Re: The Things Doctors Say

[Guest guest]

How about 'You can't expect to do everything as you are getting older' (I was 38

at the time).

Or how about 'You are a liar, you do not have thyroid symptoms'.

Glynis

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> In view of various comments that are made after seeing their GP, maybe we

should have a list of all the wonderful things that doctors say to make us feel

better. I can start it off:- " Why do you think that being in your fifties and

overweight is unusual " . I was nearly dumbstruck, but not quite..........Nice.

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[Guest guest]

The endocrinologist said to me: " Maybe you are imagining everything? " .

Vivien

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> In view of various comments that are made after seeing their GP, maybe we

should have a list of all the wonderful things that doctors say to make us feel

better. I can start it off:- " Why do you think that being in your fifties and

overweight is unusual " . I was nearly dumbstruck, but not quite..........Nice.

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[Guest guest]

My point exactly Glynis, yours actually said it to your face.   Most just think it.Lilian

Or how about 'You are a liar, you do not have thyroid symptoms'.

Glynis

[Guest guest]

proves my point again.    They think we are laying it on thick.   In this case he doesn't even believe there are any symptoms at all.Lilian

The endocrinologist said to me: " Maybe you are imagining everything? " .

Vivien

[Guest guest]

Personally I think its underlying sexism, that if a man goes to see a specialist

he gets treated differently. I don't think its the specialists per se, I think

its the system.

After all you can only be hysterical if you have a womb - right?

Glynis

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> proves my point again. They think we are laying it on thick. In this

> case he doesn't even believe there are any symptoms at all.

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> Lilian

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> The endocrinologist said to me: " Maybe you are imagining everything? " .

> > Vivien

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[Guest guest]

The last time a doctor said this to me I was suffering a really serious bout of

cystitis and had a severe kidney infection - I slapped him, then explained that

the pain was all in HIS imagination!!

He gave me antibiotics and tablets to help with the burning sensation, he knew

he was in the wrong, he never reported me slapping him.

Glynis

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> The endocrinologist said to me: " Maybe you are imagining everything? " .

> Vivien

[Guest guest]

How about have you thought about going on a diet and doing some exercise - it

will make you feel better...

Seriously! It hadn't occurred to me that diets and exercise existed - what a

strange concept!I thought that by eating cake and sitting down I would lose

weight naturally...

[Guest guest]

I think you are wrong ah ah ah... read this!

http://www.emirates247.com/news/region/womb-removed-from-35-year-old-man-s-belly\

-2011-06-19-1.403484

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> Personally I think its underlying sexism, that if a man goes to see a

specialist he gets treated differently. I don't think its the specialists per

se, I think its the system.

> After all you can only be hysterical if you have a womb - right?

> Glynis

[Guest guest]

I agree with you there. I remember feeling annoyed to see a receptionist let a

man who had just popped in without an appointment jump the queue to see a

doctor, when I had had to take time off work myself to go to my appointment.

However, in mitigation, many men do tend to see the doctor only as a last

resort, whereas we have to see them on a regular basis because of having

children, etc.

Miriam

> Personally I think its underlying sexism, that if a man goes to see a

specialist he gets treated differently. I don't think its the specialists per

se, I think its the system.

> After all you can only be hysterical if you have a womb - right?

> Glynis

[Guest guest]

I've not found that to be the case.

Chris

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> Personally I think its underlying sexism, that if a man goes to see a

specialist he gets treated differently.

[Guest guest]

How about one I had yesterday:-

" ...you are not unique.... "

Well last time I checked nobody had cloned me!?!?!

Graham

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> In view of various comments that are made after seeing their GP, maybe we

should have a list of all the wonderful things that doctors say to make us feel

better. I can start it off:- " Why do you think that being in your fifties and

overweight is unusual " . I was nearly dumbstruck, but not quite..........Nice.

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[Guest guest]

Here's mine: It's not unusual for women of a certain age to need a little

nap in the afternoon. I was 53 at the time, If I'd had the energy I'd have

smacked him and I had paid £200.00 for the privilge of seeing this endo

privately....grrrrrrr

Regards

Jane

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> The last time a doctor said this to me I was suffering a really serious bout

of cystitis and had a severe kidney infection - I slapped him, then explained

that the pain was all in HIS imagination!!

> He gave me antibiotics and tablets to help with the burning sensation, he knew

he was in the wrong, he never reported me slapping him.

> Glynis

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> > The endocrinologist said to me: " Maybe you are imagining everything? " .

> > Vivien

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[Guest guest]

My endo said i can`t find anything wrong- perhaps if he looked a bit harder and did an auto-antibody test. and may be a ECG- after all you can`t actually see the little devils doing the damage if you just look at someone. also my first real attack a very sore dry throat . doctor said to me you have a lasy throat. -----no kidding well I now no different. i don`t trust any doctor to come up with any

meanful answers.Angel.

[Guest guest]

Oooh SUBLIME! Well done.

From: glynisrose06 <arianrhod@...>Subject: Re: The Things Doctors Saythyroid treatment Date: Monday, 1 August, 2011, 21:19

The last time a doctor said this to me I was suffering a really serious bout of cystitis and had a severe kidney infection - I slapped him, then explained that the pain was all in HIS imagination!!He gave me antibiotics and tablets to help with the burning sensation, he knew he was in the wrong, he never reported me slapping him.Glynis:>> The endocrinologist said to me: "Maybe you are imagining everything?".> Vivien

[Guest guest]

Over the last 25+ years in which I have been trying to get help from a variety

of GPs I have been told that I am lazy, that I am stupid, that I am self-deluded

and that I am a liar. I have also been told " There is a lot of it about... " ,

that I am " pre-menopausal " (when I was in my mid-twenties!), that it's all in my

head, what I need is anti-depressants, etc.., etc..., etc... One GP informed me

that " ...we're all different... " when I told him that my body temperature was

barely above hypothermia - My polar exploring, film-making friend was horrified

about that one!

When I was looking for help and found this forum several years ago, I trawled my

way through the entire thing and made a list of all the unadulterated bunkum

people had been told by doctors. When I went for my initial consultation I

ticked them all off as they were trotted out, smiling quietly.

As a lazy, stupid, self-deluded liar, I have done more for myself in the last

couple of years thanks to this forum than those poor brain-washed souls ever did

for me with their suggestions of low-fat calorie controlled diets and

anti-depressants, so who's being lazy, stupid, self-deluded liars now?

Ta awfully for letting me rant and the usual grovelling thanks to Sheila and all

of you on this forum for giving me my life back.

Del.

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> In view of various comments that are made after seeing their GP, maybe we

should have a list of all the wonderful things that doctors say to make us feel

better. I can start it off:- " Why do you think that being in your fifties and

overweight is unusual " . I was nearly dumbstruck, but not quite..........Nice.

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[Guest guest]

I posted this on here a long time ago, but I think it bears reposting for the

newer members.

This is a word-for-word conversation that I had with a newly-qualified locum GP

back in 2008, after my thyroid tests came back 'normal'...

GP: Are you married?

Me: No

GP: Do you have children?

Me: No

GP: Do you live on your own?

Me: Yes

GP: Then perhaps you're lonely! Would you like to try some anti-depressants?

[Guest guest]

Yes there is the mantra repeated by every doctor and nurse isn't there? " Eat

less and exercise more " Then you throw a spanner in the works by saying " But

what if that doesn't work? "

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> How about have you thought about going on a diet and doing some exercise - it

will make you feel better...

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[Guest guest]

"Ah, I wonder if you might explain why reverse T3 is so important ?"

ought to stop them in their tracks for a few seconds, enough to have a more devastating come back...

"and by the time it becomes an important contributor to my/your current ill-health, it's pointless having the test done to establish that you're within the 'normal range' for FT4, FT3 and TSH...."

hopefully, they'd be less than legless, clueless, and earning a lot more than they thought would be earning with a properly monitored, audited scheme ....

Payment by passing the patient's "response to treatment Guideline" [CME ?]

Bob

>> Yes there is the mantra repeated by every doctor and nurse isn't there? "Eat less and exercise more" Then you throw a spanner in the works by saying "But what if that doesn't work?"

[Guest guest]

Oh my goodness , that is shocking!!

I am glad that my foggy brain has made me forget most of the horrible things

doctors have said to me! x

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> I posted this on here a long time ago, but I think it bears reposting for the

newer members.

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> This is a word-for-word conversation that I had with a newly-qualified locum

GP back in 2008, after my thyroid tests came back 'normal'...

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> GP: Are you married?

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> Me: No

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> GP: Do you have children?

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> Me: No

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> GP: Do you live on your own?

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> Me: Yes

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> GP: Then perhaps you're lonely! Would you like to try some anti-depressants?

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[Guest guest]

When I was so very ill, but TSH within range (nobody doing T3 of course which turned out to be the problem) the doctor spent the whole 10 minute consultation trying to persuade me to take anti-depressants.

After the 10 minutes was up he went to the door, opened it, and told me he had wasted enough time and needed to see the next patient.Lilian 

> GP: Then perhaps you're lonely! Would you like to try some anti-depressants?

[Guest guest]

Wow, that's incredible, the list of inappropriate and ridiculous comments are

quite something. Before my youngest son was diagnosed with severe crohn's

disease a junior hospital doctor suggested he was anorexic. I told him that as

long as he had a hole in his head that was not possible and I would speak to

somebody who knew what he was talking about and not making it up as he went

along. The s--- hit the fan after that.

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> I posted this on here a long time ago, but I think it bears reposting for the

newer members.

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[Guest guest]

Hi I've had some " interesting " experiences with Doctors.I think the most useful

way of making them think before opening their mouthes is to ask for the

consultation in writing at the end . It may lead to bad relations but I have

seen a lot of my medical records and have learnt to respond in writing when not

happy . After all it is a " health SERVICE " .

[Guest guest]

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Well done Glynis, that cheered me up no end.

The worst thing my former GP said was " no-one fat ever came out of Belsen " and

then seemed unable to grasp why this was offensive on so many levels.

He thought my being overweight was most definitely of my own making, even after

an endo. had told him it was more likely due to his enthusuastic prescribing of

HRT and he had basically knackered my hormones.

Thankfully all well now , no thanks to him. Without this group I would still be

plodding along at 17 stone, instead of the svelte( well almost) 12 I am now,

thanks to Sheila and .

HelenH

[Guest guest]

" If you do not feel better on thyroxine then you unequivally do not have a

thyroid problem "

After six years of stress and misery, diagnoses of perimenopause when I wasn't,

sleep disorder, CFS, sciatica, lack of motivation, three kinds of arthritis and

God knows what else, I am now almost well on T3 only.

D

[Guest guest]

HI GLYNIS

Although this is not to do with thyroid, its the fact that you mention that you

can only be hysterical if you have a womb.

Did you see this artical where an Indian had complained about stomach pains, and

what do you think they found, although he had all the male bits and was

completley male, he also had a womb and ovaries along with female tissue, which

they had to remove.

Kathleen

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> After all you can only be hysterical if you have a womb - right?

> Glynis

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