Re: Um, Guys: Tri-Quench is SSKI, It is NOTan iodine + KI solution. My Bad.

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I've already stated very clearly that SSKI (or Tri-Quench) is not

sufficient for the iodine protocol because we need both types of iodine,

both potassium iodide and elemental iodine. Lugol's has both, in the

correct ratio, and Iodoral is a tablet form of Lugol's.

This isn't controversial or new, this is basic information for the iodine

protocol and this list. We just had a very long, needless conversation

about a product that could have been shortened considerably if the fact

that it is SSKI had come out early on. So again, the only reason this

might appear to be in question is because of a lack of information about

the Tri-Quench, not because of a lack of information about what type of

iodine is required for full satisfaction of the body's needs, and therefore

what type of iodine is required for the iodine protocol. We already have

the information, and my first paragraph, above, states it.

I hope this clears this up.

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At 12:17 AM 6/29/2011, you wrote:

>At least I did say I wasn't familiar with it, before making a right fool

>of myself. But I did go to the Scientific Botanicals website, to check

>out what BaxRox said about their bottle, and based on what they say you

>can safely ignore most, if not all, of what I previously wrote. Here's

>the correct product info.

>

>It's a potassium iodide solution whose concentration is 1 g (note, not mg)

>per ml -- this qualifies it as " supersaturated " , hence the term

>SSKI. It's sold in a 30 ml bottle whose dropper, per the manufacturer,

>does generate 1200 drops per bottle (that's 40 per ml, and yes, that is a

>small drop for a bottle) and the product statement is that each drop

>yields 25 mg KI (comprising 19 mg Iodide and 6 mg potassium). KI itself

>is clear, not brown (it's the iodine in Lugol's that tints it) so I'm

>assuming that Tri-Quench is colorless. And we can all forget the

>discussion of iodine to KI ratios, because it's irrelevant to this product.

>

>: You probably need to talk with someone with biochemical or medical

>(or both) knowledge to get the full picture on the difference between an

>iodide solution and an iodine/iodide compound or solution (Iodoral and

>Lugol's are the latter) and what effect -- if any -- that difference may

>have on your personal circumstances. SSKI is a legitimate thyroid

>adjuvant, but I for one can't give any advice on comparing it to what I'm

>used to because I don't know anything helpful. Anybody? Bueller?

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Just because you have an appreciation for the details and for those out there

who may wonder about their product ~ Tri-Quench is not colorless ~ though I

suspect it is the saffron extract that tints the product. Other SSKI products

may very well be colorless.

And I suppose I should have clarified in my recent post where I said that I use

& /or have on hand both Lugol's & Iodoral and also SSKI... the SSKI that I have

is the Tri-Quench product.

>

> At least I did say I wasn't familiar with it, before making a right fool of

myself. But I did go to the Scientific Botanicals website, to check out what

BaxRox said about their bottle, and based on what they say you can safely ignore

most, if not all, of what I previously wrote. Here's the correct product info.

>

> It's a potassium iodide solution whose concentration is 1 g (note, not mg) per

ml -- this qualifies it as " supersaturated " , hence the term SSKI. It's sold in

a 30 ml bottle whose dropper, per the manufacturer, does generate 1200 drops per

bottle (that's 40 per ml, and yes, that is a small drop for a bottle) and the

product statement is that each drop yields 25 mg KI (comprising 19 mg Iodide and

6 mg potassium). KI itself is clear, not brown (it's the iodine in Lugol's that

tints it) so I'm assuming that Tri-Quench is colorless. And we can all forget

the discussion of iodine to KI ratios, because it's irrelevant to this product.

>

> : You probably need to talk with someone with biochemical or medical (or

both) knowledge to get the full picture on the difference between an iodide

solution and an iodine/iodide compound or solution (Iodoral and Lugol's are the

latter) and what effect -- if any -- that difference may have on your personal

circumstances. SSKI is a legitimate thyroid adjuvant, but I for one can't give

any advice on comparing it to what I'm used to because I don't know anything

helpful. Anybody? Bueller?

>

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I am sure it is the saffron extract ... I looked it up and it indicated a color similar to iodine.  Which I thought was interesting.JaxiOn Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:23 PM, baxrox <baxrox@...> wrote:

Just because you have an appreciation for the details and for those out there who may wonder about their product ~ Tri-Quench is not colorless ~ though I suspect it is the saffron extract that tints the product.  Other SSKI products may very well be colorless.

And I suppose I should have clarified in my recent post where I said that I use & /or have on hand both Lugol's & Iodoral and also SSKI...  the SSKI that I have is the Tri-Quench product.

>

> At least I did say I wasn't familiar with it, before making a right fool of myself.  But I did go to the Scientific Botanicals website, to check out what BaxRox said about their bottle, and based on what they say you can safely ignore most, if not all, of what I previously wrote.  Here's the correct product info.

>

> It's a potassium iodide solution whose concentration is 1 g (note, not mg) per ml -- this qualifies it as " supersaturated " , hence the term SSKI.  It's sold in a 30 ml bottle whose dropper, per the manufacturer, does generate 1200 drops per bottle (that's 40 per ml, and yes, that is a small drop for a bottle) and the product statement is that each drop yields 25 mg KI (comprising 19 mg Iodide and 6 mg potassium).  KI itself is clear, not brown (it's the iodine in Lugol's that tints it) so I'm assuming that Tri-Quench is colorless.  And we can all forget the discussion of iodine to KI ratios, because it's irrelevant to this product.

>

> :  You probably need to talk with someone with biochemical or medical (or both) knowledge to get the full picture on the difference between an iodide solution and an iodine/iodide compound or solution (Iodoral and Lugol's are the latter) and what effect -- if any -- that difference may have on your personal circumstances.  SSKI is a legitimate thyroid adjuvant, but I for one can't give any advice on comparing it to what I'm used to because I don't know anything helpful.  Anybody?  Bueller?

>

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Ok, so finally found someone who uses Tri-Quench. How do you use it, Baxrox? From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of baxroxSent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:23 PMiodine Subject: Re: Um, Guys: Tri-Quench is SSKI, It is NOTan iodine + KI solution. My Bad. Just because you have an appreciation for the details and for those out there who may wonder about their product ~ Tri-Quench is not colorless ~ though I suspect it is the saffron extract that tints the product. Other SSKI products may very well be colorless.And I suppose I should have clarified in my recent post where I said that I use & /or have on hand both Lugol's & Iodoral and also SSKI... the SSKI that I have is the Tri-Quench product.

[Guest guest]

Okay, now I have it all clear what the difference is. I remember when I first started taking Iodoral I researched it and read about why it was important to have both potassium iodide and iodine together and it made sense. It’s been a couple of years now and I don’t remember the reason for both but I do know that I’ve always liked Iodoral. It’s just that my doc has stated that his patients are having the same results with Tri-Quench as with Iodoral, so I wanted to check into it. He’s not as thorough in all the information he gives patients and he doesn’t tell them to take the companion nutrients so I’m betting he’s not getting the whole picture on Tri-Quench. My thanks to all who have contributed to this discussion; it’s helped me a lot in understanding the differences a little better. I think I’ll stick with Iodoral for now. From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Megaera3Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:18 PMiodine Subject: Um, Guys: Tri-Quench is SSKI, It is NOTan iodine + KI solution. My Bad. At least I did say I wasn't familiar with it, before making a right fool of myself. But I did go to the Scientific Botanicals website, to check out what BaxRox said about their bottle, and based on what they say you can safely ignore most, if not all, of what I previously wrote. Here's the correct product info.It's a potassium iodide solution whose concentration is 1 g (note, not mg) per ml -- this qualifies it as " supersaturated " , hence the term SSKI. It's sold in a 30 ml bottle whose dropper, per the manufacturer, does generate 1200 drops per bottle (that's 40 per ml, and yes, that is a small drop for a bottle) and the product statement is that each drop yields 25 mg KI (comprising 19 mg Iodide and 6 mg potassium). KI itself is clear, not brown (it's the iodine in Lugol's that tints it) so I'm assuming that Tri-Quench is colorless. And we can all forget the discussion of iodine to KI ratios, because it's irrelevant to this product.: You probably need to talk with someone with biochemical or medical (or both) knowledge to get the full picture on the difference between an iodide solution and an iodine/iodide compound or solution (Iodoral and Lugol's are the latter) and what effect -- if any -- that difference may have on your personal circumstances. SSKI is a legitimate thyroid adjuvant, but I for one can't give any advice on comparing it to what I'm used to because I don't know anything helpful. Anybody? Bueller?

[Guest guest]

Yes, , if your doc doesn't understand the difference, that's

unfortunate, but you should continue with the full range of iodine via

Iodoral or Lugol's.

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At 10:42 PM 6/29/2011, you wrote:

>Okay, now I have it all clear what the difference is. I remember when I

>first started taking Iodoral I researched it and read about why it was

>important to have both potassium iodide and iodine together and it made

>sense. It's been a couple of years now and I don't remember the reason for

>both but I do know that I've always liked Iodoral.

>It's just that my doc has stated that his patients are having the same

>results with Tri-Quench as with Iodoral, so I wanted to check into it.

>He's not as thorough in all the information he gives patients and he

>doesn't tell them to take the companion nutrients so I'm betting he's not

>getting the whole picture on Tri-Quench.

>

>My thanks to all who have contributed to this discussion; it's helped me a

>lot in understanding the differences a little better. I think I'll stick

>with Iodoral for now.

>

>

>From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of

>Megaera3

>Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:18 PM

>iodine

>Subject: Um, Guys: Tri-Quench is SSKI, It is NOTan iodine + KI

>solution. My Bad.

>

>

>

>At least I did say I wasn't familiar with it, before making a right fool

>of myself. But I did go to the Scientific Botanicals website, to check out

>what BaxRox said about their bottle, and based on what they say you can

>safely ignore most, if not all, of what I previously wrote. Here's the

>correct product info.

>

>It's a potassium iodide solution whose concentration is 1 g (note, not mg)

>per ml -- this qualifies it as " supersaturated " , hence the term SSKI. It's

>sold in a 30 ml bottle whose dropper, per the manufacturer, does generate

>1200 drops per bottle (that's 40 per ml, and yes, that is a small drop for

>a bottle) and the product statement is that each drop yields 25 mg KI

>(comprising 19 mg Iodide and 6 mg potassium). KI itself is clear, not

>brown (it's the iodine in Lugol's that tints i

>

>

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[Guest guest]

, a mixed response ...

I use Lugol's 5% & /or Iodoral as a base component of the Iodine Protocol at

whatever amount I am taking at the time, no less than Dr. Brownstein's

recommendation which is 50 mg/day.

In addition to the Lugol's & /or Iodoral I have experimented with adding SSKI in

the form of Tri-Quench. Initially began doing that to assist with thyroid

protection after the earthquake in Japan caused the nuclear reactors to release

radioactive iodine. (thyroid prefers potassium iodide which is also found in

Lugol's & Iodoral but I opted to utilize a combo. In Dr. Brownstein's blog he

did not recommend anything more than Iodoral or Lugol's was needed, this was a

personal choice)

SSKI (for me in the form of Tri-Quench) has other beneficial uses which are

spoken about in Dr. 's article about SSKI and I believe there are

times when it is more convenient to use in certain applications than Lugol's

might be. (again, the Lugol's & /or Iodoral are the components I use for the

Iodine Protocol ... I am speaking here of additional uses)

I am not sure of this but I have pondered that SSKI might be more " durable " than

Lugol's to take along when traveling as iodine evaporates quite readily and is

sensitive to sunlight. In a recent post (msg #78697) I shared the process that

author and chemist Bruce uses to isolate elemental iodine from

potassium iodide ... and took note that step #7 of the process says : " Iodine

gradually sublimates (passes directly from solid to gaseous form) at room

temperature, so don't leave the crystals exposed to air any longer than

necessary to dry them " . (So when I say 'take along when traveling' I would

mean that Iodoral ( & maybe even Lugol's depending on the type & location of

trip) would be taken to provide the component of the Iodine Protocol but perhaps

would also take along SSKI (as Tri-Quench) to have a liquid form on hand ...

possibly to use topically if needed or to disinfect water if needed ~ any kind

of scenario is possible. SSKI does not stain as readily as Lugol's so there are

times when that is in it's favor when the purpose for the application is as a

disinfectant)

This sensitivity of iodine to light and air is mentioned in other places and at

times I wonder if those who are using Lugol's or making their own are at risk

for not having the amount of elemental iodine they think they have due to

evaporation of either the crystals or the final liquid product. Especially

since potassium iodide, the other component of Lugol's, can supply many

beneficial uses to the body and theoretically can provide elemental iodine via

conversion in the body (but not something to be counted on I don't believe).

Whenever I read that someone is adding Lugol's to a large container of water or

any other liquid, and drinking over a long period of time, I wonder how much

elemental iodine is available to them or how much has evaporated and what they

are really getting is mostly potassium iodide.

For anyone reading this that is new to the list the takeaway message would be:

-Iodoral or Lugol's are the recommended products for the Iodine Protocol that is

discussed on this forum.

-If using Lugol's be aware that their may be benefits in handling it properly

and consuming it quickly.

-SSKI is not without merit, but it is not the type of iodine that is recommended

for the Iodine Protocol. For the best explanations as to why ~ read Dr.

Brownstein's book on Iodine.

>

> Ok, so finally found someone who uses Tri-Quench. How do you use it, Baxrox?

>

>

>

>

>

> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of

> baxrox

> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:23 PM

> iodine

> Subject: Re: Um, Guys: Tri-Quench is SSKI, It is NOTan iodine + KI

> solution. My Bad.

>

>

>

>

>

> Just because you have an appreciation for the details and for those out

> there who may wonder about their product ~ Tri-Quench is not colorless ~

> though I suspect it is the saffron extract that tints the product. Other

> SSKI products may very well be colorless.

>

> And I suppose I should have clarified in my recent post where I said that I

> use & /or have on hand both Lugol's & Iodoral and also SSKI... the SSKI that

> I have is the Tri-Quench product.

>