Guest guest Posted August 20, 2001 Report Share Posted August 20, 2001 Jules, I have a Nellcor unit which is built like a house brick. Not sure on the price, I got this second hand and it was very reasonable. The original site was an offshore installation in a hot climate, so they can do active duty wuite well. We do now have a UK supplier on this list and I am sure he could advise on something appropriate and point you to the specifications too. Ross Editor and co-owner RemoteMedics Online ross@... www.remotemedics.co.uk > Pulse Oximeters > > > Any recommendations from the Group on pulse oximeters? > We need three for a group of N Sea platforms - helicopter portable, > idiot-proof. Prices and suppliers would be handy. We've got one > price so far - £495 for a " Nonnin " , but haven't seen the machine. > > (By the way, will the Working Time Directive really apply in 2003 or > can the Operators wriggle out? Two on/three off with no loss of > earnings sounds too good to be true.....) > > Jules Bowman > Brae A Medic/Safety. > > > Member Information: > > List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... > Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... > > Post message: egroups > Subscribe: -subscribeegroups > Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups > > Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2001 Report Share Posted August 20, 2001 Jules I have the same Nonnin pulse oximeter, I think its fit for purpose, ive dropped it a couple of times also, and it still works. Working directive for offshore............. not a chance steve ps ian sharp, whats your number out in Kas, I will give you a call _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2001 Report Share Posted August 20, 2001 Jules, I'm based on a Marine Supply Base in Kazakhstan and we have, a NONIN 8500, I haven't used it here but I ve used the same piece of kit in a variety of places including the N.Sea and it performs well. I think the rough going price at the moment is not far short 600 quid There are a large range on the market, check out a variety of suppliers as prices do vary. One final word of warning be specific when you order it, including model number supplier etc or you may find some procument person just buys you the cheapest one he can find............... Rgs Ian S. Listowner Pulse Oximeters Any recommendations from the Group on pulse oximeters? We need three for a group of N Sea platforms - helicopter portable, idiot-proof. Prices and suppliers would be handy. We've got one price so far - £495 for a " Nonnin " , but haven't seen the machine. (By the way, will the Working Time Directive really apply in 2003 or can the Operators wriggle out? Two on/three off with no loss of earnings sounds too good to be true.....) Jules Bowman Brae A Medic/Safety. Member Information: List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... Post message: egroups Subscribe: -subscribeegroups Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2001 Report Share Posted August 20, 2001 Steve, Ian Sharpe Base Paramedic International SOS OKIOC Bautino Clinic Republic of Kazakhstan Tel: +31 70 313 3655 (Clinic) Tel: +31 70 313 3690 (Accommodation - Silent hours) Fax: +31 70 313 3655 Rgs Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2001 Report Share Posted August 20, 2001 Jules, Here is a list of Nonin P/Oxs with their Model Nos & UK Prices If you want more details on each model, the manufacturers website is http://www.nonin.com/ or you can visit http://www.999supplies.com 2500 DE/072 Nonin 2500 PalmSAT Digital 0ulse Oximeter £545.00 2500C-UNIV DE/073 2500 AC Powered Docking Stand & Charger £285.00 2500CC DE/074 Cushioned Carry Case for 2500 PalmSAT £49.00 3 meter DE/087A Adult Articulatd Finger Clip £186.90 1 meter DE/087B Adult Articulatd Finger Clip £176.40 8000Q DE/087C Ear Clip Sensor 0.5m Cable £176.40 DE/087D Paed Articulated Finger Clip £176.40 8600M DE/087M Nonin 8600M Pulse Oximeter 0x with Memory £1155.00 8500 DE/088 Nonin 8500 Pulse Oximeter £390.00 8500A DE/088A Nonin 8500A Pulse Oximeter with Alarm £499.00 8500PCC DE/088B Nonin Pulse Oximeter Carry 0ase - BLUE £50.93 8500CC-B DE/088BL Nonin Pulse Oximeter Carry 0ase - BLACK £50.93 8500M DE/088M Nonin 8500M Pulse Oximeter 0ith Memory £599.00 8500MA DE/088MA Nonin 8500MA Pulse Oximeter0with Memory & Alarm £699.00 8500MB DE/088MB Nonin Wall Mounting Bracket0for Pulse Oximeter £23.70 8500P DE/088P Optional Printer for 8500 Pulse Oximeter £249.00 8500P-PAP DE/088PP Printer Paper - Pk 20 Rolls £38.58 8500RB DE/088R Nonin Rubber Protective Bumper £50.93 8500CC-Y DE/088Y Nonin Pulse Oximeter Carry Case - YELLOW £50.93 9500 DE/089 Nonin 9500 Onyx Finger Pulse Oximeter £339.25 9843 DE/500 Nonin Pulse Oximeter & CO2 Monitor £1145.00 9845 DE/501 Nonin Pulse Ox, CO2 & Apnea Alarm £1295.00 9847 DE/502 Nonin Pulse Ox, CO2 & Full Alarms £1365.00 9840CC DE/506 Nonin Multi-Compart. Red Carry Case £58.60 DE/507 Nonin Airway Adaptor Tube Box of ??? £90.60 DE/508 Nonin Airway Adaptor Tube Box of ??? £803.00 DE/509 Nonin Replacement Mainstream Co2 Sensor £288.60 8500RB DE/510 Nonin Rubber Protective Bumper £58.60 DE/511 Nonin Surface / Wall Mount Bracket £23.70 Bray Managing Director SP Services (UK) Ltd * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Don't forget to visit our website at http://www.999supplies.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Pulse Oximeters Any recommendations from the Group on pulse oximeters? We need three for a group of N Sea platforms - helicopter portable, idiot-proof. Prices and suppliers would be handy. We've got one price so far - £495 for a " Nonnin " , but haven't seen the machine. (By the way, will the Working Time Directive really apply in 2003 or can the Operators wriggle out? Two on/three off with no loss of earnings sounds too good to be true.....) Jules Bowman Brae A Medic/Safety. Member Information: List owner: Ian Sharpe Owner@... Editor: Ross Boardman Editor@... Post message: egroups Subscribe: -subscribeegroups Unsubscribe: -unsubscribeegroups Thank you for supporting Remote Medics Online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2001 Report Share Posted August 20, 2001 On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 09:19:01 -0000, you wrote: >(By the way, will the Working Time Directive really apply in 2003 or >can the Operators wriggle out? Two on/three off with no loss of >earnings sounds too good to be true.....) > Very likely that there would be an opt out. NHS nurses (for example) work shifts with less than the prescribed 12 hour rest period between. And as a hyperbaric nurse I've worked 24hours per day while in sat. Stuart ITU & Hyperbaric Nurse / Medic www.magicphoto.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 Sounds good....I never bothered to buy one but perhaps it would be a good idea.....just to cover all bases. Most of our medical advisers use them everyday in the office and the health van that runs around town always takes your reading..... :0) Cheers, JOT -> > PULSE OXIMETERS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 I could try to sound like Palin or Chapman in the Yorkshireman sketch but I'll resist the temptation. I'm obviously living in a backwater. It just seems that when so many people are questioning whether their iron is a problem or not that this could be handy (awesome for some). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2011 Report Share Posted August 16, 2011 MODERATED TO REMOVE MOST OF PRIOR POST: PLEASE USE HIGHLIGHT AND DELETE TO REMOVE MOST OF THE MESSAGE YOU'RE RESPONDING TO BEFORE YOU POST. THANK YOU MODERATOR Hi I really like the idea of checking iron that way, its really helpful to know, and I like it that you make it clear the low figure can be other things so not to take it for granted as iron problem. Like most things, its a very useful tool. Maybe Im tired and missed it, but dont recall (on initial read anyway), you clarifying sp02 is the term for oxygen, although its easy enough to figure out, and my other comment is, where you say a normal reading is in the 90`s, I wonder if it could be mistaken for a pulse reading by someone tired and weary, so maybe just pop the word oxygen or sp02 in that?. but I love it, its brilliant. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Thanks Carole - very helpful. I've re-written this now: Pulse Oximeters A portable pulse oximeter is a device that clips onto your finger and reads your heart rate as well as the percentage of oxygen in your blood. The oximeter was originally developed to detect hypoxia, which is a condition caused by insufficient oxygen. Haemoglobin in the blood bonds to oxygen and carries it to the tissues. A pulse oximeter works by emitting an infrared light that shines through your body's tissues to a photo sensor on the other side. The infrared light is able to detect the amount of haemoglobin that is saturated with (or carrying) oxygen. The pulse oximeter will display a number that indicates the percentage of haemoglobin that is saturated with oxygen. A pulse oximeter reading (denoted by SpO2) in the 96 - 99 range is typical for a healthy person. SpO2 is the shorthand that doctors use to be clear that the reading is arterial oxyhaemoglobin saturation measured non-invasively by pulse oximetry - it is a clear and unambiguous term that avoids confusing the result with some other measurement. Reading a pulse oximeter is quite simple. The pulse oximeter must be clipped onto a part of your body where light can shine through the blood flowing through your arteries. The finger is usually used to attach the oximeter. Alternatively, the toe, earlobe or bridge of your nose may also be used. Because pulse oximeters are most frequently used on the finger, these devices are also commonly called a finger pulse oximeter. Ensure the pulse oximeter is giving you an accurate reading. A good way to do this is to compare the pulse rate on the pulse oximeter to the heart rate you get by taking the pulse manually or through a blood pressure monitor. If they do not correspond, then the pulse oximeter is not being used correctly. The arm and hand muscles associated with the finger that is being used need to be completely relaxed when testing. Lying down to do the test is ideal. The person undergoing the test must be breathing room air (not any form of oxygen or breathing apparatus) and ideally at or close to sea level (as altitude may affect the readings). A normal reading of SpO2 is in the high 90s. A reading of anywhere from 96 - 99 is typical of a healthy person. A reading of 95 or less could indicate some underlying issue and should be investigated. A reading of 90 or less indicates significant hypoxia and requires immediate action. Iron deficiency will cause a lower oxygen level in the blood, which should result in a low oximeter reading (low percentage of oxygen). Increasing iron to a healthy level will normally raise the oxygen level in the blood. A low oxygen level can have other causes apart from low iron, such as poor fitness levels, carbon monoxide poisoning, asthma, allergies, smoking, respiratory infections, high altitudes have less oxygen, sickle cell anaemia, thalassemia and various heart conditions (blood not being circulated normally). The use of oximeters by thyroid patients who are concerned that they may be deficient in iron or are already using iron supplementation is a fairly recent occurrence. Thyroid patients and doctors and just beginning to understand how these cheap and helpful devices may be helpful. Consequently, the information contained here is as accurate as I could make it at the time of writing. However, as the use of these devices by thyroid patients increases then we can expect more information on their use to emerge and become available via various Internet web sites. Different models of oximeters may provide slightly different readings and care should be taken to read all the information that comes with any oximeter purchased. It's hard to be confident that an oximeter will detect the existence of low iron levels because the body makes adjustments to compensate for loss of iron. When the oxygen level falls below 90%, hospitals usually use an oxygen machine to maintain a normal oxygen level, however this level is too low for determining whether someone has an iron deficiency or not. Some thyroid patients have found that oxygen levels of 92% – 95% may be indicative of an iron deficiency and may prompt them to request a thorough panel of iron tests from their doctor. For a patient already taking iron supplementation then no matter how much iron supplementation is taken, the highest oximeter reading is 99 - 100. A measurement of 99 can mean there is a healthy 99% oxygen level and the iron supplementation being taken is adequate. However, a reading of 99 can also mean a 99% oxygen level as a result of taking too much iron. If a patient's oximeter is constantly reading at 99 for several days then it is possible that they are taking too much iron supplementation and they should consult their doctor and have laboratory testing of their iron levels performed. Because of all the above it should be clear that these devices may only provide a guide to possible iron levels. Oximeters may provide people with additional clues that suggest that their iron levels are low and with this may come the confidence to request that their doctor performs thorough testing of iron levels. For those thyroid patients already taking iron supplementation oximeters may provide additional information that may help them to see how well this is working. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Hi , I've only just caught up with this post and find it interesting. I have had this pulse oximeter thingy on my finger every time I have been in hospital. I just wondered if a pulse oximeter would still work as a guide for someone who has very low ferritin but normal levels of haemoglobin? Sorry if that's a stupid question, I am not a scientific minded person, but I've had very low ferritin for many years but often with a haemoglobin that is in the normal range (though it does of course eventually drop when iron stores are completely depleted). Many Dr's don't seem to appreciate that a very low ferritin with a normal haemoglobin (so not anemic) can still make you feel really awful. Thanks, x > >The infrared light is able to detect the amount of haemoglobin that is saturated with (or carrying) oxygen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Hi I've read through your post with interest . I'm interested in the iron connection but that was not the main reason I had very low SATs [% oxygen in the blood ] . Please could you add to your explanation another reason which I think may be more common than realised . When hypo my muscles were weak ,[i had no allergies, had never smoked and had never had breathing problems before] I could not fill my lungs because of weak intercostal muscles -hence the low oxygen . I f this continues and is due to lack of thyroid hormone it is the heart that suffers from lack of oxygen . Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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