Guest guest Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Oh yes, and you should read 'Why do I still have Symptoms when my Lab Tests are Normal' by Dr Datis Kharrazian - you will find it all in there. It is VERY cheap on Amazon http://www.tpa-uk.org.uk/books.php .. Buying it through the link here will give TPA Charity 5% of the cost. Luv - Sheila Hi all, I wondered if anyone else has experience of the above three being linked. I found a site yesterday where a gentleman said he had aches and pains in his fingers elbows ankles hips for years and when he finally realised after years of testing he was having issues with gluten he gave up and the pains disappeared. He had also had elevated Uric Acid over the years as it seems I now have! I am going to give up Gluten and see what happens...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 thanks Sheila again.....I have just ordered it using the link, I will look forward to reading it...x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Hi Emma Gluten causes inflammation i.e. uric acid build up, worse case scenario arthritis etc and a lot of 'dis-eases' we blame on getting older are often as a result of gluten intake as it wreaks havoc on our bodies. Most people are better off without it in their diet. It's so much easier to go gluten free these days. When I first started in the early 1980's I had to buy my flour from the health food store and the gluten free bread was crumbly like stale cake, but now you can get everything you would want from the supermarket AND the nice soft bread and rolls which have appeared in the last two years. Keep a mood and food diary and see how soon you improve, usually after about 2/3 days should see you feeling so much better ! Jackie xOn Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:24 AM, nijsemma <nijsemma@...> wrote: Hi all, I am going to give up Gluten and see what happens...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Thank you Jackie, that makes sense. Food Diary started xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Hi Jackie, I too am trying very hard to eliminate gluten. I fail miserably sometimes but I know that it is not good for us. It is bread that is my downfall as I can make treats with the Doves flour. My eyes lit up when you mentioned soft bread which is not cake like and wonder just where you are getting this bread from. I have tried the DS ciabatta rolls and they were OK but the Genius bread......not to our liking but only tried the white. I struggle with breakfasts. I am not a breakfast person but know I have to have something. I am just eating cornflakes at the moment but as they contain barley they will not be GF will they? I am hoping to have a gluten sensitivity test in Sept. when my doctor returns from sick leave so don't want to cut gluten out completely - yet. Thanks in advance for the information. Margaret > > Hi Emma > > Gluten causes inflammation i.e. uric acid build up, worse case scenario > arthritis etc and a lot of 'dis-eases' we blame on getting older are often > as a result of gluten intake as it wreaks havoc on our bodies. Most people > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Hi MargaretYes, you're right about barley being in corn flakes - not good. How about every other morning cooking some lean bacon, the other mornings scrambling some eggs on gluten free toast? Though if you're not really a breakfast person, you may just want to have some fruit or just toast? My favourite bread at present is Warburtons, it comes in both white and brown. I try not to eat too much of it but it's lovely to know you can have a sandwich or something on toast when you want something quick and light. Tesco do their own gluten free bread which if you get it fresh with a good date, is lovely as well. I've watched all the supermarkets catch on over time, that they can make money at branding their own gluten free products as there is such a high demand these days especially now that there's so much information available meaning more people choose to avoid gluten. I've researched gluten for over 25 years and recognise the symptoms of it in many of my clients. When I explain, many go gluten free and feel so much better. There are those who choose not to, that's their choice, but they continue with ill health. You can take a horse to water..... The problem is food manufacturers use gluten as a thickener and filler in so many products and ready meals, not to mention that just about everything is wrapped in either pastry or bread-crumbed. Gluten intolerance was far less of a problem when people cooked 'proper' meals before convenience meals became the norm. People are being regularly glutened three times a day, 7 days a week and wonder why they're diagnosed with IBS. I was too, but I questioned why my bowel was irritable !!! GP wanted to give me drugs, I took them, they didn't work. I went to alternative practitioners and found I was intolerant, eliminated the food (gluten, rye, barley, oats and dairy) and my symptoms disappeared. I'd recommend getting the Dummies Guide to Living Gluten Free. It says there are 100's of illnesses associated with gluten intake and lists quite a few. It's very reasonable on Amazon and if you go via the TPA link, they will also benefit :)Just remember that blood tests for food intolerance/coeliac disease are not 100% accurate and can often give false negative results. When you feel so much better excluding foods, then you have your proof. You can read further here:http://www.glutenfreesociety.org/gluten-free-society-blog/lab-testing-for-celiac-patients-inaccurate/ It's recommended that you eat gluten at least three times a week for six weeks before having the blood test though.Even though it didn't stop me developing Hypothyroid symptoms, I'm convinced being gluten free for so long, has meant I've suffered far less than many I read about here on the forum. Hope that helps. Jackie x Good luck with the diary and diet Emma ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Hi Jackie, Thank you so much for all the information. I am pleased to hear that Warbies bread is good. I shall s.d the expense and treat myself I think! One does start to crave toast with one's butter in the morning and bacon butties! Is this bread available at JS do you know? I had heard that Tesco were doing their own GF bread but when I rang to ask I was told that they were not but perhaps that has changed since. It IS good to know that we can get some decent bread anyway, albeit expensive - shan't be feeding it to the birds or ducks! I cook everything from scratch and have cut down on meat too. It is amazing how tired I feel after a sandwich and this tells me that it is not good for me. It is diet that causes ill health in many cases. My 35 year old daughter was diagnosed with RA just after having her first (and ONLY) child 4 years ago. The best benefit she had was from visiting a naturopath who told her to eliminate certain foods. She did end up in hospital as she had a very severe herxheimer reaction which worried her as her lymph nodes were up. After that weekend she was so well. However, she lost loads of weight and was under 7st and the rheumy said she had some joint damage and put her on Humira. You don't want to know the side effects of that! It is £10k per year and yet when she eats acidic foods, eg. tomatoes she gets achey. She is now eliminating dairy. We really think it is diet related but try telling that to our well-paid, know it all consultants who just laugh in your face. Too much bother for them even though there is one rheumy in Epsom who has written a book on diet and arthritis and treats her patients through diet. Some it won't work for but it is still worth a try first isn't it? Anyway, it is proof that gluten sensitivity is so widespread when more and more GF foods are coming onto the market isn't it? Thanks again for all the links and will get that book via the TPA. Kind regards, Margaret > > Hi Margaret > > Yes, you're right about barley being in corn flakes - not good. How about > every other morning cooking some lean bacon, the other mornings scrambling > some eggs on gluten free toast? Though if you're not really a > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Hi Margaret, Doves Farm and Whole earth both make gluten free cornflakes. You will find them in most large supermarkets, usually in the " Free From " section though Sainsburys sell the Whole Earth ones in with the normal cornflakes in my local. You can also buy Lima Gluten Free cornflakes from health food shops, I buy these as they dont contain added sugar (unlike the above brands). You are 100% correct to keep eating gluten before your blood test though. Is there anyway you can see another doctor so you don't have to wait until September to have the blood test? Good luck, x > I am just eating cornflakes at the moment but as they contain barley they will not be GF will they? I am hoping to have a gluten sensitivity test in Sept. when my doctor returns from sick leave so don't want to cut gluten out completely - yet. > > Thanks in advance for the information. > > Margaret > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Hi Margaret You can check out where you can get Warburton's gf bread from via their gluten free website here: http://www.glutenandwheatfree.co.uk/ In my local ons store they put it amongst the ordinary Warburton's bread so no need to look for it in the gluten free aisle. It's also on offer at present for £2 instead of the usual £2.39, so stock up and freeze it. I do. Totally understand about medication side effects and about food affecting our health. As well as being gluten free, we are dairy free too, but that's another story Your feeling tired after a sandwich is a give-away I think I heard that Doctors get about an hour's training in nutrition, although I'm sure someone will correct me, but my dealings with GP's has proven that they know very little indeed and often give out dangerous information. If your daughter gets achey after eating tomatoes and acidic foods, then these are best avoided. Take care - gotta dash. Jackie x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Hi, I've been gluten free since before last Christmas.... I use the Warburtons bread which they sell in the bread section at Asda. I don't use it very often so I freeze it in packs of 2 slices. It's great toasted but awful on it's own... kind of dry.. The only thing I miss about eating g/f is Alpen muselie.. I bought some GF stuff, but it's impossible to eat I have eaten Gluten a couple of times and can tell within an hour... my stomach gets huge and I feel really uncomfortable and ill. x > > > > > Hi Margaret, > > Doves Farm and Whole earth both make gluten free cornflakes. > You will find them in most large supermarkets, usually in the " Free From " section though Sainsburys sell the Whole Earth ones in with the normal cornflakes in my local. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Hi Emma, I wonder if you let me have the link you mentioned here? It is just that my daughter has RA and we believe the cause is diet, especially acidic foods. She has a flare when she eats tomatoes for example and is now eliminating dairy. Thank you, Margaret > > Hi all, > > I wondered if anyone else has experience of the above three being linked. > > I found a site yesterday where a gentleman said he had aches and pains in his fingers elbows ankles hips for years and when he finally realised after years of testing he was having issues with gluten he gave up and the pains disappeared. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Hi there, if you have a bread maker, Sainsburys do gluten free 'flour' suitable for use in machines....and it works really well. They also do gluten free bread mix for breadmakers or making by hand. This is nice for eating on its own. Since giving up gluten I feel so, so much better and have a much better uptake of my meds. Yesterday I had a piece of my kids regular bread and had a really nasty stomach ache within half an hour and then got a headache. Gluten's just not worth it anymore....wish I'd done it years ago. julia >....I've been gluten free since before last Christmas.... I use the Warburtons bread which they sell in the bread section at Asda. I don't use it very often so I freeze it in packs of 2 slices. It's great toasted but awful on it's own... > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (11) Recent Activity: New Members 23 New Files 2 Visit Your Group TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication. MARKETPLACE A bad score is 598. A bad idea is not checking yours, at freecreditscore.com. Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Hi Jackie, Thanks for that. My local supermarkets are supposed to stock it but I haven't seen it. Will have to ask for it next time if it is not there. It is a pity that doctors don't (or aren't allowed) to trial food elimination before dishing out the drugs eh? We could save the NHS millions if not billions couldn't we? Thanks again. Margaret PS I have lost 2lbs this week anyway > > Hi Margaret > > You can check out where you can get Warburton's gf bread from via their > gluten free website here: > > http://www.glutenandwheatfree.co.uk/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 Hi Emma, This is a tenuous connection to your issue. But if you have digestive symptoms and you have a thyroid problem then you might want to spend 15 minutes reading my HIstamine Paper which can be found at the following link within the TPA files section: thyroid treatment/files/PAUL'S PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.T3 / It is so hard to jump from symptoms to possible causes. The best thing to do is to find out all the possible causes and then investigate each one via treatment or elimination or laboratory test. I'm adding more possibilities here but I don't see this as a bad thing. Good luck! > > Hi all, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 I am so sorry it was on one of my many trawls of the net but I can't find it now. I was searching for links between uric acid and gluten intolerance if that helps Emma x - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2011 Report Share Posted August 18, 2011 thank you paul but i can't seem to open the link - if it is to do with allergies i can tell you that often if i have to run to the loo i also get an unexplained wheeziness? thanks again x - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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