Re: advice in self treatment of adrenal fatigue and treating candida

[Guest guest]

Hi Elaine:

Are you taking a good vitamin B Complex everyday?

Biotin is a b vitamin and needs to be taken along with a good b complex. If you

are taking a good vitamin B complex, it will already have biotin in it. If this

is not enough, then add the extra biotin.

Any time you need an extra b vitamin in the system, it must be taken with a b

complex vitamin to balance all the bs.....

http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-B-Right-100-Capsules/110?at=0

Cheers,

JOT

> Hi chris thany you for your advice, i have ordered some biotin and started the

candida diet there is conflicting info on the net suggesting having strict no

sugar for 2 weeks then introducing some sugar ie as in berries. I have also

ordered dhea and biotin and will start with these once they arrive. imy problem

is that i do not want to take too much as i will not know what is effective and

if i start experiencing candida die off i may associate it with other things -

any advice regards elaine

>

[Guest guest]

You just need a cream the size of a pea. If it is Lichen

Sclerosis, the effect will be almost miraculous, so many of us have this

problem, especially if we have thyroid antibodies. Ordinary creams will not

touch it.

Luv - Sheila

thank you sheila, the gp has made a referral to dermatology as my irritation is

not clearing up i will bring this up when i get my appointment in the meantime

i do have some dermovate and have researched on the net so will apply this in

the meantime thank you

[Guest guest]

Elain, some people don't feel any effect of using DHEA for up to

3 months, so if you are one of these people, don't get despondent - it will and

does work and once it sets in, you will start to feel great. I just need to let

people know this because when they feel it is not working, they simply give up

and don't bother taking any more. Just be patient.

Luv - Sheila

>Thanks Tina, I have ordered some DHEA my cortisone levels were within range

on all tests have you had much success with the dhea suppliment. i do have

systemic thrush that i need to resolve first but will start the dhea problem is

i do not want to take too much as then i would not know what is working and

what is not. i am taking berocca vit c supplements and sodium bicarbonate at

present. i would be interested to learn how you got along - regards elaine

[Guest guest]

Follow the candida protocol we give in our Files section Elaine.

Go to http://health./group.thyroid treatment

- click on FILES in the Menu and on the list that opens, click on the folder

'CANDIDA' and read everything there.

Luv - Sheila

Hi chris thany you for your advice, i have ordered some biotin and started the

candida diet there is conflicting info on the net suggesting having strict no

sugar for 2 weeks then introducing some sugar ie as in berries. I have also

ordered dhea and biotin and will start with these once they arrive. imy problem

is that i do not want to take too much as i will not know what is effective and

if i start experiencing candida die off i may associate it with other things -

any advice regards elaine

[Guest guest]

I would run a mile from the doctor that is your GP at present -

he will only cause you more harm and if you are not treated soon, you are going

to find yourself getting symptoms you will find it very difficult to get rid of

- seriously, run a mile because you have one of the doctors who knows

absolutely nothing about thyroid disease and that is why he has feelings of

being threatened when you show any knowledge. He is supposed to WORK WITH HIS

PATIENTS and not against them. This is in the 'Duties of a Doctor Registered

with the General Medical Council. Ask to see another doctor at the surgery, but

if they all think the same, then write to your PCT and tell them you need a

doctor who will work with you and can they find you one in your area.

Also, again you are given wrong information about your GP

needing to refer you to another doctor. I will send you my list of doctors

recommended by our members, some are NHS and some are private. If you choose a

private doctor, you don't need a referral.

A TSH of 4.5 is far too high - it should be around 1.0. You need

to ask for free T4, free T3 and thyroid antibodies. You also need your GP to

test your level of ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper

and zinc. If any of these specific vitamins and minerals are low in the

reference range, no amount of thyroid hormone (not even your own) is able to be

fully utilised at the cellular level.

You might do best to write a letter to your GP setting out your

present symptoms and signs (check these against those in our web site www.tpa-uk.org.uk under 'Hypothyroidism'.

Take your basal temperature for 4 or 5 mornings before you get out of bed in a

morning and list these if they are 97.8 degrees F (36.6 degrees C or less)

List any members of your family who have a thyroid or autoimmune

disease.

Next, list the blood tests you need to be done NOW - and tell

him that because of all your symptoms and signs, you are NOT prepared to wait

for another year. Ask that when your results are returned, you are allowed

access to them together with the reference range for each test done so you can

keep a diary yourself. You really don't have to tell a doctor or anybody else

why you need to see your results, or any other information in your medical

records. This information is yours under The Data protection Act 1998.

Next, ask for a referral to an endocrinologist of your choice -

you do not wish to see a specialist in diabetes, but preferably one who has a

special interest in thyroid disease.

Last, ask for your letter of requests to be placed into your

medical notes and send a copy to the Head of Practice and keep a copy of your

letter yourself in case this is needed at a later date. Ask him to respond in

writing.

Pop that in the post and see what happens.

Good luck.

Luv - Sheila

Hi Elaine, do I take it from your response to

the above question, that my results of TSH level at 4.5 is very high. I know in

the UK treatment only begins at a level of 5, that is what I have been told by

my NHS dr who regards any of my questions with reserve and feelings of being

threatened if I show any knowledge from notes I bring to our consultation.

Unfortunately this has been going on for almost 3 years now, and recently I was

told that I could not have another test til next year, when my last test result

was last year. I live in Derby so not sure where to turn, and thinking of going

privately but have been told I need a referral from my local GP so don't know

where to turn. Any insight would be helpful.

[Guest guest]

Sorry Elaine, this question was meant for Shelia, as I am new to the forum

having joined today, I am still finding my way:

Do I take it from your response to the above question, that my

results of TSH level at 4.5 is very high. I know in the UK treatment only

begins at a level of 5, that is what I have been told by my NHS dr who regards

any of my questions with reserve and feelings of being threatened if I show any

knowledge from notes I bring to our consultation. Unfortunately this has been

going on for almost 3 years now, and recently I was told that I could not have

another test til next year, when my last test result was last year. I live in

Derby so not sure where to turn, and thinking of going privately but have been

told I need a referral from my local GP so don't know where to turn. Any

insight would be helpful.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila

I look forward to that list, I am in Derby so need to see someone in this area.

I tried a local private clinic but was told I cannot simply see a dr there

without referral. So today I found this site. I ordered armour hormone from

one of the online pharmaceuticals recommended here and thought I would try to

find my own way by treating symptoms and see where I go. I have had to do

something similar with menopausal symptoms and have been self-treating with

natural progesterone which I purchase online. So far I get positive relults but

unfortunately I have no way of monitoring levels by tests, as I can't get these

done either. I have tried to be properly assessed but this has been refused. I

get the feeling that one is supposed to just live with the symptoms.

I have had no success at my local drs, even tho one whom I see is a woman and

she has been sometimes sympathetic, I am mostly told not to worry. In South

Africa where I was born, you would hear by word of mouth of a good dr or gyne

and would pay for your consultations and any tests done, and would not use this

unless it was necessary. The NHS is great if you have a critical condition, but

if you are wanting to improve your health and prevent sickness, I get the

feeling you are searching in the dark.

[Guest guest]

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> Hi chris thany you for your advice, i have ordered some biotin and started the

candida diet there is conflicting info on the net suggesting having strict no

sugar for 2 weeks then introducing some sugar ie as in berries. I have also

ordered dhea and biotin and will start with these once they arrive. imy problem

is that i do not want to take too much as i will not know what is effective and

if i start experiencing candida die off i may associate it with other things -

any advice regards elaine

I can't advise you but I found keeping a journal of what i did and took and how

i felt was quite useful in determing what may be causing what, as it were.

probably a good idea to go slow and see how you go - no need to rush anything

Chris

[Guest guest]

what exactly is HCLA, and are you suggesting i take this as well as sodium

bicarbonate.

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> > TAKE HCL  this is to boost the stomach acid which is there to prevent

invasions of all things including yeast.  This will then stimulate other

digestive juices in the gut.

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> thank you for this information may i just clarify one point, I am taking

sodium bicarbonate and have started the candida diet i thought the sodium

bicarbonate was to give an alkaline balance and kill off the candida. it has

been suggested to take HCL to boost stomach acid. would this contra act what i

am doing. regards elaine

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[Guest guest]

Jot, thank you for this information, i am taking berocca which does contain b

vitamins. elaine

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> Hi Elaine:

>

> Are you taking a good vitamin B Complex everyday?

> Biotin is a b vitamin and needs to be taken along with a good b complex. If

you are taking a good vitamin B complex, it will already have biotin in it. If

this is not enough, then add the extra biotin.

>

> Any time you need an extra b vitamin in the system, it must be taken with a b

complex vitamin to balance all the bs.....

>

> http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-B-Right-100-Capsules/110?at=0

>

> Cheers,

> JOT

>

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> > Hi chris thany you for your advice, i have ordered some biotin and started

the candida diet there is conflicting info on the net suggesting having strict

no sugar for 2 weeks then introducing some sugar ie as in berries. I have also

ordered dhea and biotin and will start with these once they arrive. imy problem

is that i do not want to take too much as i will not know what is effective and

if i start experiencing candida die off i may associate it with other things -

any advice regards elaine

> >

>

[Guest guest]

thank you sheila, i have tried to follow the protocol in you files however i

still have signs of candida in my saliva when doing the spit/water test in a

morning. I am taking bicarbonate of soda, and had 3 weeks treatment with

fluconazole. i understand i must remain on the diet but thought i would have got

rid of the candida by now.

I still get tongue flare up when in bed and now wondering if my amalgum fillings

are the problem.

I am eager to rid this candida so that my adrenals and thyroid can improve.

thank you for your support - elaine coleman

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> Follow the candida protocol we give in our Files section Elaine. Go to

> http://health./group.thyroid treatment - click on FILES

> in the Menu and on the list that opens, click on the folder 'CANDIDA' and

> read everything there.

>

> Luv - Sheila

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[Guest guest]

Hi Elaine:

The best thing to cure you of candida is Wild oil of Oregano. Taken every day.

Here is some info on that and where you can buy it:

http://blimey.dreamwidth.org/676.html

Cheers,

JOT

> thank you sheila, i have tried to follow the protocol in you files however i

still have signs of candida in my saliva when doing the spit/water test in a

morning.

[Guest guest]

You cannot always rely on the spit test - this is only an

'indication' you might have candida because such threads floating down the

glass can be seen after eating or drinking certain things. You MUST remain on

the diet until all signs of candida have gone and sometimes, it can take quite

a while. Have you had any symptoms of 'die off' - this is where the toxins are

being released into the blood and you can, during this time, feel pretty

terrible because of the toxicity in your blood. Once these start, this is a

really good sign that the therapy is starting to work, and work well. Amalgam

fillings are another problem as these cause mercury poisoning and can stop

thyroid hormone from being properly utilised at the cellular level, and this

should be sorted too.

Read the information about all the associated conditions that go

along with being hypothyroid here http://www.tpa-uk.org.uk/associated_conditions.php

Luv - Sheila

thank you sheila, i have tried to follow the

protocol in you files however i still have signs of candida in my saliva when

doing the spit/water test in a morning. I am taking bicarbonate of soda, and

had 3 weeks treatment with fluconazole. i understand i must remain on the diet

but thought i would have got rid of the candida by now.

I still get tongue flare up when in bed and now wondering if my amalgum

fillings are the problem.

I am eager to rid this candida so that my adrenals and thyroid can improve.

thank you for your support - elaine coleman

[Guest guest]

These WOO worked great for me. 3 lots of oral and 3difflucan pessaries didn't

work for me then tried the oregano and now clear

Thanks Jot xxx

Love Debbie xx

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> Hi Elaine:

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> The best thing to cure you of candida is Wild oil of Oregano. Taken every day.

Here is some info on that and where you

[Guest guest]

Sheila i do do the spit test in the morning before eating and drinking anything,

and i still have the symptoms of leaky gut. i am sticking to the diet though

some things have carbohydrates of which has a sugar content such as oats though

i am not eating fruit yet i have very minimal sugar. i do get tongue flare up

during the night can not find anything about this so do not know if it is

associated but last week it was so bad it felt like it was swollen and throbbing

could this be another symtom of die off - i think i need to get my fillings

sorted probelm is most of my back teeth are built up with fillings as they have

broken and i would say about 70% of the tooth is filled - id do not want to risk

losing my teeth if i get the fillings changed as the dentist said the white

fillings are not as durable. elaine

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> Have you had any symptoms of 'die off' - this is where the toxins are being

> released into the blood and you can, during this time, feel pretty terrible

> because of the toxicity in your blood. Once these start, this is a really

> good sign that the therapy is starting to work, and work well. Amalgam

> fillings are another problem as these cause mercury poisoning and can stop

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[Guest guest]

The best diet I did to eliminate athletes foot and thrush and general tiredness

was a diet recommended by an uncle who is a GP with an interest in alternative

treatments.

He recommends a 12 week diet as follows:

take:

- caprlic acid every day (I checked the internet for dose and bought it from

Holland & Barrett)

- multi vitamin & minerals

- probiotic

avoid completely:

- cheese

- bread

- wheat

- sugar (no sugar replacements either)

- wine & beer (but you can drink proper champagne as the yeast is removed during

the production process)

- coloured spirits (ie you can drink vodka with soda)

Only reintroduce the elimitated foods one by one and slowly after 12 weeks.

Note their effect on you to see if you want to keep consuming them.

It worked for me and for my sister in law. In fact we both lost over a stone

over the 12 weeks, our skin looked great and yeast infections cleared up. We

dont follow it all the time but probably go back to it every 12-18 months.

It is definitely worth a try.

By the way - my mother in law (a fertility specialist) checks the TSH levels of

her patients and insists their levels remain below 2.0. My private

endocrinologist told me this was " a bit tight " but agreed to follow her advice

otherwise I would not feel as well as I do!

Good luck

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> Hi chris,

> Indeed I did say that.

>  

> STOP all sugars and High GI foods, some say stop mouldy foods too and

fermented foods such a vinegegars etc.  READ the labels on all foods if

appropriate. 

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