Re: Another thyroid article in the Mail on Sunday

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This is Sheila , usig Ina's account. Please give us a link to this

article. It is so frustrating when we are left to find this for

ourselves.

Luv -Sheila

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> Article headed " I battled thyroid illness in a Baywatch bathing suit "

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> Actress Gena Lee tells how her diagnosis took ten years.

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> This is great Sheila - you seem to have started the ball rolling.

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> B

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Hi Sheila,

I didn't get this from the online MoS - I read it in my paper this morning.

B

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> This is Sheila , usig Ina's account. Please give us a link to this

> article. It is so frustrating when we are left to find this for

> ourselves.

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> Luv -Sheila

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/index.html

This is Sheila , usig Ina's account. Please give us a link to this

article. It is so frustrating when we are left to find this for

ourselves.

Luv -Sheila

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> Article headed " I battled thyroid illness in a Baywatch bathing suit"

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> Actress Gena Lee tells how her diagnosis took ten years.

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> This is great Sheila - you seem to have started the ball rolling.

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> B

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2020557/Baywatch-actress-Gena-Lee-Noli\

n-tells-diagnosis-took-years-I-battled-thyroid-illness-Baywatch-bathing-suit.htm\

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> This is Sheila , usig Ina's account. Please give us a link to this

> article. It is so frustrating when we are left to find this for

> ourselves.

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> Luv -Sheila

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Thanks so much for the link !!

Much appreciated !!!

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2020557/Baywatch-actress-Gena-Lee-Noli\

n-tells-diagnosis-took-years-I-battled-thyroid-illness-Baywatch-bathing-suit.htm\

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> This is Sheila , usig Ina's account. Please give us a link to this

> > article. It is so frustrating when we are left to find this for

> > ourselves.

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> > Luv -Sheila

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Wow if this is what you look like when you get your thyroid levels right - please get mine right quickly (in jest !!!)

Best wishes

Mandy

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That is one of the hurdles we have to face with doctors Mandy. They think we are asking for T3 because we all want to be like that, not because we are ill.

Doctors are not stupid (well not all the time), and they know patients lay it on thick with their symptoms to get what they want.

So someone who is genuinely suffering, but their blood tests show 'normal' the doctor might well think that the symptoms relayed by the patient are all exaggerated so she can get the increased medication (or get some medication), to lose weight.

Perhaps that is why they seem to take more notice of the blood tests than what we say about our symptoms.

Well that is my theory anyway

Lilian

Wow if this is what you look like when you get your thyroid levels right - please get mine right quickly (in jest !!!)

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i disagree. i've never laid it on thick, just told it as it is.

> Doctors are not stupid (well not all the time), and they know patients lay it

on thick with their symptoms to get what they want.

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I didn't say you have and I never have either, but that does not stop doctors thinking you are, especially when blood tests come back as "normal". I have never done it because I didn't need to, my symptoms were severe, but it didn't stop my doctor thinking I could not possibly be that ill with my blood test results.

I have heard many people say "you won't get anywhere unless you lay it on thick".

Lilian

Re: Another thyroid article in the Mail on Sunday

i disagree. i've never laid it on thick, just told it as it is. > Doctors are not stupid (well not all the time), and they know patients lay it on thick with their symptoms to get what they want.------------------------------------TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.

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ah ok , i see what you mean. so they think we're laying it on - probably

explains why they are so dismissive. you shouldn't have to exaggerate the

problems to be listened to. :-(

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> I didn't say you have and I never have either, but that does not stop

doctors thinking you are, especially when blood tests come back as " normal " .

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If, like years ago we saw the same doc each time, then they would be able to tell wether we are doing this or not. Lets face it MOST of the people MOST of the time, will not be exaggerating their symptoms. So a Lawyer, should they assume everyone is telling lies too? The mechanic at the garage should he also assume you tell lies? I mean come on, if you follow up your patients well enough and listen to them properly you should be able to tell the difference. It is not their job to assume we are telling lies about our symptoms anyhow.

This happened to my daughter when she had spent 21/2 years of being seriously ill, she had been admitted to hospital every third week pretty much over that period of time, with high temperatures dehydration vomitting and kidney pain. On two occasions her tempeature was so high she had one to one nursing for 48hrs as they were worried she would convulse and go into a coma. They bathed her with cold water flannels with three fans on her to try to keep her temperature down. She had two IV drips with fluids and antibiotics.

For 21/2 years she was told this is psychosomatic. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????

Do you know people who can raise their temp to dangerous levels for no reason?????? How do they do that, please tell me, it really is quite clever.

No matter how many times I told docs, my daughter isnt like that, you met her for five minutes I can tell you I have known her for 17years, she has never pretended to be ill in the way you suggest. Indeed she had rarely been ill in those 17years, she had rarely seen a doc in those years and only previously had ONE course of antibiotics. Not a typical picture for a hypochondriac.

One one of the many admissions to hopsital, this doc visited her as she projectile vomitted and covered his shoes.

He said Oh dear you are ill after all!!!!!!!! He did the right tests and sure enough bilateral kidney disease with bilateral reflux!!!!!!!!!!

No it is a cop out because docs dont know what the answer is so lets say your telling me lies.

By the way as a result of their delay she got LUPUS and LIVER DISEASE and SCLERA MALACIA as well as hypothyroidism and low adrenal output........It makes me cross to hear anyone say that people have a psychosomatic illness or that they are lying about their symptoms.

There are people who try to get sickness benefit for a bad back to avoid work yes perhaps, but they are few and far between and certainly not my daughter, she was in the middle of A levels.

So I would have to strongly disagree, for the majority of people this is a nonsense. Sally xx

I didn't say you have and I never have either, but that does not stop doctors thinking you are, especially when blood tests come back as "normal". I have never done it because I didn't need to, my symptoms were severe, but it didn't stop my doctor thinking I could not possibly be that ill with my blood test results.

I have heard many people say "you won't get anywhere unless you lay it on thick".

Lilian

------------------------------------TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.

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In our surgery we do have to see the same doctor, the one we are registered with (unless an emergency).My best friend went to the doctor (same one as mine), she was sicking up everything, including water.   She was losing weight fast.     The doctor said to her husband " is she putting this on " .

She died of stomach cancer a few months later.     When I told my GP (when he stopped me taking T3), that I was gaining weight fast which he could obviously see but not eating any different than I was before, he actually said to me " I don't believe you " .

They were doctors who saw us regularly and they were things which it was obvious to see.So you see here was two cases even with obvious signs where the doctor thought we were putting it on.

Lilian

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This happened to my daughter when she had spent 21/2 years of being seriously ill, she had been admitted to hospital every third week pretty

much over that period of time, with high temperatures dehydration vomitting and kidney pain.Sally How awful for you both. Big hugs to you and daughter.Sue x

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I think the difference is that when you saw the doc years ago and they knew you,

your family and your circumstances - oh and they were taught to listen to the

patient.....

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What a dreadful Doctor !!!  He ought to have been reported !!!

Jackie x

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:25 PM, recent:lilian15@... <lilian15@...> wrote:

 

My

best friend went to the doctor (same one as mine), she was sicking up everything, including water.   She was losing weight fast.     The doctor said to her husband " is she putting this on " .

She died of stomach cancer a few months later.     

Lilian

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Physicians must blame someone for their inability to diagnose and treat

maladies. So if it is not medical knowledge, it is the patient.

When droves of women were dying in the early and mid 19th Century, medicine's

answer was " bad humors in the air. " Then Dr. Semmelweis found that washing up

and general cleanliness saved these women from horrid deaths due to infections

and pressed medicine to accept his cleaning up protocol, they refused. As it

turned out Semmelweis' boss has presided over the deaths of two women per day on

average for 25 years. He certainly did not want to admit that saving thousands

of lives was within his capability.

After all, just what is more important? Your well being or his ego? I truly

doubt that medical egos have yet to take a back seat to " making your patient's

well being first and foremost. "

Have a great day,

> he actually said to me " I don't believe you " .

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> Lilian

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Hi all,

I got told I was a hypochondriac by my GP - needless to say I did go back and see him several years down the line (even though he was no longer my Dr I got an appt to go back and see him) and said I want you to retract what you said to me - he went bright red and said I don't know what you mean - I reminded him of his awful comment and said Oh and by the way it was Lupus and stormed out

Best wishes

Mandy

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HI MANDY

I came across this awful remark from psychiatrists, in turn this remark is seen

by other specialists giving us a bad name causing them to do nothing for us.

It has now cropped up again having seen a psychiatrists with my CPN turning

against me too supporting this remark. I have now started a complaints

procedure, and question her fitness to practice, and ask that these remarks be

removed from my health records. However my trust will never return in the

medical profession, as on top of this the errors that are cropping up, and some

with intent, along with the risk of infection in our hospitals has also added to

this. My health would be in better shape had I not been put on drugs issued by

psychiatrists.

My Brother who has recently died took a massive overdose of his drugs that in

turn causes depression which his GP should have known. It was this GP who caused

him to take them as she said that he would have to have his legs removed. At

this timer he would not only have had an enlarged prostrate gland, but cancer of

the bladder as well. When he was able to he approached this GP as you did, and

said to her look what you made me do, and her reply was " I was only joking " .

By looking at his neck which was like my eldest sisters who died you can tell

that he had thyroid problem that exists in our family

Kathleen

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> Hi all,

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> I got told I was a hypochondriac by my GP - needless to say I did go back

> and see him several years down the line (even though he was no longer my Dr

> Mandy

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[Guest guest]

In our surgery we do have to see the same doctor, the one we are registered with (unless an emergency).

My best friend went to the doctor (same one as mine), she was sicking up everything, including water. She was losing weight fast. The doctor said to her husband "is she putting this on".

She died of stomach cancer a few months later.

When I told my GP (when he stopped me taking T3), that I was gaining weight fast which he could obviously see but not eating any different than I was before, he actually said to me "I don't believe you".

They were doctors who saw us regularly and they were things which it was obvious to see.

So you see here was two cases even with obvious signs where the doctor thought we were putting it on.

Lilian

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Thank you Sue, for your kind words. They are very much appreciated. Sally xx

This happened to my daughter when she had spent 21/2 years of being seriously ill, she had been admitted to hospital every third week pretty much over that period of time, with high temperatures dehydration vomitting and kidney pain.

How awful for you both. Big hugs to you and daughter.

Sue x

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I agree, they get away with it because we dont complain.

What a dreadful Doctor !!! He ought to have been reported !!!My best friend went to the doctor (same one as mine), she was sicking up everything, including water. She was losing weight fast. The doctor said to her husband "is she putting this on".

She died of stomach cancer a few months later.

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Can anybody find this online. What does it say ? Give us a

clue.

Luv - Sheila

Hi All,

There is another article in the MoS - page 24 in the review.

I don't have a link because I am reading it the old fashioned way.

B

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2033394/My-father-said-I-car-Id-write-\

I-ve-beautiful-baby-odds-says--Porter-beat-thyroid-illness.html#ixzz1WyPQ\

jk17

I believe this is the link Shiela, someone else started a thread on this as

well.

Cheers,

JOT