Guest guest Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 It actually isn't as odd as you think. There are some who have the same issues. It is not very common but there are two factors that are probably at play. You are probably very toxic in bromide. Overloading your system with a release of toxins that it cannot eliminate will give you the symptoms that you describe. For some it can be microgram amounts. Second, as your other doctor has described adrenal fatigue can also be the cause of many of your issues. So it is important to work on healing them as well. Vit C, Magnesium and Unrefined salt all help. Things like Ashwaganda, Licorice root or even an adrenal glandular will help you. I took Cytozyme AD from Biotics Research. Blood work isn't the best way to determine adrenal status. Most holistic doctors recommend a 4x saliva cortisol test. You can obtain one from ZRT labs for around $100 (no doctor needed) through www.canaryclub.org Have you ever considered doing a liver cleanse. I did the Metagenics 28 day Ultra Clear detox with my chiropractor and it really helped me. My husband just did it with my guidance and he feels a lot better too. He lost over 20 lbs. It sounds like you have a few things to look into and address before really working on iodine. Have you had your thyroid levels checked (TSH, Free T3 and Free T4)? If your thyroid is low it will continue to tax your adrenals and you will not be able to heal them. Buist, ND cannot tolerate iodine so i finally figured out what keeps exacerbating my symptoms. it's iodine. every time i try to take it, even in the smallest dosages, i get brain fog, terrible facial pain, fatigue, arthritic complaints, my temperature always falls, and my hair falls out. it's like it makes me way more hypothyroid. i would have thought that it would do the opposite and help my thyroid. my chiropractor thinks it's because my adrenals are shot that i cannot tolerate it. i just can't understand why so many people are able to take it and do so well. and i'm talking about dosages as low as 250-500 mcg per day. micrograms! i just can't imagine that i am detoxing at these minimal dosages. i take 1/2 tsp of celtic sea salt 2 times a day, vitamin C, and magnesium. i know that we need it and i wish i could take it like others. i worked my way up to one tablet of iodoral in january and then crashed and burned. well, maybe i'll know more when my adrenal test and blood work comes in on july 7th. i'm scared to death to even consider an iodine loading test. baffled. p.s. i'm not allergic to iodine but there is one mitigating factor that i have always wondered if it had anything to do with this horrid reaction i now get to iodine. a few years ago a physician gave me iodiquinol (yodoxin) to treat an intestinal parasite, blastocyctis hominis. i took three 650 mg. pills a day for twenty days and each pill was 62% iodine. that means i was effectively getting over a gram of iodine a day for twenty days. it made me terrible ill, fatigued, and sensitive to heat. still wonder to this day what that might have done to me. i wish i could ask david brownstein this question. barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 It sounds like you have a good doc. It sounds like he or she is doing the right testing. Are you doing the saliva adrenal test? I wouldn't do a loading test right now either if you get so sick from the iodine. The one thing you don't mention that I have heard others speak of when iodine is a real problem is doing a liver cleanse. One of the things people use is milk thistle to help clean up the liver and there is a coffee enema. I know I probably need to take that next step with the liver cleanse - I do the milk thistle but haven't gone further yet. If the liver is really blocked then it seems to cause a lot of back up of the detoxing stuff and make one very sick. With all you have going on I would of course check with my doctor first, but it seems there are always things we can do to make this work better and without all the detox effects that can be so difficult. I know for me there are ways that I am already so much better that I know I am on the right track, my skin has almost totally cleared up from the constant itching and sores and I have been losing weight - it's really starting to come off with an increase in my NTH. I've got new hair growth (on my head where I want it) and I have more energy than I have had in a long time - except when the detox gets to me - then I have to drink some salt water and take a short rest. I only wish that the thing that helped detox was chocolate but hey, one can't have everything! Higgins http://becomingaspecialneedsadvocate.blogspot.com/ cannot tolerate iodine so i finally figured out what keeps exacerbating my symptoms. it's iodine. every time i try to take it, even in the smallest dosages, i get brain fog, terrible facial pain, fatigue, arthritic complaints, my temperature always falls, and my hair falls out. it's like it makes me way more hypothyroid. i would have thought that it would do the opposite and help my thyroid. my chiropractor thinks it's because my adrenals are shot that i cannot tolerate it. i just can't understand why so many people are able to take it and do so well. and i'm talking about dosages as low as 250-500 mcg per day. micrograms! i just can't imagine that i am detoxing at these minimal dosages. i take 1/2 tsp of celtic sea salt 2 times a day, vitamin C, and magnesium. i know that we need it and i wish i could take it like others. i worked my way up to one tablet of iodoral in january and then crashed and burned. well, maybe i'll know more when my adrenal test and blood work comes in on july 7th. i'm scared to death to even consider an iodine loading test. baffled. p.s. i'm not allergic to iodine but there is one mitigating factor that i have always wondered if it had anything to do with this horrid reaction i now get to iodine. a few years ago a physician gave me iodiquinol (yodoxin) to treat an intestinal parasite, blastocyctis hominis. i took three 650 mg. pills a day for twenty days and each pill was 62% iodine. that means i was effectively getting over a gram of iodine a day for twenty days. it made me terrible ill, fatigued, and sensitive to heat. still wonder to this day what that might have done to me. i wish i could ask david brownstein this question. barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 I had to pay significantly more than $100 for the adrenal testing. I originally paid $119 and they said I didn't order the right thing, they said I ordered only one cortisol test - I thought I had ordered the four times a day test, so I had to pay an additional $105 for the rest of my cortisol to be tested through ZRT. I just caution others to be very sure what you order. Higgins http://becomingaspecialneedsadvocate.blogspot.com/ Re: cannot tolerate iodine It actually isn't as odd as you think. There are some who have the same issues. It is not very common but there are two factors that are probably at play. You are probably very toxic in bromide. Overloading your system with a release of toxins that it cannot eliminate will give you the symptoms that you describe. For some it can be microgram amounts. Second, as your other doctor has described adrenal fatigue can also be the cause of many of your issues. So it is important to work on healing them as well. Vit C, Magnesium and Unrefined salt all help. Things like Ashwaganda, Licorice root or even an adrenal glandular will help you. I took Cytozyme AD from Biotics Research. Blood work isn't the best way to determine adrenal status. Most holistic doctors recommend a 4x saliva cortisol test. You can obtain one from ZRT labs for around $100 (no doctor needed) through www.canaryclub.org Have you ever considered doing a liver cleanse. I did the Metagenics 28 day Ultra Clear detox with my chiropractor and it really helped me. My husband just did it with my guidance and he feels a lot better too. He lost over 20 lbs. It sounds like you have a few things to look into and address before really working on iodine. Have you had your thyroid levels checked (TSH, Free T3 and Free T4)? If your thyroid is low it will continue to tax your adrenals and you will not be able to heal them. Buist, ND cannot tolerate iodine so i finally figured out what keeps exacerbating my symptoms. it's iodine. every time i try to take it, even in the smallest dosages, i get brain fog, terrible facial pain, fatigue, arthritic complaints, my temperature always falls, and my hair falls out. it's like it makes me way more hypothyroid. i would have thought that it would do the opposite and help my thyroid. my chiropractor thinks it's because my adrenals are shot that i cannot tolerate it. i just can't understand why so many people are able to take it and do so well. and i'm talking about dosages as low as 250-500 mcg per day. micrograms! i just can't imagine that i am detoxing at these minimal dosages. i take 1/2 tsp of celtic sea salt 2 times a day, vitamin C, and magnesium. i know that we need it and i wish i could take it like others. i worked my way up to one tablet of iodoral in january and then crashed and burned. well, maybe i'll know more when my adrenal test and blood work comes in on july 7th. i'm scared to death to even consider an iodine loading test. baffled. p.s. i'm not allergic to iodine but there is one mitigating factor that i have always wondered if it had anything to do with this horrid reaction i now get to iodine. a few years ago a physician gave me iodiquinol (yodoxin) to treat an intestinal parasite, blastocyctis hominis. i took three 650 mg. pills a day for twenty days and each pill was 62% iodine. that means i was effectively getting over a gram of iodine a day for twenty days. it made me terrible ill, fatigued, and sensitive to heat. still wonder to this day what that might have done to me. i wish i could ask david brownstein this question. barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 thanks for responding and the advice, stephanie. i did do the 24 hour saliva test. i see my doctor on july 7th to get these and all of my blood work results. (thyroid included). i would like to do the iodine loading test, but i am no shape to do it yet. once my results are in, i hope to begin the journey of healing my adrenals and trying to tolerate dessicated thyroid. (i couldn't do it before because i did not know about the adrenal and ferritin issues). stephanie, do you think that iodiquinol could have harmed me in some way? barry > > It actually isn't as odd as you think. There are some who have the same issues. It is not very common but there are two factors that are probably at play. You are probably very toxic in bromide. Overloading your system with a release of toxins that it cannot eliminate will give you the symptoms that you describe. For some it can be microgram amounts. > > Second, as your other doctor has described adrenal fatigue can also be the cause of many of your issues. So it is important to work on healing them as well. Vit C, Magnesium and Unrefined salt all help. Things like Ashwaganda, Licorice root or even an adrenal glandular will help you. I took Cytozyme AD from Biotics Research. Blood work isn't the best way to determine adrenal status. Most holistic doctors recommend a 4x saliva cortisol test. You can obtain one from ZRT labs for around $100 (no doctor needed) through www.canaryclub.org > > Have you ever considered doing a liver cleanse. I did the Metagenics 28 day Ultra Clear detox with my chiropractor and it really helped me. My husband just did it with my guidance and he feels a lot better too. He lost over 20 lbs. > > It sounds like you have a few things to look into and address before really working on iodine. Have you had your thyroid levels checked (TSH, Free T3 and Free T4)? If your thyroid is low it will continue to tax your adrenals and you will not be able to heal them. > > Buist, ND > > > cannot tolerate iodine > > > > so i finally figured out what keeps exacerbating my symptoms. it's iodine. every time i try to take it, even in the smallest dosages, i get brain fog, terrible facial pain, fatigue, arthritic complaints, my temperature always falls, and my hair falls out. it's like it makes me way more hypothyroid. i would have thought that it would do the opposite and help my thyroid. my chiropractor thinks it's because my adrenals are shot that i cannot tolerate it. i just can't understand why so many people are able to take it and do so well. and i'm talking about dosages as low as 250-500 mcg per day. micrograms! i just can't imagine that i am detoxing at these minimal dosages. i take 1/2 tsp of celtic sea salt 2 times a day, vitamin C, and magnesium. i know that we need it and i wish i could take it like others. i worked my way up to one tablet of iodoral in january and then crashed and burned. well, maybe i'll know more when my adrenal test and blood work comes in on july 7th. i'm scared to death to even consider an iodine loading test. baffled. > > p.s. i'm not allergic to iodine but there is one mitigating factor that i have always wondered if it had anything to do with this horrid reaction i now get to iodine. a few years ago a physician gave me iodiquinol (yodoxin) to treat an intestinal parasite, blastocyctis hominis. i took three 650 mg. pills a day for twenty days and each pill was 62% iodine. that means i was effectively getting over a gram of iodine a day for twenty days. it made me terrible ill, fatigued, and sensitive to heat. still wonder to this day what that might have done to me. i wish i could ask david brownstein this question. > barry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 I know that fluroquinolones are bad drugs and do damage to many people. I don't know much about the iodiquinol. I just looked at it briefly. The drug reference page I looked at says that it is 64% organically bound iodine. Not sure what that means in the grand scheme of things. I didn't look much at the other ingredients other than seeing it had magnesium separate which is a problem for some. My guess would be that you are very toxic. Did you ever drink Mt Dew or a lot of processed baked goods? There are other ways to be exposed to bromide. But for men it seems to be Mt Dew is the drink of choice. If your liver is just naturally sluggish you would be a person to store everything you are exposed to. This is the issue with many autistic children. But I digress. I am looking into that drug further. I will let you know if I learn something. Buist, ND cannot tolerate iodine> > > > so i finally figured out what keeps exacerbating my symptoms. it's iodine. every time i try to take it, even in the smallest dosages, i get brain fog, terrible facial pain, fatigue, arthritic complaints, my temperature always falls, and my hair falls out. it's like it makes me way more hypothyroid. i would have thought that it would do the opposite and help my thyroid. my chiropractor thinks it's because my adrenals are shot that i cannot tolerate it. i just can't understand why so many people are able to take it and do so well. and i'm talking about dosages as low as 250-500 mcg per day. micrograms! i just can't imagine that i am detoxing at these minimal dosages. i take 1/2 tsp of celtic sea salt 2 times a day, vitamin C, and magnesium. i know that we need it and i wish i could take it like others. i worked my way up to one tablet of iodoral in january and then crashed and burned. well, maybe i'll know more when my adrenal test and blood work comes in on july 7th. i'm scared to death to even consider an iodine loading test. baffled. > > p.s. i'm not allergic to iodine but there is one mitigating factor that i have always wondered if it had anything to do with this horrid reaction i now get to iodine. a few years ago a physician gave me iodiquinol (yodoxin) to treat an intestinal parasite, blastocyctis hominis. i took three 650 mg. pills a day for twenty days and each pill was 62% iodine. that means i was effectively getting over a gram of iodine a day for twenty days. it made me terrible ill, fatigued, and sensitive to heat. still wonder to this day what that might have done to me. i wish i could ask david brownstein this question. > barry> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 thanks so much. BTW, with my sensitivity to iodine and the difficulty that i am having even tolerating the smallest amounts of it, what do you think the iodine loading test would do to me? i remember last year trying to take lugols and a few drops would put me in bed for the whole day with a right frontal sinus headache that was crippling. every time i tried it, the result was the same. > > > > It actually isn't as odd as you think. There are some who have the same issues. It is not very common but there are two factors that are probably at play. You are probably very toxic in bromide. Overloading your system with a release of toxins that it cannot eliminate will give you the symptoms that you describe. For some it can be microgram amounts. > > > > Second, as your other doctor has described adrenal fatigue can also be the cause of many of your issues. So it is important to work on healing them as well. Vit C, Magnesium and Unrefined salt all help. Things like Ashwaganda, Licorice root or even an adrenal glandular will help you. I took Cytozyme AD from Biotics Research. Blood work isn't the best way to determine adrenal status. Most holistic doctors recommend a 4x saliva cortisol test. You can obtain one from ZRT labs for around $100 (no doctor needed) through www.canaryclub.org > > > > Have you ever considered doing a liver cleanse. I did the Metagenics 28 day Ultra Clear detox with my chiropractor and it really helped me. My husband just did it with my guidance and he feels a lot better too. He lost over 20 lbs. > > > > It sounds like you have a few things to look into and address before really working on iodine. Have you had your thyroid levels checked (TSH, Free T3 and Free T4)? If your thyroid is low it will continue to tax your adrenals and you will not be able to heal them. > > > > Buist, ND > > > > > > cannot tolerate iodine > > > > > > > > so i finally figured out what keeps exacerbating my symptoms. it's iodine. every time i try to take it, even in the smallest dosages, i get brain fog, terrible facial pain, fatigue, arthritic complaints, my temperature always falls, and my hair falls out. it's like it makes me way more hypothyroid. i would have thought that it would do the opposite and help my thyroid. my chiropractor thinks it's because my adrenals are shot that i cannot tolerate it. i just can't understand why so many people are able to take it and do so well. and i'm talking about dosages as low as 250-500 mcg per day. micrograms! i just can't imagine that i am detoxing at these minimal dosages. i take 1/2 tsp of celtic sea salt 2 times a day, vitamin C, and magnesium. i know that we need it and i wish i could take it like others. i worked my way up to one tablet of iodoral in january and then crashed and burned. well, maybe i'll know more when my adrenal test and blood work comes in on july 7th. i'm scared to death to even consider an iodine loading test. baffled. > > > > p.s. i'm not allergic to iodine but there is one mitigating factor that i have always wondered if it had anything to do with this horrid reaction i now get to iodine. a few years ago a physician gave me iodiquinol (yodoxin) to treat an intestinal parasite, blastocyctis hominis. i took three 650 mg. pills a day for twenty days and each pill was 62% iodine. that means i was effectively getting over a gram of iodine a day for twenty days. it made me terrible ill, fatigued, and sensitive to heat. still wonder to this day what that might have done to me. i wish i could ask david brownstein this question. > > barry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 I would hold off on doing the loading test for now. Work on supporting the other body systems. I did not do my first loading test for over a year past starting on Iodoral. It's a nice to have but not a necessary to take Iodine item. Buist, ND cannot tolerate iodine> > > > > > > > so i finally figured out what keeps exacerbating my symptoms. it's iodine. every time i try to take it, even in the smallest dosages, i get brain fog, terrible facial pain, fatigue, arthritic complaints, my temperature always falls, and my hair falls out. it's like it makes me way more hypothyroid. i would have thought that it would do the opposite and help my thyroid. my chiropractor thinks it's because my adrenals are shot that i cannot tolerate it. i just can't understand why so many people are able to take it and do so well. and i'm talking about dosages as low as 250-500 mcg per day. micrograms! i just can't imagine that i am detoxing at these minimal dosages. i take 1/2 tsp of celtic sea salt 2 times a day, vitamin C, and magnesium. i know that we need it and i wish i could take it like others. i worked my way up to one tablet of iodoral in january and then crashed and burned. well, maybe i'll know more when my adrenal test and blood work comes in on july 7th. i'm scared to death to even consider an iodine loading test. baffled. > > > > p.s. i'm not allergic to iodine but there is one mitigating factor that i have always wondered if it had anything to do with this horrid reaction i now get to iodine. a few years ago a physician gave me iodiquinol (yodoxin) to treat an intestinal parasite, blastocyctis hominis. i took three 650 mg. pills a day for twenty days and each pill was 62% iodine. that means i was effectively getting over a gram of iodine a day for twenty days. it made me terrible ill, fatigued, and sensitive to heat. still wonder to this day what that might have done to me. i wish i could ask david brownstein this question. > > barry> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 I hope you don't mine me jumping in, I have been following this due to I can't seem to tolerate taking Iodoral either. I feel the same way when I take iodine. My sinus headache is unbearable. I couldn't deal with 12.5 mg amount and had to quit after a week. I tired three years ago and the same thing happened to me. I believe it's something other than detox. I've been healing my adrenals for a few years now and thought they were fine. I take bio identical hormones ( sex and thyroid ). I'd really like to take iodine I just wish I knew why I react so severely when I do.On Jun 27, 2011, at 10:36 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote: I would hold off on doing the loading test for now. Work on supporting the other body systems. I did not do my first loading test for over a year past starting on Iodoral. It's a nice to have but not a necessary to take Iodine item. Buist, ND cannot tolerate iodine> > > > > > > > so i finally figured out what keeps exacerbating my symptoms. it's iodine. every time i try to take it, even in the smallest dosages, i get brain fog, terrible facial pain, fatigue, arthritic complaints, my temperature always falls, and my hair falls out. it's like it makes me way more hypothyroid. i would have thought that it would do the opposite and help my thyroid. my chiropractor thinks it's because my adrenals are shot that i cannot tolerate it. i just can't understand why so many people are able to take it and do so well. and i'm talking about dosages as low as 250-500 mcg per day. micrograms! i just can't imagine that i am detoxing at these minimal dosages. i take 1/2 tsp of celtic sea salt 2 times a day, vitamin C, and magnesium. i know that we need it and i wish i could take it like others. i worked my way up to one tablet of iodoral in january and then crashed and burned. well, maybe i'll know more when my adrenal test and blood work comes in on july 7th. i'm scared to death to even consider an iodine loading test. baffled. > > > > p.s. i'm not allergic to iodine but there is one mitigating factor that i have always wondered if it had anything to do with this horrid reaction i now get to iodine. a few years ago a physician gave me iodiquinol (yodoxin) to treat an intestinal parasite, blastocyctis hominis. i took three 650 mg. pills a day for twenty days and each pill was 62% iodine. that means i was effectively getting over a gram of iodine a day for twenty days. it made me terrible ill, fatigued, and sensitive to heat. still wonder to this day what that might have done to me. i wish i could ask david brownstein this question. > > barry> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 I had this happen too. It was because my thyroid and adrenals were in such bad shape. I am not trying it again and up to 100 mg without problems. I still need to get my thyroid meds in line though. I have an appointment next month. Am looking forward to it. I had been able to go from 150 mg of natural dessicated thyroid to nothing, but am realizing that in the long run, I do need it. I went into hypERthyroid because of using Low Dose Naltrexone. It has helped me a LOT!!! I feel so different now. Like my immune system is working so that the things I am doing for my health are able to really work. It hasn't been easy, but it has been worth the effort. I hope someday to be able to go back to a real job. Glowing, grace~ > > so i finally figured out what keeps exacerbating my symptoms. it's iodine. every time i try to take it, even in the smallest dosages, i get brain fog, terrible facial pain, fatigue, arthritic complaints, my temperature always falls, and my hair falls out. it's like it makes me way more hypothyroid. i would have thought that it would do the opposite and help my thyroid. my chiropractor thinks it's because my adrenals are shot that i cannot tolerate it. i just can't understand why so many people are able to take it and do so well. and i'm talking about dosages as low as 250-500 mcg per day. micrograms! i just can't imagine that i am detoxing at these minimal dosages. i take 1/2 tsp of celtic sea salt 2 times a day, vitamin C, and magnesium. i know that we need it and i wish i could take it like others. i worked my way up to one tablet of iodoral in january and then crashed and burned. well, maybe i'll know more when my adrenal test and blood work comes in on july 7th. i'm scared to death to even consider an iodine loading test. baffled. > > p.s. i'm not allergic to iodine but there is one mitigating factor that i have always wondered if it had anything to do with this horrid reaction i now get to iodine. a few years ago a physician gave me iodiquinol (yodoxin) to treat an intestinal parasite, blastocyctis hominis. i took three 650 mg. pills a day for twenty days and each pill was 62% iodine. that means i was effectively getting over a gram of iodine a day for twenty days. it made me terrible ill, fatigued, and sensitive to heat. still wonder to this day what that might have done to me. i wish i could ask david brownstein this question. > barry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 I wanted to follow up on what said about the connection to adrenals/thyroid. I have been on iodine for 3 months, working my way up to 37.5 mg Iodoral with all the companions. I have noticed that I am having strange symptoms that seem to be adrenal and getting worse. I never suspected I had adrenal problems, thought I have low iron and possibly thyroid issues. I just sent in my saliva cortisol test and waiting to get the results to know for sure. Are you saying it is best to stop iodine completely until the adrenal/thyroid issues are healed? ~~ > > It actually isn't as odd as you think. There are some who have the same issues. It is not very common but there are two factors that are probably at play. You are probably very toxic in bromide. Overloading your system with a release of toxins that it cannot eliminate will give you the symptoms that you describe. For some it can be microgram amounts. > > Second, as your other doctor has described adrenal fatigue can also be the cause of many of your issues. So it is important to work on healing them as well. Vit C, Magnesium and Unrefined salt all help. Things like Ashwaganda, Licorice root or even an adrenal glandular will help you. I took Cytozyme AD from Biotics Research. Blood work isn't the best way to determine adrenal status. Most holistic doctors recommend a 4x saliva cortisol test. You can obtain one from ZRT labs for around $100 (no doctor needed) through www.canaryclub.org > > Have you ever considered doing a liver cleanse. I did the Metagenics 28 day Ultra Clear detox with my chiropractor and it really helped me. My husband just did it with my guidance and he feels a lot better too. He lost over 20 lbs. > > It sounds like you have a few things to look into and address before really working on iodine. Have you had your thyroid levels checked (TSH, Free T3 and Free T4)? If your thyroid is low it will continue to tax your adrenals and you will not be able to heal them. > > Buist, ND > > > cannot tolerate iodine > > > > so i finally figured out what keeps exacerbating my symptoms. it's iodine. every time i try to take it, even in the smallest dosages, i get brain fog, terrible facial pain, fatigue, arthritic complaints, my temperature always falls, and my hair falls out. it's like it makes me way more hypothyroid. i would have thought that it would do the opposite and help my thyroid. my chiropractor thinks it's because my adrenals are shot that i cannot tolerate it. i just can't understand why so many people are able to take it and do so well. and i'm talking about dosages as low as 250-500 mcg per day. micrograms! i just can't imagine that i am detoxing at these minimal dosages. i take 1/2 tsp of celtic sea salt 2 times a day, vitamin C, and magnesium. i know that we need it and i wish i could take it like others. i worked my way up to one tablet of iodoral in january and then crashed and burned. well, maybe i'll know more when my adrenal test and blood work comes in on july 7th. i'm scared to death to even consider an iodine loading test. baffled. > > p.s. i'm not allergic to iodine but there is one mitigating factor that i have always wondered if it had anything to do with this horrid reaction i now get to iodine. a few years ago a physician gave me iodiquinol (yodoxin) to treat an intestinal parasite, blastocyctis hominis. i took three 650 mg. pills a day for twenty days and each pill was 62% iodine. that means i was effectively getting over a gram of iodine a day for twenty days. it made me terrible ill, fatigued, and sensitive to heat. still wonder to this day what that might have done to me. i wish i could ask david brownstein this question. > barry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 stephanie, it's all beginning to make sense to me now. up until four years ago when i " woke up " with the help of a dear friend, a chiropractor, i had taken over 80 rounds of antibiotics in my lifetime fighting what i thought were sinus infections. cipro and later levaquin (both fluroquinolones) were among them, especially levaquin (many. many times). i am horrified when i look up the fluroquinolones in wikipedia. most variations are pulled off the market due to toxicity and levaquin is next to go. it's a wonder i'm still alive. so now i know. as hard as it is to bear, i know. stephaine, could you please send me more info on the metagenics liver detox? specifically which one and instructions how to do it? thank you sooo much. barry > > > > It actually isn't as odd as you think. There are some who have the same issues. It is not very common but there are two factors that are probably at play. You are probably very toxic in bromide. Overloading your system with a release of toxins that it cannot eliminate will give you the symptoms that you describe. For some it can be microgram amounts. > > > > Second, as your other doctor has described adrenal fatigue can also be the cause of many of your issues. So it is important to work on healing them as well. Vit C, Magnesium and Unrefined salt all help. Things like Ashwaganda, Licorice root or even an adrenal glandular will help you. I took Cytozyme AD from Biotics Research. Blood work isn't the best way to determine adrenal status. Most holistic doctors recommend a 4x saliva cortisol test. You can obtain one from ZRT labs for around $100 (no doctor needed) through www.canaryclub.org > > > > Have you ever considered doing a liver cleanse. I did the Metagenics 28 day Ultra Clear detox with my chiropractor and it really helped me. My husband just did it with my guidance and he feels a lot better too. He lost over 20 lbs. > > > > It sounds like you have a few things to look into and address before really working on iodine. Have you had your thyroid levels checked (TSH, Free T3 and Free T4)? If your thyroid is low it will continue to tax your adrenals and you will not be able to heal them. > > > > Buist, ND > > > > > > cannot tolerate iodine > > > > > > > > so i finally figured out what keeps exacerbating my symptoms. it's iodine. every time i try to take it, even in the smallest dosages, i get brain fog, terrible facial pain, fatigue, arthritic complaints, my temperature always falls, and my hair falls out. it's like it makes me way more hypothyroid. i would have thought that it would do the opposite and help my thyroid. my chiropractor thinks it's because my adrenals are shot that i cannot tolerate it. i just can't understand why so many people are able to take it and do so well. and i'm talking about dosages as low as 250-500 mcg per day. micrograms! i just can't imagine that i am detoxing at these minimal dosages. i take 1/2 tsp of celtic sea salt 2 times a day, vitamin C, and magnesium. i know that we need it and i wish i could take it like others. i worked my way up to one tablet of iodoral in january and then crashed and burned. well, maybe i'll know more when my adrenal test and blood work comes in on july 7th. i'm scared to death to even consider an iodine loading test. baffled. > > > > p.s. i'm not allergic to iodine but there is one mitigating factor that i have always wondered if it had anything to do with this horrid reaction i now get to iodine. a few years ago a physician gave me iodiquinol (yodoxin) to treat an intestinal parasite, blastocyctis hominis. i took three 650 mg. pills a day for twenty days and each pill was 62% iodine. that means i was effectively getting over a gram of iodine a day for twenty days. it made me terrible ill, fatigued, and sensitive to heat. still wonder to this day what that might have done to me. i wish i could ask david brownstein this question. > > barry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 - What is NTH? Thanks, Laurel > > I know for me there are ways that I am already so much better that I know I am on the right track, my skin has almost totally cleared up from the constant itching and sores and I have been losing weight - it's really starting to come off with an increase in my NTH. I've got new hair growth (on my head where I want it) and I have more energy than I have had in a long time - except when the detox gets to me - then I have to drink some salt water and take a short rest. I only wish that the thing that helped detox was chocolate but hey, one can't have everything! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 NTH- Natural thyroid hormone I use Naturethroid Higgins http://becomingaspecialneedsadvocate.blogspot.com/ Re: cannot tolerate iodine - What is NTH? Thanks, Laurel > > I know for me there are ways that I am already so much better that I know I am on the right track, my skin has almost totally cleared up from the constant itching and sores and I have been losing weight - it's really starting to come off with an increase in my NTH. I've got new hair growth (on my head where I want it) and I have more energy than I have had in a long time - except when the detox gets to me - then I have to drink some salt water and take a short rest. I only wish that the thing that helped detox was chocolate but hey, one can't have everything! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011  Did you order through Canary Club? I just did it on my self and it was about $100. Buist, ND cannot tolerate iodine so i finally figured out what keeps exacerbating my symptoms. it's iodine. every time i try to take it, even in the smallest dosages, i get brain fog, terrible facial pain, fatigue, arthritic complaints, my temperature always falls, and my hair falls out. it's like it makes me way more hypothyroid. i would have thought that it would do the opposite and help my thyroid. my chiropractor thinks it's because my adrenals are shot that i cannot tolerate it. i just can't understand why so many people are able to take it and do so well. and i'm talking about dosages as low as 250-500 mcg per day. micrograms! i just can't imagine that i am detoxing at these minimal dosages. i take 1/2 tsp of celtic sea salt 2 times a day, vitamin C, and magnesium. i know that we need it and i wish i could take it like others. i worked my way up to one tablet of iodoral in january and then crashed and burned. well, maybe i'll know more when my adrenal test and blood work comes in on july 7th. i'm scared to death to even consider an iodine loading test. baffled. p.s. i'm not allergic to iodine but there is one mitigating factor that i have always wondered if it had anything to do with this horrid reaction i now get to iodine. a few years ago a physician gave me iodiquinol (yodoxin) to treat an intestinal parasite, blastocyctis hominis. i took three 650 mg. pills a day for twenty days and each pill was 62% iodine. that means i was effectively getting over a gram of iodine a day for twenty days. it made me terrible ill, fatigued, and sensitive to heat. still wonder to this day what that might have done to me. i wish i could ask david brownstein this question. barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 No that is not what I am saying. But in his case since his reaction is so severe then you have to take things piece by piece. There is no "blanket" way of doing things and that is the problem with all this. People want a set of rules to run with and there aren't any. Since you have been taking it w/o issues then I would continue. Iodine helps to heal adrenals but if you are having other issues as you described you will struggle. You need to address them along with the iodine. Buist, ND cannot tolerate iodine> > > > so i finally figured out what keeps exacerbating my symptoms. it's iodine. every time i try to take it, even in the smallest dosages, i get brain fog, terrible facial pain, fatigue, arthritic complaints, my temperature always falls, and my hair falls out. it's like it makes me way more hypothyroid. i would have thought that it would do the opposite and help my thyroid. my chiropractor thinks it's because my adrenals are shot that i cannot tolerate it. i just can't understand why so many people are able to take it and do so well. and i'm talking about dosages as low as 250-500 mcg per day. micrograms! i just can't imagine that i am detoxing at these minimal dosages. i take 1/2 tsp of celtic sea salt 2 times a day, vitamin C, and magnesium. i know that we need it and i wish i could take it like others. i worked my way up to one tablet of iodoral in january and then crashed and burned. well, maybe i'll know more when my adrenal test and blood work comes in on july 7th. i'm scared to death to even consider an iodine loading test. baffled. > > p.s. i'm not allergic to iodine but there is one mitigating factor that i have always wondered if it had anything to do with this horrid reaction i now get to iodine. a few years ago a physician gave me iodiquinol (yodoxin) to treat an intestinal parasite, blastocyctis hominis. i took three 650 mg. pills a day for twenty days and each pill was 62% iodine. that means i was effectively getting over a gram of iodine a day for twenty days. it made me terrible ill, fatigued, and sensitive to heat. still wonder to this day what that might have done to me. i wish i could ask david brownstein this question. > barry> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 I did, I must have been in brain fog? I don't know, can you publish the name or price of the particular test so I do it right the next time? Higgins http://becomingaspecialneedsadvocate.blogspot.com/ Re: cannot tolerate iodine  Did you order through Canary Club? I just did it on my self and it was about $100. Buist, ND cannot tolerate iodine so i finally figured out what keeps exacerbating my symptoms. it's iodine. every time i try to take it, even in the smallest dosages, i get brain fog, terrible facial pain, fatigue, arthritic complaints, my temperature always falls, and my hair falls out. it's like it makes me way more hypothyroid. i would have thought that it would do the opposite and help my thyroid. my chiropractor thinks it's because my adrenals are shot that i cannot tolerate it. i just can't understand why so many people are able to take it and do so well. and i'm talking about dosages as low as 250-500 mcg per day. micrograms! i just can't imagine that i am detoxing at these minimal dosages. i take 1/2 tsp of celtic sea salt 2 times a day, vitamin C, and magnesium. i know that we need it and i wish i could take it like others. i worked my way up to one tablet of iodoral in january and then crashed and burned. well, maybe i'll know more when my adrenal test and blood work comes in on july 7th. i'm scared to death to even consider an iodine loading test. baffled. p.s. i'm not allergic to iodine but there is one mitigating factor that i have always wondered if it had anything to do with this horrid reaction i now get to iodine. a few years ago a physician gave me iodiquinol (yodoxin) to treat an intestinal parasite, blastocyctis hominis. i took three 650 mg. pills a day for twenty days and each pill was 62% iodine. that means i was effectively getting over a gram of iodine a day for twenty days. it made me terrible ill, fatigued, and sensitive to heat. still wonder to this day what that might have done to me. i wish i could ask david brownstein this question. barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011  http://www.canaryclub.org/specialized-panel-hormone-tests-pm/diurnal-cortisol-4x-zrt-stress-hormone-test-kit-c1-c2-c3-c4.html Canary Club Diurnal Cortisol 4x $109 A saliva test designed to measure the levels of the hormone cortisol, taken four times in a 24-hour period (morning, noon, evening, and nighttime). Recommended with situational stress and fatigue; an indicator of adrenal imbalance. This is what I use. Buist, ND cannot tolerate iodine so i finally figured out what keeps exacerbating my symptoms. it's iodine. every time i try to take it, even in the smallest dosages, i get brain fog, terrible facial pain, fatigue, arthritic complaints, my temperature always falls, and my hair falls out. it's like it makes me way more hypothyroid. i would have thought that it would do the opposite and help my thyroid. my chiropractor thinks it's because my adrenals are shot that i cannot tolerate it. i just can't understand why so many people are able to take it and do so well. and i'm talking about dosages as low as 250-500 mcg per day. micrograms! i just can't imagine that i am detoxing at these minimal dosages. i take 1/2 tsp of celtic sea salt 2 times a day, vitamin C, and magnesium. i know that we need it and i wish i could take it like others. i worked my way up to one tablet of iodoral in january and then crashed and burned. well, maybe i'll know more when my adrenal test and blood work comes in on july 7th. i'm scared to death to even consider an iodine loading test. baffled. p.s. i'm not allergic to iodine but there is one mitigating factor that i have always wondered if it had anything to do with this horrid reaction i now get to iodine. a few years ago a physician gave me iodiquinol (yodoxin) to treat an intestinal parasite, blastocyctis hominis. i took three 650 mg. pills a day for twenty days and each pill was 62% iodine. that means i was effectively getting over a gram of iodine a day for twenty days. it made me terrible ill, fatigued, and sensitive to heat. still wonder to this day what that might have done to me. i wish i could ask david brownstein this question. barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Thank you , I think I probably looked at the DI in diurnal and thought two when really that would be BI. Oh well, I did get a lot of other stuff that was helpful in the mix! Higgins http://becomingaspecialneedsadvocate.blogspot.com/ Re: cannot tolerate iodine  http://www.canaryclub.org/specialized-panel-hormone-tests-pm/diurnal-cortisol-4x-zrt-stress-hormone-test-kit-c1-c2-c3-c4.html Canary Club Diurnal Cortisol 4x $109 A saliva test designed to measure the levels of the hormone cortisol, taken four times in a 24-hour period (morning, noon, evening, and nighttime). Recommended with situational stress and fatigue; an indicator of adrenal imbalance. This is what I use. Buist, ND cannot tolerate iodine so i finally figured out what keeps exacerbating my symptoms. it's iodine. every time i try to take it, even in the smallest dosages, i get brain fog, terrible facial pain, fatigue, arthritic complaints, my temperature always falls, and my hair falls out. it's like it makes me way more hypothyroid. i would have thought that it would do the opposite and help my thyroid. my chiropractor thinks it's because my adrenals are shot that i cannot tolerate it. i just can't understand why so many people are able to take it and do so well. and i'm talking about dosages as low as 250-500 mcg per day. micrograms! i just can't imagine that i am detoxing at these minimal dosages. i take 1/2 tsp of celtic sea salt 2 times a day, vitamin C, and magnesium. i know that we need it and i wish i could take it like others. i worked my way up to one tablet of iodoral in january and then crashed and burned. well, maybe i'll know more when my adrenal test and blood work comes in on july 7th. i'm scared to death to even consider an iodine loading test. baffled. p.s. i'm not allergic to iodine but there is one mitigating factor that i have always wondered if it had anything to do with this horrid reaction i now get to iodine. a few years ago a physician gave me iodiquinol (yodoxin) to treat an intestinal parasite, blastocyctis hominis. i took three 650 mg. pills a day for twenty days and each pill was 62% iodine. that means i was effectively getting over a gram of iodine a day for twenty days. it made me terrible ill, fatigued, and sensitive to heat. still wonder to this day what that might have done to me. i wish i could ask david brownstein this question. barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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