceptible to stress, I am not healed completely yet! But like I said before, I just felt very strongly it was very important to do. For me and her. Now I give her 12.5 in her cereal and the other two take 25 mg. 5 & almost 4 yo. Homemade Lugol's that is!Best wishes for your decision making,TammyOn Jul 7, 2011, at 10:03 PM, B <vbaker@...> wrote:

Tammy-- All well considered thoughts on your part. btw, the limitation is

ONLY for women who start iodine after they are already pregnant. There is

NO such limitation on record for women who are already on the iodine

protocol like yourself. So you do not need to worry at all about

that. Your next child will have an even greater health advantage.

--

At 08:01 PM 7/7/2011, you wrote:

>Everybody gets nervous about recommending anything for pregnant women &

>nursing mothers, because infants & fetuses are so vulnerable. I would say

>that the iodine docs are trying to err on the side of extreme caution. I

>would tend to agree with you that anything that is healthy for the mom is

>generally healthy for the baby, but there are occasional exceptions.

>

>I took a lot of vitamin C during pregnancy, & was blissfully unaware that

>it makes you metabolize anesthesia much more quickly. So the anesthesia

>wore off in the middle of my C-section. That was a pretty big oops! Not

>something I would recommend, by any means... And yet, in every other way,

>my pregnancy was healthy, so I didn't regret taking a lot of C -- well,

>except for the obvious time when I wanted to say very bad words & attack

>the anesthesiologist with a large sword... But I mean, other than that it

>worked out OK.

>

>If you feel well taking iodine, & don't have obvious detox symptoms, you

>can probably get away with it. But the docs would be afraid to recommend

>it. If you are going to exceed their recommendation, you need to do so

>mindfully, & with awareness of detox symptoms.

>

>Anne

>

>

>On Jul 7, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Tammy McClellan wrote:

>

>>

>>

>>Janet,

>>

>>I slowly worked my way up to 50 mg within the first 6 mo of nursing for a

>>total 13 months. My daughter, now 15 months, has more hair and is WAY

>>healthier than my other two kids. Not to go against the recommendations

>>of this group, I just truly believed we needed the nutrients more than

>>detox would affect the baby and I.....

>>

>>Also, I had and still have some severe adrenal issues and am trying to

>>heal from that, so detox management is a serious concern...although I

>>don't feel like I was being risky. I just took a lot of Epsom salt

>>baths! And, we are trying to conceive again and I plan on staying at 50

>>mg. Eventually I want to go higher but I feel that is a safe dose for our

>>circumstances.

>>

>>Hope that helps!

>>

>>Tammy

>>

>>On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Anne Seals

>><<mailto:anneseals@...>anneseals@...> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>>

>>>I think that would fall under the 12.5 mg recommendation that was made

>>>before for pregnant women who had not been on the iodine protocol

>>>before. It is enough to give a person some iodine to work with, but not

>>>enough to trigger massive detox. If the mom doesn't have any iodine on

>>>board, the nursing will deplete her, but if she detoxes too fast, the

>>>breast milk could be contaminated.

>>>

>>>Anne

>>>

>>>

>>>On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Janet A wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid

>>>>that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and

>>>>what dose would be recommended.

>>>>

>>>>She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a

>>>>good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around

>>>>month 4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.

>>>>

>>>>Any guidance is appreciated !

>>>>Janet

>>>

>

>

>

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were

their salvation? ~~~~

--Gilles Deleuze

[Guest guest]

It would be nice if somebody were actually to TEST breast milk some time, to see if the bromides go into it. The mother's body protects fetuses & nursing infants from some substances, & not from others. It would be nice to know which was which!AnneOn Jul 7, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Tammy McClellan wrote:

Right! Well, I started iodine while nursing the last baby, maybe the milk tasted strong, but she never complained!I am looking forward to seeing if there will be any morning sickness the next time. I have a theory that bad morning sickness is a sign of serious iodine deficiency. And Janet I did have detox, and I hate to tell you how bad it was....I guess bc I don't want you to judge me:(....and I did go against the group recommendations which was 12.5. But I really don't feel reckless, I feel like a warrior really. Not to be proud or anything, it was just a fight to get the iodine on board at all. God has preserved me. It is still an uphill climb and I am still susceptible to stress, I am not healed completely yet! But like I said before, I just felt very strongly it was very important to do. For me and her. Now I give her 12.5 in her cereal and the other two take 25 mg. 5 & almost 4 yo. Homemade Lugol's that is!Best wishes for your decision making,TammyOn Jul 7, 2011, at 10:03 PM, B <vbaker@...> wrote:

Tammy-- All well considered thoughts on your part. btw, the limitation is

ONLY for women who start iodine after they are already pregnant. There is

NO such limitation on record for women who are already on the iodine

protocol like yourself. So you do not need to worry at all about

that. Your next child will have an even greater health advantage.

--

At 08:01 PM 7/7/2011, you wrote:

>Everybody gets nervous about recommending anything for pregnant women &

>nursing mothers, because infants & fetuses are so vulnerable. I would say

>that the iodine docs are trying to err on the side of extreme caution. I

>would tend to agree with you that anything that is healthy for the mom is

>generally healthy for the baby, but there are occasional exceptions.

>

>I took a lot of vitamin C during pregnancy, & was blissfully unaware that

>it makes you metabolize anesthesia much more quickly. So the anesthesia

>wore off in the middle of my C-section. That was a pretty big oops! Not

>something I would recommend, by any means... And yet, in every other way,

>my pregnancy was healthy, so I didn't regret taking a lot of C -- well,

>except for the obvious time when I wanted to say very bad words & attack

>the anesthesiologist with a large sword... But I mean, other than that it

>worked out OK.

>

>If you feel well taking iodine, & don't have obvious detox symptoms, you

>can probably get away with it. But the docs would be afraid to recommend

>it. If you are going to exceed their recommendation, you need to do so

>mindfully, & with awareness of detox symptoms.

>

>Anne

>

>

>On Jul 7, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Tammy McClellan wrote:

>

>>

>>

>>Janet,

>>

>>I slowly worked my way up to 50 mg within the first 6 mo of nursing for a

>>total 13 months. My daughter, now 15 months, has more hair and is WAY

>>healthier than my other two kids. Not to go against the recommendations

>>of this group, I just truly believed we needed the nutrients more than

>>detox would affect the baby and I.....

>>

>>Also, I had and still have some severe adrenal issues and am trying to

>>heal from that, so detox management is a serious concern...although I

>>don't feel like I was being risky. I just took a lot of Epsom salt

>>baths! And, we are trying to conceive again and I plan on staying at 50

>>mg. Eventually I want to go higher but I feel that is a safe dose for our

>>circumstances.

>>

>>Hope that helps!

>>

>>Tammy

>>

>>On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Anne Seals

>><<mailto:anneseals@...>anneseals@...> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>>

>>>I think that would fall under the 12.5 mg recommendation that was made

>>>before for pregnant women who had not been on the iodine protocol

>>>before. It is enough to give a person some iodine to work with, but not

>>>enough to trigger massive detox. If the mom doesn't have any iodine on

>>>board, the nursing will deplete her, but if she detoxes too fast, the

>>>breast milk could be contaminated.

>>>

>>>Anne

>>>

>>>

>>>On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Janet A wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid

>>>>that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and

>>>>what dose would be recommended.

>>>>

>>>>She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a

>>>>good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around

>>>>month 4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.

>>>>

>>>>Any guidance is appreciated !

>>>>Janet

>>>

>

>

>

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were

their salvation? ~~~~

--Gilles Deleuze

[Guest guest]

Tammy,Thanks for your candid reply. I'd certainly not judge you especially since I go against the grain and recommendations all the time, sometimes to my benefit and other times not ,,,oh well, everything is a learning. So when you had the detoxing you were nursing the baby, correct? Janet iodine From: tammylmcclellan@...Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 00:38:42 -0400Subject: Re: Nursing Mom Starting Iodine

Right! Well, I started iodine while nursing the last baby, maybe the milk tasted strong, but she never complained!I am looking forward to seeing if there will be any morning sickness the next time. I have a theory that bad morning sickness is a sign of serious iodine deficiency. And Janet I did have detox, and I hate to tell you how bad it was....I guess bc I don't want you to judge me:(....and I did go against the group recommendations which was 12.5. But I really don't feel reckless, I feel like a warrior really. Not to be proud or anything, it was just a fight to get the iodine on board at all. God has preserved me. It is still an uphill climb and I am still susceptible to stress, I am not healed completely yet! But like I said before, I just felt very strongly it was very important to do. For me and her. Now I give her 12.5 in her cereal and the other two take 25 mg. 5 & almost 4 yo. Homemade Lugol's that is!Best wishes for your decision making,TammyOn Jul 7, 2011, at 10:03 PM, B <vbaker@...> wrote:

Tammy-- All well considered thoughts on your part. btw, the limitation is

ONLY for women who start iodine after they are already pregnant. There is

NO such limitation on record for women who are already on the iodine

protocol like yourself. So you do not need to worry at all about

that. Your next child will have an even greater health advantage.

--

At 08:01 PM 7/7/2011, you wrote:

>Everybody gets nervous about recommending anything for pregnant women &

>nursing mothers, because infants & fetuses are so vulnerable. I would say

>that the iodine docs are trying to err on the side of extreme caution. I

>would tend to agree with you that anything that is healthy for the mom is

>generally healthy for the baby, but there are occasional exceptions.

>

>I took a lot of vitamin C during pregnancy, & was blissfully unaware that

>it makes you metabolize anesthesia much more quickly. So the anesthesia

>wore off in the middle of my C-section. That was a pretty big oops! Not

>something I would recommend, by any means... And yet, in every other way,

>my pregnancy was healthy, so I didn't regret taking a lot of C -- well,

>except for the obvious time when I wanted to say very bad words & attack

>the anesthesiologist with a large sword... But I mean, other than that it

>worked out OK.

>

>If you feel well taking iodine, & don't have obvious detox symptoms, you

>can probably get away with it. But the docs would be afraid to recommend

>it. If you are going to exceed their recommendation, you need to do so

>mindfully, & with awareness of detox symptoms.

>

>Anne

>

>

>On Jul 7, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Tammy McClellan wrote:

>

>>

>>

>>Janet,

>>

>>I slowly worked my way up to 50 mg within the first 6 mo of nursing for a

>>total 13 months. My daughter, now 15 months, has more hair and is WAY

>>healthier than my other two kids. Not to go against the recommendations

>>of this group, I just truly believed we needed the nutrients more than

>>detox would affect the baby and I.....

>>

>>Also, I had and still have some severe adrenal issues and am trying to

>>heal from that, so detox management is a serious concern...although I

>>don't feel like I was being risky. I just took a lot of Epsom salt

>>baths! And, we are trying to conceive again and I plan on staying at 50

>>mg. Eventually I want to go higher but I feel that is a safe dose for our

>>circumstances.

>>

>>Hope that helps!

>>

>>Tammy

>>

>>On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Anne Seals

>><<mailto:anneseals@...>anneseals@...> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>>

>>>I think that would fall under the 12.5 mg recommendation that was made

>>>before for pregnant women who had not been on the iodine protocol

>>>before. It is enough to give a person some iodine to work with, but not

>>>enough to trigger massive detox. If the mom doesn't have any iodine on

>>>board, the nursing will deplete her, but if she detoxes too fast, the

>>>breast milk could be contaminated.

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>>>Anne

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>>>On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:59 PM, Janet A wrote:

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>>>>I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid

>>>>that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and

>>>>what dose would be recommended.

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>>>>She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a

>>>>good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around

>>>>month 4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.

>>>>

>>>>Any guidance is appreciated !

>>>>Janet

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~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were

their salvation? ~~~~

--Gilles Deleuze

[Guest guest]

Wow these anesthesia cautions are good to know. You'd think doctors would inform their patients pre surgery about this but clearly they don't know about it.Janet iodine From: Luff2sail@...Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:37:16 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Nursing Mom Starting Iodine

Another really bad thing for anesthesia is naltrexone and I have seen some people mention LDN. My poor daughter was in this for her self injurious behaviors when she had knee surgery and her surgeon didn't realize she should be off since it is an opiate inhibitor. It took forever to get her pain under control. Talk about guilt feelings- no one should go through that. HigginsSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 7, 2011, at 7:18 PM, "M C" <tobdncng@...> wrote:

I didn't know that about C. Thanks for the info! I will keep it in mind. I would have been hitting people and saying bad words! LOL

Glowing,

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> >>>

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> >>>

> >>> Any guidance is appreciated !

> >>> Janet

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Docs aren't really taught much about vitamins. Vitamin C helps you metabolize anesthesia quickly because it helps with detox, & your body sees the drug as a toxin. (In fact many drugs are toxic & very hard on your liver.) If medical schools taught docs about vitamin C, they would have to admit that it is better for many ailments than the drugs they are teaching the docs to prescribe. Wouldn't want to confuse the little darlings about their mission to keep the pharmaceutical companies going!As for LDN, that is not in common use, & many people don't tell their surgeons they are on it. That one is a case where I think the patient must take responsibility. It is smart for all of us to know about drugs we are taking, because docs don't always know everything you would hope they would know. If you tell your surgeon you are on it, he should know about the interaction with pain meds -- but if he doesn't, & YOU know about the interaction, you can ask. The less common a medication you are on, the more important it is for you to be informed. It shouldn't be your responsibility, but a lot of mistakes get made.My husband was in the hospital a few years ago for a bowel obstruction. His 50-year-old appendectomy scar obstructed his bowel, would you believe? It is very painful, so they gave him morphine. A nurse came in & gave him his morphine, & he promptly fell asleep (because it is strong stuff.) Ten or 15 minutes later, a second nurse came in, prepared to give him morphine -- & he was so sleepy, it probably wouldn't have occurred to him that it was too soon for more. That scared the stuffings out of me, so I stayed with him at the hospital almost continuously.He was not supposed to get any solid food, while they waited for his bowel to clear. I ran home for a shower & clean clothes, & came back to find him eating. The nurse's aid had screwed up & brought him the wrong tray -- which could have been pretty serious. He was happily doped up on pain meds, & he was hungry, so he didn't question the sudden appearance of "food." (In future, should he be hospitalized again, I will just hang around & stink till he's released.)In the best of all possible worlds, every health professional would know everything they needed to know to take care of you. In THIS world, buyer beware.AnneOn Jul 8, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Janet A wrote:

Wow these anesthesia cautions are good to know. You'd think doctors would inform their patients pre surgery about this but clearly they don't know about it.Janet iodine From: Luff2sail@...Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:37:16 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Nursing Mom Starting Iodine

Another really bad thing for anesthesia is naltrexone and I have seen some people mention LDN. My poor daughter was in this for her self injurious behaviors when she had knee surgery and her surgeon didn't realize she should be off since it is an opiate inhibitor. It took forever to get her pain under control. Talk about guilt feelings- no one should go through that. HigginsSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 7, 2011, at 7:18 PM, "M C" <tobdncng@...> wrote:

I didn't know that about C. Thanks for the info! I will keep it in mind. I would have been hitting people and saying bad words! LOL

Glowing,

grace~

> >>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and what dose would be recommended.

> >>>

> >>> She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around month 4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.

> >>>

> >>> Any guidance is appreciated !

> >>> Janet

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I think though we need not blame people because they don't know everything, that is why I shared. We thought the doctor would know if the low dose she was on would matter, but he didn't. It might be different for different people but I would err on the side of pain prevention. Also, this was a rare time when the anesthesiologist didn't call a couple of days ahead. Higgins Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 8, 2011, at 11:31 PM, Anne Seals <anneseals@...> wrote:

Docs aren't really taught much about vitamins. Vitamin C helps you metabolize anesthesia quickly because it helps with detox, & your body sees the drug as a toxin. (In fact many drugs are toxic & very hard on your liver.) If medical schools taught docs about vitamin C, they would have to admit that it is better for many ailments than the drugs they are teaching the docs to prescribe. Wouldn't want to confuse the little darlings about their mission to keep the pharmaceutical companies going!As for LDN, that is not in common use, & many people don't tell their surgeons they are on it. That one is a case where I think the patient must take responsibility. It is smart for all of us to know about drugs we are taking, because docs don't always know everything you would hope they would know. If you tell your surgeon you are on it, he should know about the interaction with pain meds -- but if he doesn't, & YOU know about the

int

eraction, you can ask. The less common a medication you are on, the more important it is for you to be informed. It shouldn't be your responsibility, but a lot of mistakes get made.My husband was in the hospital a few years ago for a bowel obstruction. His 50-year-old appendectomy scar obstructed his bowel, would you believe? It is very painful, so they gave him morphine. A nurse came in & gave him his morphine, & he promptly fell asleep (because it is strong stuff.) Ten or 15 minutes later, a second nurse came in, prepared to give him morphine -- & he was so sleepy, it probably wouldn't have occurred to him that it was too soon for more. That scared the stuffings out of me, so I stayed with him at the hospital almost continuously.He was not supposed to get any solid food, while they waited for his bowel to clear. I ran home for a shower & clean clothes, & came back to find him eating. The nurse's aid ha

d screwed up & brought him the wrong tray -- which could have been pretty serious. He was happily doped up on pain meds, & he was hungry, so he didn't question the sudden appearance of "food." (In future, should he be hospitalized again, I will just hang around & stink till he's released.)In the best of all possible worlds, every health professional would know everything they needed to know to take care of you. In THIS world, buyer beware.AnneOn Jul 8, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Janet A wrote:

Wow these anesthesia cautions are good to know. You'd think doctors would inform their patients pre surgery about this but clearly they don't know about it.Janet iodine From: Luff2sail@...Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:37:16 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Nursing Mom Starting Iodine

Another really bad thing for anesthesia is naltrexone and I have seen some people mention LDN. My poor daughter was in this for her self injurious behaviors when she had knee surgery and her surgeon didn't realize she should be off since it is an opiate inhibitor. It took forever to get her pain under control. Talk about guilt feelings- no one should go through that. HigginsSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 7, 2011, at 7:18 PM, "M C" <tobdncng@...> wrote:

I didn't know that about C. Thanks for the info! I will keep it in mind. I would have been hitting people and saying bad words! LOL

Glowing,

grace~

> >>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and what dose would be recommended.

> >>>

> >>> She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around month 4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.

> >>>

> >>> Any guidance is appreciated !

> >>> Janet

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

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Wow Anne, I hear lots of these hospital horror stories and it's happening more and more as the "system" becomes more complex and drug/procedure focused instead of patient care focused. I had a similar experience with my Dad. I spent a week trying to keep the hospital from killing him. Thank you for your presence on this list and thanks also to all the other very knowledgable posters. This is a very valuable list for me and I appreciate the dedication you all have to sharing information.Janet iodine From: anneseals@...Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 23:31:36 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Nursing Mom Starting Iodine

Docs aren't really taught much about vitamins. Vitamin C helps you metabolize anesthesia quickly because it helps with detox, & your body sees the drug as a toxin. (In fact many drugs are toxic & very hard on your liver.) If medical schools taught docs about vitamin C, they would have to admit that it is better for many ailments than the drugs they are teaching the docs to prescribe. Wouldn't want to confuse the little darlings about their mission to keep the pharmaceutical companies going!As for LDN, that is not in common use, & many people don't tell their surgeons they are on it. That one is a case where I think the patient must take responsibility. It is smart for all of us to know about drugs we are taking, because docs don't always know everything you would hope they would know. If you tell your surgeon you are on it, he should know about the interaction with pain meds -- but if he doesn't, & YOU know about the interaction, you can ask. The less common a medication you are on, the more important it is for you to be informed. It shouldn't be your responsibility, but a lot of mistakes get made.My husband was in the hospital a few years ago for a bowel obstruction. His 50-year-old appendectomy scar obstructed his bowel, would you believe? It is very painful, so they gave him morphine. A nurse came in & gave him his morphine, & he promptly fell asleep (because it is strong stuff.) Ten or 15 minutes later, a second nurse came in, prepared to give him morphine -- & he was so sleepy, it probably wouldn't have occurred to him that it was too soon for more. That scared the stuffings out of me, so I stayed with him at the hospital almost continuously.He was not supposed to get any solid food, while they waited for his bowel to clear. I ran home for a shower & clean clothes, & came back to find him eating. The nurse's aid had screwed up & brought him the wrong tray -- which could have been pretty serious. He was happily doped up on pain meds, & he was hungry, so he didn't question the sudden appearance of "food." (In future, should he be hospitalized again, I will just hang around & stink till he's released.)In the best of all possible worlds, every health professional would know everything they needed to know to take care of you. In THIS world, buyer beware.AnneOn Jul 8, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Janet A wrote:

Wow these anesthesia cautions are good to know. You'd think doctors would inform their patients pre surgery about this but clearly they don't know about it.Janet iodine From: Luff2sail@...Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 20:37:16 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Nursing Mom Starting Iodine

Another really bad thing for anesthesia is naltrexone and I have seen some people mention LDN. My poor daughter was in this for her self injurious behaviors when she had knee surgery and her surgeon didn't realize she should be off since it is an opiate inhibitor. It took forever to get her pain under control. Talk about guilt feelings- no one should go through that. HigginsSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 7, 2011, at 7:18 PM, "M C" <tobdncng@...> wrote:

I didn't know that about C. Thanks for the info! I will keep it in mind. I would have been hitting people and saying bad words! LOL

Glowing,

grace~

> >>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and what dose would be recommended.

> >>>

> >>> She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around month 4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.

> >>>

> >>> Any guidance is appreciated !

> >>> Janet

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

And not enough iodine will cause low milk supply or none. It's a vicious

circle.

Linn

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> >>that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and what

> >>dose would be recommended.

> >>

> >>She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a

> >>good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around month

> >>4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62.

> >>

> >>Any guidance is appreciated !

> >>Janet

> >

> >

> >

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> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

> ~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were

> their salvation? ~~~~

> --Gilles Deleuze

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet!I know I am way behind, was gone for several weeks. I would not only start on iodine, I would run to a doctor for thyroid meds! I struggled to nurse my first 3 children. If I didn’t eat and drink constantly – at least 6 big meals a day, and sleep 12-14 hours a day(try that with small children!), I would be empty of milk in the evening. I kept complaining to my doctor of being so tired, he said “you have a child”…..”you are pregnant and have a child”……”you are pregnant and have 2 children”…..etc. Finally I found an article in a magazine that listed possible thyroid symptoms and suggested that if you have 4, see your doctor. I had 8, demanded a test, the doctor, when he heard all 8, started me immediately on Armour, then used the test to see how much I needed. I was a new woman in two weeks, my 4th pregnancy (I was a couple of months pregnant when I started on Armour) was much smoother, and low and behold, I didn’t have one day of struggling with my milk supply in the 2 ½ years I nursed my 4th.   I didn’t know anything about iodine at that point, but it was another key to the puzzle of my health, and adding it years later has brought me to another better level of health. So, I would not only get started on iodine, but get help with thyroid medication. It was well worth it! Donna in IL From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Janet ASent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:00 PMiodine Subject: Nursing Mom Starting Iodine I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and what dose would be recommended. She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around month 4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62. Any guidance is appreciated !Janet

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Donna, Thank you so much for taking the time to reply to this. I'm going to forward your message to my friend. She's been struggling with the decision of whether to on the thyroid hormone. Her tsh went up to 3.1 from 2.7 when she was pregnant. Her doc did RX synthroid...yuck, but that could get her going for the time being. Her concern, and mine as well, is in starting the hormone and then having to continue taking it forever. That was why she wanted to explore supps, herbs and other means like iodine to see if it would help but sounds like, from your experience, this needs to be addressed at the thyroid hormone level. Thanks again !Janet iodine From: Donna@...Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 08:20:03 -0500Subject: RE: Nursing Mom Starting Iodine

Hi Janet!I know I am way behind, was gone for several weeks. I would not only start on iodine, I would run to a doctor for thyroid meds! I struggled to nurse my first 3 children. If I didn’t eat and drink constantly – at least 6 big meals a day, and sleep 12-14 hours a day(try that with small children!), I would be empty of milk in the evening. I kept complaining to my doctor of being so tired, he said “you have a child”…..”you are pregnant and have a child”……”you are pregnant and have 2 children”…..etc. Finally I found an article in a magazine that listed possible thyroid symptoms and suggested that if you have 4, see your doctor. I had 8, demanded a test, the doctor, when he heard all 8, started me immediately on Armour, then used the test to see how much I needed. I was a new woman in two weeks, my 4th pregnancy (I was a couple of months pregnant when I started on Armour) was much smoother, and low and behold, I didn’t have one day of struggling with my milk supply in the 2 ½ years I nursed my 4th. I didn’t know anything about iodine at that point, but it was another key to the puzzle of my health, and adding it years later has brought me to another better level of health. So, I would not only get started on iodine, but get help with thyroid medication. It was well worth it! Donna in IL From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Janet ASent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:00 PMiodine Subject: Nursing Mom Starting Iodine I am wondering if a nursing mom concerned about a sub clinical thyroid that would affect her milk production, could safely start iodine and what dose would be recommended. She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a good diet. With her two previous children she had problems around month 4. Her tsh is in the 2.5ish range and she shows TPO antibodies of 62. Any guidance is appreciated !Janet

[Guest guest]

Just for reference, her TSH went down, up is hypoT, down too low is hyperT. The

newer lab ranges are .3-3.0 for so called normal TSH. She'd need to know what

her Free T3 and T4 is also. If her other labs are ok, she might be able to get

away with just trying iodine to get everything back in shape.

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> Donna, Thank you so much for taking the time to reply to this. I'm going to

forward your message to my friend. She's been struggling with the decision of

whether to on the thyroid hormone. Her tsh went up to 3.1 from 2.7 when she was

pregnant. Her doc did RX synthroid...yuck, but that could get her going for

the time being. Her concern, and mine as well, is in starting the hormone and

then having to continue taking it forever. That was why she wanted to explore

supps, herbs and other means like iodine to see if it would help but sounds

like, from your experience, this needs to be addressed at the thyroid hormone

level. Thanks again !Janet

> iodine

> From: Donna@...

> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 08:20:03 -0500

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nurse my first 3 children. If I didn't eat and drink constantly – at least 6 big

meals a day, and sleep 12-14 hours a day(try that with small children!), I would

be empty of milk in the evening. I kept complaining to my doctor of being so

tired, he said " you have a child " ….. " you are pregnant and have a child " …… " you

are pregnant and have 2 children " …..etc. Finally I found an article in a

magazine that listed possible thyroid symptoms and suggested that if you have 4,

see your doctor. I had 8, demanded a test, the doctor, when he heard all 8,

started me immediately on Armour, then used the test to see how much I needed. I

was a new woman in two weeks, my 4th pregnancy (I was a couple of months

pregnant when I started on Armour) was much smoother, and low and behold, I

didn't have one day of struggling with my milk supply in the 2 ½ years I nursed

my 4th. I didn't know anything about iodine at that point, but it was another

key to the puzzle of my health, and adding it years later has brought me to

another better level of health. So, I would not only get started on iodine, but

get help with thyroid medication. It was well worth it! Donna in IL From:

iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Janet A

> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:00 PM

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> Subject: Nursing Mom Starting Iodine I am wondering if a nursing

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> She's very informed about and taking various herbs, supps and eating a good

diet. With her two previous children she had problems around month 4. Her tsh

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> Janet

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Thanks Linn. Her tsh went UP to 3.1. I'm a Hashi's girl myself so very familiar with all the hypo stuff. Her frees are on the low side as well so definitely having hypo issues. I thought she might be able to ramp up the milk production without hormone and that is what she'd prefer but after reading the other nursing mom's post I'm thinking she needs to get on thyroid replacement for her sake (3 kids!) and the baby's.Janet iodine From: mwm1glm@...Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 19:27:32 +0000Subject: Re: Nursing Mom Starting Iodine

Just for reference, her TSH went down, up is hypoT, down too low is hyperT. The newer lab ranges are .3-3.0 for so called normal TSH. She'd need to know what her Free T3 and T4 is also. If her other labs are ok, she might be able to get away with just trying iodine to get everything back in shape.

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